Mac Baren HH Old Dark Fired

(3.55)
A bold flake of dark-fired burleys in a well balanced unity with flue cured Virginias. This flake is hot pressed, meaning that during the pressing, heat is added by steam to the tobaccos which causes the tobacco to intensify the marrying process giving us a bolder tobacco. The robust, earthly flavour of the dark-fired burleys shines through in the taste, and you will experience a deeply satisfying smoke indeed.
Notes: One of the most fascinating parts about this tobacco that will be sure to confuse a lot of American pipe smokers is that, despite the fact that HH Old Dark Fired contains zero latakia, Mac Baren still considers it an English because of the method used in its production, specifically the steam press.

Details

Brand Mac Baren
Blended By Per Jensen
Manufactured By Mac Baren
Blend Type Virginia/Burley
Contents Burley, Kentucky, Virginia
Flavoring
Cut Flake
Packaging 50 grams tin, 100 grams tin, 1 pound box
Country Denmark
Production Currently available

Profile

Strength
Medium to Strong
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Extremely Mild -> Overwhelming
Flavoring
None Detected
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
None Detected -> Extra Strong
Room Note
Tolerable
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Unnoticeable -> Overwhelming
Taste
Medium to Full
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Extremely Mild (Flat) -> Overwhelming

Average Rating

3.55 / 4
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
May 15, 2012 Strong None Detected Full Tolerable to Strong
It just seemed that the whole quote from Per Jensen should be included:

According to Per Jensen, Mac Baren Product Manager, the steam press makes it so that the "tobaccos marry faster and in a completely different way than what we normally produce. In short, they alter the taste. This blend is a heavy/strong tobacco with a lot of vitamin N."




My turn...

I ordered a tin as soon as I heard about this one, as I'm a fan of Dark Fired Kentucky. Everything I had read and heard sounded right on the money for my tastes. Was I disappointed? Not in the least. I took 4 of the small thin flakes out of the tin to dry them. Interestingly they REALLY dried. When I rubbed them out the flake 'fractured' into smallish thin brittle shards. Oh great! I thought. Well, I tried them anyway...and even though they were totally dried out they smoked really, really well. Then I mixed some fresh rubbed with the dried, about 50/50...and it also did really, really well...same burn, same flavors.

So...what did it taste like? It was deep and full and had that 'dark fired Kentucky' character. It wasn't sweet, but it wasn't bitter. To me, the dark fired essence was moderate...and didn't overwhelm the fullness of the Burley or the VA background. In other words there was a good balance and I would suggest this as a blend that might be enjoyed by those who appreciate any one of the components...as a change of pace from their usual fare.

The initial claims as to its strength I found to be a bit overstated...it's nowhere near the Gawith ropes, twists, etc. P's Irish Flake is stronger. But this is definetely above medium...on a 10 scale maybe a 6.5 or 7. On the scale they use here, that makes it "strong".

Though not one to make comparrisons very often, the best way I can describe this one is that it's like..."Gawaith Dark Flake Lite"...a bit lighter in flavor, in N and in overall impact. This doesn't make it any less of a blend, as that 'less-ness' allows its flavor profile to be more round, which I would call and asset. All in all it's absolutely excellent! Quite an achievement for MacBaren in my humble opinion. And lastly, as the tin is 3.5 oz. (100 gm) you get a decent handfull of the stuff, for which I'm very glad.

Very highly recommended.
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Jun 22, 2022 Strong None Detected Very Full Tolerable
Authentic, old timey, for the mature crowd. I imagine there were Mississippi riverboat captains that kept the pipe full of this. I love tobaccos that harken back to yesterday year. I love tobacco remind me of America. I love tobacco's with a full rich taste and lack complexity, they just get down to business.

Well, old dark fired fills the bill. This is a Virginia and Burley heavyweight. And the Burley tastes the way you want it to, not like haunted bookshop...blech! (Smoke enough crap and it starts to taste pretty good)

Sweet, smoky, fruity, spicy, with a constantly good tobacco flavor. Also, enough nicotine to keep a snuff user satisfied. I can't think of any occasion that this tobacco would be a bad choice for. This has been a go-to of mine for years. It delivers. Sometimes I know I want to smoke a pipe but I can't make up my mind what to put in it. Old dark fired is often my choice. Almost too good to smoke while working on a project. But I do it all the time, and feel like I really have it made.

