Mac Baren Presbyterian Mixture

(3.20)
Mellow blend of US Virginia tobaccos and high quality Macedonian grades-exclusive, aristocratic pipe mixture.
Notes: This fine tobacco originally had no name. It was blended before the first World War especially for the Very Rev. Dr. John White, sometime minister of the Barony Kirk in Glasgow and Moderator of the General Assembly in Scotland in 1929. He introduced it to Stanley Baldwin, later Earl Baldwin, Prime Minister in 1923, 1924 and 1935. He liked it so much that regular supplies were sent down to him and it was he who suggested that it be called "Presbyterian Mixture". As there continues to be controversy over the question of whether Presbyterian Mixture contains latakia, the following quote from page six of the blender's 2008 catalogue should leave the matter settled: "Extraordinarily soft blend of finest US Virginia grades and a number of selected latakia leaf tips. Ideal mixture also for beginners with English tobaccos." Originally blended for mass market by William P. Solomon, whose recipe it still follows. The "International" version is called "Melange". Currently made by Mac Baren.

Details

Brand Mac Baren
Blended By Planta
Manufactured By Mac Baren
Blend Type English
Contents Latakia, Oriental/Turkish, Virginia
Flavoring
Cut Coarse Cut
Packaging 50 grams tin
Country Denmark
Production Re-release

Profile

Strength
Medium
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Extremely Mild -> Overwhelming
Flavoring
None Detected
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
None Detected -> Extra Strong
Room Note
Pleasant to Tolerable
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Unnoticeable -> Overwhelming
Taste
Medium
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Extremely Mild (Flat) -> Overwhelming

Average Rating

3.20 / 4
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Jan 29, 2002 Mild to Medium None Detected Medium to Full Tolerable
This venerable old tobacco was first blended prior to World War I and is now manufactured in Germany for William P. Solomon of London, Presbyterian is not cased (flavoured) and consists of Virginias, Orientals and Latakia in good measure. It is available in a 50g round tin.

Sight, Touch & Aroma: Upon opening the tin. Presbyterian offered up the dusty, faintly sweet and smoky aroma of horse hide that is indicative of Latakia and Oriental tobaccos. The tobacco is a course shag that is medium brown and black in colour. It is moist to the touch but not wet or sticky.

Preparation & Smoking: Out of can, Presbyterian packs very well in two or three lifts but can smoke erratically. You can fix this on the next bowl by taking a small amount of tobacco out of the tin and airing it 5-10 minutes before packing it in your bowl. This works splendidly and only two matches are required to set-up a durable burn. This mixture also requires a few tamps before bowl?s end to complete the burn.

Flavours: A very pleasant tobacco with a nutty, slightly dusty and leathery taste of Orientals and Latakia. There is a faint sweetness that changes to a slight sourness that is not at all unpleasant. This blend has a full taste but is very mellow and would seem incapable of tongue-bite unless one smokes it wildly.

Room Note: There is a very brief, incense-like top note that peaks out occasionally from the baseline note of smoked leather and wood. Although my non-smoking but tolerant wife did not find the fragrance one to rave about, she thought the smoke was tolerable in small quantities ? a pretty typical reaction to the room note of mild English mixtures.

Economics: At $15 CDN for 50g, Presbyterian is not a cheap tobacco; and as its burn rate is only average, it is not a very economic smoke. But in relation to English mixtures, it represents an average value.

Last Word: Economic or not, Presbyterian has been one of my favourite all-day tobaccos for some time. Not only for what it does, but for what it doesn?t do ? namely bite your tongue or burn your palate. If you want to try an English mixture but are afraid of their strength, give this one a spin. You won?t go far wrong. I rate Presbyterian at 4 stars out of 5.

©Copyright, Rivendel Books 2001 ®
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Dec 05, 2001 Strong None Detected Full Tolerable to Strong
This is a strong tobacco for me. The tin aroma is "different". I have nothing to even compare it to. It packed well and lit very easily. The first taste was over whelming, almost enough to make me stop. Luckily I was in a car for the first tasting and I had no choice but to keep on tasting. And I am glad I did!

