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Bob's Chocolate Flake

Brand: Gawith, Hoggarth & Co.
Tin Description: The main characteristics of this flake come from the 8% Latakia included in the blend and the smooth chocolate aroma. Brazilian, Zimbabwe, Malawi virginia leaf make up 82% of the blend providing a mild/Medium smoke cooled with the addition of 8% Malawi sun cured and 2% Malawi Burley. The latakia cools but does also add strength and aroma. The cocoa casings and chocolate top flavours are rounded off with vanillas and other flavours providing sweet notes.
Country of Origin: UK
Curing Group: Air Cured
Contents:
Burley
Virginia
Latakia
Flavoring:
Whisky
Cocoa / Chocolate
Cut: Flake
Packaging: 50g Tin, Bulk

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Average Ratings
Strength: Medium
Flavoring: Mild to Medium
Taste: Medium
Room Note: Pleasant to Tolerable
Recommendation: Recommended


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rattdogg 03/16/2011 Mild to Medium Mild to Medium Mild to Medium Pleasant to Tolerable highly recommended
I love BCF! I want to be up front about that. I've smoked it for many years and will continue to do do for as long as it's made. I've gone through many tobaccos in the past thirty five years. I smoked several for years and one day find that my taste has changed or the tobacco has. Either way that blend goes by the wayside. BCF has remained a constant with me. I love that slight floral taste or possibly smell combined with the light cocoa taste in the background. I cannot detect the Latakia but all the tobaccos used blend to make one very smooth smoke. Ladies and gentlemen this is what pipe tobacco is supposed to tast like! At least in my opinion. It's good anytime of day in anysize pipe but i really love it with that first cup of morning coffee. Excellent!


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CLRV 03/04/2011 Mild to Medium Mild Mild to Medium Very Pleasant highly recommended
Love it. First time a tobacco smell has translated (truly) into flavor for me.

Will always have a pound of this around.

Update:

So I've had time to really let this blend sink in. I've smoked well over 1/2 pound in the past month or so and given samples to a few of my close buddies.

This really is a sublime tobacco. From start to finish the experience is quite exquisite.

The pouch aroma is, well, chocolate. Deep rich and dark. It packs well and easily. It's a relatively cool burner, so you can really pack it in there and puff away for hours. I tend to do a combo of fold and stuff topped on the upper third with fully rubbed out. Lets it get really cooking without the risk of overpuffing a straight flake.

The flavor does transfer a huge amount from smell in bag to taste on tongue. Except the smoke itself is far far more complex. If you really sip it it turns almost into a chocolate liquor flavor. I can't really find the vanilla taste, but that may be because chocolate and vanilla are so integral to each other as far as taste components. The lakeland is there, but not in huge quantities. I love lakeland myself, but those who don't will probably not like Bob's.

As an aside, I played mad scientist one day and made up a small batch of 50/50 Bob's Chocolate and Ten Russians. It's actually amazingly good. The heavy latakia upping of Ten Russians turns this from a dessert smoke to a Holy Duo. Almost a coffee and chocolate sensation. Russian Chocolate, Tundra Mocha, whatever.

So, in closing, try this tobacco. You really need to.


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Pipedreamz 02/15/2011 Mild Extremely Mild Mild to Medium Pleasant to Tolerable highly recommended
Oh yea, daddy like


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Gilthoniel 02/14/2011 Medium to Strong Mild to Medium Medium to Full Pleasant highly recommended
I tried an ounce each of Bob's, Lousisina Perique and Ennerdale Flake to see what GH is all about. Personally, Bob's Chocolate Flake was the clear winner.

In the packet, it smelled very strongly of latakia to me, but others have said they didn't notice it. Maybe my nose is sensitive to it.

Lighting up, it tasted like strong dark chocolate. By mid-bowl I could taste the latakia, which really helped add body to the sweetness of the Virginia and the topping. A complex smoke that gives you a lot to think about.

I was hoping it would be a stronger and richer version of Mac Baren's Navy Flake, and for once I pretty much got my wish. I'll be getting a pound of this in very soon, I suspect.


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Colin Rigsby 12/03/2010 Mild to Medium Extremely Mild Mild to Medium Pleasant to Tolerable highly recommended
A great crossover aromatic blend. Not really an aromatic with plenty of tobacco flavor - a nice chocolate aroma mostly in the unburned form. A dark rich flake that looks good enough to eat!

Let it dry a bit before folding and stuffing or rub out completely - the taste is different depending on the method.