Pipe Used: Cob
PurchasedFrom: Pipes and cigars
Age When Smoked: New, new and old
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Mar 14, 2022 Medium None Detected Medium to Full Unnoticeable
Because I have plenty of Bold Kentucky, I never bothered to buy this one but was able to sample a nice size bowl at our pipe club meeting. I smoked it in a Cob no less and this batch was dated Jan 2016. 6 years of age on this baby. I can’t really remember exactly what Bold Kentucky tastes like but this seems to me to be a little milder and maybe somewhat weaker in the nicotine department. A good smoke but since I also have Rustica, I see no need in buying another somewhat clone.
PurchasedFrom: Sample from friend
Age When Smoked: 6 years
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Mar 09, 2022 Medium to Strong Extremely Mild Medium Pleasant to Tolerable
Im a little late to the party with the HH line, call it a case of post mac-bite aversion, but I had heard and read many good things, particularly about Old Dark Fired, so I gave it a try. To start, the tin note is among the best of any tobacco Ive come across... maybe the best. Aromas of vinegar, ketchup, black pepper, hickory, a touch of smoked paprika. It's like ripe meat smothered in barbacue sauce that's been slow roasted on charcoal briquettes with a healthy side of ketchup. As mouthwatering as Chazz's mom's meatloaf. The flakes are moist, firm and leathery; they handle and pack well. I like to rub these ones out, rather than fold, and would recommend a quick drying of 10 minutes or so. Now, I am ashamed to admit, but I was once a cigarette smoker and, as a result, must confess to being a fast puffer, and with this toby I really have to force myself to sip slowly in order to bring out the flavours. If I smoke my usual quick cadence the flavours dilute and the delicious tin note gets lost behind the heat, almost to the point of being bland. When smoked patiently the flavour is more pronounced, yet I still wish it was more potent! The nicotine isn't the strongest Ive smoked, but it's no wimp and has potential to sneak up on you. To much relief, there was no bite whatsoever. A very good tobacco. I liked it alot. 3-3.5 as the flavour could be stronger. I would certainly recommend and will be perusing the rest of the HH blends.

*Edit - I'm upgrading to 4stars, because it is just that tasty. I took the advice of several other reviewers here, a wide bowl and open draw helps to get the fullest flavour out of this one. Thanks to all those that suggested it! Highly recommend. Cheers.
Pipe Used: Cobs
Age When Smoked: Fresh
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Mar 09, 2022 Medium to Strong None Detected Medium to Full Tolerable
Imagine you are wearing a comfortable flannel shirt that you had on the night before at an outdoor bonfire and you walk into a small, artisanal bakery where they're making fresh raisin bread. That's what it smells like when you open a tin of this gem. Can't speak highly enough about it. Smokes easily even if you puff like a proverbial steam engine. I've only smoked it rubbed out with a quick dry time of 5 mins or less but will experiment with smoking as a full flake. Great, great stuff!
Pipe Used: Savinelli Bent Billiard
PurchasedFrom: Smoking Pipes
Age When Smoked: Out of a new tin
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Dec 11, 2021 Medium None Detected Medium to Full Tolerable
Not as racy as the Kendal Kentucky, HH Old Dark Fired brings a more graceful mix of finely pressed Burley, Kentucky, and Virginia.

The pouch greets you with a thrill of earthy wood BBQ spice folded with tenderly sweet-grassy tart tones; strong but not brutish. This is a very attractive looking blend if I must say. Ebon-brown strips of rich cultured tobacco. And the taste, wow! Superbly balanced and deliciously amalgamated as one would expect from Mac B. ODF offers a full base tethered in a buttery toasted nuttiness and spiced deep wood.

The Virginia wraps around the overall bottom registration a sweet tangy charm. Smokey and very herby this one. Reminds me of the essence of basil and thyme combined. Mellow and highly enjoyable. This stuff is fine with a capital “F”
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Jun 08, 2021 Medium to Strong None Detected Medium to Full Tolerable
These flakes come a little moist and smell like bbq. More precisely they smell like lays bbq chips/crisps. A short dry time is needed for my tastes (30mins). Ive rubbed out and folded and there seems to be a little more earthyness and longer burn if folded, at the expense of more relights.

