Fribourg & Treyer Wingate Mixture

(2.83)
Classic English mixture with a subtle dash of perique.

Details

Brand Fribourg & Treyer
Blended By Kohlhase & Kopp
Manufactured By  
Blend Type English
Contents Latakia, Perique, Virginia
Flavoring
Cut Ribbon
Packaging 50 grams tin
Country Germany
Production Currently available

Profile

Strength
Mild to Medium
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Extremely Mild -> Overwhelming
Flavoring
None Detected
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
None Detected -> Extra Strong
Room Note
Pleasant
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Unnoticeable -> Overwhelming
Taste
Mild to Medium
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Extremely Mild (Flat) -> Overwhelming

Average Rating

2.83 / 4
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Jun 08, 2002 Mild None Detected Mild to Medium Pleasant
A delicious light Latakia blend (YES, it has Latakia in it) with Périque.

Perhaps because of the absence of Turkish condimentals, and an expert dose of Périque, this is actually lighter, yet more interesting, than Dunhill's EARLY MORNING. This blend has some depth, and I think all Latakia lovers will enjoy it.

I puffed on this during a jazz evening at the KNITTING FACTORY, and was complimented on its bouquet by several people. Later that week I smoked it while waiting for my love at the Brooklyn Botanical Gardens, and, upon realising that I had been stood up, I followed it with a bowl of HAMBORGER VEERMASTER. With the palate primped up by WINGATE and some inner tears, VEERMASTER happened to taste particularly sweet and delicious. My pipe, and the breeze on the cherry allée, seemed almost like a consolation.
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Mar 11, 2015 Medium None Detected Medium Pleasant
My favorite in the F&T line as it is a sweet Latakia blend with strength and a smidgen of Perique that lends to rather than overwhelms the tobacco. I would call this one very similar (except with much more flavor depth), to Iwan Ries's Gourmet English if you included a little Perique. I enjoyed my tin and the tobacco (from 2003) was extremely well aged and I am sure that added to the enjoyment.

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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Jan 17, 2018 Mild to Medium None Detected Mild to Medium Pleasant
Fribourg & Treyer - Wingate Mixture.

To me there tastes like there's more than a subtle 'dash' of Perique as per description. From word go the presence of spicy Perique is notable with extreme ease. The Latakia doesn't domineer, as can often be the case with an English, but is a team player. I get a sweet, tangy, fruitiness from the Virginias, which softens the flavour, somewhat. I notice no added flavouring, as strong as the sweetness is it seems natural, from the Va. Wingate burns well requiring only a little attention. Be careful, though, it can be a little fast.

Nicotine: below medium. Room-note: pleasant.

Well rounded for an English, but not my thing. Two stars:

Somewhat recommended.
Pipe Used: Vauen
PurchasedFrom: Smokingpipes.com
Age When Smoked: 4 months
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Jul 07, 2016 Mild to Medium None Detected Medium Pleasant
Looks in the tin like every English blend I've ever seen with it's tan to black ribbons. On first opening it had a similar aroma to some of the old Dunhill blends but it receded quickly. Easy to load and keep lit.

This tasted like exactly what it contained - Virginia, latakia and perique. It began with a mild burst of latakia but the perique quickly overtook the latakia. The Virginias were of an easy sweetness and tang, and didn't fight with the two condiments. This blend retained a sizzling spiciness throughout the bowl, but an obvious lack of any real depth. Except for the various tobacco tastes moving around in prominence, this had no complexity to speak of. For the most part (there are some exceptions) a blend where the existence of latakia isn't an afterthought, the lack of orientals makes for a very shallow blend, lacking in any jump factor and becoming quickly monotonous. Such was the case here. Not a bad blend, just nothing to get excited over. I did enjoy it's spicy character but there was little backbone to it. I'm going to experiment with blending in some choice orientals to my second tin and see what magic that produces.
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Dec 31, 2013 Mild Extremely Mild Extremely Mild (Flat) Pleasant to Tolerable
Historie of F&T

Fribourg & Treyer of 34 Haymarket, London sold snuff and the best quality at that. But, a partnership between a Mr. Fribourg and a Mr. Treyer had never existed. The firm was allegedly started in 1720 by P. Fribourg, although the earliest surviving ledger is dated 1764. It is not clear whether the same P. Fribourg was in control of the shop all those years, or whether more generations had the same initial. According to Evans, the Fribourgs had originally come from Switzerland.

From a tax assessment record of 1767 for the St. Martin in the Field parish, it is certain that a Peter Fribourg was paying taxes for a property in the Haymarket. He retired in 1780 and the shop was taken over by G.A. Treyer who linked the – no doubt well-known and highly esteemed – name of Fribourg to his own.

