McClelland No. 5105 Stoved Virginia
(2.80)
This tobacco is the style of black Virginia cake tobacco that has been given classic English mixtures their characteristic flavor and refinement of quality. Similiar to Rattray's Black Virginia or Dark Fragrant.
Details
Brand | McClelland |
Blended By | McClelland Tobacco Company |
Manufactured By | McClelland Tobacco Company |
Blend Type | Straight Virginia |
Contents | Virginia |
Flavoring | |
Cut | Broken Flake |
Packaging | Bulk |
Country | United States |
Production | No longer in production |
Profile
Strength
Mild
Extremely Mild -> Overwhelming
Flavoring
None Detected
None Detected -> Extra Strong
Room Note
Pleasant
Unnoticeable -> Overwhelming
Taste
Mild to Medium
Extremely Mild (Flat) -> Overwhelming
Average Rating
2.80 / 4
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Reviews
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Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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| Feb 27, 2012 | Extremely Mild | None Detected | Very Mild | Pleasant to Tolerable |
A blending tobacco that can be smoked straight. I did both with it. Very black in the bag with the unmistakeable aroma of tangy virginia.
Smoked straight, this was an extremely mild blend that was easy on the tongue and on the tastebuds. Probably close to no nicotine. Very similar to Rattrays Black Virginia, and just as hard to keep lit, at least initially. Very reticent to take to the match and I had to relight early and often. Once it gets going - about 1/3 down the bowl - it does better. Not much to get excited about straight but certainly inoffensive and non-biting. Nowhere near as good a straight smoke as McClellands Black Shag, also a stoved VA.
As a blender, this is a critical component. I blend it with #5100 and perique and create a nice, subtley spicy smoke. But for me it's blending qualities shine when mixed with a lemon VA. It tones down the citrus quality and adds a fair amount of tang. Definitely creates some additional complexity as well. 2 stars as a straight smoke, 4 as a blender.
Smoked straight, this was an extremely mild blend that was easy on the tongue and on the tastebuds. Probably close to no nicotine. Very similar to Rattrays Black Virginia, and just as hard to keep lit, at least initially. Very reticent to take to the match and I had to relight early and often. Once it gets going - about 1/3 down the bowl - it does better. Not much to get excited about straight but certainly inoffensive and non-biting. Nowhere near as good a straight smoke as McClellands Black Shag, also a stoved VA.
As a blender, this is a critical component. I blend it with #5100 and perique and create a nice, subtley spicy smoke. But for me it's blending qualities shine when mixed with a lemon VA. It tones down the citrus quality and adds a fair amount of tang. Definitely creates some additional complexity as well. 2 stars as a straight smoke, 4 as a blender.
Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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| Mar 26, 2014 | Very Mild | None Detected | Very Mild | Pleasant to Tolerable |
The stoved Virginias offer a little tart and tangy citrus, a bit of tangy ripe dark fruit, plenty of sugary stewed fruit, a lot of earth, wood, light bread, a hint of spice, and a couple blades of grass. The strength, nic-hit, and taste levels are very mild. Won't bite or get harsh, but it does have a few rough edges. It certainly needs some dry time. Burns cool, clean, rather wet and slow with a very consistent flavor to the finish. Leaves some moisture in the bowl, and requires a fair amount of relights. Has a short lived, pleasant after taste, and room note. A fairly ordinary all day smoke that surprisingly lacks depth and body. I know it's mainly used as a mixer, so it's two stars straight, three as a mixer.
-JimInks
-JimInks
Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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| Apr 10, 2015 | Mild | None Detected | Very Mild | Pleasant |
This is very mild in flavor, but has a wonderful sweetness to it. I've been using it as a blender to add sweetness without changing the flavor of the blend I'm working with. It's excellent for that purpose.
Mild in body. Very mild in flavor. Burn isn't the best by itself. Once blended it causes no problems.
Mild in body. Very mild in flavor. Burn isn't the best by itself. Once blended it causes no problems.
Pipe Used:
MM Country Gentleman, MM Mark Twain, MM Morgan
PurchasedFrom:
smokingpipes.com
Age When Smoked:
fresh bulk
Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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| Aug 18, 2010 | Extremely Mild | None Detected | Very Mild | Very Pleasant |
Oh wow, now here's flavor and strength! It has been pressed to the point of no return and no matter how hard you puff it will not bite. It burns well and provides Virginia lovers with the flavor and depth as well as sweet spots all the way down the bowl. Delightful stuff!
Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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| Jan 30, 2009 | Mild | Extremely Mild | Mild to Medium | Pleasant |
Having read a few reviews from some of you gents who tried a bowl of this by itself, I smiled at your one- or two-star ratings. This is meant to be a blending product! I'd highly doubt that many in the world smoke this by itself....
