Sutliff Tobacco Company Stoved Virginia #507-S
(3.48)
Bright Virginia is heated, turning it dark and bringing out the natural sugar. Good as an everyday smoke or as a blender.
Details
| Brand | Sutliff Tobacco Company |
| Blended By | |
| Manufactured By | Sutliff Tobacco Company |
| Blend Type | Straight Virginia |
| Contents | Virginia |
| Flavoring | |
| Cut | Ribbon |
| Packaging | Bulk |
| Country | United States |
| Production | Currently available |
Profile
Strength
Mild to Medium
Extremely Mild -> Overwhelming
Flavoring
None Detected
None Detected -> Extra Strong
Room Note
Pleasant
Unnoticeable -> Overwhelming
Taste
Medium to Full
Extremely Mild (Flat) -> Overwhelming
Average Rating
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3.48 / 4
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Reviews
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| Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jan 07, 2019 | Very Mild | None Detected | Medium to Full | Pleasant |
Stoved Va is my favourite genre of tobacco. With the demise of McClelland and the now absence of those blends containing their wonderful stoved tobaccos, and the unreliability in supply of Rattray's Black Virginia and Rattray's Dark Fragrant, the tobacco apocalypse appeared to have come early for me. I have trolled thru dozens of tobaccos described as 'unflavoured Black Cavendish' or 'natural Black Virginia' and similar hoping to find a bulk, easily available dark stoved Va, all to little avail. For my efforts I now have a very large jar of mixed tobacco of varying shades of vaniila, caramel, maple and Heaven knows what else. I use it for my excursion tobacco. It isn't very nice, but it at least has the virtue of being relatively inoffensive to strangers.
So when I came across this tobacco on my Friday Buy Day, my heart leapt a little to see a bulk offering clearly marked as a Stoved Va and unflavoured. But the often disappointed part of me was cautious. I was well past 'fool me twice' on this score.
But praise be! This is what it claims to be. A straight, bulk offering of unflavoured Stoved Black Viginia. I have found my unicorn blend.
To the tobacco. Given the sort of reviews I see on Tobacco Reviews, stoved Va is not a well loved beast. I appear to be an outlier in this regard, so take this review with that in mind. Chances are YMMV.
This tobacco is loaded with dried fruit aromas: currants, candied lemon peel etc. For me it is like smoking a Christmas pudding. It has very little nicotine. Puffed at a slow pace, as I think it should be, it does not produce much smoke at all. But it is packed with interesting flavours. I find stoved Vas do not bite, and 507S is no exception. Again, YMMV. It has the odd rough edge; I doubt this has the same quality source leaf as the Rattray's product, but to be fair, it is also a fraction of the price. Loving it. Highly recommended but only for lovers of the type.
So when I came across this tobacco on my Friday Buy Day, my heart leapt a little to see a bulk offering clearly marked as a Stoved Va and unflavoured. But the often disappointed part of me was cautious. I was well past 'fool me twice' on this score.
But praise be! This is what it claims to be. A straight, bulk offering of unflavoured Stoved Black Viginia. I have found my unicorn blend.
To the tobacco. Given the sort of reviews I see on Tobacco Reviews, stoved Va is not a well loved beast. I appear to be an outlier in this regard, so take this review with that in mind. Chances are YMMV.
This tobacco is loaded with dried fruit aromas: currants, candied lemon peel etc. For me it is like smoking a Christmas pudding. It has very little nicotine. Puffed at a slow pace, as I think it should be, it does not produce much smoke at all. But it is packed with interesting flavours. I find stoved Vas do not bite, and 507S is no exception. Again, YMMV. It has the odd rough edge; I doubt this has the same quality source leaf as the Rattray's product, but to be fair, it is also a fraction of the price. Loving it. Highly recommended but only for lovers of the type.
Pipe Used:
Ceramic
| Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jun 11, 2019 | Mild to Medium | None Detected | Medium to Full | Pleasant |
Once the bright Virginia leaf is stoved, it offers mildly fermented and tangy, rich, deep, dark fruit, some citrus, a lot of earth, wood, bread, and sugar, and very light lemon notes. The strength is a couple of steps past the mild level, while the taste just passes the medium mark. The nic-hit is hair more obvious than the strength threshold. No chance of bite or harshness. Burns a tad slow, very cool and clean with a sweetly consistent flavor from start to finish. Leaves little moisture in the bowl, and requires an average number of relights. Has a very pleasant, lightly lingering after taste and room note. Does well in the pipe as it is, though I do recommend a smallish bowl. As a mixer - which it was designed to be - it adds depth and dimension to any blend you choose to invent.
-JimInks
-JimInks
| Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| May 29, 2019 | Mild | None Detected | Medium to Full | Pleasant |
Sutliff Tobacco Co. - Stoved Virginia #507-S.
This review could be short: a very rich Virginia!
