John Patton Dark Horse

(3.11)
Virginia, 2 Burleys, Turkish, Oriental, Cigar Leaf and Perique produce a medium strength blend with a smooth, full range of flavors. The 'Dark Horse' blend is an adjustment of 'Soulmate's Kiss' in which Cigar Leaf replaces the Latakia. It is the newest John Patton blend.
Notes: Sold through 4noggins.com.

Details

Brand John Patton
Blended By John Patton / Rich Gottlieb
Manufactured By 4noggins
Blend Type Other
Contents Burley, Cigar Leaf, Oriental/Turkish, Perique, Virginia
Flavoring
Cut Coarse Cut
Packaging Bulk
Country United States
Production Currently available

Profile

Strength
Medium
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Extremely Mild -> Overwhelming
Flavoring
None Detected
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
None Detected -> Extra Strong
Room Note
Tolerable
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Unnoticeable -> Overwhelming
Taste
Medium to Full
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Extremely Mild (Flat) -> Overwhelming

Average Rating

3.11 / 4
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Jul 03, 2015 Medium None Detected Medium to Full Pleasant to Tolerable
Compared with my favorite John Patton's blend: Stormfront, Dark Horse has similar characteristics with some differences. They all share sweetness, cigar spiciness, burley nuttiness, but this has been added with oriental and perique, which bring some sourness and slightly fruity air. I think whoever love stormfront will appreciate Dark Horse.
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Apr 05, 2015 Medium to Strong None Detected Medium to Full Tolerable
This one was an easy buy for me, but I am not so sure on it right now. Had my first bowl earlier today, and it certainly lives up to its' name as an "other". Upon lighting, I just didnt like it. Super harsh, and burned super-hot. Let it go for a bit and kept at it but just got heat and cigarette type smoke. Then, I put the pipe down and walked away for a bit. When I returned and re-lit, it came to life. Honestly, the reviews that indicate that this is a mix of flavors and tastes are dead on. To me, it tasted like and smoked like a crushed cigar placed in my pipe. I kept after it and had some taste stops along the way that came through clearly. Cigar leaf, followed by burley, followed by a brief check-in at orientals. I dont see this being a regular go to, but a certain one for a shake-up from my norms. Worth adding to the rotation for certain.
Pipe Used: Peterson 107
PurchasedFrom: 4Noggins is the only option.
Age When Smoked: Jarred for about two weeks
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Mar 03, 2024 Medium None Detected Medium Tolerable
I've been trying cigar leaf blends lately and that is what led me to John Patton's Dark Horse. I'd also been looking to add Burley blends to my cellar so that it might be more well balanced. And, of course, Matches860....

This delivery came to me from 4noggins and upon opening the bag I was surprised by how mild the bag note was. I was definitely getting cigar but very mildly. The bag smelled heavily of Burley and spicy Oriental and Perique. A very subdued sweetness and a bit of Autumn baking spices.

This tobacco was dry, and bordered on too dry, but as I soon found out it lit on the initial match and didn't require any relight. Just burned straight through to a clean white ash. A very easy and well behaved smoke.

The nicotine is mild/medium. No bite, though I did take my time with it, and savored as I could the retro hale and really tried to pick this one apart. I think my palette is inexperienced, but I was able to find some mild sweetness and some pleasant spice. The cigar leaf and condiments are what grabbed my attention with the blend. The Burley and Virginia providing a strong foundation.

I recommend this one. And I love the idea of supporting lesser talked about blends and blenders like JP's. Sure, this blend gets some love on YT and the forums, but not as much as some of the more widely distributed and advertised blends.

Get some. Just get it in a jar ASAP as it comes ready to burn!
Pipe Used: Dublin nose warmer
PurchasedFrom: 4noggins
Age When Smoked: New
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Jan 31, 2023 Medium None Detected Full Tolerable to Strong
When I first received my shipment I divided into two jars, the first jar I consumed over six months, the second jar I let sit untouched for five years! So, I’ve been getting to know it again now over these past few weeks. It’s still a fairly rugged he-man kind of a blend even after five years of aging. If you like Bob Runowski blends like Haunted Bookshop, or if you smoke cigars regularly, you will like this. It has some spicy nuances that remind me of a dark Nicaraguan cigar. I remember from when it was fresh that I tried a tweak using 5% Sutliff Aged Maduro Cavendish and that added some needed cushion on the palate for me. I called that tweak “Black Stallion” and just that little nudge put it up to four stars for me. If it isn’t cushion you seek, but sweetness, you could always add a pinch of BCA, which everybody has laying around. I guess I’d call that version “Pony Rides,” LOL. If it’s even more earthiness you crave you could always add some dehydrated potato peel. Ok, enough joking around . . .

I have to wonder, reading some of the other reviews if Rich made some adjustments to either proportions or changes in suppliers, because either when fresh or when I evaluate it now after five years, this is certainly not a Turkish-forward blend with floral overtones as some have said. In fact, unless we’re talking Black Sea Sokhoum I don’t taste any Turkish/Oriental at all. For me the predominant character stems from earthy dark Burleys (not especially nutty) and cigar leaf (dark and spicy). Coming in third would be Perique, but not of the peppery or figgy raisiny type, more of the musty earthy type. I also get some salty pan-scorched butter (that possibly from toasted Turkish leaf). I agree with one reviewer who said that the retrohale was like oak leaves in Autumn, but that was more so when fresh, not so much now that it has mellowed with age.

I much prefer Storm Front, but this deserves three stars for its distinctiveness and for those times when you want something a little more rugged. I find it pairs nicely with a strong dry red wine like Italian Aglianico.
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Feb 19, 2017 Mild to Medium None Detected Medium Tolerable
Here's a good burley blend that really satisfies. Burley at the top of the pyramid of flavors, followed by the Turkish and oriental. The Virginia is unnoticeable, but the perique seems to hold it all on the darker side. A very tasty and rather cigarette style flavor. Lights easy, burns to the bottom and easy to smoke all day.
Pipe Used: Ashton
PurchasedFrom: 4noggins.
Age When Smoked: New
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Apr 10, 2015 Medium None Detected Medium to Full Tolerable
A tobacco that is full of flavors, earthy, spicy with a slight sweetness and sourness. If a bit on the dry side, it smokes without a glitch and the taste is that of a full bodied cigar in a pipe smoking way. Cigar leaf mixtures are hard to balance but this one is a winner. Works nicely on a colder day or after a meal.

Virginia lover
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Apr 03, 2015 Medium to Strong None Detected Medium to Full Pleasant to Tolerable
Oh My! I am smoking a bowl of this blend and I have to say it's excellent!!! Kudos to John Patton for creating one of the most complex and smooth cigar blends ever.

I have tried several of his blends and this has to be one of my Favorite Patton Blends.

For those Pipe Smokers who like a little cigar leaf in their blends - this is the one to try!!!
Pipe Used: Don Warren Lovat
PurchasedFrom: 4 Noggins
Age When Smoked: New
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Sep 11, 2013 Mild Mild Mild Tolerable to Strong
I had to throw this bag of "pipe" tobacco away it was so bad.

Tasted like smoking some cheap cigarette tobacco only from my pipe.

I could not tolerate more than a single bowl at a time, and found myself forcing it.....so literally threw the bag away.
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