J. F. Germain & Son Germain's Medium Flake

(2.84)
Red, brown and gold Virginia tobaccos pressed to give a medium color and a medium rate of burn, with fruit extracts.

Details

Brand J. F. Germain & Son
Blended By J.F. Germain & Son
Manufactured By J.F. Germain & Son
Blend Type Straight Virginia
Contents Virginia
Flavoring Fruit / Citrus
Cut Flake
Packaging 50 grams tin
Country United Kingdom
Production Currently available

Profile

Strength
Mild to Medium
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Extremely Mild -> Overwhelming
Flavoring
Mild
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
None Detected -> Extra Strong
Room Note
Pleasant to Tolerable
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Unnoticeable -> Overwhelming
Taste
Medium
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Extremely Mild (Flat) -> Overwhelming

Average Rating

2.84 / 4
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Aug 21, 2021 Mild to Medium Very Mild Mild to Medium Unnoticeable
Germains Medium Flake - A flake ? A straight shag with a couple flake looking pieces easily pulled apart to a shag . Mostly bright Virginias with a few brown and less orange -red strands . Has that apricot smell like most Germain Virginias but I taste more orange in the smoke . The toppings are lightly applied . A lot of grass and hay and citrus . Some floral and bready notes . It is a good tasting very mellow smoke . I dont care for the cut , think three sails . You could easily roll this up if so inclined. I smoke pipes only for a long time . You have to smoke real slow to avoid bite . I haven’t pushed it to find out . It gets better at the bottom of the bowl . It is a good smoke but there are many better in this Genre . I wouldn’t buy again so I somewhat recommend 3 for taste , 1 for the cut . 2 stars
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Elk
Feb 13, 2021 Medium Mild Medium Very Pleasant
Opening the tin I find soft feeling brown broken flakes that smell sweet and fruity, just what I love in a virginia flake and so typical of this outstanding blending house. The various virginia's provide tons dark fruit , citrus, a little spice, bread and has some nicotine, which I love. I prefer a fresher tin to an aged one as I find over time these virginia's mellow out and become so delicate and smooth that I can't feel the smoke at all and I lose that slight spice hit I crave. Some may love this but I like to feel my smoke. However, the taste, sweetness and wonderful room note retain all of their pleasurable characteristics. I don't know why this one doesn't get great reviews but you would never know it by how difficult these tins are to aquire these days. Love this stuff, four stars!!!!
Pipe Used: Ben Wade English Hand Model
PurchasedFrom: Anywhere I can find
Age When Smoked: New and aged
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Jun 16, 2019 Mild to Medium Very Mild Mild to Medium Pleasant to Tolerable
I find some of the Germain's VA's VERY similar: Medium Flake, Goldleaf R/R, and then Esoterica's Peacehaven and Brighton, all seek to overlap very closely, one might guess that the Esoterica's are copies of the ones sold under the blenders name.With that said, a rose by any other name is still a rose. Medium flake is a flake in name only. It is so fine it immediately breaks apart when touched, the tobacco reminds me of semois in it's presentation, incredibly fine orange and brown strands. The tin note is sweet and fruity from what ever topping is used. I cannot quite nail it down but it seems to be apricot with orange and perhaps fig, not much tobacco aroma comes through but it is very pleasant. The top note either sublimates well with the tobacco's or the aroma is not as present in the flavor. The bright Virginia's are sweet and citrusy and the aftertaste is very nice. Flavor is fairly consistent down the bowl and the cut makes this burn to the bottom with almost one light if you are attentive. Great morning and summer smoke.
Pipe Used: Briar's, meerschaum and cobs
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Jan 01, 2019 Medium Mild Medium Pleasant to Tolerable
I picked up a tin without ever hearing of it in the past. I was expecting a "Flake" when I opened the tin, but got a broken flake almost a shag instead.

The cut makes it really easy to pack and light up. The flavor I got was "hay" with a fruit topping which I took to be maybe Apricot at the light. It burned easily with no fuss without any tongue bite.

I've found myself reaching for the tin quite often since I've opened it and I'll definitely purchase more in the future.
Pipe Used: various
PurchasedFrom: Smitty's Cigar Lounge
Age When Smoked: Fresh from Tin
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Mar 17, 2018 Mild Very Mild Medium Pleasant
Perhaps you are hoping to find something like the medium and darker VAs used in Germain’s fabled, elusive ET blends. Well, their Medium Flake is not that. Rather, it’s mostly moist (not wet), yellow and golden, flue cured, broken flakes in the tin, fermented and smelling very faintly of apricots and oranges, and more so of wet hay, grasses and leather. It can be plucked, loosely stuffed and smoked straight from a newly opened tin, and it will burn like this with constant attention; but it smokes better if it’s left to rest for a while then dried some. Lit, the smells and tastes parallel the tin note, hay and grasses, Seville oranges, and maybe just a suggestion of tonquin, very faint. It’s slightly tannic, also buttery, and it warns me that it will bite if it’s pushed. There is a vaguely musky, earthy quality to the grasses, earthier than F&T’s Golden Mixture, but it’s hardly an “earthy” blend, if you know what I mean. Strength is more mild than medium, and tastes can be tweaked to get them close to medium. Room note is pleasant. Aftertaste is a tapering off of the best of the smoke, provided no re-lights at the end of the bowl.