#507-S isn't just a ribbon, as badged. In fact, the blend's made of virtually black, very coarse pieces; a Mixture. The nose is full and fruity. I'm smoking this fresh and the moisture's refulgent; no airing was needed.
The moisture aids an easy ignition, and then, that word again: rich. The taste has all the fruit/luxury, one could expect from a top end Va. However, any citrus/sharp Va flavours are defunct; it's all about sweet, dark, fruit. Due to the coarse cut it burns slow, and medium in temperature. I get no tongue bite.
Nicotine: mild. Room-note: nice.
Stoved Virginia #507-S? Four stars:
Highly recommended.
This review could be short: a very rich Virginia!
#507-S isn't just a ribbon, as badged. In fact, the blend's made of virtually black, very coarse pieces; a Mixture. The nose is full and fruity. I'm smoking this fresh and the moisture's refulgent; no airing was needed.
The moisture aids an easy ignition, and then, that word again: rich. The taste has all the fruit/luxury, one could expect from a top end Va. However, any citrus/sharp Va flavours are defunct; it's all about sweet, dark, fruit. Due to the coarse cut it burns slow, and medium in temperature. I get no tongue bite.
Nicotine: mild. Room-note: nice.
Stoved Virginia #507-S? Four stars:
Highly recommended.
Pipe Used:
Mr Brog Bulldog
PurchasedFrom:
4noggins
Age When Smoked:
New
| Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jul 24, 2020 | Mild to Medium | Mild | Medium | Pleasant |
This is a blending component, but I am surprised it seems to be so good in its own right as a standalone. There is nothing remarkable about the first quarter of your bowl, but it evolves quite nicely once you go past it. Something worth mentioning is I can't detect any casing, this tobacco feels so clean it is hard to believe is one of Sutliff's. It looks as though it had been treated in the red Cavendish way, and it is reminiscent of C&D's Autumn Evening but without the casing. The tin note is sweet and evokes the smell of sultanas and figs. It comes as wet as those towelettes they use to wipe clean a baby's bottom, but I have been able to smoke it without needing many relights. Yes, I like it, and I can see myself buying again, so 4 stars this time.
| Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dec 02, 2019 | Mild | None Detected | Mild to Medium | Pleasant to Tolerable |
Wow! This blend is just great! I love it. The stoving really brings out the sweetness. It is like carmelizing an onion or garlic clove. The pouch note is understated, but a slightly charred aroma is noticeable. The smoke is rich, thick and tastes of ... stewed fruit with a touch of charred grassiness. Burns easily and slowly. Fantastic! Get some!
Pipe Used:
MM Country Gentleman, Al Pascia Curvy 03
PurchasedFrom:
SmokingPipes.com
Age When Smoked:
Fresh
| Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jan 17, 2021 | Mild to Medium | None Detected | Medium | Pleasant |
Whenever I buy tobacco, I always end up getting a few ounces of this stuff. It's one of my favorites. Not only is it great on it's own, but it's an excellent addition to lots of blends, adding complexity and a rich sweetness. It can give a sort of "aged smoothness" to blends too. It's also a major part of one of my favorite home blends: my "Black Balkan", which is basically just bright Virginia, Latakia, Smyra, and Sutliff's Stoved Virginia, with a few little tweaks.
This Stoved Virginia has a great smell, like rich fruit pastries. It actually smells a bit like fig newtons... which makes sense, since bright Virginia has that fruit sweetness, and when it's stoved, it brings out a pastry-like smell. The smoke is perfect too... it burns slow and very cool with zero bite. I don't know what else to say about this one, it's just a super enjoyable, highly versatile smoke.
This Stoved Virginia has a great smell, like rich fruit pastries. It actually smells a bit like fig newtons... which makes sense, since bright Virginia has that fruit sweetness, and when it's stoved, it brings out a pastry-like smell. The smoke is perfect too... it burns slow and very cool with zero bite. I don't know what else to say about this one, it's just a super enjoyable, highly versatile smoke.
