Rattray Wallace Flake

(3.00)
We would describe 'Wallace Flake' as the Holy Grail among the flakes. Try these extraordinary creation, and you will know why we stick out our neck that far. Virginia tobaccos, whose color ranges from golden to chocolate brown, were combined with sun-dried India and finally refined with a very fine plum aroma.
Notes: After K&K lost the Peterson range to Mac Baren, they did not want to waste their recipes. They tweaked them a little and simply renamed the old Peterson line to be re-released under the Rattray's label: Malcolm Flake being Erinmore Flake; Sterling Flake being Irish Flake; and Wallace Flake being University Flake.

Details

Brand Rattray
Series Flake Collection
Blended By Kohlhase & Kopp
Manufactured By Kohlhase & Kopp
Blend Type Virginia/Burley
Contents Burley, Virginia
Flavoring Plum
Cut Flake
Packaging 50 grams tin
Country Germany
Production Currently available

Profile

Strength
Medium
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Extremely Mild -> Overwhelming
Flavoring
Mild
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
None Detected -> Extra Strong
Room Note
Pleasant to Tolerable
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Unnoticeable -> Overwhelming
Taste
Medium
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Extremely Mild (Flat) -> Overwhelming

Average Rating

3.00 / 4
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Nov 11, 2022 Medium to Strong Mild Mild to Medium Pleasant
Ever since I found out that after transferring Peterson tobacco production to Orlik/STG facilities the crafty and sneaky Germans from Kohlhase & Kopp managed to preserve recipes of almost all Peterson tobacco products and start producing them under new names in the Rattray line I could not stop thinking about to test them with originals and compare. Today's hero is Peterson University Flake which I got in three versions: the 2010 Kohlhase & Kopp square tin (hereinafter UF K&K), its clone, the Rattray Wallace Flake of 2022 (hereinafter WF), and the August 2021 University Flake by Scandinavian Tobacco Group (hereinafter UF STG).

Appearance: on the whole, all the tobaccos are similar to each other, presenting a wonderfully well-cut flake of several Virginias of various treatments - and Burley. Only the UF STG can be faulted, with its slightly darker shade giving off a higher moisture content. Alas, the UF STG has the touch has an obvious presence of glycerine and propylene glycol, which cannot be said about the other two tobaccos. UF K&K also dried a little during storage, the flake didn't feel so dense, but still retained its shape. Overall all three left a good impression, although UF STG would need some time to dry out.

Flavor: this is where the first differences begin. I'll try to describe the difference in aroma.

UF K&K: it smells like a good plum biscuit lying on a wooden cutting plate - each note of flavor is woven into the overall bouquet, all together they create an amazing harmony, it literally wants to be eaten. It's very difficult to isolate the nuances of the aroma, although of course the plum gently prevails, creating a general background supported by notes of biscuit dough with an almost subtle touch of vanilla and cinnamon. As for the burley, it hardly shows itself, being present only in the form of soft woody and nutty notes in the background.

WF: reminiscent of Tyrolean plum cake - it cannot boast of such harmony in flavor, however, all the notes of the aroma, though not constituting a whole, are perceived quite appropriately and with the right intensity. Plum, of course, dominates, somewhat detached from the rest of the bouquet. Also, the bread notes have a slightly different quality here, not so soft and airy, dry a littlle, and the vanilla and cinnamon are barely perceptible. The woody-walnut notes of burley, as slightly detached as with the more mature tobacco, but still more noticeable. Perhaps over time, the overall flavor of WF could compete with the 12-year-old original, becoming softer and more solid. But for a fresh tin, and also being a “copy”, it's great.

UF STG: it's a batch of grandma's plum jam, which you stolen with an old wooden spoon straight from a jar open for a pie, for which, alas, the dough hasn't even been kneaded yet. The plum flavor is brighter, more pungent, and I also managed to smell a slight note of molasses. Woody notes of burley are also more noticeable, and what's more, a walnut note permeates the overall flavor as well. And, the other side, Virginia bread notes, alas, got pokey - they are barely noticeable in the flavor to favor of a brighter plum aroma and burley notes. Moreover, rubbing the tobacco in my hands, I managed to catch a slight scent of hay, but the bread note was equally subtle and unnoticeable.

