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Bulk No.2050 Oriental Cavendish Mix
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McClelland |
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McClelland Tobacco Company |
| Tin Description: |
This is an unusual mixture, because it contains no Latakia, yet still has the round, rich flavor one would expect from this style of tobacco. Liberal quantities of Orientals and a special Virginia Cavendish made with Eastern Belt Carolina leaf combine with Black Cavendish to make this a tobacco that will satisfy a great variety of tastes. |
| Country of Origin: |
US |
| Curing Group: |
Air Cured |
| Contents: |
Cavendish
Black Cavendish
Virginia
Oriental
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| Cut: |
Ribbon |
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Bulk |
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Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Recommendation: |
Somewhat Recommended
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Smoke_Ring
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05/02/2013 |
Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| McCelland Bulk No. 2050 - Oriental Cavendish
Star Rating = 4
Rating Scores - 10 is the Best and 0 is the Worst
Pouch Note = 8
Room Note = 8
Flavor = 8
Bite = 8
Burn = 8
After Taste = 8
Raw Score =48
Rated Percentage = 80%
Comment = Smooth, Mild, good Flavor, a little zesty but not overpowering
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rramstad
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05/18/2011 |
Mild
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Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| I don't like sweetened black Cavendish for the most part, and in this particular blend, it sticks out like a sore thumb. The other components seem nice, but the Cavendish overwhelms them and makes it a sticky vanilla mess. It does not bite, though, and so for that, and the quality of the other components, I'll give it two stars. Tends to be very wet in the bag, takes a long time to dry out, and IMHO isn't smokeable without drying.
Update: Once it (finally) dries out a bit, it isn't as goopy, and the vanilla is still strong without being totally outrageous. Frankly to me, a weird blend, with the spicy nature of the orientals being almost entirely masked by the sweet Cavendish.
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LeFlaneur
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07/15/2010 |
Mild
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Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| I got this in a McClelland sampler.
At first sniff I get a bit of vanilla and cloves. Upon lighting I find are very agreeable blend of flavors going on, with less of an aromatic quality than I expected at first whiff. The casings are there but the orientals come through with a mustiness that I like. I know, musty doesn't sound good but there it is. There's plenty of sweetness from some VAs and the cavendish, and a somewhat creamy feel. Bit of a baked good thing going on.
Is it an aromatic? Well, When it's called "cavendish," I sort of expect something along those lines. As such, if I'm not careful I can get it gurgling and a wet bowl at the end -- seems to depend a bit on the pipe I use. But it hasn't bitten me. This is definitely not like a drug store blend that smells like candy and tastes like dookie.
Furthermore, faulting it for not having latakia is like faulting rum for not being whiskey. That said, I could see adding a bit of Cyprian to the mixture for a touch of depth and smokiness.
Purists will definitely be repulsed by this heretical blend. Me, I'm too uncultured to know any better, so I just go ahead and enjoy this tasty tobacco.
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DeadMensPipes
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02/23/2010 |
Mild to Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant
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| Satisfying, anytime smoke. Good with a morning cup of coffee. This would be an excellent "crossover" blend for an aromatic smoker wanting to switch to "English" or an English smoker wanting something to enjoy in mixed company. The lack of latakia means a pleasant, not cloying, room note and a smoothe, less spicy palate. It seems very moist in the bag, but burns nicely with few re-lights. No bite at all. The last few puffs, if you smoke all the way to the bottom, can be a little harsh, and you will scorch your briar, as I did, if you are not careful - but otherwise, a solid three-stars.
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Tallman
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09/06/2009 |
Mild
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Mild
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Mild
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Pleasant
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| I bought this in bulk back in April and it's been waiting on me to get back to it. I don't have much to add to the reviews of my esteemed fellow puffers...this is a good smoke! I enjoyed it from top of bowl to bottom. Burns clean, no goop...it's not my every day choice, but I will smoke it more often than I have previously!
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PipenGuitar
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08/07/2009 |
Extremely Mild
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Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant
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| I like the way this blend reminds me of Frog Morton Across the Pond. It's not as flavorful or as English-y but it's good enough to try. I don't think it's anywhere near as bad a drug store blend. Those leave horrible, horrible things in your pipe. This blend didn't leave much; just a bit of excess moisture. I suppose if one would smoke this out of a freshly opened bulk bag then perhaps it would leave some gunk. My 2 ounces came from an opened and almost empty bag which probably helped dry out the blend a bit.
