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Silver Sharktooth
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Can you share your

experiences and comments about using filters, pros and cons each type?

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Ted
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I don’t use filters. Until last year I had only smoked a Missouri Meerschaum corn cob pipe with a filter in it, and to be fair, I didn’t realize there was a filter in it at the time until I couldn’t draw through the pipe anymore and took the stem off to figure out why. That was a long, long time ago. 

Last year I bought a Stanwell estate pipe and the seller included filters with it. I got curious and tried one out. It was interesting. I got flavors/aromas from the tobacco in a very different way than without a filter which was a little enjoyable, but I quickly found the smoke to be far less satisfying. I tried it with filters twice and decided it wasn’t for me. I was left feeling that if I used a filter with a very mild tobacco, I could probably just not bother to load and light the pipe but just draw air through it and have the same experience 🙂

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nach0
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I used to use filters at the very beginning, it smoothed the strong latakia flavor. nowadays i dont see point do use anymore. the charcoal filters are the best in this case.

something people call filters but i dont agree is the savineli wood stick used to prevent humidity. this one worth to keep in hand.

the papers filters used in corn cobs are ok, i always use when the cobs arrive but as soon they get dirty i remove and i dont use a new one. they work as well as the savineli filters, helps with humidity. 

to be honest, all filters tend to soften the flavor which is not what we are looking for in the most part of time.

so for me, no filters.

 

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I like them...9mm charcol.  I have plenty of pipes that are non filtered but I enjoy the dry and cool smoke they produce.  There are a few blends that I think lose something but not many.  I even double up and sometimes use Meer chips in the bottom of the pipe too.  It helps air circulation.  Also I tend to like the top half of a smoke best so this way there is no bottom of the bowl muddiness.  Its worth experimenting to find what you like best.  Over time it changes too.

An FYI.  I find 9mm filters are only good for 2 smokes despite marketing that says 3 or 4.  Its best to take them out of your pipe when you are done so they and your pipe can dry.

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Sir Otter
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They are okay if my tongue is bitten from the previous day, but overall I am not a fan. They take too much of the flavour out of the tobacco. I also hate how most pipes at B&Ms nowadays have the 9mm filter slot. It's a pain to clean if you aren't using the filter. 

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Zigmeister67
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My Savinelli pipes don't have filters, and I do hate drawing in tobacco pieces from them. No big deal but I still hate that. My Cobs have balsa filters but as stated before they just absorb moisture. My one pipe with a 9mm charcoal seems fine to me. Sometimes I forget to put the filter in and I don't notice any real difference.

 

 

 

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Juan José Pascual Lobo
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Most of my pipes have no filters. I have 2 Savinelli that use filters. I tried carbon filters and I don´t like the way they soften the tobacco flavor. I use the Savinelli Balsa filters that do not interfere with tobacco flavor and just absorb excessive moisture. I change them every 3 smokes, if not they transfer unpleasant smell. I have used and adapter to smoke these pipes with no filter, but the adapter burns in the first or second smoke, making it unusable again. Not to mention the horrible smell of burnt plastic.

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I use filters but not all the time. 

To be honest, I can't tell much of a difference in the tobacco flavors unless I'm using a charcoal filter. Those tone everything down.

I've found I prefer smoking Virginias with a charcoal filter as the tobacco doesn't scorch my mouth.

I've used in my non-filter pipes Nordling Keystones, White Elephant meerschaum granules, and Denicool Crystals. IMO, only the Denicool Crystals actually work to filter the smoke.

I have a few filter pipes. My favorite is a Ropp Buis large Diplomat. It takes a 9mm filter and I just love the pipe. I enjoy the softer smoke that the pipe and filter provide. For me, the Savinelli balsa filters sometimes taste like wood. I use them, but prefer a charcoal filter or no filter.

All in all, I don't mind a filter at all. Took me 50 years to try filters. Now I wish I would have used them earlier.

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Nick R
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I do not use filters. They seem like an anoyance to me. Some friends only use filters and love them. As with most things pipe related, it comes down to- Do it if you like it, dont if you dont. Both answers are correct. Smoke the way that makes you happy!

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As others have said, it’s best to experiment with different types of filter, in different pipes, with different tobacco. Bear in mind, there are other factors that come into play too, such as the condition of your tongue, what you’ve recently eaten and how you smoke the pipe in question.

I use different filters approximately two thirds of the time. White Elephant Supermix 9mm, more often than not. Though, I occasionally use others (see pic).

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Joseph
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Filters are problem solvers. I use them sometimes. Should you use them? That depends on your pipes, your technique, and your preferences.

