Tabac Manil La Brumeuse

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Semois leaf is a rich, pure leaf burley tobacco that is grown and processed in Belgium in the Ardennes Valley (Val Ardennais) - think Battle of the Bulge. Highly reminiscent of smoking a cigar, but in a pipe, it is a fascinating tobacco that has been highly regarded in Europe for well over 100 years. From start to finish, the flavor becomes more and more pronounced, giving a reliable and enjoyable smoke. This is the thick-cut version (gross coupe).
Notes: According to the catalog from tabac-semois.com: Le Petit Robin is Coupe Fine/ Thin cut. Réserve du Patron is Coupe Moyenne/ Middle Cut. La Brumeuse is Grosse Coupe/ Big Cut.

Details

Brand Tabac Manil
Series Pure Semois
Blended By Vincent Manil
Manufactured By Vincent Manil
Blend Type Burley Based
Contents Burley
Flavoring
Cut Ribbon
Packaging 100 grams or 250 grams pack
Country Belgium
Production Currently available

Profile

Strength
Medium to Strong
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Extremely Mild -> Overwhelming
Flavoring
None Detected
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
None Detected -> Extra Strong
Room Note
Tolerable
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Unnoticeable -> Overwhelming
Taste
Medium to Full
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Extremely Mild (Flat) -> Overwhelming

Average Rating

3.33 / 4
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Jul 15, 2020 Strong None Detected Medium Tolerable to Strong
Pure Semois by Vincent Manil is a welcome oddity. For best results, it should be smoked very dry with a packed bowl. When smoked as described, the taste is very nutty and floral. The nic punch is pretty high, but it is a very enjoyable, albeit quick smoke. I would describe it in terms of single malt scotches... This is a single leaf smoke, with no other blending tobaccos. It's pure burley from a single farm in Belgium. I don't smoke it every day on account of the N kick, but it is a welcome addition to my rotation. Try this if you like pure burley from the old country.
Pipe Used: Bent briars
Age When Smoked: 3 years
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Dec 15, 2018 Medium to Strong Medium to Strong Medium to Full Tolerable to Strong
Semois (Pure) Thick cut, “La Brumeuse”, Vincent Manil Vancent Manil B-6838 Corbon Medium Cut

Belgium Burley. Very unusual tobacco. Comes in EXTREMELY dry brick. Breaks off in ribbons, almost a shag. Resembles tried hay. So dry is almost impossible to smoke without hydration, smokes too fast and extremely hot. Although it is recommended not to hydrate, I just broke the rules, but so dry took days to sort of hydrate. Hydrated it still smokes very hot and fast. Smoke is very dry, leaves almost no residue in pipe, pipe cleaner comes out clean. Full taste and strength (almost cigar like but not complex like a cigar) Just burley, but a different burley, earthy with some nuttyness, no sweetness. Slightly harsh. Midium-full nic. Best to smoke in a tall bowl, half full, to keep embers from flying out. This is a very dry tobacco. Different than any tobacco I have smoked. Smoked in an estate pipe labeled Dakota Special, not sure of maker. Not really recommended but an interesting change of pace

Addenum: After letting hydrated batch sit in a jar for a couple of months retried, much better experience. I still do not understand the unwritten rule of leaving it so bone dry. Dry it is unsmokeable to me, with embers flying out everywhere and smoking much to fast and hot; hydrated it is much more manageable.

This most recent smoke was at 5:00 am and was most pleasant. The nutty burley stands out, still smokes fast but not as fast or dry smoking as dry. One dimensional but in a good way. Will change to slightly recommended, recommend using a tall larger bowl because of fast burning.

