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The ultimate in natural quality tobacco. 100% A-1 Bright Matured Virginias pressed and single cut in the classic British/European tradition.

BrandConsolidated
Blended ByAltadis Usa
Blend TypeStraight Virginia
ContentsVirginia
FlavoringNone
CutFlake
Packaging2oz, 8oz, 1lb ,5lb
CountryUS
ProductionCurrently available
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Mild, Mild to Medium, Medium
Flavoring
None Detected
Taste
Mild, Mild to Medium, Medium
Room Note
Pleasant
3.3
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Mork Reviewed By DateRating StrengthFlavoringTasteRoom Note
Mork (69)
★★★★
Mild None Detected Mild Unnoticeable

507-C Virginia Slices, Sutliff

Description: The ultimate in natural quality tobacco. 100% A-1 Bright Matured Virginias pressed and single cut in the classic British/European tradition.

Storage/Age: Composite review of fresh out to 4-5 years.

Flavor Profile:

Just about the most unassuming bright VA flake available. Straight out hay, citrus, sweet profile which, while pretty rough when young, ages into an extremely smokable and enjoyable product. There are some flitting hints of caramel in this leaf. An exceptionally uniform and straightforward profile; what you get is what you get. There isn’t much nuance to be found in this blend, but what it does it does rather well.

Subjective Musings:

The topic of diminishing returns in tobacco came up recently on my club/forum. I used LBF as an example, but in all fairness I probably should have used this blend. LBF is rather unique in the sense that I view it as one of the better blends in its genre, regardless of price.

Here, with 507, the discussion takes on a bit more meaning. This is not as good as a more expensive bright VA like say, Cap Gold. But it’s reasonably close. If one were to compare US markets alone, it’s $23/lb for 507 on sale. It’s $140~ for Cap Gold. So, without getting too nitty gritty about it, is Cap Gold 6 times better than 507? I would say no. In absolute fairness, with the German market opening to the US and as of the time of this review Cap Gold being available for $55/lb in boxes, it would be a no brainer to get the Capstan from that source. I do believe it is worth the extra price per pound in that circumstance.

So I guess that’s the example to really work from because it illustrates the math pretty well. Not worth it at 6 times the price, but worth it at less than double.

Aside from the comparative tin math, or rather bulk math in this instance, I do feel solid and secure placing this blend in a no brainer cellar category. It’s just so inexpensive that tossing less than $100 at it once a year would add 4 pounds of extremely solid VA flake to the cellar. Put it in mylar, toss it in the back of you cellar, and forget about it for five to ten years. People love to talk about the impending tobaccopocalypse, but few seem to discuss really concrete solutions to that impending event outside of spending thousands, if not tens of thousands, on premium tobacco. For many smokers that just isn’t plausible. 4 pounds a year for five years, left untouched, would give you 20 pounds of solid flake to smoke in the event that online sales are banned, taxes go through the roof, or any number of potentials occur. In all honesty one could comfortable double or triple that figure and be quite well stocked on a very smokable flake which can, and does, improve steadily and significantly with time.

There are better VAs out there. But they’re generally two to six times as expensive and, in my humble opinion, not necessarily worth that premium when viewed from a budget conscious position or the impending end of this golden age of tobacco procurement. Will I keep buying FVF? Of course. Will I slowly be adding this to the cellar when it comes on sale? You bet.

Cellar Notes/Final Thoughts:

I went into the cellar aspect of this blend pretty extensively already. It’s deep cellar worthy due to its price point, if not necessarily for its inherent quality. Which, while high enough to smoke consistently as cellar padding certainly isn’t up to the level of the more premium VAs available currently. If you have endless cash, go for the premium stuff heavy and hard. If you’re tighter on funds take a long look at this blend and others like it. Your future self will thank you for it.

Rating: 7.5/10. Quality rating only, I’ll still be throwing a lot of this in the cellar.

Rating Scale:

10 - Gods Gift to Pipe Smokers, Buy It All No Matter the Cost

9 - Nearly Perfect, Deep Cellar Worthy

8 - Exceptional, More Than a Few Tins

7 - Very Good, A Few Tins

6 - Good, One Tin is Fine Thanks

5 - Average, but Pleasant Enough, I’ll Finish the Tin/Sample

4 - Smokable, but Wouldn’t Smoke it Again

3 - I’ll Finish the Bowl, I guess

2 - I Wish I Hadn’t Done This

1 - Why Would This Get Produced

0 - Dump the Bowl

Brief Overview of Reviewer’s General Tastes: I am primarily a VA (and it’s variant combination forms) smoker who has great affinity for SG and comparable EU manufactured blends, along with a few of the US micro blender shops. I do enjoy English/Balkan blends on occasion and a few very specific tobacco forward aromatics. I am exceptionally picky about blends and tend to cellar deep and narrow on things, reserving the bulk of my cellar planning and space for items I find to be of significant worth as far as taste and experience. Anything of quality, but not of obsessive value to me, is cellared and purchased as condimental flavor breaks between my regular rotation.

2 people found this review helpful.

JimInks Reviewed By DateRating StrengthFlavoringTasteRoom Note
JimInks (2495)
★★★☆
Mild to Medium Extremely Mild Mild to Medium Pleasant

A one dimensional bright Virginia flake with some citrus, grass, hay, acidity, and slight earth and wood notes. The strength, nic-hit and taste levels are a couple of steps past the mild mark. Won't bite, but fast puffing can make it a little warm to your tongue. An effortless experience that burns a little slow, and touch warm and dry with a very consistent grassy, citrusy, acidic taste that translates to the short lived after taste. Requires a few relights, and leaves little dampness in the bowl. An all day smoke that doesn't dull your tongue, and doesn't cost much. It also makes a very good mixer for home blending if you're so inclined. Currently made by Sutliff.

-JimInks

2 people found this review helpful.

Emeritus Account Reviewed By DateRating StrengthFlavoringTasteRoom Note
Emeritus Account (28797)
★★★☆
Medium None Detected Medium Pleasant

This blend is often sold under a "house" name by tobacconists. While the description says that this is "matured" tobacco, it isn't the most flavorful stuff you have ever tried right from the start. You can tell that this is mostly bright Virginias, and it has a nice sweetness and hay-like smell to it. But, it smokes hot, and is not especially exciting when new.

I aged some of this for about two years in a mason jar in my basement. It improved markedly. I would compare this to Peter Stokkebye's Luxury Twist Flake, but without the vanilla topping. The sweetness blossoms, the sharp edge and bite mellow significantly, and variation in flavors become evident. I have tried this with the addition of Perique, which richens the flavor, but I prefer this as a straightforward, unaltered bright Virginia.

2 people found this review helpful.