J. F. Germain & Son Balkan Sobranie

(3.27)
Balkan Sobranie Original Smoking Mixture is one of the most legendary Latakia-based blends in history. Dating back to around the 1920s, this is a combination of wonderful Virginias, excellent Orientals and enough Latakia for a robust and flavorful mixture. The balance of tobaccos gives the smoker a sweet and smoky experience, with a finish unlike anything else. The aroma is so bright that it has an incense-like scent that will thrill the senses. Since the Original has gone through a number of iterations over the years, it’s impossible to say if it will remind you of the one you smoked years ago, but it’s a terrific smoke in its own right.
Notes: IMPORTANT NOTE: This is the re-release version of Balkan Sobranie. If you are reviewing the older version, please see the entry under "Sobranie of London", here: http://www.tobaccoreviews.com/blend/1525/sobranie-of-london-the-balkan-sobranie

Details

Brand J. F. Germain & Son
Blended By J.F. Germain & Son
Manufactured By J.F. Germain & Son
Blend Type Balkan
Contents Latakia, Oriental/Turkish, Virginia
Flavoring
Cut Ribbon
Packaging 50 grams tin
Country United Kingdom
Production Re-release

Profile

Strength
Medium
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Extremely Mild -> Overwhelming
Flavoring
None Detected
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
None Detected -> Extra Strong
Room Note
Pleasant to Tolerable
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Unnoticeable -> Overwhelming
Taste
Medium
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Extremely Mild (Flat) -> Overwhelming

Average Rating

3.27 / 4
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Jan 01, 2012 Mild to Medium Extremely Mild Extremely Mild (Flat) Pleasant to Tolerable
Fellow pipe smokers, it is with some trepidation I write this review, knowing all-the-while hundreds if not thousands flock to this site to see if another pipe smoking colleague has posted his/her comments on the new Sobranie.

Without further ado here's mine for it is worth, knowing very well tastes vary, and in many cases significantly from each other . Germain's Sobranie is a mixture of bright, tan, dark and black leaves in a somewhat shag over ribbon cut. When I leveraged open the cover I stuck my nose very near the lid in an attempt to get a woof of the fragrance however, surprisingly, I didn't get much of anything in the way of an aroma. The tobacco once exposed completely was damp to the touch and when pinched together did not unfold so drying time was needed. I plucked out a couple of grams and placed it in a tin bowl for fifteen minutes. I did the pinch test again and it seemed good to go. I always use my Lorenzetti bent billard to test drive a new tobacco as it has a track record for getting the very best out of a blend. False light, not much of any taste. Tamp and second light gets the pipe going. I'm getting the unmistakable Germain Virginia taste, a little Latakia, some oriental and a faint but distinguished casing of some sort. First half of the bowl, very flat and unexciting. Second half same with a slightly stronger oriental presence. The finish was rather hot and soggy.

Okay, without writing a short story here, I'll sum up the four days that followed my maiden voyage with Sobranie by telling you I sampled it in several different pipes, dgt'ed it for 30 minutes, one hour, two hours and finally four hours. I aired it for 30 minute intervals up to three hours as well. I also sipped different beverages with the smoke including water, dark beer, bourbon and coffee. The results were the same no matter what I did to this mixture to make it work for me.

Conclusion: Germain's Sobranie, for me, is a very flat, uneventful, mild to medium nicotine strength tobacco. If this is the original Sobranie of yesteryear and the best of the best during that time I think we should count ourselves extremely fortunate to have great master blenders as; Pease, Tarler, Oulette, Peritti etc in the 21st century.