Because it is so dry I am tempted to try and hydrate using some sort of flavored hydrated agent such as rum or liqueur instead of water. The super dryness make soak up the additional flavors.
Pipe Used: Addendum used Savinelli Series III
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Mar 02, 2018 Medium to Strong None Detected Very Full Tolerable to Strong
I am the only wuss to review this, I see; but, in a word, frightful! I understand that in certain Himalayan villages they smoke dried yak dung. If there are any Nepalese reading these threads, I'd be happy to trade some of this for some of that. To me, it's hot, dry, acrid, quick burning and not at all like anything I can recognise as pipe tobacco. As a schoolboy, I once tried smoking dried tea leaves in a pipe, and that is the nearest real-life comparison I can think of. De gustibus non disputandum, of course; but I found La Brumeuse thoroughly unpleasant. I have to go against the flow here and say: very definitely not recommended. Blecch!
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Sep 14, 2017 Medium to Strong None Detected Medium to Full Pleasant to Tolerable
The tobacco comes as a paper covered brick. When opened the first thing you notice is that its bone dry. However, I consider this a good thing. Wet tobacco means preservatives and humidifectants and while I dont know for certain this doesnt contain any, I strongly suspect this is pure, untainted leaf.

The brick note is strangely familiar. It triggers something in my mind of a simpler time, perhaps something I smelt in childhood, perhaps its akin to something my grandfather smoked. I wouldnt dwell on this except that I know other people have had similar experiences with the smell.

Mechanics are well documented, dont pack it too tight, dont draw it too hard, its dry so it will burn hot easily. The taste and aroma are not dissimilar to a mild cigar, indeed, the tobacco used in this is also available in cigar form. It can be quite strong so I wouldnt advise smoking it on an empty stomach, nor would I recommend it for beginners. I use it as something a little different when I dont feel like a standard blend but dont fancy committing to a cigar. That said, I could imagine the right person enjoying it as an all day blend.
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Sep 03, 2017 Mild to Medium None Detected Medium Pleasant to Tolerable
Very dry and brittle in the package. Obviously, this is the recipe for a very fast smoke. Pack tightly and sip very slowly. The smell of the baccy in the package, is one of a cigar, however IMO, it doesn't taste cigar-like. I don't want to repeat what has already been said, but upon lighting and smoking, this is a quentessential "retro hale" tobacco. Honestly, it is very different from all the others & understandably so, due to it's unique environment. To me, it is a little ashy, but with one very noticable flavor. That happens to be "un-buttered" corn. similarly to the first bowl or two, from a brand new MM cob ... but in a good way. Why? because I know that I am tasting tobacco and not cob wood.

For me, this is does not blow me away, as does Le Petite Robin (LPR), which I find delicious. It is interesting that in LPR, I do not taste any corn-like flavor, however when I add a pinch or two of La Brumeuse to LPR, the corny flavor is noticed. It's odd to me, since according to the official discription LPR already has pure semois present. Well go figure.

The bottom-line is that I find the corn flavor, very satisfying in La Brumeuse and when I'm looking for something that is one of a kind ... In this case, when I'm hankering for that unique & enjoyable natural "maize" flavor, I will always return to this.

Pipe Used: Well worn-in MM Cob
PurchasedFrom: SmokingPipes
Age When Smoked: 3 weeks
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Jan 27, 2017 Medium None Detected Medium to Full Tolerable
This tobacco comes ridiculously dry. When you squeeze it makes a nose like creasing paper and yet it’s quite elastic and does not crumble to dust! I guess this is the way it is supposed to be as it comes folded by hand in a sort of aluminium foil that is of course permeable by air.

And yes, it smokes nicely. The tobacco is mild, mild enough to allow inhalation if anyone desires to do so. It does not bite and surprisingly does not get hot! Pack tightly though.

No problems with lighting this tobacco, actually it is easy to smoke a whole bowlful with just one match…

It’s a very quick smoke – a quick fix I would say - but has an all-natural tobacco taste akin to a mild cigar. I’ve never taste a pipe tobacco tasting so much like a cigar before. It is quite interesting as a curiosity but it’s more than this, it’s an enjoyable tobacco that can have its moments. I am happy I purchased it but with so many great tobaccos out there I do not know if I will by buying again. Still it is recommended for a try at least. Furthermore it can be used in blends as a Burley substitute adding a very nice nuttiness to them. I've made a few blends myself which surprised me pleasantly (Semois, Orientals, a little unflavored Black Cavendish and a pinch of Latakia was very fine indeed).

