Peter Heinrichs Dark Strong Flake

(2.92)
New description: A spicy, danish cake-mixture from Virginia and Kentucky, that'll also appeal to Latakia-smokers. Aged cakes of red Virginia and fire-cured dark Kentucky tobaccos give this full- bodied, flavorful flake an unusually rich and naturally spicy taste. Not for neophytes, this one satisfies with old-fashioned deep taste. Good outdoors.

Details

Brand Peter Heinrichs
Series Special Selection
Blended By Orlik
Manufactured By Scandinavian Tobacco Group
Blend Type Virginia/Burley
Contents Kentucky, Virginia
Flavoring Other / Misc
Cut Flake
Packaging 100 grams tin, 200 grams tin, 500 grams bag
Country Germany
Production Currently available

Profile

Strength
Medium
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Extremely Mild -> Overwhelming
Flavoring
Mild
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
None Detected -> Extra Strong
Room Note
Pleasant to Tolerable
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Unnoticeable -> Overwhelming
Taste
Medium
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Extremely Mild (Flat) -> Overwhelming

Average Rating

2.92 / 4
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Apr 07, 2013 Medium Mild to Medium Medium to Full Pleasant to Tolerable
The woody, earthy red Virginia adds much of what sweetness there is: tangy and dried dark fruit. It's a bit subdued by the dark fired Kentucky, but that's not a complaint, just an observation. I consider the RV to be more of a condimental addition. The woody, lightly floral, nutty, vegetative Kentucky is a little deeper flavored with a touch more earth and a little spice. The bright Virginia offers tart and tangy citrus with a touch of grass and floralness as a condiment. The sugary black cavendish is a condiment. The molasses topping is mildly applied, and there's a touch of licorice as well. They sublimate the tobaccos to a moderate extent. The nic-hit is in the center of mild to medium. The strength and taste levels are medium. Burns cool, clean and a little slow with a very consistent sweet taste. Requires few relights, and leaves a little moisture in the bowl. Has a pleasantly lingering after taste. The room note is a tad stronger. Not an all day smoke.

Is it the very same tobacco as the Orlik Dark Kentucky? No, it isn't. Orlik Dark Kentucky was a slightly sweeter and easier on the tongue when I compared the two blends some years back. PH DSF seems just slightly harsher, and has a little more molasses than the licorice in the Orlik version. The red Virginia was a little more prominent in ODSK with more dark fruit flavor. You could see it a little more, too.

UPDATE 12-24-2014: I'm smoking a freshly opened tin, and the tobacco has changed from when I smoked it a couple of years ago. The Virginia is brighter with much less red, and doesn't have the level of dark fruit that it once had, and is a little sweeter. It still has the same molasses and licorice flavor, though I notice the licorice a little more than before. It has a little more grass and citrus that it didn't have before because the bright Virginia content is greater now, though the level of earthiness seems to be the same. It's also a tad spicier than it used to be. The sugary black cavendish is still a condiment. The strength and taste levels are the same, barely. The nicotine level lightly less potent. The burn rate and after taste are the same. Four stars for the older version, three for the new one.

UPDATE 6-23-2022: This blend has been radically changed. The label no longer mentions dark fired Kentucky or red Virginia. The amount of tart and tangy, grassy, bready, sour lemon, vegetative, mildly floral, sugary, acidic bright Virginia has been increased. Many flakes are predominantly bright Va. with a little black cavendish bookending the slices or are partly on one side. There are flakes and broken flakes that are pure black cavendish, but the proportions don’t average out the way they used to when dark fired Kentucky was used in this blend. Judging the 2016 production and this one side by side, the bright Virginia appears to have been increased by approximately twelve to fifteen percent. The very sweet and spicy black cavendish is the major component, and is described as having “its typical roasted aroma”. To my tastebuds, it appears that Kentucky was subjected to the black cavendish process as it certainly has a nutty presence that I associate with burley. The label states that a fruity plum topping was added. It mildly tones down the tobacco, although I still taste a little licorice despite the written omission of its presence on the label.

The strength and nic-hit are still medium, but the taste is now a step past that mark. It’s more floral, citrusy, sour, mildly spicier (due to the increase in the brights), and less sweet with distracting acidity. The black cavendish certainly has a little less strength than the dark fired Kentucky formerly used, and depending how you prepare your smoke, isn’t always the lead component unless you stack the bowl in its favor. However, that would leave you with a lot of bowls where the bright Va. is the major factor. There’s no chance of a consistent flavor unless you spend bit time manipulating the flakes to suit that purpose. Essentially, this is now the type blend where you can experiment with the proportions of the varietals for your own amusement. Moderately moist, it still burns a tad slow, and requires some relights. Leaves little dampness in the bowl and has a more acrid room note. It’s not an all day smoke. One and a half stars rounded down to one for this production largely due to the acidity and uneven distribution of the varietals. My rating at TR reflects this version.