Try this for a really nice pound to age: 10 ounces of 5100 Red Cake, 4 ounces of this Stoved VA, and 2 ounces of McLelland's Blending Perique. If you like a stronger VaPer, by all means, add an ounce or more, and subtract it from the 5100. But, leaving the four ounces of 5105 is a key. Obviously, stoving hastens the sugar development, and yields real aging benefits. I have pounds of this aging at present, in varying strengths of Perique. I recently broke the seal on one of my Mason jars and went through a jar of the above blend that was merely 13 months old, and found it to be marvelous already. In a year or two, it'll be special, I believe. Will it be the next Escudo? Nah... but it will be a far more economical everyday go-to blend.
I'm a huge fan of Rattray's Hal-O-The-Wynd, and was happy to learn that Smokingpipes.com is now selling this in 17.5 ounce bags. I bought my first bag, mixed in 4 ounces of 5105, and have sealed the blend in more Mason jars. (Quart-sized) These funny little black sticks of stoved VA will help to soften the HOTW, and I'll bet that when I first smoke it, it'll be marvelous. A year should even make a great difference.
Making our own blends is fun, though highly subjective. But as a blending tobacco, I'm at a loss without 5105. I know of no other bulk stoved VA out there quite like this.
Try this for a really nice pound to age: 10 ounces of 5100 Red Cake, 4 ounces of this Stoved VA, and 2 ounces of McLelland's Blending Perique. If you like a stronger VaPer, by all means, add an ounce or more, and subtract it from the 5100. But, leaving the four ounces of 5105 is a key. Obviously, stoving hastens the sugar development, and yields real aging benefits. I have pounds of this aging at present, in varying strengths of Perique. I recently broke the seal on one of my Mason jars and went through a jar of the above blend that was merely 13 months old, and found it to be marvelous already. In a year or two, it'll be special, I believe. Will it be the next Escudo? Nah... but it will be a far more economical everyday go-to blend.
I'm a huge fan of Rattray's Hal-O-The-Wynd, and was happy to learn that Smokingpipes.com is now selling this in 17.5 ounce bags. I bought my first bag, mixed in 4 ounces of 5105, and have sealed the blend in more Mason jars. (Quart-sized) These funny little black sticks of stoved VA will help to soften the HOTW, and I'll bet that when I first smoke it, it'll be marvelous. A year should even make a great difference.
Making our own blends is fun, though highly subjective. But as a blending tobacco, I'm at a loss without 5105. I know of no other bulk stoved VA out there quite like this.
Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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| Feb 17, 2017 | Very Mild | Extremely Mild | Very Mild | Pleasant |
McClelland - No. 5105 Stoved Virginia.
Opening this caused a bit of a disappointment, initially, as it looked too dry. Other than that, though, there isn't many issues. There also isn't much to say about the smoke! I'll try though.
This is simple: I get a sweet flavour, coupled with some subtle Virginia traits, not much nicotine, quite a cool smoke, and no bite. I can see this being a great component for adding to a raucous blend to reduce any feistiness. I find it a bit of a bore on it's own though.
For use as a blending tobacco/calming agent I'll recommend it. I would give it four if it weren't for the first issue with the moisture.
Three stars.
Opening this caused a bit of a disappointment, initially, as it looked too dry. Other than that, though, there isn't many issues. There also isn't much to say about the smoke! I'll try though.
This is simple: I get a sweet flavour, coupled with some subtle Virginia traits, not much nicotine, quite a cool smoke, and no bite. I can see this being a great component for adding to a raucous blend to reduce any feistiness. I find it a bit of a bore on it's own though.
For use as a blending tobacco/calming agent I'll recommend it. I would give it four if it weren't for the first issue with the moisture.
Three stars.
Pipe Used:
Altinok Lee Van Cleef Meer'
PurchasedFrom:
4noggins
Age When Smoked:
Three weeks
Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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| May 02, 2013 | Very Mild | None Detected | Mild | Pleasant to Tolerable |
I purchased this in bulk from a great tobacconist in Gaylord Michigan, Ash Tobaccos. He carries McClelland for all of his bulks and will readily translate from his shop's names to the McClelland names.
The reason I point this out is due to the fact that many claim this to be a blending tobacco yet it was not contained in the section that he has for blending tobaccos, so I am not sure of whether it is the intent of McClelland that this be a blender or not. Of course, anything can be a blender if the user so chooses.