Naturally I was curious to see how it would behave once moistened a bit. When moistened it still smells cigar-like and nutty out of the jar but a green grassy note is also apparent. Smoking is not bettered by moisture, it smokes wetter and hotter and most importantly flavor is not enhanced. Moreover it does bite a bit. So, If you want to experiment with moisture go ahead and see for yourself but I would suggest smoking Semois as dry as it comes.
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Apr 07, 2016 Mild to Medium None Detected Mild to Medium Very Pleasant
Vincent Manil's La Brumeuse Semois has become my favorite tobacco. It seems to be everything I have been looking for in a pipe tobacco since I first took up the pipe in 1999.

My jar is now ten months old. I noticed a substantial improvement at 8 months and am greatly looking forward to the one year mark and beyond.

I also have jar of the Reserve du Patron (medium cut) which is now six months old. I find that I prefer the La Brumeuse (thick cut). It is quite amazing what a difference the cut makes.

After ten months, when I open the jar, I am greeted with musty wet earth, soft honey, fennel, and jasmine fragrances, these translate beautifully into the fragrance and flavor of the smoke provided the pipe is packed very tightly and sipped very slowly.

This tobacco lights easily with one match and can be smoked straight to the bottom of the bowl without any relights leaving only a fine white ash.

The first few minutes of the smoke are spicy like a serano chilli pepper, complimented by floral fragrances reminiscent of green thai curry. After a short while, the flavors settle down and the smoke becomes soft and creamy, sweet, honey, fennel, jasmine, with a wonderful undertone of wet earth and mist. Which continues to the bottom of the bowl.

This tobacco pairs amazingly with Baochong, as it would with any oolong tea with floral or honey notes. This tobacco beautifully compliments the Spring fragrances in my backyard garden rich with fresh mown grass, sweet peas, and jasmine.

I imagine that La Brumeuse would also be lovely with gin and tonic or red wine. The perfect Spring, and I would imagine also Summer, smoke, it would also be lovely in Fall or Winter due to the musty notes. Somehow this tobacco--for me--seems perfect any time night or day, or during any season due to the many flavors and aromas it exhudes.

Like a good strong cup of oolong tea, it leaves the palate feeling fresh with a slight lingering astringency on the tongue--like applying some bracing witch hazel to the face after a shave.

Semois leaves a pleasant aftertaste of honey, fenol, and toasted rice/cereal which is delicate and not at all overpowering. For me this is a big plus as many (not all) tobaccos leave an aftertaste that I don't particularly care for or my tongue feeling scorched or abraided.

Yesterday, I was smoking Reserve du Paton across the street from where I work and was complimented by a fashionable lady on how good it smelled--so it wins points for being pleasing to passers by as well.
Pipe Used: Bruyere St. Claude Dux Depose Billiard
PurchasedFrom: PipesandCigars.com
Age When Smoked: 10 Months
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Mar 25, 2016 Mild None Detected Mild to Medium Pleasant
For purchasing, I have to recommend any shops in Belgium. LCDH in Knokke has them for the half the US price which I think is appropriate for these. US shops are ripping you with double the should be price.

My opinion for this tobacco is that it is indeed a Burley, the kind of leaf that is called "Black Tobacco" or Brun in Europe, but this one is in the milder side in flavor and strength with additional mild hints of flair to them which I guess is from the noted soil that makes them part from other black tobaccos. I get bread and floral notes as the base, occasional pepper a very little sweetness and a little nutty notes. I am a cigar smoker ( Havana Nicaraguan Dominican etc, "Wet" cigars that is) too and I have to deny any resemblance to any "Wet"cigar I have smoked. Italian cigars are made with Kentucky so they do have similar characteristics but they are much stronger and richer, Indonesian or dutch "Dry Cigars" could be the closest to this Semois, not in character and flavor, but in body and the whole experience . I have noticed that Semois are also made in cigar forms as done by Mr.Manil and other producers so that would be nice to try soon.

Many tobaccos are essentially Burley, Kentucky, Perique etc being the most known and also the European black tobacco or Brun are Burleys and they have high nic content but the lack of sugar compared to Virginias make the "Felt" nic level low and this Brumeuse is in my opinion Mild-Med in strength and body.

