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Matured Virginias: No.22
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McClelland |
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McClelland Tobacco Company |
| Tin Description: |
A balanced blend of Eastern and Middle belt Virginias aged in cakes to develop their natural sweetness. A zesty tobacco with rich undertones, coarse enough to smoke on windy days outdoors, but easily rubbed-out to suit any occasion. |
| Country of Origin: |
US |
| Curing Group: |
Air Cured |
| Contents: |
Virginia
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| Cut: |
Broken Flake |
| Packaging: |
50g Tin, 100g Tin |
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Medium
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None detected
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| Taste: |
Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Recommendation: |
Recommended
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Showing reviews 21 through 32 of 32 reviews of this tobacco
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Blackhorse
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11/04/2003 |
Medium
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None detected
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Medium
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Tolerable
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| I plan to come back and fill in a bit more when I have more of the tin finished but thought I might note here that I had stumbled on a six year-old tin of No. 22 in a local shop. Opening revealed the flakes to be in excellent condition...many coated with a fine sugar dusting...or might this be bloom? At any rate it was easily rubbed to a coarse texture, put into a handy 2001 Peterson's 4th of July Dublin A4...and the result was close to heaven. Smooth, sweet, spicy, just a delight! It burned well with only a few re-lights to the bottom of the bowl...the flavor deepening as the bowl progressed. I need to go back and rummage around that shop more often!
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prison chaplain
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10/12/2003 |
Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| After reading several favorable reviews of #22 and 2010, I bought a tin of #22. I enjoyed it a great deal, enough to buy a pound of 2010, to which #22 is often compared. Having compared the two, #22 is a smoother, more refined smoke. My tongue starts to warm up quicker with the 2010. Room note is always a tricky one. I find the smoke from a good Virginia or Virginia/Perique very pleasant and satisfying. No. 22 also reminds me of a new blend from Bufflehead, Virginia Ruddy Duck. I like #22 enough to buy another tin in the future. With 2015 and 2010 available in bulk, those are my default tobaccos.
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Pipestud
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06/19/2003 |
Medium
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Medium
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Tolerable
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| Nimrod nailed it for me. Stinky, nasty stuff. And stogie is more of a man than I am for having gulped down a whole tin. One bowl was all I could manage, and that was a struggle.
Hot, smelly, rough and steamy. What's to like here?
Well, it did burn well.
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Stogie
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06/18/2003 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| As I load up my last remaining bowl of VA No.22 from McClelland, I feel I have done this tobacco proper service by smoking an entire tin before reviewing. (As I always do!). As a self-professed lover of VA Flakes, and one that finds most of the McClelland product divine, I was not nearly as impressed with this tobacco as I had hoped to be, or as most of the previous reviewers were. I purchased VA No. 22 along with tins of VA No. 24, St. James Woods and Dark Star, of which I will have reviews posted soon. This was my least favorite of the four.
Visual: A dark brown flake, with lots of yellow and gold streaks throughout. My tin contained mainly broken flake, no full "sheets".
Texture: As with most McClelland flakes, this one was just a little moist upon opening, but I like it that way. I let this tin get fairly dry over the three months that I took to get through it, and as it became dryer it lost that VA tang to a large extent. Even upon proper rehydration, the wonderful tanginess of VA never returned.
Pack/Pipe: I smoke this both partially rubbed and fully rubbed. Usually I preferred the latter. Gravity fed into a number of my VA pipes, (Ashton XX oldchurch and Pebblegrain pots, Nording freehands, Dunhill Redbark Poker etc...) This seemed to burn best with a light hand.No problems smoking this to bottom of the bowl with minimal relights.
Lighting/Burn: Two matches to char, one to light. Without fail, this tobacco needed a relight within the first third of the bowl, but then makes it almost to the bottom. Burns to bottom and leaves a white/grey ash with a few bits of charred tobacco.
1st 3rd: This tobacco is definitely most flavorful in this portion of the bowl. VA tang is here as well as a nice earthy sweetness. Smokes through this portion quickly and with nice mouthfuls of white smoke.
2nd 3rd: Burn rate slows down here. Smoke becomes a little cooler and flavor evens out to a natural VA taste with just a little tang. If it had more zip here I would rate this higher. Never needed additional matches in this portion.
