Fribourg & Treyer Waterloo No. 2 Mixture

(2.45)
A mild English blend of Virginias and Latakia.

Details

Brand Fribourg & Treyer
Blended By Kohlhase & Kopp
Manufactured By Kohlhase & Kopp
Blend Type Virginia/Latakia
Contents Latakia, Virginia
Flavoring
Cut Ribbon
Packaging 50 grams tin
Country Germany
Production Currently available

Profile

Strength
Mild to Medium
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Extremely Mild -> Overwhelming
Flavoring
None Detected
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
None Detected -> Extra Strong
Room Note
Tolerable
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Unnoticeable -> Overwhelming
Taste
Mild to Medium
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Extremely Mild (Flat) -> Overwhelming

Average Rating

2.45 / 4
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Jun 09, 2011 Mild to Medium None Detected Mild to Medium Very Pleasant
Not a particularly heavy Latakia flavor here, but certainly enough to perk up the old taste buds. The Virginia leaf seemed a little less than top-shelf to me, and that probably is what drops this to a 3-star blend. There are many similar Latakia/Virginia blends on the market today with more strength and flavor, but this is not a throwaway blend by any means.
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Nov 05, 2021 Mild to Medium None Detected Mild to Medium Pleasant to Tolerable
The Virginias provide a little tangy dark fruit, earth, wood, bread, sugar, mild tart and tangy citrus, grass, and vegetation along with light spice and floralness as the lead components. The musty, mildly sweet Cyprian Latakia offers secondary support rather than being a full supporting player. Its aspects include smoke, wood, floralness, and a small spice note. The strength and nic-hit are in the center of mild to medium. The taste is a step ahead of that. No chance of bite or harshness, and barely has any rough edges. Burns cool and clean at a reasonable pace with a mostly consistent, mildly smoky sweet flavor that extends to the pleasant, short lived after taste. The room note is a tad stronger. Leaves little dampness in the bowl, and requires an average number of relights. An all day smoke designed to appeal to those who want a light Latakia presence. The lack of depth makes it a two and a half star production.

-JimInks
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Nov 27, 2009 Medium None Detected Medium to Full Tolerable to Strong
First off, I have NO idea how old the tin is. It could very well be in excess of 10 years old. It seems I am the only guy in town who is buying anything in tins.

That being said, I rather like this blend. It is very interesting to look at. A medium sort of cut with lots of bright golden strands, medium brown ribbons, and black flakey bits. Advertised as a blend of VAs and latakia it never really defines it self with flavor. It keeps moving the target around, which can either be of great interest, or rather frustrating. When you open, fluff, and pack it, the aroma is smoke latakia, but the smell that sticks to your fingers is VA. On the false light it is 100% latakia for the first puff, maybe two. Then it is gone. It just lingers in the back poking its head in the door from time to time to see if you are still smoking. I kind of like that, rather than the HEY! YOU'RE SMOKING A LATAKIA BLEND! punch that frequently leaves my with a cold, yet burnt over dry sensation in the back of my mouth. The VAs never get sweet and lemony, but are mellow and have a nice sort of harmonious flow back and forth with a soft and creamy mouthfeel. I occasionally noticed some cocoa flavors, and something floral, and once, something slightly like fresh clean linens. I know that is dumb, but it was there. Haven't smoked it in a big bowl yet, but in a smaller billiard it was very well behaved, didn't require but a few minutes of drying time before lighting, and stayed lit. No bite, no steam, no mess. I did have one little gurgle in each bowl, but I didn't find it to be a problem which couldn't be solved by the quick swipe of a pipe cleaner.

All in all I rather like this mixture. There is nothing gimmicky, or overly exciting about it. The vitamin N is rather moderate, but is enough to take your edge off. Room note.....not so sure. It left my truck smelling of old smoke. But hey, I smoke 4-6 bowls in there every day. Sometimes the truck just smells like old smoke.

It wasn't terribly expensive, and was a comforting kind of mellow smoke, so I say give it a try!
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Sep 27, 2005 Medium None Detected Medium Tolerable
Appearance and Tin Aroma: Looks like Squadron Leader in the tin with medium width ribbons of lemon, brown, and dark leaf packed tightly in the tin. Smells more like a VA dominant blend in the tin with the latakia well in the background. it also has a spicy, pungent odor uncommon to English blends but more akin to a VA blend.

Packing and Lighting: The moisture is perfect out of the tin, but is a hassle to get out of the tin when first opened. After about four bowls, the packing loosens up. Lighting is 2-3 lights max.

Initial Flavor: This tastes like a typical F&T Va dominant blend. Its German processing influence is noticable. In their Va blends it is quite delicious, but here, it tastes out of place.

Mid-bowl: This is, unfortunately, a harsh tasting blend. I can't seem to get it in the zone where flavor and temperature are in balance. There is almost no sweetness in this blend either.

Bottom of Bowl: I am actually glad when it is over because of the battle (pun intended) I had with this blend every bowl. It ends dry with mottled ash and with some strength build up, but nothing that will draw me back.