GMF has not been an easy smoke for me. I think I’ve spent more time so far evaluating it than I have smoked it for pure enjoyment, coaxing it and trying to decide how to describe and rate it. I’ve gotten to where it’s always great off the match. However, I’ve only had full, 4 star smokes from it a few times, always outdoors in a light breeze (?). It tends to get a little sour/acrid on me as I smoke it down, and I don’t mean by this that it’s “astringent” in a good way, like a nice Chenin Blanc. Still, I can’t shake the feeling that there’s more to it than I’ve been able to get to date. Perhaps aging will take care of it. For the nonce, in the interest of moving on, I’ll give it a 3, but I can’t give it 4, if only because the competition’s too tough in this Brave New World of Pipe Tobacco.
Pipe Used: VA briars
PurchasedFrom: Liberty Tobacco
Age When Smoked: fresh to 2 months
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Nov 06, 2007 Mild Very Mild Extremely Mild (Flat) Tolerable to Strong
Although this blend's got some similarities with Brown Flake, it lacks the depth provided by the mature Virginias in the latter. It also has some fig topping that is very nice to smell in the tin but not that pleasant to my palate.

With so many great Virginias out there, there is no reason to recommend this one.
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
May 22, 2005 Medium to Strong Mild to Medium Medium to Full Tolerable to Strong
A smoke very similar to Samuel Gawith's Best Brown Flake except a little sweeter.. There's a hint of grassy hay-like overtones and is sharper in flavor than Germain's Brown Flake. A enjoyable pure Virgina smoke.
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May 30, 2020 Medium Extremely Mild Mild to Medium Pleasant
I asked my local tobacconist to get me a list of rare tobacco blends. He focuses 70% on cigars, and only 30% pipe. Most of his collection was C&D, and Dan's Tobacco. He finally began receiving Esoterica. He is now well stocked on Esoterica. He has 7 of the blends including Penzance. I recently asked him to try to acquire the Germain's 1820 flake, and the Balkan sobranie. I'm waiting to hear from him. He also received 2 tins of Germain's medium flake which I purchased from him at $20 a tin. I love this guy. He has the best tobacco business I've seen in a 200 mile radius. I finally opened one of the Germain's Medium Flake 45 minutes ago. It is silky smooth strands of golden and dark golden Virginias.

Smells like hay. Really, and nothing but hay.

It tastes like hay more than any other blends of VA, or Vaper. It is so delicious that I think I'm going to ask him to get me few more. It has subtle sweetness with no artificial flavor detectable.

It is semi moist in tin, but ready to smoke in 10 min. It lights up surprisingly fast and burns evenly due to its strand-like form. It stays lit with little effort. This allows you to puff very gently and enjoy it without constantly worrying about relight.

It burns moderately hot. No worse than typical Virginia. It tastes the same from beginning to the end. Very consistent and well behaved. What a gem is this. I hate to say it, but after trying all the Esoterica line, and now this medium flake from Germain's, now I definitely agree with the hype. This company is unique. All their tobacco blends taste aged. To give you an example, the Esoterica Penzance that is sitting in my local tobacconist shelf is covered by this fine sugar powder Crystals.

And so, this tobacco also feels very grounded. Even though it is all Virginia, it is very mature, and stable. Get in contact with your tobacconist. That's the only way.
Pipe Used: Vauen billiard. 9mm filter
PurchasedFrom: Local tobacconist
Age When Smoked: 6 months
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Mar 31, 2020 Mild to Medium Medium to Strong Medium Unnoticeable
Like the other poor souls I fell into the same trap with this one. Thinking that this was merely a virginia flake I ordered it. I was surprised therefore, when the open pouch (not a tin) gave off a strange odour.

I couldn't identify this scent at first; tangerine/orange/satsuma was the last thing I expected. The next thing I found was the cut. There was clearly welded flake strips in a mass at the bottom of the pouch, but the tobacco resembled candy floss. Not in taste or colour, obviously, but the look and feel was wispy, cobweb-like almost. I've had this style of tobacco before somewhere, but just can't place where.

I pulled this loose mass of (not sticky) tobacco out and found that it needed pulling apart to a degree before loading.

The smoke was somewhat brief. It burnt through very quickly and I found that the zesty, tangy flavour almost overrides the virginia. It comes through in the smoke and appears like a tide of orangey citrus sea that washes around your mouth. I found it had a mild soapy taste when halfway through the bowl. Not quite as nasty or prononced as those Kendal blends (and Larson's reserve).

I am not sure I could smoke this continually, especially in my briars, as it might ruin them and am treating this as an aromatic and will let the meers loose on it. Certainly can't recommend this as a viginia.
Pipe Used: Briars latterly meers
PurchasedFrom: Smoke-King (Greens)
Age When Smoked: New
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Sep 16, 2019 Mild to Medium Medium Mild to Medium Pleasant to Tolerable
I have tried to like this blend but it is not my sort of tobacco. It is heavily dosed with an orange/tangerine topping and this has not dissipated any in the 9 months in the jar. It lights readily but has a tendency to burn hot with the cut being very fine like a cigarette shag. There is something else going on though, as it seems to be incompatible with my mouth in a chemical Ph sort of way. Maybe it is too acidic for me, who knows ? Taste is tolerable but, as cool as I can smoke it, it bites me. I tried drying it for a long time and no improvement. It is one of the few blends that has beaten me, and I have tried a few, from the strongest twists and plugs to the mildest virginia blends. Good luck if you like it, but I can not recommend it.

Update:- 17/12/19

Now over 12 months old and I still can't get a good cool smoke from this blend. I determined to give it one last try in a Peterson 303 System pipe (very cool smoker and avoiding direct tongue bite with the P lip ) and it lit flawlessly and burned cool for all of 5 puffs, and then assaulted my tongue with a sadly familiar chemical tingle, and I stopped short of a full tongue bite. I will gift it to some other more fortunate piper who can enjoy it better than I am able to. Most frustrating !
Pipe Used: Various
PurchasedFrom: GQ Tobaccos
Age When Smoked: 9 months
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