Latakia? Well just a tade, noticable at first but dwendles as it burns. VA all the way and a smooth VA, not tangy.

A good all around smoke.


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Unsal 10/11/2010 Medium Mild to Medium Medium Pleasant highly recommended
An excellent tobacco. Highly Recommended.


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hawky454 09/10/2010 Very Mild Medium to Strong Overwhelming Unnoticeable not recommended
To me, the soapy/floral note distracted from the chocolate undertones. Too much going on here, it's overdone and unbalanced. Be careful, this will leave a nasty residual flavor in your pipe that takes several smokes to get rid of.


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The Commoner 04/02/2010 Medium Mild to Medium Medium to Full Pleasant highly recommended
Well then, this was a smoking life changer. I shied away for awhile because of the "chocolate" in the name.

I don't mean to get all hyperbolic on ya'll but this is simply the best damned thing I ever smoked. I have just bought several lbs to sock away.

Tin: Or in my case baggie as I bought in bulk. Mmmmmmmm. Nuff said.

Loading: Excellent A tad wet. I rub it out and dry for a few minutes, or longer if it's humid. No issues. Typical flake. Then air pocket in a avg. 3/4 X 1.5"+ bowl.

Light and Burning: Top notch. Char it. Light tamp. Fire it up and off you go. A few relights but I always have a few.

Taste: Flavor: Omagod. Wow this is some good stuff. Just a hint of Lakeland on the char. Then it's really good tobacco flavor with a nice rounding of sweetness. This ain't Hershey's folks so don't be concerned about the chocolate. In no way "aromatic". But it's not some sort of stiff lipped "English Blend" either. There's some latakia there but it only sings back up. You gotta try it to understand.

Bite: Not one bit of bite for me and I'm a little bite prone. Zero and I do mean zero.

Room Note: Must be OK the wife doesn't flee.

General Comments: If you haven't tried this invest 5 bucks and get an ounce in bulk. I think nearly any pipe smoker will find something to like here whether you're one of those cherry jubilee, whip cream mocha surprise types, a latakia reeking English Blender, a Virginia sipping "sophisticate" or even a good old codger burley drugstore cowboy.


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Xeneize 02/19/2010 Medium to Strong Mild to Medium Medium to Full Pleasant to Tolerable recommended
I've read many comparisons between this blen and Samuel Gawith Chocolate Flake, but the only similarity I've found is the subtle taste of Latakia in the background and the very mild chocolate flavoring. Other than that, Bob's Chocolate Flake share the soapy taste with most Lakelands tobaccos, while there's none of that in SG's product, where the Virginias are less "processed".

Which one I prefer? Depends on the moment. Bob's when I'm in the mood for Lakelands, SG's when I'd rather have an "American English". They're both great tobaccos.


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Carlyle 02/06/2010 Medium Mild to Medium Medium Pleasant highly recommended
I first tried this tobacco about twenty years ago, as a transition away from the syrupy, burley-based aromatics that I was buying in bulk as a novice pipe smoker. Since that time, I have sampled a wide array of traditional Virginia and English tobaccos, many of them recommended as four star choices on this site. I came back to BCF in a moment of nostalgia, and I think it holds up to those highly recommended tobaccos remarkably well.

Granted, BCF does have a strange flavor profile, which some have described as confused or muddled. I can see why, though I think that the layering of flavors works to produce a really unique smoke. If you have zero tolerance for the Lakeland floral elements, then avoid this flake because the Lakeland notes are certainly there, particularly at the bowl's beginning. Words like "perfumy" and "soapy" overstate the case in my opinion. Once the bowl gets burning, the florals sweeten the smoke, but I don't think they dominate the experience.

In fact, I've found that I can choose to ignore them, if I like; and really, that's true of the other constituent tobaccos/flavors in this blend. Sweet Virginia is always undeniably present, but I find that I can taste a really remarkable range of flavors if I am mindful of the smoke.

I think this a great tobacco for aromatic smokers who want to transition into better quality tobaccos that still retain a sense of aromatic sweetness. Virginia lovers will not be disappointed, given the forward presence of those flavors throughout the smoke. Even those preferential to the latakia English blends will find enough smokiness here to satisfy.

I'd recommend drying the tobacco thoroughly to balance the flavors. It seems to mute the floral notes and brings them into parity with the other flavors.

Smokes best in meerschaum.


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JLong 12/20/2009 Medium Mild Medium Tolerable recommended
I like this tobacco. It is spicy with a chocolatey tang and some floral sweetness to it. I let it dry out over night and plug a medium size billard after some rubbing out and folding of the flakes. I think I like SG Chocolate flake a tad better but it really depends on what my palette is in the mood for.