Pipe Used:
Nob Hill
Age When Smoked:
fresh
| Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sep 14, 2021 | Mild to Medium | None Detected | Mild to Medium | Pleasant to Tolerable |
Bought for mixing but smoked it as is. Smoking now: The bag note reminds me of sweet sun tea. There’s a bit of fermented hay (tea leaves) very slight tang (lemon) and lots of sweet sugar (the sugar in your tea). It smells heavenly. Has a cooked sugar smell like maple. The leaves are HUGE. This isn’t ready rubbed tobacco these are the biggest leaves I’ve ever seen in pipe tobacco. Obviously this is meant for mixing. However it packed and lite just fine. Comes rather dry, or in my opinion the perfect moisture. This is a mixing tobacco. The taste. This has a pretty easy going and mellow body. The typical harshness of Virginia is toned way down by the stoving process. There’s dark hay flavors, slight fermented bread dough, dark sugar sweetness. It’s pure Virginia tobacco cooked down for pure smoking enjoyment. Retrohale does give you a mild Virginia sting but is worth it for the grassy hay and citrus notes. This reminds me of sun tea, in that it’s a no bullshit all natural sweetened tobacco. Would smoke this again by it self and will have fun mixing it. For what its intended job is I give it 4 stars. Can’t wait to see what this does over time. *update 1-1-23* Smoking a bowl of this 2 plus years later after smoking many more Virginias. Yeah this is a one dimensional mild sweet Virginia. Lemon tea is still a pretty good analogy for this. A little harsh or stinging on the retrohale. Definitely smokable on its own. Nic is mild
Pipe Used:
Two Peterson Systems
| Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Aug 30, 2021 | Very Mild | Very Mild | Mild | Pleasant |
Summary: a mild, flavorful sweet Virginia roasted to perfection.
Almost nothing in nature proves as convenient as an apple, which we just pick off the tree and enjoy. For most foodstuffs, we have to breed them selectively, choosing the high producers and making more of them instead of directly manipulating genes, then ferment them, press them, dice them, age them, and cook them. The same proves true of tobacco: probably from the same young stock red Virginia as their other blends, "507-S" goes through a roasting process that drives out most of the acid and ammonia, leaving behind an easy-smoking blend with a faint hint of maple and fruit, probably from whatever cased the blend before roasting. Although wet, it burns easily, and delivers a natural caramel flavor all the way to the bottom of the bowl. You could smoke this one straight all-day and not be dissatisfied, but if you mix it 60-40 with Burley and then add in your favorite aromatic as a third of the mix, you will end up with a lighter aromatic that loses none of its flavor. I would not use this in English blends without adding some bright and brown Virginias, but it might make a near-perfect vaper if you tossed in some bright Virginia and a little white Burley.
Almost nothing in nature proves as convenient as an apple, which we just pick off the tree and enjoy. For most foodstuffs, we have to breed them selectively, choosing the high producers and making more of them instead of directly manipulating genes, then ferment them, press them, dice them, age them, and cook them. The same proves true of tobacco: probably from the same young stock red Virginia as their other blends, "507-S" goes through a roasting process that drives out most of the acid and ammonia, leaving behind an easy-smoking blend with a faint hint of maple and fruit, probably from whatever cased the blend before roasting. Although wet, it burns easily, and delivers a natural caramel flavor all the way to the bottom of the bowl. You could smoke this one straight all-day and not be dissatisfied, but if you mix it 60-40 with Burley and then add in your favorite aromatic as a third of the mix, you will end up with a lighter aromatic that loses none of its flavor. I would not use this in English blends without adding some bright and brown Virginias, but it might make a near-perfect vaper if you tossed in some bright Virginia and a little white Burley.
| Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Apr 28, 2023 | Medium | None Detected | Medium to Full | Pleasant |
Jar note of toast, mild tart fruit and peaty vegetation. Tobacco is a mostly fat ribbon cut of mostly black and a little dark brown. Moisture content is great. Burns slow with a few extra relights. The strength is medium and nic is mild. No flavoring detected. Taste is medium to full and very consistent, with notes of mildly sour dark fruit, spices, floral, sugar, savory, rich, zesty, wood, earth, mild fermented vinegary, mildly bitter orange peel, bready, mildly acidic, sweet hay, a tart and tangy citrus background note, and a peppery retro. Room note is pleasant, and aftertaste is great.
Pipe Used:
Peterson Bard Rusticated 221 Fishtail
PurchasedFrom:
pipesandcigars.com
Age When Smoked:
4 years
| Reviewed By | Date | Rating | Strength | Flavoring | Taste | Room Note |
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| Dec 14, 2021 | Mild to Medium | None Detected | Medium to Full | Pleasant to Tolerable |
Sutliff Stoved VA 507-S has a jar note that is rich and deep with sweetness, some dark fruit notes and a little earthy. In the pipe, there is a fermented and tangy dark fruit note that move toward tart at times, it is very earthy with a note or two of wood, a slight yest/bread note and at times subtle note of lemon peal that comes and goes. It does take several false lights before it gets going but after it takes light it burns with just a few relights. The nic is at the middle of the mild to med range but the flavor is med full end, something that at least for me is not often said. It will not bite and the room note for me is very nice but wins no awards with the wife. The flavors do not develop toward the bottom as I expected what I get in the initial few puffs is all that is there so don't push this as it will get bitter. I prefer this in a medium sized bowl if smoking it straight. When mixed it adds depth and that dark fruity note that goes with just about anything. My 4 oz sample was very chunky and it is better if placed in a blender and briefly cut down a little when adding it to another blend. This is an easy 4 stars.
Age When Smoked:
11 months
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