I have to tell you though, I believe there is a blend today that is the smitten image of the Sobranie of two, three decades ago. I am referring to Gawith & Hoggarth's Balkan Mixture. I validate this opinion from reading the reviews of BM here on this site and in other locations as well. G&H, upon the disappearance of Sobranie responded with BM and many a British pipester as well as American pipemen swear BM is an exceedingly close approximation to the famous Sobranie long since gone. I have been smoking Balkan Mixture for about two months now and it is an absolutely amazing old world heavy weight Balkan tobacco.
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Mar 26, 2022 Medium None Detected Medium to Full Pleasant
J F Germains Balkan Sobranie- Plenty of smoky cedar woody Latakia. The Oriental- Turkish tobaccos are spicy and buttery and herbal and sour and quite savory. And well represented in this blend. There is some sweetness and citrus from Virginia. A true Balkan blend for sure . I really like an Oriental forward blend and this is one . A little similar to SOTE but w/ more Oriental leaf . This is spicy and buttery like jC Smyrna. I like this and will probably buy a few tins for the cellar if I come across it again . 4
Age When Smoked: 1 yr
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Mar 04, 2021 Medium None Detected Medium Pleasant
Listen, i grew up around pipe smokers and probably heard the name Balkan Sobranie thousands of times. While I didn’t grow up in the day the original was sold doesn’t mean this loses its mystique. It’s still a fairly hard blend to find and for me it’s worth the search. I literally buy it every time I find it therefore always having it in my stock. It’s a brilliant blend and quite tasty! Beautiful blend and a nice firm smoke and peat aroma up front. Some real earthy nuttiness pairs great with the smoky character of the Latakia. The orientals provide some sour notes that have a soft fruitiness in the backdrop. Earthy notes continue with some very nice yet bold spices. This is mouthwatering.. I mean when I want a bowl of the Balkan Sobranie blended by the fine folks at Germain, I can almost taste it before I ever even break it out of my stock. It’s arguably my absolute favorite pipe tobacco being made. I would recommend this to anyone and especially those fond of Balkan blends. Maybe not quite as sweet as some balkans, but has some sticky sweetness in the backbone for certain. Very well balanced blend that has a superb room note in my book. Nothings changed. This is my favorite. Period.
Pipe Used: Dunhill
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Nov 27, 2020 Medium None Detected Mild to Medium Tolerable to Strong
I found this blend a bit disappointing, given the history and hype.

Mechanically, the blend is very sound: packs easily (although the ribbons are on the long side, which can get a little sloppy), lights and stays lit well. Minimal moisture at the end of the bowl, and no chance of tongue bite.

The latakia is dominant, but the orientals are detectable (I really can't detect the virginias, but I'm still a relative novice). The tin was not especially well blended, so I did a fair bit of "stirring" before smoking, but I still noticed different components taking a minor lead role throughout. However, overall, I found the flavor to be a little flat. Occasionally, I would get a spicy twinge, which seemed more like a burley spice (not a perique spiciness). Also, the finish was incredibly dry, which was probably the most intriguing aspect of the blend. As I said, I couldn't really detect the virginia sweetness at all.

Overall, I'm glad I've tried this, but I will stick to more compelling modern blends. But this is sufficiently "different" from other Balkans that I've tried (White Knight, Magnum Opus, Maltese Falcon) that it is well worth giving a try if you ever see it on a shelf at your local B&M. But I wouldn't put it on my bucket list.
Pipe Used: Falcon with a Briar Hyperbole
PurchasedFrom: B&M
Age When Smoked: 6 months
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Jan 25, 2020 Mild to Medium None Detected Mild to Medium Unnoticeable
Fresh tin, less than two months on it. Slightly moist in the tin, the ultra thin, almost shag ribbon cut is easy to load, but needs care to not overpack. Easily lit. Oriental forward with the effervescence arising right off the top. Dry overall presentation. Mildly sweet, in an incense in a cathedral type way. Faint notes of citrus. The lat is less of a player than one might expect. Rougher notes of leather, campfire, cedar, sandalwood, and a bit of resinous pine. Slightly acrid if pushed even slightly, sometimes even when not pushed at all. Backing down the cadence brings the citrus forward along with the incense. A tiny dose, almost imperceptible, of the Germain fermented apricot VA. Sour orange rind flavor pushing forward at mid bowl which appears to stay for the remainder of the smoke. Lightly buttery at times, it’s too inconsistent to be considered a serious player in the profile. Consistently get an acidic note at the top of the throat about 3/4s of the way through the bowl; perhaps something inherent in the leaf that just takes time to build on itself. Gets ashy at the heel, but you’re left with an ultra fine grey ash.

The tin presentation is fine; your normal round coin pop seal. The quality of leaf is obviously top shelf, as one would expect from Germain. Burn is good; the bowls smoked cool to the heel on a single light. I found the profile to be consistent from bowl to bowl, which is a good and bad thing. The repeatability on this blend is lacking in its current state. I had to force myself to smoke subsequent bowls. There was no joy or anticipation in smoking this again.