The flavours really picked up and the intensity seems to ease off a bit. There is something sweet in the mix but I can't tell what it is just yet. There is also a slight sourness to the tin.

Incredible and I will deffinitely keep this one on hand.
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Oct 24, 2001 Medium Extremely Mild Medium to Full Tolerable to Strong
Though this is probably one of those blends initially purchased because of its interesting name and history, it is also remarkably palatable. Though I am not usually too excited about oriental/Virginia blends, I do enjoy this one on occasion.

It is a visually unremarkable though reasonably attractive blend of mottled browns and blacks from the stoved Virginias and lighter colors from the Macedonian oriental tobaccos. The tin nose is eminently pleasant and sufficiently sweet to suggest the possibility of a slight top note of something fruity?though I can neither taste it in the smoke nor put my finger on exactly what the aroma suggests. The orientals as well as the rich dark Virginias are evident in the tin aroma also. If the smoking quality could be judged based solely on the tin aroma, it would be fantastic.

Indeed, the smoking quality and flavor is as good as one would have suspected. I don't notice any top flavoring during the smoke and I'm not really sure there is one at this point. The Virginias are pleasantly balanced-- slightly sweet and very well rounded. The Orientals do help to balance the blend and give it a fullness that I don't think it would have otherwise.

Presbyterian burns cleanly down to a fine white/grey ash. On the whole, it is a very pleasant smoke, but there is nothing here to render this an all the time blend for me; however, I'll definitely come back to it from time to time.
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Dec 04, 2023 Mild to Medium None Detected Medium to Full Tolerable
It is a solid English blend that has enough variety in the blend to keep it interesting. Opening the tin, you'll be greeted by the musky smell of what could be latakia. I don't smoke English enough to differentiate the blends. I know I like this blend and keep returning to it.
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Oct 28, 2023 Mild to Medium None Detected Medium Pleasant to Tolerable
I bought this mix on the recommendation of some friends. As a good lover of English blends (and history) I did not hesitate for a second to purchase a can. Don't expect a hit from any tobacco that makes up this blend, everything blends together and marries perfectly with each other. The quality virginias, the spicy and tasty orientals, the latakia stops by from time to time to say: hello, I'm the Presbyterian blend. It has become my favorite blend of this year 2023 and, for sure, it will be with me for a few more years.

Smoking this blend takes you directly to the monastery featured in the design. Fill the room with incense and aromas as if you were in 1929 and the Reverend Dr. John White gives you a little of this mixture. Maybe I am blinded by the love of this blend but believe me, you must try this blend.

E.S
Pipe Used: Vauen
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May 24, 2023 Mild None Detected Mild Tolerable
This is a tobacco which I never got round to trying when it was readily available in the UK, and seeing the rave reviews, I thought I had missed something good. I'm a fan of English mixtures with a predominantly Oriental component, so this seemed likely to be to my taste. Having obtained a tin, I'm not sure what all the fuss is about, and won't be going out of my way to get more.

The tobacco is prepared as a very uneven and mostly very wide cut ribbon, with some parts very finely cut. I find this quite strange, I can't think of anything else I've had quite like it in terms of cut. It is predominantly bright and brown, with a smattering of black leaf. It was nicely on the dry side of perfect when I opened the tin. The tin aroma is yeasty, with smoke, digestive biscuit, malt, and a hint of icing sugar coming through.

I found it often quite hard work to light, and it gives a dry dry woody character at the match. Cedar wood and hay like Virginia seems to be the predominant flavour, with a subtle smokiness of latakia. Slight hint of icing sugar sweetness comes through at times. Sometimes a hint of sour from the Orientals. Generally the flavour is quite dry and astringent, with occasional herbal flavours coming through in the latter half of the bowl. I've also noticed a cigar like note at times, akin to a cheap cigar such as a Hamlet. The room aroma is rather dusty and stale, and I don't think anyone particularly appreciated it.

My impression is that this is a predominantly Virginia mixture, with woody tasting Orientals second in their contribution, and Latakia very much a background seasoning.