Gottlieb August Treyer, originally from Germany, had married Martha Evans the same year he took over the snuff shop and was granted naturalisation in 1793. The couple had no children and when they retired in 1803, the daily management was put into the hands of Price Evans, Martha’s brother, during the minority of the three sons of Richard Evans, one of Martha’s other brothers. By 1815, Martha and Gottlieb were both dead and the two nephews George (1786- 1867) and Gottlieb August Treyer (1789-1869) were old enough to manage without their uncle. Later, they were joined by their younger brother Robert Lloyd (±1803-?). This partnership was dissolved in 1858 in favour of the next generation, Gottlieb August Treyer junior (1818-1899), the son of G.A.T. senior, George Arthur Carter (1833-1887), son of George, and Price James Evans (1815-1885), the son of James Evans, a cousin of G.A.T. senior and George. After the death of these three cousins, the firm was then managed by August (1843-1906), son of G.AT. junior, and George (1867-after 1920), the son of G.A.C. Evans. August died in 1906 and the firm became the responsibility of George and August’s son W. Bridgman (1876-after 1920).(4)

Source: G. Evans, The Old Snuff House

to the Mixture:

For me (so far) it was the best of smoked.

Until about 20 years.

There were still about 5 years, where it was just about good, but not more so great. Since 15 years now, this is something completely different mix than before.

description:

Fribourg & Treyer Wingate Mixture

Description before:

A powerful blend of Virginia, Havana, Latakia and Perique-tobaccos. For less experienced smokers perhaps a bit too strong diet For connoisseurs, however, who like a strong English tobacco, it is a smoking experience of a special kind

Today, it is stated: Description Planta: Classic English mixture with a subtle dash of Perique

so it was a 5 Star before - and now a 0,5 star
Pipe Used: Ashton - Dunhill - Castello
PurchasedFrom: different
Age When Smoked: 1- 12
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Nov 26, 2015 Mild Extremely Mild Mild to Medium Tolerable
I really like this blend and wish it came in Bulk. The blend is a mild, smooth, and an all day, Balkan ( not Latakia forward) with that easy to use "Dunhill like" ribbon cut. The taste is surprisingly full for such a mild blend, with perfect balance between the Virginias, Perique, Latakia and yes, I detect other Orientals.

It's very interesting to read the other reviews, as we ALL seem to be all over the place with this one . Reading reviewer, " Deleted Account" 2013-12-31 ,it seems there may have been a change in the blending a few years back. Older reviews indicate a much stronger and spicier , English style blend, this blend now is not that way.

I've tried Wingate as a replacement for my first pipe of the day, which is usually EMP, but I find that it doesn't have the kick I need and would rather smoke it with my "second" cup of coffee. It doesn't have that "Lemon Pucker" of EMP, maybe closer to "Germain's King Charles Mixture" in behavior. I do detect hints of split oak , cinnamon and nutmeg when "mouth breathing", similar to Dunhill's London Blend , But no real topping.

All in all, a great blend for between heavier offerings . ( let this breath and dry for about two weeks in the tin to bring out its best. )
Pipe Used: Maple & Cob
Age When Smoked: Fresh Tin opened two weeks ago
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Jun 19, 2014 Medium None Detected Medium Tolerable
I cannot tell F&T's Wingate and Fox's Dorisco apart by smell, appearance or taste, so I am giving them the same review. This is not to say they are the same tobacco because this might just reflect the limitations of my abilities. What differences, if any, there are between these tobaccos, apart from price (Wingate is about 20% less expensive at time of writing), I will leave to better noses.

Both Wingate and Dorisco seem to be variations on Presbyterian. That is they are a light English mixture of Orientals, Latakia leaf tip and fine Viriginias, to which has been added a generous hit of Perique.

Visually, the tobacco is a short ribbon cut of many colours, from grey green to black. The tin note is predominantly pine needles and a gentle caramel with some spiciness.

This tobacco packs and burns easily. Altho the presence of Perique here has the effect of amplifying everything else in the blend, it is still a well behaved, moderate tobacco.

Latakia predominates from the first light, but unlike Presbyterian, shares the show with the peppery Perique. As the bowl progresses the Perique overtakes the Latakia. Between them some lovely Virginias add sweetness and Orientals add lightness and aroma.

This tobacco won't be for everyone but is a first rate blend in my opinion.
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Jan 08, 2012 Medium Very Mild Medium Pleasant to Tolerable
This review is only based on a four bowl sample for take it for what it's worth. As others have pointed out, this is a sweet and spicy blend. The spice coming from the perique, and the sweet coming from some manually added sweetness as I suspect it isn't coming from the Virginia's alone. There is definitely some strength to this blend, but I wouldn't call it overwhelming. Like all F&T tobaccos, it is of high quality leaf. I am not suggesting that this is in the genre of scented Lakeland tobaccos. But similar to scented blends, assuming the quality underlying tobacco is good, it comes down to whether or not you're a fan of the topping. I don't dislike it, but it isn't interesting enough to buy any tins.
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Dec 12, 2007 Medium None Detected Medium Pleasant to Tolerable
Fifteen years ago I used to enjoy the then complex Wingate mixture's generous dash of havana tobacco. After changing from cigar to pipe smoking recently, I was disappointed to find the tobacco changed beyond recognition by the new blenders. Now it's a harmless "english" blend strengthened a bit by perique but in no way the original, much more powerful and interesting Wingate of Fribourg & Treyer!
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Nov 19, 2017 Mild to Medium None Detected Mild Pleasant
This is a high-quality Virginia Perique with Latakia making this a smokey VaPer. A great choice for fans of VaPer, but maybe too sweet and mild for a Latakia fan.
Pipe Used: Meerschaum
Age When Smoked: Fresh
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