John Cotton John Cotton's Double Pressed Virginia
(3.06)
From P&C's website: A blend of sweet Virginias is first pressed and then sliced into a flake. It's then tumbled into a ribbon, allowed to breathe and put back into the mold to be pressed again into a crumble cake. This darkens the leaf, gives it a deeper, richer flavor, and takes much of the "edge" off the blend. Finally, there's a Virginia tobacco that just about anyone can enjoy - John Cotton's Double Pressed Virginia.
John Cotton's Double Pressed Virginia was the winner of the 2019 Chicago Bowl.
Details
Brand | John Cotton |
Blended By | Russ Ouellette |
Manufactured By | Sutliff Tobacco Company |
Blend Type | Straight Virginia |
Contents | Virginia |
Flavoring | |
Cut | Krumble Kake |
Packaging | 50 grams tin |
Country | United States |
Production | Currently available |
Profile
Strength
Mild to Medium
Extremely Mild -> Overwhelming
Flavoring
None Detected
None Detected -> Extra Strong
Room Note
Pleasant
Unnoticeable -> Overwhelming
Taste
Mild to Medium
Extremely Mild (Flat) -> Overwhelming
Average Rating
3.06 / 4
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Reviews
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Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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| Sep 04, 2019 | Mild to Medium | None Detected | Mild to Medium | Pleasant |
John Cotton - John Cotton's Double Pressed Virginia.
The kake arrives as one piece, and sits on the precipice of being a plug. It doesn't require a knife or coffee grinder, but don't expect something as easy to rub as, say, Cornell and Diehl's Black Frigate. This requires a more pertinacious preparation! The smell from it isn't too sweet or ambrosial, but quite mellow. My hydration was good right away.
Make no mistake, the smoke's high quality. The flavour incorporates many Virginia nuances, but isn't just a tart, or grassy, smoke. The overriding taste is quite mild, and very laid back; don't expect a blast of zest! For the initial quarter I notice more of a hay-like note, which gets replaced by a fruity touch as the bowl burns. But, again, this fruity touch doesn't monopolize the flavour; it embellishes, without turning it too tangy or sweet. The burn's exemplary: slow, cool, no hassle with maintenance. And, it generates a bite-free smoke.
Nicotine: quite mild. Room-note: I like it.
Double Pressed Virginia? A steadfast four stars:
Highly recommended.
The kake arrives as one piece, and sits on the precipice of being a plug. It doesn't require a knife or coffee grinder, but don't expect something as easy to rub as, say, Cornell and Diehl's Black Frigate. This requires a more pertinacious preparation! The smell from it isn't too sweet or ambrosial, but quite mellow. My hydration was good right away.
Make no mistake, the smoke's high quality. The flavour incorporates many Virginia nuances, but isn't just a tart, or grassy, smoke. The overriding taste is quite mild, and very laid back; don't expect a blast of zest! For the initial quarter I notice more of a hay-like note, which gets replaced by a fruity touch as the bowl burns. But, again, this fruity touch doesn't monopolize the flavour; it embellishes, without turning it too tangy or sweet. The burn's exemplary: slow, cool, no hassle with maintenance. And, it generates a bite-free smoke.
Nicotine: quite mild. Room-note: I like it.
Double Pressed Virginia? A steadfast four stars:
Highly recommended.
Pipe Used:
Peterson Summertime XL02
PurchasedFrom:
Cup O' Joes
Age When Smoked:
2 months
Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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| Jul 25, 2019 | Medium | None Detected | Medium | Pleasant |
Im a bit surprised that veteran reviewers here don't give this the deserved four stars. Its among the best pure virginias out there today. Since mcclelland closed its hard to find high quality pure viriginia. This is it.
That said, Russ Oullette and Sutliff are out of their minds asking this price for a tin. Its crazy and I personally won't pay it. Which makes me sad.
By the way, Sutliff makes a perfectly good..in fact very good...red virginia crumble cake for 30% less. Go there.
That said, Russ Oullette and Sutliff are out of their minds asking this price for a tin. Its crazy and I personally won't pay it. Which makes me sad.
By the way, Sutliff makes a perfectly good..in fact very good...red virginia crumble cake for 30% less. Go there.
PurchasedFrom:
cup o joes
Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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| May 16, 2022 | Medium | None Detected | Mild to Medium | Pleasant to Tolerable |
I bought a few tins of this a while back just knowing I would love it. Cracked a fresh tin, fired it up and hated it. I placed the remaining tins in my old wooden ammo box and forgot about them. Thirteen months later I pulled one out and gave it another try. I love it! The fresh tin had a raw, green flavor. Kind of like some type of fruit that's not quite ripe and sour too boot. The aged tins have smoothed out and present a dark stewd fruit flavor with no rough edges and a hint of natural sweetness. Excellent with a hot black coffee! I highly recommend this to Virginia smokers but this has to have a bit of age on it to be at its best.