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Too Hot - Tongue Bite
Pipes: Churchwardens, "System" pipes and calabash pipes with chambers

Technique: Light cooler (red-orange flame, never blue). Don't over-pack. If you did, loosen with a pick and lightly re-tamp to just right for pipe/blend at hand.  Draw gentler, at more leisurely pace. It's not a race, and faster means hotter.

Filters: All help - charcoal, paper, even Nording/meerschaum pebbles, and permanent metal "stingers". But, relying on these to solve this problem is actually masking bad technique.

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Too Wet - Gurgle, or Leaf and Juice drawing into mouth
Pipes: Meerschaum; Bent shapes where bowl is lower than mouth. And of course, this can't happen with chamber pipes, and less likely with longer stems.

Technique: Proper tobacco prep is key here. For moisture, rub out and let dry before packing. For solid bits, don't over-rub tobacco into powder and don't pack too loose. For problematic short stemmed straight pipes, if and when you hear gurgle, run a pipe cleaner down from bit to bowl (yes, while still smoking) to clear the juice headed for your tongue (ewww).

Filters: All solve this. It's the main reason I use 9mm charcoal filters for aromatics, many of which you cannot get dry enough NOT to be too wet. Also, for nonfilter pipes, reusable metal screens and cages are available that fit in the bottom of the bowl of any pipe, and you can put the Nording/meerschaum pebbles on top of that to solve this problem.

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Too Harsh
Pipes: Once again, all types of chamber pipes help (calabash, "system") as well as churchwardens and meerschaum.

Technique: Don't singe/char your tobacco - on the charring light, or over-drawing. Clean your pipe if it develops a bad taste.

Filters: Wrong tool to solve this problem. It does mellow and take rough edges off, but, it also gives you less of what you're smoking a pipe for in the first place - in my humble opinion.

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Follow-up notes: reading back over that, I need to clarify that the pipe types listed help solve the problem, not cause it.

Also, for what it’s worth, I consider 6mm paper filters next to useless, and find 6mm charcoal filters restrict airflow too much. So, I only use 9mm filters anymore, and only when smoking aromatics. As shown, there are pipes and techniques that solve the same problems just as well as filters for non-aromatics. Your mileage may vary.

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nach0
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Clap clap clap !!! 👏👏👏

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nach0
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Just perfetc tips mate. 👍 👍 

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pipozzo volante
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Never used filters, to make a citation of an italian famous author on pipe smoking: "Whenever I find a filter in a new pipe I take it out and throw it away with contempt".

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Rene12
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That's exactly what I do😂

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The last cob I bought came with a filter installed and I didn't know it. I'm sure the look I gave it as I yanked it out would scare children. 

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pipozzo volante
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Thus said I respect the filter choice, no judging 🌻 

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Rene12
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You are absolutely right! To each his own. One of the beautiful things about pipe smoking is the many different ways it can be enjoyed.

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Erik
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My own two bits:

I’ve had good smokes and bad smokes and great smokes. Like all of us do.

All of my great smokes, though, have been in a filtered pipe with a filter in place. To my style a filter is proving to improve mediocre tobaccos that I don’t care for when unfiltered, and they cool tobaccos that get too hot otherwise.  

Keep in mind though, that since I used filters from the beginning, I now feel that my unfiltered pipes draw far too much because that’s the result of my habits.

Not to mention, the appearance and condition of the filter when I remove it makes me feel that a filter is a really good idea… 🤢 

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Posted by: Erik

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Not to mention, the appearance and condition of the filter when I remove it makes me feel that a filter is a really good idea… 🤢 

Yup. This is a good point too.

 

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khiddy
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I do use filters in pipes that are set up for them (a few of my cobs and a handful of older mass-market estate pipes, all taking the 6mm Dr. Grabow paper filters, which I use once and toss).

I have just a few large-bowled briars that take 9mm filters, and I so I keep some filters on-hand for those, though I rarely find myself smoking those particular pipes. I tried installing an adapter into one of them and cracked the shank in the process, so I was really bummed about that. If only I had left well enough alone!

I smoked a filtered cob (MM Country Gentleman) without using the filter once, and felt that the draw was too loose, it made the pipe smoke much hotter than normal. I may get a few of those balsa wood inserts and give that a try sometime, see if that moderates the draw.

I am really indifferent to whether or not it's a filtered pipe. But when I make my pilgrimage down to Missouri Meerschaum in a few weeks, I suspect I'll gravitate toward the non-filtered lines, mainly because I'll be roadtripping and not needing filters means one less piece of kit I'll have to pack.

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VeeDubya
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I use filters most of the time because it helps me to not get tongue bite. Or if not tongue bite, at least "tongue tingle". But I think the smoke tastes nicer without the filter.