Final 3rd: Have lost a lot of flavor here. Almost no VA tang at all, minimum smoke generation, and need stirred and relit with some frequency. Maybe I am tamping this too firmly, but evidently my consistency is amazing, because it happens every time!
Notes: Like all McClelland flakes, I have no issues with the quality. This just did not stack up to the benchmark set by St. James Woods and VA No.24 in my opinion.
Stogie rating of: 5 Fair Fonsecas
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Nimrod
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06/18/2003 |
Medium
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Medium
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| This is the second McC VA I have tried, and like the first one (Dark Star) this one annoys the hell out of me.
Like Dark Star, opening the tin is like opening a bottle of 99% acetic acid. The vinegar fumes are so strong they need to put a label on this warning you that it should only be opened in a chemlab inside a fume hood. This is just nuts... what the heck are they putting on this?
I let this thing dry out for several weeks with the top on and it still didn't loose enough of this vinegar smell/flavor. So finally I rubbed it all out to a broken flake consistency and let it dry for a few days with the top completely off. Finally it became smokable. However to be smokable this stuff needs to be bone dry. I don't like tobacco that has to be crispy-dry in order to be smokable and this whole vinegar issue really bugs me.
After all this trouble I'm rewarded with a mediocre virginia at best. A little sweet, a bit of spice, but I'd much rather have a tin of Patriot Flake than this
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SlowDraw
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02/19/2003 |
Medium
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Medium
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Tolerable
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| Overall & after smoking quite a few ounces of this stuff I would say that this & 2015 are my favourite Va flakes, 22 has that McClelland Venom & zest which splits pipesmokers in half- into love it or hate it camps that is. 22 has as much bite as the best of 'em, having it's share of yellow leaf- But if appreciated slowly you won't harm yourself( I've got a sensitive tongue but it won't bite me with proper technique) . Another thing about this blend is it's High range sweetness, you can't even detect it some smokes, other times you can. BUT when the moon is full.... ( joke..sorta) never boring though & as said before - outstanding with a few beers. * I've recently opened a 3 year old tin & in comparison to a younger tin there is more sweetness & toastiness but the bite-threshold seems about the same.
disclaimer: review updated & some liberties taken .
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pittacus
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04/03/2002 |
Mild to Medium
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None detected
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Mild to Medium
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Tolerable
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| For the lovers of VA's-- myself included-- a 'must try' blend as we make our way through the taste-gauntlet of the world's innumerable tobaks.
This is a good day starter, no shock to the system, no real surprises.
It is the lack of that certain something else that keeps this blend from receiving a higher rating.
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Noorrmm
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02/01/2002 |
Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Nicely cut orange-red flakes, neither too thin nor too heavy. Easy to rub out to any degree. Initial aroma is usual vinegar, but airing it out solves his, and allows thee tobacco to burn cooler and drier. The initial taste is a good sweet basic Va., with not much complexity. As it settles down, there are layers of flavor developing and playing with your palate. An excellent choice for an all-day virginia.
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Cooksmoke
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01/19/2002 |
Mild to Medium
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None detected
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Medium to Full
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| This is my first posted review. It is by no means my first tobacco, I just happen to be smoking it right now.
Virginia # 22 is typical of McClelland Virginias, full of red and dark stoved tobbaccos with small streaks of yellows.
The tin smell is that strange McClelland only aroma so often read of. But as time passes after the tin is opened, the zesty Virginia aroma shines through.
This tobacco, because of its flake cut, is ideal for a multipurpose tobacco. It is easily rubbed out for indoors smoking. It is equally up to the task of outdoor smoking.
The taste is one of spice and sweet. As I am a barbeque cook and cook alot outside with wood, I am most reminded of that aroma with this tobacco. Its taste is like the smell of good sauce on the coals, sweet yet tangy.