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Johnny River
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05/17/2009 |
Mild
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Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| I had this cellaring for a year or so and got into it today. The smell to me is anise like. The cut is like most of the McClelland Orientals - a little rough cut that needs only a minor rub. The quality of the tobacco is good but the taste is rather monochromatic throughout the bowl. It tastes like it smells. Nothing grand here and if you don't like the smell (again, I think it is anise) you probably won't like the taste.
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DK
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12/19/2008 |
Very Mild
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Very Mild
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Mild
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Very Pleasant
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| MINOR UPDATE 3/13/09
I smoked a bowl of this tonight and noticed something new. I finished and left the room for about half an hour. Upon returning, the remnants of the room aroma (still very noticeable) was decidedly Oriental rather than black cavendish aromatic in nature. Oh, and the oriental becomes more noticeable in the taste with a bit of drying out before smoking. Like many of the finest blends, it changes its character somewhat with some drying. Less "cased" aromatic and more oriental aromatic. Enjoy!
ORIGINAL REVIEW 12/19/08
The emphasis on the blend is "cavendish". It is an aromatic. Thankfully, it uses high quality leaf and is low in casing so it's not the goopy, wet smoke that aromatics often are. The oriental comes through as a wisp at various times but it is mostly the black cavendish that comes through, made lighter tasting by the virginia.
This is an aromatic for people who don't like aromatics. Light and lightly sweet, nice room and pouch aroma. Not high on flavor or terribly interesting as a nice VaPer would be, this tobacco is what it is and ain't what it ain't. This will certainly not be my all day smoke but it is probably the best quality aromatic I have ever smoked, and will be a continual if occasional companion.
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Toytruck
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07/16/2008 |
Mild to Medium
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Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Very Pleasant
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| After reading the other reviews it seems that many are reviewing this tobacco for what it is not rather than what it is. It is not a latakia blend and should not be downgraded for that. It is a mildly flavored oriental blend. It has a sweet flavor and aroma with hints of vanilla. I had received this a while back as part of a sampler package and avoided it because of many of the reviews. That was my loss. One evening a couple of weeks ago I decided to give it a try and was pleasantly surprised. This is not a drug store aromatic that leaves an artificial taste in your mouth. It is quality tobacco with a lightly sweet flavoring which does not overpower the taste of the oriental tobaccos. It also leaves a very nice aroma in the room that is most noticeable when you leave the room and return. I am leaning more toward this for an in-the-house smoke due to its very pleasing smell. This is not my favorite tobacco. (That would be McClelland's 2040 Cyprian Blend.) But it is a nice change of pace for a sweeter flavor and a pleasant aroma.
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Dov of the Galilee
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06/22/2008 |
Mild
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Mild
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Mild
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Pleasant
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| This here blend is one that I could live with if I was stuck with only this one for the rest of my life! It has everything an all day smoke should have- long lasting flavor with out the bite or heavy odor, good burning and easily acquired. Many pipe shops carry this and put their own label on it so if interested ask for it by the mfg. number.
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Big bad Jon
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06/28/2007 |
Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Mild
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| This blend is a nice Oriental flavor but is missing something, LATAKIA. The predominate flavors are of the Cavendish tobaccos but the Orientals shine thru from time to time. The VA. tobaccos make the blend sweet but I miss the smoky taste found in Latakia blended orientals.
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speckchaser
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03/16/2007 |
Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| For those looking for a mild everyday Tobacco I believe ths is it.Not as cloying as some of the other aromatics that McClelland produces but a simple blend that can be smoked all day.There is a slight sweetness that complments the Virginias from Black Cavendish.The Orientals are not in your face but weaves in and out as you go through a bowl. The blend did appear a little wet at first but a few hours of drying time eliminated that.Did not burn hot in any size bowl that I tried,however the larger bowls produced a little bit more residual juiceso have a pipe cleaner standingby. The aroma was aromatic almost like an Asian ginger.The main sniffers,my wife and two daughters did not complain of the aroma,so it passed the in the house test.