This is a Not Recommended blend as it currently stands. However, I can see the potential in this blend. If it can bring the buttery nature forward, along with some sweetness and a deeper incense while melding the profile, I think this could be a really nice blend. The pieces are there, they just aren’t developed enough.

Pipe Used: Sav 106
Age When Smoked: Fresh
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Aug 17, 2019 Mild Extremely Mild Full Tolerable
In China, the price of 1 tin is $60. This is the Rolls Royce in the tobacco. The price is so.

Fortunately, no disappointment. It is easy to burn, full of smoke, cool taste, wonderful smell.

Not looking at the price is perfect.

I can smoke all day, but not enough money.
Pipe Used: BOOO W03
Age When Smoked: 4 years old in tin
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Mar 03, 2019 Mild to Medium None Detected Mild Tolerable
A comparison of the Gallaher version of twenty years ago... I deemed the older BSOM excellent... the very best Balkan blend ever & I'm not a big Latakia fan but combined with Yenidje & the other varietals it facilitated the blend's sweet, creamy, smoky flavor. Sampled from a fairly fresh 50g pouch of the Gallaher version that was eight years old when purchased back in 2010. It gets a four star rating.

The BSOM made you reach for that sweet, elusive flavor with each draw. After a few puffs, the tobacco flavors begin to meld & it just keeps getting better & better until the very end. The perfect pipe tobacco in every respect... the Holy Grail, as it were. It had a sweet & sometimes salty flavor when that certain taste receptor was hit & had an enticing aroma. Todays version... I can take it or leave it. It is just simply lacking most of the flavoring of the original & I didn't like it very much. Not nearly as much sweetness. Close but no cigar.

Hard to believe some pipers pay as much as $50.00 for a $10.00 tin of tobacco but that's just my personal opinion... I'm doubtful I'd even pay a saw-buck as I've discovered something much closer to the BSOM at a fraction of the cost. Even my own, non aged blend with Syrian &/or Cyprian Latakia is much better than this.
Pipe Used: Peterson Deluxe 9S & 11S
PurchasedFrom: Smoking Pipes
Age When Smoked: fresh Tin
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Dec 03, 2018 Medium None Detected Medium to Full Pleasant
I've been lucky enough to have the original mixture and this re-release is darn close, if not spot on. It smells delightful in the tin and you will immediately recognize it's Balkan aroma when you pop the top. The first light gives me that same delicious wave of flavor that I remember from the original. As you continue to puff the quality of the leaf shines through all the way to the bottom. Absolutely delicious.
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Oct 31, 2017 Medium None Detected Medium to Full Pleasant to Tolerable
While I have never had the previous incarnations, I find this to be another J.F. Germain home run. This is a fine blend where the Latakia's and Orientals blend together an an interesting way. The flavors come together to provide a malted milk ball kind of flavor, sweet, smoky the orientals give me a "fizz" when exhaled through the nose. Hard to explain. This smokes consistently from first light to bottom of the bowl without much flavor change. The interplay of the tobacco's create a complex smoke. I have a hard time finding the Virginia's in flavor other than to say it provides the sweetness to the smoke. The orientals provide the woody spicy flavor and the Latakia its own smoky sweetness. A legend in its own time. Now it they would just make an 8 oz tin...
Pipe Used: Briar, meerschaum and cobs
PurchasedFrom: B&M
Age When Smoked: 1 year
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Oct 25, 2017 Medium None Detected Medium Tolerable to Strong
This one just didn't hit the mark for me. This review is based on the original re-release from several years back. These are the notes that I took. It is been several years since I've smoked this, and so it may or may not be reflective of the current product. I remember being fairly disappointed by this tobacco. With all of the storied history, this reminded me of a slightly muddier dustier version of Balkan Sasieni. Sasieni has a slightly mellower Latakia component. The Sobranie, however, takes on a darker, muddier, almost dusty tone at times. The VA is nothing special and the orientals get somewhat trampled in the mix. All in all this is reasonable as a middle of the road Balkan style blend.
Pipe Used: Genod meerschaum lined
PurchasedFrom: Iwan ries
Age When Smoked: 1 year
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