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A wonderful blend of Virginia, Burley and Black Cavendish. A unique Vanilla flavor with an awesome room note. A simple aromatic and a great all around smoke. Perfect for that comfortable and mild aromatic change.

Brand4noggins
Blended ByRich Gottlieb
Manufactured By4noggins
Blend TypeAromatic
ContentsBlack Cavendish, Burley, Virginia
FlavoringVanilla
CutRibbon
PackagingBulk
CountryUS
ProductionCurrently available
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Strength
Mild
Flavoring
Mild
Taste
Mild
Room Note
Pleasant
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JimInks Reviewed By DateRating StrengthFlavoringTasteRoom Note
JimInks (2978)
★★★☆
Mild Mild Mild Very Pleasant

The burley is very nutty with some molasses and a touch of cocoa. and is the more prominent tobacco. The Virginia is a little grassy and citrus sweet in a support role. I suspect some red Virginia is present due to the light tangy dark fruitiness. I think the black cavendish is unsweetened, which would account for some brown sugar in the background. The silky rich vanilla topping is mildly applied, and compliments the tobaccos even if it does tone them down just a little. The nic-hit is mild. A little moist out of the baggie, but doesn’t really need any dry time. Burns a little slow, cool, clean with a very smooth, consistent flavor, and easily burns to ash. Requires a few relights, but not many. Leaves a little moisture in the bowl, but no goop or dottle. No chance of bite or harshness. Has a pleasant, but short lived after taste. An easy going all day mild smoke that won’t wear out its welcome.

-JimInks

8 people found this review helpful.

Emeritus Account Reviewed By DateRating StrengthFlavoringTasteRoom Note
Emeritus Account (30116)
★★☆☆
Very Mild Very Mild Mild to Medium Pleasant

One of the samples I was granted with by “Hetfield1979”, if someone can describe 1 oz as a sample, of each tobacco he gave me. Virginia, Burley and Black Cavendish are its components. A soft vanilla aroma gives the mixture a special note. Nothing to fancy, don't get carried away, just a parenthesis between the Virginia and the Oriental, or perhaps better, a tryout I owed to make. It bites the tongue, enough. Also, after the 3/5 of the bowl it brings out a weird bitterness. The room note is particularly good (as if it could be otherwise). For sure, there are plenty superior vanilla flavored tobaccos to try.

6 people found this review helpful.

StevieB Reviewed By DateRating StrengthFlavoringTasteRoom Note
StevieB (2065)
★★☆☆
Mild Mild Mild Very Pleasant

4noggins - Otter Creek.

As always with 4noggins, the pouch has been squeezed of any air before sealing it. I love that about 4noggins. The moisture must have been spot on when it was removed from bulk as it isn't dry or damp. Although all of the blend can be smoked, it includes a few huge strands. The bags aroma is one clearly of vanilla.

The smoke: it's a decent enough blend, albeit, not too interesting. The Burley is the stronger of the three tobaccos, with the Cavendish and Virginia quite a way behind. The vanilla gives the smoke a smooth quality, but isn't heavily added. The burn from O.C. is consistent and even, giving a low temperature smoke.

Nicotine: mild. Room-note: nice.

I really like a lot of the 4noggins blends, but this one becomes a touch laborious for any higher than two stars:

Somewhat recommended.

Pipe Used: Rattray's

Age When Smoked: One month

Purchased From: 4noggins

5 people found this review helpful.

Ticktocker Reviewed By DateRating StrengthFlavoringTasteRoom Note
Ticktocker (9)
★★★★
Mild Very Mild Mild Very Pleasant

To me, this is one of the mellowest and mildest tobaccos in my line up. Smokes easy and without anything that really sticks out. Just a simple, slight vanilla taste that is very nice in the morning before taking on stronger tobacco throughout the day. I've been told that room note is very favorable to those that do not partake. It does not leave any after taste nor does it burn too quickly or to wet. It's a "just right" blend that can be smoked in any size pipe.

Pipe Used: Many different sized pipes

Age When Smoked: 2 week old

Purchased From: 4Noggins

3 people found this review helpful.

Hillbilly08 Reviewed By DateRating StrengthFlavoringTasteRoom Note
Hillbilly08 (38)
★★★★
Mild Very Mild Mild Very Pleasant

Very mild, pleasant if somewhat unadventurous aromatic tobacco with the usual gentle and subtle flavours typical of blends made by Rich. As for the leaf, Virginia seems to be somewhat muted, with Burley and Black Cavendish dominating. Fresh Virginia noticeable at first with flavours darkening somewhat soon and quite noticeable halfway through the bowl. The topping is only slight and it should not deter anyone not used to aromatics. Burns well straight out of the pouch. No tongue bite whatsoever, even when "pushed". Well developed fine ash, no relighting needed even the tobacco was not aired or dried first at all. Suits new pipe smokers who do not crave a nicotine hit, or non-aro smokers looking for a change of pace.

Pipe Used: Winslow (Stanwell) Rhodesian, 9mm active filter

Age When Smoked: fresh

Purchased From: 4noggins

Similar Blends: Lane 1-Q (but Otter Creek is lighter on flavouring).

3 people found this review helpful.

Emeritus Account Reviewed By DateRating StrengthFlavoringTasteRoom Note
Emeritus Account (30116)
★★★☆
Mild to Medium Mild to Medium Mild to Medium Pleasant

I got a free sample of this one...I was surprised by how good it was...the tobacco was nice and moist. I would try it again.

3 people found this review helpful.

DrumsAndBeer Reviewed By DateRating StrengthFlavoringTasteRoom Note
DrumsAndBeer (217)
★★★☆
Mild Mild Mild Pleasant

Another nice aromatic by Rich Gottlieb.