Sweet smokey bbq, tomatos and ketchup, a bit of brown sugar & molasses, oak & misquite, a bit of mole like chocolate/pepper notes in the background & a rich earth develops towards the bottom of the bowl. Sweet & Savory notes abound. This is like smoking a pork butt, but in your pipe. Delicious. When I smoke this one my SO says that I smell good, but kind of like bacon. And she's a vegetarian. That's not important though...

What is important is that you consider putting some ODF in your rotation. It's strong, savory, and smokes slow and cool. Much like a good brisket. Strength-wise it's on the strong side, but I recommend a big bowl if you handle it. The build up at the end is worth it. Doesn't bite much at all, in fact probably the tamest flake of the HH line. This is by far my favorite Mac Baren blend. Might be in my top 5 tobaccos ever depending on the day.

Pipe Used: Pots, Billiards, cobs
Age When Smoked: Fresh & 1-2 years
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Aug 29, 2020 Medium to Strong None Detected Medium to Full Strong
There is a lot going on here. Almost like a fine earthy cigar dipped in molasses, honey and chocolate. A little slowto get going but once it does this stuff is truly exquisite
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Jun 24, 2020 Strong None Detected Very Full Pleasant to Tolerable
Fabulous tin note. Unfortunately, it's one of those square tins that dry out rather quickly, so unless you plan on smoking the entire thing within a few weeks, transfer to a jar.

Lovely taste, although it is strong tobacco, so I tend to take frequent breaks during the bowl.
PurchasedFrom: SmokingPipes
Age When Smoked: Fresh from a new tin
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Apr 26, 2020 Medium Extremely Mild Medium Pleasant to Tolerable
This is the first tricky one for me because I got mixed signals, expectations and actual experience, I'll elaborate.

First my expectations reading reviews and fora were built up for this blend to be dark, smoky and strong.

The tin note is also perplexing: opening the tin gave me a strong and delicious smell of ketchup and barbecue, actual barbecue, not grilling, which means low and slow smoking of meat over many hours, think beef brisket, burnt ends and pulled pork shoulder. However once I unfolded the golden paper envelope the flakes were in that smell was replaced with that of pressed Virginia, nothing of the smells I associate with burley.

The presentation of the flakes is excellent: dark, neat, fairly chunky flake at a tad above perfect moisture, so needs a short drying time before firing up.

The taste, right off the bat, was wood. Oak wood in fact, freshly cut oak wood - not seasoned, dry and ready for the fireplace. It is a homely and very pleasant smell, associated in my mind with all sorts of pleasant experiences. This is the most "woodsy" tobacco I ever had, and should instantly demonstrate the difference between dark fired Kentucky and Latakia to less experienced people like me. Latakia is the smell of the fireplace (after the fire has died), while this is the smell of oak chips.

The taste is also perplexing because some puffs are incredible and others are a tad bland. The predominant taste is that of oak wood, with the occasional whiff of spice, and a hint of sweetness and sourness. The barbecue and ketchup also show up, but rarely. I didn't find it very full tasting, even when everything clicked together, I'd say for my taste it is more mild and pleasant than a bomb of any sort, but its smell and taste linger. Same can be said about nicotine, but I'm generally very tolerant to nicotine from pipe tobacco.

As I was writing this review I hadn't decided on the rating, I swung from 4 stars to 2 stars all the time from:

- "this is really great, complex, pleasant and mild enough to smoke all the time" to - "this is a bit bland, something's missing here, will enjoy it but won't miss it much" to - "hey as I am writing this review I recall all the great nuances this has to offer" to -"but then again quite a few puffs didn't really give me much" to - "can't fault it due to any expectation I built up before trying" to -"why/how on earth does this blend swing so much from great to bland?"

I'll go with middle of the road: 3 stars, that's my rating for tobaccos I like, but don't love (4 stars) or outright dislike but finish (2 stars), and nowhere near tobaccos I consider only good for giving away or dumping in the compost bin (1 star). It is a high quality product, if you're looking for strong tobacco you won't find it here, it is very pleasant and at times complex, but not always.

Edited June 2020 to 4 stars, this made me a dedicated DFK fan, it is really great.
PurchasedFrom: Estervals pipe house
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