-JimInks
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Aug 10, 2014 Medium to Strong Extra Strong Extra Full Overwhelming
Opening the tin you get an immediate smell of licorice along the lines of all-sorts. Smells delicious and the tobacco is broken dark and light flake. On light is where the problems begin, you immediately get a strong licorice taste, one the few tobacco's that deliver what it advertises BTW, and it goes south from there. The smoke degenerates into an acrid hot smoke all the way through. Tongue bite started about halfway through the bowl for me and that's when I called it quits. No thank you on this blend.
Pipe Used: Savinelli
PurchasedFrom: John Haynes Tobacconist
Age When Smoked: Unknown
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Sep 01, 2015 Mild None Detected Mild to Medium Pleasant
While I have not smoked many flakes, I think I'll pass on this one. I agree with what "pipestud" stated - issue with my tongue after smoking. Could be tongue bite, but not pleasant.

I've smoke this several time since this review WITHOUT any tongue issues.
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
May 23, 2016 Mild to Medium Medium Mild Tolerable to Strong
Dark-fired Kentucky is perhaps my favorite base tobacco, so how could I not give this one a shot? My favorites are in the vein of Mac Barens ODF and BK and Petersons Irish Flake. Finally got it in stock after months of backorder, so I quickly snatched a 200g tin. Immediately on opening, I'm hit with a fragrant blast of anise/licorice heavily sweetened by molasses. It's not off-putting...I dig that aroma. Orlik dark strong Kentucky has much the same profile, and I enjoy it. The half and half tan and black flakes are mostly intact, and pretty neat to look at, but quite a bit thinner and more fragile than Orlik.

It's after lighting up that the disappointment begins to build with this one. The smoke is not billowy, but rather flat and thin. There's barely any flavor to savor either, and what flavor I do get tastes like slightly sour or bitter licorice, if you can even imagine what that would taste like. And hot hot....boy does this tobacco ever burn hot. I've smoked about half the tin in a plethora of different sized and shaped pipes, even cobs and meerschaum. I am here to say if this tobacco doesn't have the capability to cause a pipe burnout, I don't know what would. May as well pack your pipe with an oak ember and have at it. I never have gotten severely bitten, which I find odd (likely attributable to the alkalinity of burley), but the heat and dry mouth is enough for one negative experience.

I can't recommend this one, and I'm afraid I must give my first ever 1 star rating. As much as I hate to. But this simply is not even a slightly pleasant smoke...I've had bad aromatics I'd reach for before this. Give Orlik Dark Strong a try if you're in the mood to try something similar. I'm willing to bet the lack of availability is the only thing driving demand for PH.

UPDATE 7/31/16: Still working my way through that 200g tin, holding out hope I may find an acceptable smoke in there. No luck, however, this stuff gets more bitey the older it gets. Seeing the positive reviews, I've often wondered if maybe I just got a bad tin. Even if that were the case, however, I'd not buy this one again. I only buy from blenders who have good consistency. Not one to waste money or baccys, I've donated the remainder of this batch, although I felt almost bad for the recipient in doing so! Perhaps he'll find enjoyment, and perhaps my tongue will begin to heal from the torment and burn scars of my DSF experience.
PurchasedFrom: pipesandcigars.com
Age When Smoked: 3 months
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Jan 16, 2014 Very Mild None Detected Extremely Mild (Flat) Pleasant to Tolerable
I had great expectations for this blend. I received approximately one ounce of this in a trade with another pipe smoker. The appearance was very pleasing, visually; dark, broken flakes, with a moderate amount of moisture. The note was very pleasing as well, Rich, earthy, with a hint of raisin. Lit easily. Upon first try it started as promising, but the flavor, what little there was at first lighting, quickly disappeared. I found this tobacco to be extremely bland and flavorless. It burned hot in every pipe I smoked it in no matter how deliberately slow I sipped away at it. Being one who smokes flake tobacco almost exclusively, I found it to be very disappointing. I will try it in a clay once more to see if it remains consistent with my previous experience. I'm just not getting this for whatever reason and I wish that weren't the case.
Pipe Used: Peterson 305, Peterson 317, IMP Meerschaum
PurchasedFrom: Received as part of a tobacco trade
Age When Smoked: 6 months
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Jul 22, 2013 Medium Very Mild Mild to Medium Pleasant to Tolerable
Reminds me of Orlik's D-K's little brother who just has not come of age, he's trying, but still can't get the girl, join the squad and has to stay home on weekends and play videogames all night. The flavor was ok, the burn and smoke volume were soso but if I had my druthers, I'd just smoke Orlik.

Smoke in peace, brothers and sisters of the leaf.
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