Pipe Used:
Various
PurchasedFrom:
Smokingpipes.com
Age When Smoked:
13 months
Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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| Jan 19, 2023 | Mild to Medium | None Detected | Medium | Pleasant |
Tin note of fermented vegetation, sugar, and spices. Tobacco is a yellowish brown and tan speckled Krumble Kake. The 1/2-inch thick Kake has a good moisture content, some may prefer to dry it. Kake breaks and rubs out easily. Burns slow with a few relights. The strength is mild to medium and nic is mild. No flavoring detected. Taste is medium and very consistent, with notes of leather, spices, wood, sweet grass, floral, bread, earth, tangy citrus, sugar, citrus peel, fermented vegetation, mildly spicy/acidic, mild sour lemon, a ripe dark fruity background note, and a moderately peppery retro. Room note is pleasant, and aftertaste is great.
Pipe Used:
Peterson Bard Rusticated 221 Fishtail
Age When Smoked:
2 years
Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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| Oct 25, 2020 | Mild to Medium | None Detected | Medium | Pleasant |
I have to say as tins get more and more ugly beurocratic labels on them it really detracts from good tin art. These John Cotton blends come in really nice tins. I'm really new to straight Virginia's, and I think Capstan Blue is the only one I've had so far of the genre. I have to say that as I've smoked this, this week it gives me a really nice impression.
When I opened my tin for the first time I saw two very nicely pressed cakes of Virginia tobacco. Rubbing these cakes out is a very satisfying experience, they don't fall apart like some of the C&D cakes do. The rubbed out cake actually looks like a rubbed out flake due to the double pressing. The tin note on this one is fermented hay which is oddly a little dark fruit like, with a little citrus. It loads very easily and I don't really have a hard time getting it lit. I find it has a slow burn, and may need a few more than average relights. The smell is sweet and very pleasant.
Let's get down to taste. I'm going to assume the Virginia in this is Red Virginia. It's not the citrusy sweet I got from the majority of the Capstan. I taste a lot of dark fruit, but because of the fermentation it is really well rounded and mellow. There is some hay and citrus in the background. There is a lot of volume to the smoke and it comes in nice white clouds. It's hard to get this one hot, you really need to try and push it. If this is what I can look forward to in trying new Virginia's I am definitely going to pick a few more up. The taste in this blend is a medium, and the strength is medium with just a hair to the mild side.
This blend just goes to show that simplicity sometimes wins the day. I would happily buy a couple more tins of this and put them in the cellar. This is a strong win for me.
When I opened my tin for the first time I saw two very nicely pressed cakes of Virginia tobacco. Rubbing these cakes out is a very satisfying experience, they don't fall apart like some of the C&D cakes do. The rubbed out cake actually looks like a rubbed out flake due to the double pressing. The tin note on this one is fermented hay which is oddly a little dark fruit like, with a little citrus. It loads very easily and I don't really have a hard time getting it lit. I find it has a slow burn, and may need a few more than average relights. The smell is sweet and very pleasant.
Let's get down to taste. I'm going to assume the Virginia in this is Red Virginia. It's not the citrusy sweet I got from the majority of the Capstan. I taste a lot of dark fruit, but because of the fermentation it is really well rounded and mellow. There is some hay and citrus in the background. There is a lot of volume to the smoke and it comes in nice white clouds. It's hard to get this one hot, you really need to try and push it. If this is what I can look forward to in trying new Virginia's I am definitely going to pick a few more up. The taste in this blend is a medium, and the strength is medium with just a hair to the mild side.
This blend just goes to show that simplicity sometimes wins the day. I would happily buy a couple more tins of this and put them in the cellar. This is a strong win for me.
Pipe Used:
Kaywoodie Birkshire Large Billiard
Age When Smoked:
New
Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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| Aug 20, 2020 | Medium | None Detected | Medium to Full | Tolerable |
This blend strikes me as complex and smooth providing the full spectrum of Virginia flavors in fairly composed balance with the lemony citrus and spice being the most prevalent character. Smooth with a nice spice, good body, and some oomph. Builds as you smoke it down the bowl but the flavors remain consistent. Burns easy and clean to a white ash. Quite delicious for the experienced Virginia smoker.
Pipe Used:
Chacom Reverse Calabash
Age When Smoked:
~1yr
Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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| Sep 19, 2019 | Mild to Medium | None Detected | Mild to Medium | Pleasant to Tolerable |
Although it appears as a plug when the tin is popped, it beaks up easily for packing and has an ideal moisture content; smokes smoothly without relights or condensation; no bite from start to finish
Pipe Used:
Estella billiard; Montbatten bent billiard
PurchasedFrom:
pipes & cigars.com
Age When Smoked:
unknown
Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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| Nov 21, 2023 | Medium | None Detected | Medium | Pleasant |
Bravo: It is so good to see a blender showing intelligent restraint making a VA product for those who love unadulterated pure VA leaf without molasses, vinegar, ketchup and other such atrocities. Nicely ripened, it shows some natural fruit and sweetness, smokes with full flavor, smooth and just nice. After even a few days in a jar, the sweetness and fruit flavors are showing more and more. The will age well. The cakes is fairly dry, crumbles apart easy and burns down with a consistent pure and pleasant VA flavor. Love it! Will buy more.
Pipe Used:
Pete 230
PurchasedFrom:
CI
Age When Smoked:
fresh