I would recommend this one to Burley Kentucky and Brun lovers for a mild change of pase. If you are new to black tobacco and let down by the mild body, I recommend you look for French Scaferlati and St.Claude(tobacco), Italian pipe tobacco like Forte Comune or even Italia which has more body and is richer.

One negative note is that it is said recommended to smoke in the dry state that they come, but while the flavors are fine the burn is occasionally violent with small sparks caused by tobacco stems burning. I would have to try them in a increased humidity level to see if that settles without altering the flavor or look threw for stems and get rid of them.
Pipe Used: St.Claude, Dunhill Innertube, Danmore
PurchasedFrom: Smoking Pipes, LCDH Knokke
Age When Smoked: 1 month
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Nov 09, 2014 Mild to Medium None Detected Mild to Medium Pleasant
Earthy, natural, clean tasting..

I sought out a pack of this after reading about Semois on a forum. Pipes & cigars had this brand so I decided to give it a shot. Its quite pricey but after reading how its grown, processed and packed on one farm I paid the premium for the artisan factor. I found it worth it and I'm glad I bought it.

Appearance: This comes in the pack you see above wrapped in foil. Upon opening the foil you find a rough chunky cut tobacco. It arrives bone dry and this is its intended state. I was expecting this and though I generally prefer my tobacco on the more humid side I did not try to rehydrate. It smells like plain natural tobacco.

Packing: I have read that this should be packed very tight and found that to be good advice. This very dry tobacco will burn very quickly if not. Don't be afraid to really cram it in the pipe.

Smoking: La Bremeuse takes to flame very easily due to its dry state. 1 light and tamp and its unlikely you will need to relight at all. I can only describe the taste as pure tobacco. It reminds me very much of Cotton Boll. Natural pure tobacco taste. Very easy to smoke and you must watch your puffing cadence or you will overheat it. I don't think this will bite, but if you over puff it you'll ruin the taste. Its to be sipped slow. When smoked properly you will be rewarded. Pure natural enjoyable smoke. Taste "clean" Some people report that Semois has a cigar taste. I dont get that flavor however. Flavor is consistent all the way to the bottom. This is a one dimensional smoke that will please Burley fans but that may turn some off. Don't look for complexity here you wont find it. It will burn down to a dry ash with no dottle. This could be a good blender if you're trying to improve the burning characteristics of another blend. Natural tobacco room note that I doubt will win you many fans but for me its fine. As for Vitamin N I'm basically immune fwiw..

Conclusion: Pure, clean, natural burley taste. Don't look for a huge heady complex smoke its not here..If you're not a Burley fan don't bother. Worth trying.

Oh one more thing, People say Semois could ghost a briar but I dont see how that could happen..its just natural tobacco. Theres no strong flavors here. Perhaps thats other brands??
Pipe Used: Cobs
PurchasedFrom: pipesandcigars.com
Age When Smoked: Fresh package
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Apr 14, 2014 Medium to Strong None Detected Medium to Full Tolerable to Strong
Like some of my favorite John Patton blends, this tobacco is quite dry but still smokes perfectly. Talk about getting your money's worth! The overall flavor is very reminiscent of what you would find in a decent Connecticut wrapper cigar.

When lit there are a few delicate spice notes along with an ammonia laced, "hay in the barn" like aroma. La Brumeuse burns quick, but somehow it manages to remain incredibly cool. Tongue bite just isn't in the cards here but this Semois does have some impressive strength. There's enough nicotine at play to give my mouth a good tingle and my throat a right quick lump. It's rustic, earthy, almost devoid of sweetness, but still quite flavorful and almost unlike anything else I have ever smoked. It does share some common traits with strong burley blends like G&H Dark Birdseye, but Manil La Brumeuse Semois is different enough to stand on its own when compared to most stout American or British burley offerings.

It’s difficult to find fault in something so strong, flavorful & pure but I do overall have a preference for sweeter and more complex tobaccos. Now that my curiosity for this exotic pipeweed is satisfied, I don't think I will pursue it any further. There's no doubt about it, La Brumeuse is good. But knowing my preferences I just wouldn't smoke this tobacco very often. However, I am very happy to have had the pleasure of sampling it.
Pipe Used: MM Diplomat
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