I received this one as a sample with a recent order. Perfect moisture, smokes a tad bit on the hot side. No bite and the flavor remains consistent even when hot. With patience and care taken to smoking it slow, you'll be rewarded with a deeper semi sweet vanilla flavor that melds nicely with that of the tobacco. This one has a bit of a richer burley foundation that comes through towards the middle of the smoke to the end. Very nice. I had to relight the pipe a tad more than usual, but altogether this is a flavorful and well behaved aromatic. In my humble opinion Rich's blends are right on par with anything I have had from the Boswell clan.

2 people found this review helpful.

Emeritus Account Reviewed By DateRating StrengthFlavoringTasteRoom Note
Emeritus Account (30116)
★★★☆
Mild Mild to Medium Very Mild Pleasant

More or less agree with every one else on this. The only aromatics I like are Richards at 4 Noggins, apart from McB vanilla, and he sent me a sample with my last order. Bit mild for me but very good.

2 people found this review helpful.

Emeritus Account Reviewed By DateRating StrengthFlavoringTasteRoom Note
Emeritus Account (30116)
★★★☆
Mild Mild to Medium Mild to Medium Pleasant

This review is based on a small free sample I got from Rich. The description seems to be right on spot. A straightforward, nice aromatic. Three stars for aromatic lovers.

2 people found this review helpful.

Emeritus Account Reviewed By DateRating StrengthFlavoringTasteRoom Note
Emeritus Account (30116)
★★★☆
Mild Mild to Medium Mild to Medium Pleasant

The main part of this blend is the burley. The vanilla was noticeable and provided some sweetness. This tobacco only required 2 lights to burn to the bottom of the bowl.

I did notice some bitterness in the second half of the bowl, but not enough to ruin the experience.

Pipe Used: Peterson

Age When Smoked: Fresh

Purchased From: 4noggins

1 person found this review helpful.

Emeritus Account Reviewed By DateRating StrengthFlavoringTasteRoom Note
Emeritus Account (30116)
★★☆☆
Mild Mild Mild Pleasant

This tobacco displayed mainly burley overtones. The slight vanilla scent was nice. The one thing that amazed me about this tobacco was that one light is all that was needed, then no more all the way to the bottom of the bowl.

I did pick up on some bitterness that I didn't care for and a flavor similar to anise, which I really didn't like. The first part of the smoke was the best. A good tobacco to relax with while having coffee.

Pipe Used: Peterson

Age When Smoked: Fresh

1 person found this review helpful.

Timmer Reviewed By DateRating StrengthFlavoringTasteRoom Note
Timmer (8)
★★☆☆
Very Mild Very Mild Mild Pleasant

I'm still a newbie ... about 6 months in. Early on, I liked this. Now, after some tastier English's and Virginia/VaPers, I find it just a bit above bland. It's not offensive in any way, but not very noteworthy either. Thus far, my favorite from 4noggins is Weybridge.

Pipe Used: Falcon, small bowl

Age When Smoked: fresh

Purchased From: 4noggins

1 person found this review helpful.

Longstreet Reviewed By DateRating StrengthFlavoringTasteRoom Note
Longstreet (6)
★★★★
Mild Medium Mild Very Pleasant

A very good sweet tobacco that burns very well. It is mild but has a good flavor. It is a good choice for a long big pipe smoke. I like it as my change of pace blend or for that long relaxing smoke. It burns well, clean and with a nice ash.

Pipe Used: Edwards Algerian briar

Age When Smoked: Fresh and aged

Purchased From: 4noggins

Similar Blends: Similar in some ways to Stokkebye optimum in some was but smoother..

1 person found this review helpful.

Capt Reviewed By DateRating StrengthFlavoringTasteRoom Note
Capt (338)
★★★☆
Mild to Medium Extremely Mild Mild to Medium Pleasant to Tolerable

Otter Creek is an even cut ribbon tobacco comprised of Black cavendish, Burley and Virginia. No stems or twigs to speak of in my 1oz pouch. The aroma is sweet, nutty and a bit toasty. The moisture level as with all 4Noggins blends, is perfect. The tobacco packs and lights very well, and no stickiness on the fingers after packing.

The topping on this blend is extremely light. You get the most of it when sipped slowly, and on the exhale through the nose. The burley seems to be main stage here. It's nutty, and the vanilla rounds off any potential rough edges. The Virginia is vegetal and grassy. As others have stated, I do not get any sweetness from the black cavendish, just the slight sweet addition from the vanilla.

Otter Creek burns clean and cool, leaving a long-lasting clean/refreshing feeling on the palate. I've enjoyed this with my morning coffee with heavy cream during the summer heat.

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Pip'n'Piper Reviewed By DateRating StrengthFlavoringTasteRoom Note
Pip'n'Piper (39)
★★★★
Mild to Medium Mild Mild to Medium Very Pleasant

I really enjoy 4N's Thomas Blend and Three Blind Moose, but this one may just beat out both. The tin note has that real vanilla bean booziness to it. The cavendish is sweet and out front. The burley is right behind, nutty with a slight burnt taste. The virginia is the least noticeable, extremely mild sweet grass notes. The vanilla topping is sweet, at times it reminds me of those small marshmellows in carnation hot chocolate mix, but it isn't heavy and doesnt take away from the tobacco. The vanilla does lessen by mid-bowl, but the tobacco is good enough to maintain one's interest. It smokes effortlessly. Decent amount of nicotine for an aromatic. It's especially smooth on the tongue and palate. It's not some life altering tobacco, but it is well blended, it tastes great, it has depth of flavour and an overall hearty character. Probably closer to 3 star, but I love vanilla burleys and there is zero bite, so its a 4. Highly recommend.

Pipe Used: Cobs

Purchased From: 4noggins

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