I've found at times that it goes out and needs relights, but conversely, it is fast burning and a bowl of it does not last long at all. It's a kind of mild blend suited to smoking in warm weather, but I'm just not that keen on it myself and for me, there are numerous much better mixtures which fit this mild English bill, such as Early Morning Pipe or Wingfield Mixture.
Pipe Used: Briars, meers, calabash
Age When Smoked: New
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Jan 17, 2022 Mild to Medium Very Mild Medium Pleasant
Is it brand loyalty or the fact that there are already so many OK to good Latakia based mixtures out there that this offering couldn't convince me? Don't get me wrong - I do like no fuss everyday mixtures and am no opponent of a less complex and somewhat more straightforward flavor profile. Yet this one was just a tad too "boring", as if the blender didn't even want to try or if he was working with mediocre raw material. I am not revulsed by the actual smoking experience, I mean I have finished the tin and all. 2/4 stars.
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Apr 26, 2021 Medium None Detected Medium Pleasant
Coincido con los que dicen que está es una de las mejores mezclas inglesas/oriental. Fue una de las primeras que fumé y seguramente será la última jajaja. Tengo varias que me gustan como la Standard, accountants, bankers y skiff, pero quiera o no quiera siempre las confronto con presbiteriana. Para mí tiene el balance perfecto entre todos sus componentes. Es una mezcla fácil de fumar y disfrutar. Sin grandilocuencias pero con gran personalidad. Nada sobra, nada falta.
Pipe Used: Rigoletto
PurchasedFrom: 2020
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Apr 04, 2019 Extremely Mild None Detected Extremely Mild (Flat) Strong
From this day forward, I'll keep my reviews short & simple. Presbyterian Mixture, 'for me" was abhorrent. One of the worst tobaccos I've ever sampled. Most awful mixture of approximately 100 samples to date.
Pipe Used: Cavicchi, D. S. Huber
PurchasedFrom: Smoking Pipes
Age When Smoked: Fresh Tin
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Mar 04, 2019 Very Mild None Detected Extremely Mild (Flat) Strong
After reading all the reviews on Presbyterian Mixture I felt compelled to see for myself what "some" of the hype was about since the majority of users rated it fairly high. I finally broke down & purchased a tin. I concur with those who claimed it had some bite to it which put my tongue in a sling for an extended period! Whether it contains Latakia or some specially treated Virginia concoction is academic. What I'm always looking for in a good blend is an appealing flavor with some punch & I found very few redeeming or alluring qualities in this mixture. I noticed one reviewer compared it to the BSOM & I pondered... where is he from & what has he been smoking besides the Presbyterian Mixture? Myself?... I wouldn't even give this one away for fear of reprisal.

I found it to be lacking in flavor, smoke volume, aroma & it was really wimpy in the Vitamin N department. I seldom trash a mixture without trying to blend it with something to "fix" it. However, after only one bowl I instantly knew this was unredeemable & it quickly ended up being hauled off with the rest of the garbage because I was afraid it might possibly end up in my coffin. I had no desire to go for bowl number two as I deemed it horrid, an abomination & appalling that Planta would even claim this tobacco! I've grown & smoked tobacco that wasn't all that good but still, better than this. Honestly... I thought it was the worst tobacco I've ever sampled in my life & the only one I've ever given a sole mark. But that's just me & I'm glad that many find it tasty & satisfying but obviously, it certainly isn't my cup of tea.

I found the room note to be objectionable & it smoked the same from start to finish & had an extremely fast burning rate... a full bowl doesn't last very long. Rather than recommend, or "praise" Presbyterian Mixture, I advise one to try it at their own discretion. You might find a tin for a ten & like me, you might have mixed emotions about your possible, wasteful expenditure. Did I end up with a tin of leftover garbage that was scooped from a dirty floor with a pooper scooper from a honey wagon? Would I purchase another tin? No but we're all of differing DNA with varying taste receptors, so, as to how one smokes any type of pipe, his/her taste preferences, "shaken or stirred" & considered quality & value of any blend, I respect their views & opinions...
Pipe Used: D. S. Huber Half Bent Dublin
PurchasedFrom: Smoking Pipes
Age When Smoked: Fresh Tin
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