I recommend this for anyone who has a taste for the outdoors, spicy foods and honest Virginia
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sethg
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09/20/2001 |
Medium
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Medium
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Very Pleasant
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Virginia #22 arrives in 2-3 inch flakes, medium to dark brown, with lighter golden striping. As expected, the McClelland 'Heinz ketchup' odor is in full effect, though I don't find this off-putting. As of this review, I have smoked it fully rubbed-out, 'sausage-rolled', and cut, against the grain, into small squares. I have found the last to be the best preparation in terms of ease of lighting and coolness in smoking. (Occasionally, I use some aged 5100 as kindling to aid in lighting as well.) The flavor alternates between a subdued, toasted sweetness and a more astringent 'tobacco' flavor. I never find the nicotine presence to be overwhelming, but often notice it once I have finished the bowl. As others have noted, #22 has a tendency to bite enthusiastic puffers; some aging is sure to take care of such concerns.
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Inquisitor
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04/06/2001 |
Mild to Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Similar to, but more full-bodied than, McClelland #2010, this is a very unique, very American (in the good sense)bright Virginia blend. It is a pure-form tobacco, without flavoring, steaming, maturing, stoving, pressing or anything else that I could detect. It doesn't get fancy with red and black Virginias. It is simply a delicious, naturally sweet, zesty, tangy, toasty, refreshing, yellow/bright Virginia. It carries McClelland's signature ketchup/vinegar tin aroma proudly, plus a grassy, hay-like undercurrent. The room aroma is rich without being heavy or dark, lively but with substance. It goes without saying that something this bright and sweet can smoke hot unless slowly drawn, but for those who keep the rate down (or especially those who use the "Breath Smoking Technique"), the smoking experience is magical. The lemon-y zest keeps you honest! Only #2010 comes close in character (I find the often-compared Ashton Brindle Flake to be distinct from #22). In summary, the top range is the distinguishing feature of this blend, but is nicely supported by a toasty mid-range that grows richer and more predominant as the bowl progresses, in a wonderful way. The bass range exists more as a side-effect of the mid-range, and some might find this to be a distinct disadvantage. I don't, because the rest of the blend was so engrossing that I didn't notice the lack of lower tones until I actively began to look for them. If you are in the mood for a snappy, flavorful, tantalizing smoke, McClelland #22 is for you.
(PS - A year of aging puts this into another universe, increasing the rich, smooth & sweet elements while decreasing the bite danger.)
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Sceny
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03/26/2001 |
Medium
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Mild
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Medium to Full
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Tolerable
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| Vinegar, anyone? This being the first McClelland Virginia I ever tried, I was somewhat surprised at the odor that greeted me when I popped the top of the can. As another reviewer has mentioned, it's an odor that one either loves or hates. Some say it smells like ketchup; have any of you eaten any recently? Exactly what have you been smoking?? Ketchup isn't even close! Oh well, each person's tastes are different; that's what makes life interesting :-). Personally, I like the smell, and it doesn't come through in the tobacco's flavor at all. This blend comes in medium to large flakes, dark brown with veins of lighter, yellowish-brown running through them. They are a little moist, but rub out easily and pack well. Once rubbed out, they light easily, though this blend seems to require more relights then average once into the bowl. I usually smoke this blend in a very large-bowled Savinelli estate billiard, with a tobacco chamber diameter of about 1.5 inches. If I need to stop partway through the bowl due to tongue bite, I can rest and pick up the pipe again with no loss of flavor. The first third of the bowl is sweet, especially if smoked slowly. Actually, slowly is the only way you CAN smoke this tobacco, unless you *enjoy* crisped tongue and mouth. To avoid the bite, I find I need to puff carefully, barely getting anything from the stem at all. This certainly contributes to multiple relights, but it also is where this blend shines. The light puffs deliver a sweet, flavorful smoke that makes the effort worthwhile. As the bowl moves into its second 1/3, the flavor becomes more rich and complex, though the sweetness stays present. Toward the last third, the sweetness and richness merge somewhat, forming a complex and satisfying flavor that has an even greater tendency to bite. Care is needed! Also toward the end, some moisture is present, and it may be necessary to run a pipe cleaner down the stem of the pipe. Unlike Latakia mixes, going back to a bowl later on does not adversely effect the tobacco's taste. This is fortunate, because frequently it will take three sessions to smoke a large bowl of this blend. Overall, this is a pleasant smoke that requires time for careful concentration for full enjoyment. While not my favorite McClelland Virginia, it is nice as a change of pace, when I'm in a sweet Virginia mood. In addition, I believe that leaving the tin open for a couple weeks may help to solve the moisture problem; more results to come.
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