Taste: there are differences in this aspect as well.

UF K&K: Initially a little drier in flavor than expected from such a flavor, the tobacco quickly gains sweetness and after a couple of minutes is fully consistent with its aroma. Calm biscuit notes framed with plum are in a harmonious balance, setting the base. The woody and nutty tones of birch barely support them, complemented by a very slight hint of cinnamon, the resemblance to which is enhanced by the fact that I felt tobacco as a little tongue-twisting. However, the overall taste of the blend is absolutely mild, without any roughness. As you smoke, the burley adds nuttiness, catching up with the woody notes in intensity, but doesn't step out of the shadow of the main, plum biscuit flavor. The strange thing (for me) is that burley doesn't bother me at all in this blend, remaining a minor player but being nonetheless highly noticeable. What's interesting: whichever padding I tried, the tobacco flavor remained quiet without getting brighter. The tobacco smokes cool, dry and slow, burning out into a dusty light grey ash. I didn't want to take any risk, so I only stuffed one flake plate into the pipe, but the tobacco still seemed stronger than average to me. Separately, I can say that in both bent and straight forms of pipe the tobacco has almost the same taste. The aftertaste is fruity and woody, a little astringent, soft, but quite persistent.

WF: Amazingly, the taste of the tobacco is almost entirely consistent with its flavor. Slightly buttery notes of sweetly sandy pastry, a slightly bright but still very mild plum flavor, a barely noticeable presence of cinnamon and only the merest of woody and nutty notes in the background. As you smoke, the woody and nutty notes increase slightly in flavor, leaving the Virginia in the foreground, along with the plum filling. The tobacco taste is slightly sweeter than the original. I've smoked WF both whole and broken flake, and I have to say it's a bit brighter in the broken form, which makes sense. The tobacco smokes cool, dry and slow (and in the case of whole flake - very slow), burning to a perfect dust of light grey. It is reasonably tolerable for a beginner, although if smoked too hot, the plum will be the first to disappear. Also worth considering is the fact that the strength of WF is slightly above average - having puffed a plate and a half into the pipe, I felt a nicotine hit at the end, soft and slight, but perceptible. The tobacco, just like the original, tastes pretty much the same in both straight pipes and bents. Also, its aftertaste is also pretty much the same as the original - fruity-woody, slightly astringent, soft and quite persistent.

UF STG: The woody and nutty notes of burley are more prominent in the taste of this tobacco than the earlier versions, while the sweetness is much less noticeable. The taste is considerably simpler and more reminiscent of the usual Virginia-Burley blend, as the plum tones become imperceptible in the middle of the pipe, being replaced by herbal and - finally! - bread-like Virginia notes. Besides, the tobacco itself is much more demanding to the temp of smoking at the beginning of the pipe, and has a certain 'roughness' in taste, though becoming softer towards the middle of the pipe. The tobacco smokes a little hotter, burning into a grey ash. The strength of the tobacco is above average, as in the previous two variants, and the taste is unchanged from pipe to pipe as well.

The smoke from UF K&K and WF has almost the same flavor. Smoking the tobacco creates a luxurious ambience in the room - slightly sweet, with an aroma of wood and all the same plum. Fairly persistent but loose. The smoke from UF STG has a more pronounced woody flavor with a hint of ash. It's hard to call it luxurious, but it's not irritating.