I realise the conventional wisdom is that tongue bite is caused by smoking too fast and too hot. And I do believe that is often the case. But I'm not sure it's always the case. I smoke really quite slowly and gently and I get the "tongue tingles" (without a filter) even then. I have heard that a large component of tongue bite is genetic and chemical and has to do with your mouth and saliva and a heap of other stuff, that some people can smoke goop like a steam train and not got tongue bite and others get bitten even gently sipping on Latakia. And I'm inclined to think there's at least a bit of truth in that, just from personal experience. 

Other times I think it's a bulls--t excuse for people who haven't learned to smoke their pipe properly. So maybe the truth is that I'm smoking my pipe badly and just don't even realise it. That's possible too. But when I watch other guys smoke their pipe, I always feel like I'm taking it slower and gentler and blowing less plumes of smoke than them. But maybe I'm kidding myself. I dunno. 

Regardless, a filter simply goes a long way in helping me not get my mouth in an uncomfortable state. If "bite" is not the right word, then maybe "dried out" or "fuzzy and tingling".

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Erik
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Well spoken.  It further supports the idea that we all smoke our own smoke. 

However, like you, the filter is always the same smoke time after time for me. I generally get the same flavors, pace and temps every time with individual toboaccos through a filtered pipe. The Stokkebye Bullseye Flake is my best example: It absolutely ruins my day unfiltered, but in a filtered pipe, it’s wonderfully cool and offers good taste. Likewise C&D Apricot Cream rocks in a filter and is forgettable and painful unfiltered for me.

Go figure. 🤔 

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Joseph
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Posted by: VeeDubya
...conventional wisdom is that tongue bite is caused by smoking too fast and too hot. And I do believe that is often the case. But I'm not sure it's always the case.

Very good point! I totally missed this important aspect in my "problem solver" post above.

Aside from PH (acid vs alkali), which I have read can cause sensations on the front of the tongue when too acidic, and in the back of the throat when too alkaline, I, too, have noticed a "chemical" aspect to tongue bite above and beyond the temperature aspect. I always assumed it was because burning at higher temperatures can also change the smoke/steam to include some harsher and more bitter chemicals. It never occurred to me until reading your experiences (and those of @Erik) that some people have a mouth/saliva chemistry that just doesn't get along with some of the compounds ALWAYS PRESENT in some (or maybe all?) blends.

That is definitely a great reason to always use filters. You're definitely the only one who gets a vote! It's your mouth! 🙃 🤣 

As @Ted has mentioned elsewhere, (I can't find the post just now), his dentist cured his occasional tongue bite by knocking down oral bacterial flora. Any more info on that, @Ted?

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I have often wondered why pipes need to be smoked so slowly and so carefully while one can chain-smoke cigars or cigarettes like it's a race to create the most smoke possible and it's just not an issue in the slightest. Even with sweetened, flavoured cigars.

I mean, they wouldn't taste very good. But you wouldn't get "tongue bite".

Obviously I am somewhat guess-extrapolating based on experience; I've never actually tried that. 🤣 

Surely the temperature of burning tobacco isn't so wildly different in a pipe vs. a cigar that one has to be nursed ever-so-gently while the other can be absolutely hammered.

There must be something else going on too.

 

 

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Not much more to report, I do believe the dentist who suggested it was on to something. That was about 25 years ago when I got the advice to try using the original style Listerine and I still do to this day. I never have any irritation problems from any tobaccos since. It does make sense that some of the things living in our mouths could make the surface of our tongues more sensitive. 

Carelessness is the only thing that affects me now. Just a few days ago, I wasn’t thinking and got a little aggressive while re-lighting my pipe and had some tongue bite from the heat. So there’s still that. 

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VeeDubya
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This whole "lighting the pipe" thing is interesting. I generally use matches so I suppose it doesn't really apply. But I never would have imagined lighting the pipe would make much difference. I thought the general advice was to avoid jet-flame lighters simply to save the rim of your pipe (and that is, fwiw, the only reason I use matches - not some pretentious reason).

Or do you mean puffing too hard while relighting?

I assumed the first thing because @Joseph mentioned it as well.

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Puffing too hard can definitely do it, but the times like I mentioned above was when I was drawing in too hard upon lighting. I use butane lighters. I suppose matches would reduce the risk of that happening, although not eliminate it. Especially during a relight. 

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I tend to use 9mm filters in the pipes that call for them but only as a way to soak up the moisture. I do find they restrict the flow a bit even when they're new, and especially when used, so there's a bit of an internal debate about whether I should continue.

The little wood inserts that come with the Savinelli's work wonderfully and since my garage is basically a woodshop I think that might be the way forward for me.

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