I smoked it straight. I had two ounces and split it up with a friend in exchange for some of the 2015 he had purchased. I would say I got the better end of the bargain. This tobacco is nice and mild and has a slightly sweet cider taste to it.
It did burn wet as anything and the pipe gurgled bad necessitating a swab with a cleaner with every smoke. I can't give this better than two stars based on both this and the fact that there are just too many other vas that I would opt for before this. As a blender it may well go up to three stars or four, but that was not how I used it and my blending experience so far has kept me to buying blends created by experts.
The reason I point this out is due to the fact that many claim this to be a blending tobacco yet it was not contained in the section that he has for blending tobaccos, so I am not sure of whether it is the intent of McClelland that this be a blender or not. Of course, anything can be a blender if the user so chooses.
I smoked it straight. I had two ounces and split it up with a friend in exchange for some of the 2015 he had purchased. I would say I got the better end of the bargain. This tobacco is nice and mild and has a slightly sweet cider taste to it.
It did burn wet as anything and the pipe gurgled bad necessitating a swab with a cleaner with every smoke. I can't give this better than two stars based on both this and the fact that there are just too many other vas that I would opt for before this. As a blender it may well go up to three stars or four, but that was not how I used it and my blending experience so far has kept me to buying blends created by experts.
Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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| Jul 06, 2009 | Mild | None Detected | Medium | Tolerable |
Bulk: Coal black. Looks like a pressed sheet of flake that was rubbed out into hard splinters. A light sweet scent.
Packing & Burning: Gravity feed, then use constant tamping and puffing to concentrate the taste. It takes a relight regularly.
Taste & Aroma: Initially just moderately sweet, but mid bowl, good stoved VA qualities develop, rich, dark, almost carmelized, not bitey. Akin to mildly carmel, browned popcorn. Also a nutty chocolate complexion.
Nicotine: Mild
Room Note: Tolerable
Overall: This one matches the qualities its expected to have. 5105 gives a good idea of what a stoved VA is all about. Use a large bowl to bring out these characteristics. 3.8 stars.
Packing & Burning: Gravity feed, then use constant tamping and puffing to concentrate the taste. It takes a relight regularly.
Taste & Aroma: Initially just moderately sweet, but mid bowl, good stoved VA qualities develop, rich, dark, almost carmelized, not bitey. Akin to mildly carmel, browned popcorn. Also a nutty chocolate complexion.
Nicotine: Mild
Room Note: Tolerable
Overall: This one matches the qualities its expected to have. 5105 gives a good idea of what a stoved VA is all about. Use a large bowl to bring out these characteristics. 3.8 stars.
Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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| Nov 28, 2006 | Mild to Medium | Extremely Mild | Mild to Medium | Pleasant |
A very good stoved, beautifully dark Virginia. IMHO, a perfect all-day/anytime smoke. My 'sample' lit promptly, burned evenly and did not bite my tongue, although my mouth did get a tad dry when I was puffing at this blend. (Remedy: don't puff this blend!)
The so-called McClellend catchup odor was absent, but there was a faint, slightly spicey aroma from the (bulk) package contents. Very good moisture content. The only negative comment I will make is that I was expecting a little bit more from this blend, and I will agree with some other reviewers in that it is 'monochromatic' in its overall aspect. However, I have purchased pricier VAs that do not measure up to this blend. Generally, I think that VA smokers will truly enjoy this blend, as I did.
The so-called McClellend catchup odor was absent, but there was a faint, slightly spicey aroma from the (bulk) package contents. Very good moisture content. The only negative comment I will make is that I was expecting a little bit more from this blend, and I will agree with some other reviewers in that it is 'monochromatic' in its overall aspect. However, I have purchased pricier VAs that do not measure up to this blend. Generally, I think that VA smokers will truly enjoy this blend, as I did.
Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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| Oct 26, 2006 | Mild | Very Mild | Medium | Pleasant |
TANGY
Nice, great for stoved VA fans- Great price in bulk. I find it similar to me to Dark Star, with greater emphasis on 'tangy' and less diverse and rich. A daily stoved VA smoker would find this a good buy. The 'tang' dominates and grows torwards the bottom of the bowl. BETTER PICK: DARK STAR OR BLACKWOODS
BETTER PICK: MCCLELLAND CHRISTMAS CHEER 05' OR 06
Nice, great for stoved VA fans- Great price in bulk. I find it similar to me to Dark Star, with greater emphasis on 'tangy' and less diverse and rich. A daily stoved VA smoker would find this a good buy. The 'tang' dominates and grows torwards the bottom of the bowl. BETTER PICK: DARK STAR OR BLACKWOODS
BETTER PICK: MCCLELLAND CHRISTMAS CHEER 05' OR 06