What's the bottom line? Next, as always, solely my opinion. First of all, all the assurances that Kohlhase & Kopp has done some kind of 'tweaking' of the recipe that came into his hands, I would call untenable. Yes, the fresh Wallace Flake has slightly different taste and aroma, but these nuances are so insignificant that I am pretty sure that if I had a tin of 7 years aged Rattray Wallace Flake in my hands, I would not be able to tell which tobacco is which in a blind test - although I know University Flake pretty well. Of course, the 12 year aged version of University Flake by Kohlhase & Kopp looks more advantageous in our comparison. But it is no longer in production, although you may come across old stocks from time to time on the secondary market. If you come across such a tin - touch a legend, it's worth it. As for the two versions remaining on the market, Wallace Flake is much more interesting than the current University Flake by STG, which has kept its name, but has lost the charm of the original recipe. All indications are that the composition of the current version definitely has been changed to somewhat aside from the original, and that has clearly not come in its favor. As for Wallace Flake, if the opportunity arises, I'll stock up on a tin or two to open them after ten years aging and see if the aged Wallce Flake can resemble the original.
Pipe Used: Peterson 14B, 69, 80s, 106, 150, 999
PurchasedFrom: Smuggled from Europe
Age When Smoked: Fresh
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Mar 26, 2017 Mild to Medium Mild Mild to Medium Pleasant to Tolerable
The grassy/hay-like, tart and tangy citrusy, lightly tangy dark fruity, woody, earthy Virginias also sport hints of floralness and bread as they take the lead over the obvious earthy, woody, nutty, lightly molasses sweet and spicy, toasty burley. The plum topping mildly tones down the tobacco, and weakens slightly in the last quarter of the experience. The plum is not quite as rich as it is in University Flake. The strength and taste levels fall a tad short of medium. The nic-hit is mild to medium. Won’t bite or get harsh, and has no rough edges. Burns cool, clean, and slightly slow with a fairly consistent flavor. Leaves little dampness in the bowl, and requires some relights. Has a lightly lingering, pleasant after taste, and slightly stronger room note. Can be an all day smoke.

-JimInks
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Mar 06, 2014 Medium Very Mild Medium Pleasant to Tolerable
Beautiful dark flake mottled with lighter elements.

Tin note: plum, but not overly so. May be a casing. If a topping done very lightly.

A flake more in the English tradition (think Capstan, Four Square, perhaps) than in the Danish.

Flavorful, enjoyable, bordering on the stout, it rubs out well, burns slowly and well, providing a good medium (noticeable) dose of nicotine.

No big surprises in flavor. The plum is attractive, not overwhelming, but present. This is a good combination of burley nuttiness and the complexity offered by a balanced blend of Virginias with qualities including depth, sweetness and a touch of tanginess. It doesn't bite.

While it is a very serviceable smoke and a head above many flakes out there, it will probably remain an occasional smoke for this smoker, a welcome change of pace. Nice to see a new flake of this quality appear!

A solid smoke , refreshing and satisfying, this virginia/burley flake is sure to win a following! It's a fine addition to the flakes currently on the market.

Recommended!
Age When Smoked: two weeks (just on the market)
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Dec 12, 2014 Medium Very Mild Mild to Medium Pleasant
Rattray - Wallace Flake.

These are dark flakes with a lot of small light flecks throughout. I note how a few others point out that their flakes hydration is too much but my flakes are of a superb amount. The smell coming from them has a detectable fruit aroma to it but it isn't a strong 'aromatic' one by any means. When I rub the flakes out I have to use a little extra pressure, they aren't ridiculously hard but the aren't the easiest to prepare.

The first good point with the smoking of this is getting it ignited, I often as not use my jet lighter for flake blends but Wallace Flake only needs a touch of my regular lighter. The flavour of Wallace Flake is very similar to Peterson University Flake, the Burley and Virginia both take an equal share of the taste with a very subtle plum addition in the background. The burn is a consistent one that gives off a medium temperature smoke that is of a construction that's not too thick nor thin and gives no bite. The nicotine amount suits me perfectly, I would say it's again the same as University Flake. The room note is quite good in the fact it isn't too much but I can't notice any plum in it really.

I was excited when I noticed this one as I adore University Flake and Wallace Flake has definitely met my expectations! To be succinct, if you like University' then you will enjoy this. Four stars.
Pipe Used: Comoys Elegance
PurchasedFrom: G.Q Tobaccos
Age When Smoked: New
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Aug 16, 2015 Medium Mild to Medium Medium Pleasant to Tolerable
Mostly dark flakes in a nifty presentation flat tin, said flakes being infinitely foldable, which is how I preferred it. Tin nose of rich tobacco with the topping being very noticeable. This is said to be Peterson's University Flake with a different blender. I always thought UF had a blueberry topping but this claims to be plum. Whatever... figuring out artificial flavorings is hardly a talent of mine.