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constantsmoker
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12/11/2006 |
Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Mild
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Pleasant
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| You can't hit a home run every time, but this blend is not as bad as described elsewhere. The pouch aroma was a subtle lemony/spicey fragrance. Predominantly black Cavendish and Virgina, the Orientals do make their presence known, although faintly. The blend lights easily, burns evenly and doesn't bite the tongue. Room note was pleasant. In comparison to McClelland's other 2000 series bulk blends, 2050 comes up short, and perhaps its the absence of Latakia that disappoints. In any event, it's worth a try.
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Spike
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11/27/2006 |
Mild
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Very Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Tolerable
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| 09/26/2004: A good flavored Oriental with too little punch to hold one's interest. Have used it to tone down other tobaccos that I find too flavored. Would probably make a good mix with a strong Virginia-Perique Blend.
11/27/2006 Update: The only one in this series I couldn't warm up to.
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lensman
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11/13/2006 |
Mild
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Medium
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Mild
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| I had to double-check that I was actually smoking a McClelland product once I began puffing on this blend. I cannot understand why such an esteemed tobacco company would place its name on this drugstore mix.
2050 is all about that black Cavendish stuff -- sticky sweet in an unpleasant way -- with the Oriental making a cameo appearance. What Oriental is present finds itself in undeserving company. This blend is a bad idea, and poorly executed. Thankfully I bought only two ounces -- yet I've no idea what I'm going to do with it.
A waste of time and money, and I cannot recommend it to anybody. McClelland sorely disappointed me, and for the first time.
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Black Dog
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04/27/2006 |
Mild
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Mild
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Mild
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| As others have said, this tobacco is only a short step from your typical drugstore cavendish. Cavendish, VA, Oriental, "raisiny" smelling topping. I have an 8 oz bag which I will smoke through, but won't buy more. There is nothing remarkable about this either good or bad, but with so many other fine tobaccos available, there's no reason to buy more.
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huffnpuff
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02/21/2006 |
Mild
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Tolerable
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| I got this at an ounce .Im glad i did not buy more.2050 is rather weird at first light the orientals peaked out then slowly goes dowm to a the more cavendish taste . For me the best part of this smoke session was in the middle of the bowl and after before it starts tasting ashy. My wife did not like this to much but tolerated it. the scent is a head scratcher I cant place the smell.but it is 50/50 for me. I will go on to find more tobaccs.
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Rusty
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05/17/2005 |
Mild
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Medium
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Mild
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Tolerable
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| I was attracted to sampling this blend based on its description. Unfortunately, I was disappointed. On arrival, my purchase was over-moist by a long shot, and even after a whole day of drying remained rather sticky and gooey. Too much PG, maybe? The pouch aroma was also unusual, and not too pleasant. Sort of like a fermented prune juice. It's an easy smoke, no bite or harshness, but otherwise just another variety of the ubiquitous black cav aromatic with a sweet and somewhat cloying room aroma. From my perspective, not one I could recommend.
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Darth 69
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02/06/2005 |
Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| I was a little suprised as to what this blend was really like as compared to it's label description. I thought it would be something like the green label line but without the latakia, boy was I wrong. This is more in the class like the China Black blends, a base of moist black generic-like cavendish with some oriental blended in. I was initially disspointed but have found some merit with this. There is some of that vinegary tang in the pouch aroma, characteristically McClelland which may be thier choice of preservative and anti-fungal agent as opposed to something like propylene glycol. This vinegary tang along with it's spicy herbal oriental componet produces an interesting aroma like cedar spice. I have grown to like this the more I smoke this but would be better if the black cavendished was replaced with a all virginia loose leaf stoved/cavendish base perhaps with a slight flavoring similar to the black cav.(light vanilla?) but drier. Captain Black smokers and the like might like this one as a change of pace thats' not to far off thier beaten path.
-Cautiously recommended
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Noorrmm
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04/28/2004 |
Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant
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| Why McClelleand calls this an Oriental mixture is beyond me. The pouch aroma is decidely that of an aromatic, neither particularly light nor heavy. Part of the aroma is vanilla, the rest eludes me. The flavor is a hybrid, Virginia with some milder Oriental (Basma or Smyrna perhaps) and a goodly dose of flavoring. Whether the addition is cased into the Cavendish, or addded as a topping is beyond my capability to determine, nor do I care to persue it. For me, not worth finishing the trial package.
On the plus side, for those looking for an upgrade from drugstore aromatics, this would be a good choice, as it burns cleanly, fairly dry and cool. The pipe remains clean, and very little aroma lingers.
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