Overall: First, I have to say that I really enjoy some of F&T blends such as Virginia Cut Plug, etc.. Unfortunately, Waterloo did not do anything well for me. It always bordered on tongue-bite and when not too hot, had a harsh VA flavor with no sweetness to offset it. i won't be buying anymore of this blend and I can't say I recommend it. Stick to Chonowitch's T-16 instead for a delightfully complex light English...
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Apr 18, 2014 Mild to Medium None Detected Mild to Medium Pleasant to Tolerable
A Virginia dominant Lat/Va blend. The Virginias have a decent flavor and a minimal amount of sweetness. They also are "wannabe" biters. They seem to want to bite, but they never actually do. This has the annoying effect of keeping me on edge while smoking this blend. Not conducive to relaxation. The Latakia is just in too small of a proportion to be much of a factor here. I can't recommend this blend.
Pipe Used: MM General, MM Country Gentleman
PurchasedFrom: pipesandcigars.com
Age When Smoked: fresh
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Jul 14, 2005 Medium to Strong None Detected Medium to Full Tolerable
To say that Fribourg & Treyer's 'Waterloo No.2 Mixture' is the best German pipe tobacco that I have smoked (which it is) is not saying much. All German weed that I have puffed has a harshness that is bloody nauseating. It is this same factor that causes a knot feeling in my throat--a consistent feeling with German offerings. Without this harshness (and with this product is it the least harsh of any DE rope), this would easily be a 3-star tobacco. As it stands, though, I cannot go beyond two (even with the great billows of smoke this produces). 'Waterloo No.2 Mixture' is worth a try, but not worth keeping around.
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Oct 17, 2012 Mild to Medium None Detected Mild to Medium Pleasant to Tolerable
My review is based on about a half ounce sample of some with quite a bit of age on it. So take it for what it's worth. The amount of Latakia here would be consistent with that of a light/medium to medium English mixture. Surprisingly, the Virginia's don't seem to have gained much sweetness from the aging process. I am going to toss my hat in with Sir Pipestud and the leaf seems OK but not top shelf. The burn and pack are both with ease and it burns cleanly. It didn't bite me but it can be “warm” if not careful. There isn't much complexity here either, but the softening of the small amount of Latakia in the blend may have contributed to the result. Waterloo isn't bad a bad blend, but just not interesting enough to lay out a few bucks for more. Two and a half stars.
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Mar 06, 2018 Mild to Medium None Detected Mild to Medium Pleasant to Tolerable
Fribourg & Treyer - Waterloo No.2 Mixture.

The hydration's good, the same size tin as Dunhill now use aids decent smokeability. The aroma from the tin seems a little light for a Latakia/Virginia.

Without doubt the Virginias account for the primary flavour. At first the Virginias completely smother the Latakia, it takes a while to be able to identify any Latakia. At no point is the Lat' a 'driving force', at best it gives only a delicate woody-smokiness, but, that delicate note is just enough to attest its presence. On the negative side of things it can burn too warm and fast, so it necessitates a gentle technique. It can bite.

Nicotine: mild to medium. Room-note: pleasant to tolerable.

Waterloo No.2? Would make a good entry blend into the English field. For my palate, though, I want much more from a blend containing Latakia. Two stars:

Somewhat recommended.
Pipe Used: Peterson Summertime 2017 XL02
PurchasedFrom: Smokingpipes.com
Age When Smoked: Three months
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Mar 02, 2011 Mild to Medium None Detected Mild to Medium Tolerable
Bought some accessories from Iwan Ries out of Chicago and noticed the name more than anything. Saw it was Virginia and Latkia and billed as a mild Va./Latakia mix so bought a fresh tin. Had a nice lunch and had some extra time so to add to the quiet time I loaded 3/4's bowl of the Waterloo in one of my favorite Nachwalter's hand made. I found it to be a pleasant and interesting taste. It surprised me because it tastes to me more like a rich Virginia. There's a subtle hint of the Latakia but if I didn't know it was in the blend I'd be guessing. A favorite of mine is Stokkebye's Balkan Supreme. Robust latakia with super mildness. The Waterloo to me is nice and mild and a robust rich Virginia taste with a very subtle Latakia lurking in the background. Nice smoke, quality tobacco. Smooth and relaxing. The room note is much more tolerable for those around me than the heavy latakia blends. No doubt they will complain about this mix (they even complain on those rare moments when I'm in the mood for an aromatic blend) so if your house is like mine you're likely to get less flak with this even when you smoke outside only like me. I'd give it a sold 3.5 to 4.
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Reviewed By Date Rating Strength Flavoring Taste Room Note
Nov 02, 2010 Mild to Medium None Detected Mild to Medium Pleasant
Upon lighting my first bowl of Waterloo No 2 mixture I was tempted to dismiss it as an insipid non-entity. What an error of judgement that would have been! After a couple of days of breathing in the tin the mixture acquired a redolence of something like Royalty and a taste of something like Early Morning Pipe. Not quite as rich as Royalty and not quite as manly as EMP, Waterloo nevertheless combines the elegance and charm of both in a muted way.

I think there is a definite graceful oriental presence, and the latakia is gently applied. Excellent as the first pipe of the day, by the afternoon one wants something a bit heavier. I suspect that as with age the appetite for strong sensations wanes, this could well become an all-day smoke.
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