Some interesting differences between this and UF. First of all, the flakes are purtier here whereas the UF flakes were pretty ragged. Second, this one seems to have less burley and more Virginia whereas UF was burleyburleyburley... and oh yeah, a little Virginia. Taste wise this was smoother but seemed to carry the plum flavoring longer thru the bowl. In other words, this is more heavily flavored. Which is ok, because I think the plum sauce is this one's selling point. You can find unflavored VaBurs all over but how many plum flavored ones are there? This was a sweet flake due to the apparent higher VA concentration as well as the more robust flavoring, which stayed with me thru the entire bowl. But it also had a nice underlying richness, if not as potent in the nicotine department as UF. As happens often, if this is supposed to be a match, another visit to the drawing board is in order. But on its own, it's a sweet flavored mostly VA flake that will appeal to those who like flavoring but prefer a choicer batch of leaf than the average goopy aromatic. A nice once in awhile smoke for me, and I would imagine a tin would last me a year! But well worth a shot if the thought of blueberry tobacco doesn't make you cringe.
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Aug 31, 2015 Medium Mild to Medium Mild to Medium Pleasant
I have been smoking University Flake on and off for years, ever since the old tin art and the old blender (Murray's ?).

Now, unless I bought a tin of the current production UF and Wallace Flake, and did a side by side, I could not tell you exactly if these are now the same blend or not.

First of all strength, nicotine, is less than the UF of old, of this I'm sure, but this is still a tobacco with underlying backbone and decent relaxation capability.

Second, Wallace Flake, or WF, is even smoother, slightly sweeter,and the top note a bit more persistent and more pleasing than my memory of UF. If I had to guess, I'd agree with the reviewer who thought there was more VA in WF than UF.

Either way this is a great semi-sweet smoke, utterly bite free, and I am very sensitive to various forms of bite from many blends.

Easy to rub out, and easy to smoke, as long as it isn't packed too tightly, as the rubbed out flake is still very dense and long lasting.

This is still the best blend to load in your pipe at the end of the day when you don't want any pipe related drama, as all the flavors here are rounded and smooth smooth smooth.

Age When Smoked: new
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Dec 04, 2014 Medium to Strong Mild Medium to Full Pleasant to Tolerable
Being a newbie returnee to pipe smoking perhaps precludes me from giving a qualified review of this tobacco, but here's my take.

I was steered towards this when another choice was unavailable. Its my first experience of a flake, but pleasing in the ease with which it rubbed out. I found it stronger than other tobaccos I've been using, but also very dependant on the pipe used. Some suggest filling the pipe by folding the flakes in a "Z" and pushing them down in the bowl - that method gave me the strongest smoke, no doubt the preference of some?

I found the nicotine hit a bit full on with an unfiltered small bowl pipe, but much more to my liking with a 9mm filter in my large bowl Zettervig, which smoothed the (to me) rough edge and, and enabled me to discern a mild though pleasing background note of plum.

I would perhaps revisit it but at present wouldn't hurry back in preference to say a black cavendish. To me this one isn't so much for newbies as seasoned smokers who like a bigger hitting flake. For that reason I won't allow my inexperience to get in the way of giving it a "fair" 3 out of 4.
Pipe Used: Milville mini, MM corn, Zettervig (filtered)
PurchasedFrom: Piperack, Newcastle, Staffs
Age When Smoked: new
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Jul 04, 2014 Mild to Medium Mild Mild Pleasant to Tolerable
Nice to find a new-ish flake out there. Tin note is hay like and very minute sweetness. The flakes are dense, moist and very dark. I find that the "plum cake" is very faint. This stuff smokes nice and cool in a small chambered pipe. Ash is pale grey. It is mellow and easily French inhaled and is subtle in its sweetness. A beautiful flake definitely worth a try.
Pipe Used: Peterson et al
PurchasedFrom: Jades Smokers Corner
Age When Smoked: New
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Aug 22, 2017 Mild to Medium Mild Medium Very Pleasant
This is a comparison of Wallace Flake (produced by K&K) and University Flake (formerly K&K, then Mac Baren and now produced by STG).

After my first tin of University Flake diddn't last very long, I hopped on my road bike and made a neat little journey to Peter Heinrichs Chateau Henri to stock up on it. I bought UF when I was looking for blends in the style of Peterson's 3Ps (Perfect Plug), and was very pleased by University Flake. Somehow they were run out of University Flake and deep inside myself I felt happy, because I wanted to compare UF to Wallace Flake anyways, kinda like fate. So I grabbed a tin of Wallace Flake and rode home, excited for what would await me.

I did read a lot of reviews about University vs. Wallace Flake in forehand and most people seemed to agree that Wallace is a tad sweeter and less nutty-earthy than University. Opening the (compared to UFs tin design) rather boring, yet classy designed tin (which is now round) of Wallace I was pleasantly surprised:

Wallace Flake looks exactly the same as University Flake. Just as UF the neat flake slices are sticking to eachother and are hard to separate. "Must be exactly the same weed" I thought, before I dipped my nose into the tin and noticed that Wallace Flake has a slightly different and more natural flavoring to it than UF.

Whilst UF flavoring is reminding me exactly of condoms (sounds very odd, I know, but its smells very plesant!) we have here in Germany and is rather artificially (yet pleasantly) somewhat plum-ish, Wallace Flakes flavoring actually smells of plums. It seems as if K&K has tweaked or changed the flavoring a bit - for good as I think! Wallace wins the "tin-note/flavoring battle".

Already on first light I noticed that Wallace Flake is more on the citrusy-sweet, Virginia-forward side, whilst University is more full-bodied, nutty-earthy and Burley-forward. Wallace Flake offers the said citrusy-sweet, grassy and hay-ish Virginia aromas and is underscored by the mildly nutty and molasses Burley. With UF it's just the opposite. I perceive Wallace's flavoring as more mild than the one of University. It offers sweet plums and some other (blue-?)berries, whilst UFs flavoring is more "dark" in character. Yet the flavoring is a bit more present in Walllace than in University. The "taste-battle" is clearly a draw to me. Both offer a very delightful smoke, Wallace being more "bright" and University more "dark" in character.

Wallace Flakes strenght is rather medium, almost close to mild, unlike University Flakes strenght, which I settled for as "medium to strong" (medium for experienced smoker, strong for new pipe smokers and/or pipe smokers who prefer mild blends.

I was hoping to identify one of the two as "much better", so I wouldn't have to keep a stock of both at hand - but after having smoked both I'm setting up two jars (which I only do for blends that I always keep in stock for my daily rotation), one for University and one for Wallace Flake, because personally I wouldn't wanna miss out on one of them. UF is more full-bodied, strong in Burley. WF is a tad more mellow-sweet, dominated by Virginias. Both are top-notch "old english style" blends, that are (besides Erinmore & 3Ps) unlike anything else on the market and I rank them very high in my "go-to" blends stash.

3-stars, as I prefer the University Flake incarnation!
Pipe Used: Clay Pipes / Various Briars
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Dec 08, 2017 Medium Mild Medium to Full Tolerable
Considered on its own, this is a very serviceable dark VaBur, with a topping that's between 'very mild' and 'mild', really just enough to make it interesting. The flakes are well-made and easy to tear into strips and fold (my preferred method when possible). Compared to University Flake, this tin at least was easier to light and seemed a bit sweeter without the topping being any more noticeable (at least to me) and a touch less N (but still a solid medium).
Pipe Used: briars, cobs, and meers
PurchasedFrom: Mars
Age When Smoked: 1 month after purchase
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Jan 12, 2015 Mild None Detected Very Mild Pleasant to Tolerable
This is in fact Peterson's University Flake under a new label. Rattrays produce a lot of Peterson stuff now according to (hopefully) the old recipes. I sincerely hope it's not gonna be "new masters, new rules" like what has happened so many blends in the past.
Pipe Used: Various
PurchasedFrom: Curiosity Hut
Age When Smoked: Unknown
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