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DK 11/23/2009 Medium Mild to Medium Mild to Medium Pleasant somewhat recommended
I, too, struggled with this blend. Trying to do too much is often not a good thing, and I can only categorize this tobacco as an attempt to bridge smokers of widely varying tobacco styles. The latakia was unnecessary but what I found the most offputting was the Lakeland florals. Sorry to be so trite but it tasted like soap to me for the first third of the bowl - like I had sucked on a dryer sheet.

I got the strong impression that without the florals and the latakia, this would be a very strong offering from G&H. But then it wouldn't be Bob's Chocolate Flake, would it?

All in all, I found this to be a blend of high quality tobaccos blended to a somewhat tragic end. It's something I think most people should try, however, as there seems to be differing opinions - and strong ones on both sides.


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ProfessorShak 09/17/2009 Medium Medium to Strong Medium Tolerable to Strong not recommended
This is supposed to be an aromatic but to me, the latakia throws it off. It's like putting BBQ sauce on, well a chocalate cake. Even a touch ruins the experience, and to me the experience wasn't that pleasant at all and I gave it a couple of tries. I ended up giving the rest away. Others may like it, but I like aromatics as much as I like english/balkan/oriental blends and I feel that an aromatic should be without latakia, even if it's a pinch.


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doc'spipe 07/29/2009 Medium Mild to Medium Mild to Medium Pleasant recommended
I have wanted to try GHs Bob's Chocolate Flake and SGs Chocolate Flake for a good while now. Well, for starters I went with Bob's Chocolate Flake. The tin aroma was definitely perfumy - which was tolerable before I lit it up. The initial light was all soap; as if I put a bar of Ivory into my mouth! Not pleasant whatsoever. I persevered and found the "Lakeland essence" never diminished. Occasionally, I got hints of chocolate - very minimal, however. The overall tobacco flavor was too hidden by the lakeland florals for me to taste and enjoy. The blend seemed to be overpowered by this Lakeland presence, and I didn't enjoy it at all. 1 star.

UPDATE 4-20-10: How time and aging change things! I let this one sit in its tin since my original review and 1 star rating, and decided to re-try it. Well, there was still the presence of soap in the tin, but much less than previous. Lighting produced a much fainter soap presence than previous which stayed very much in the background and fading nearly to nil by bowl's end. I was actually able to taste and enjoy the tobacco flavor - a mix of good tobacco and chocolate. I couldn't, however, taste the Latakia which was not off-putting in the least. I knew it was there by the way Latakia always nips at my tongue in a very unique way for me. A very nice background sweetness and flavor was the final reward (like chocolate milk). I now can appreciate all of the 3-4 star reviews of this blend. I will re-visit from time to time, but if I ever get through my tin and order more, I'll need to open it and let some of that Lakeland presence dissipate off long before smoking.

UPDATE 3-16-13: After smoking a good amount of GH Rum Flake, Brown Flake Scented and Unscented, I truly have come to love the Lakeland flavor. A recent revisit to Bob's Chocolate Flake was very pleasurable, but since I am not a big fan of Latakia, this will hold to 3 stars for me.


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rodrigo 07/13/2009 Mild Very Mild Mild to Medium Pleasant highly recommended
Esta mezcla fue una de las 2 primeras con las que me inicié en el mundo del tabaco de pipa de calidad, junto con Frog Morton de McClelland, adquiridas por internet a un muy buen precio comparado a lo que suelen cobrar en mi pais por este tipo de tabaco...si es que lo encuentras...Antes de ellas solo habia probado Amphora Full Aroma y una bolsa de un aromatizado de Mc Baren, pesimamente conservado de una pseudotabaqueria de Viña del Mar. Por lo que pasar a degustar un tabaco en lata sellado al vacio y de magnifica conservacion y humedad, fue estar en otro mundo. De modo que mi buena impresion de esta labor, bien puede estar sesgada por estos factores. Ahora,3 años mas tarde y habiendo probado diversas otras mezclas de variadas marcas de renombre, la retrospectiva de Bob's Chocolate Flake sigue siendo mas que favorable. La fuerza nicotinica me pareció suave pues como muchos compañeros pipafumadores vengo del mundo de los cigarros puros,algunos verdaderamente fuertes.El aroma a vainilla y chocolate en su medida justa.Pica poco y enciende bien dependiendo como cargues la pipa(a mi me gusta desmenuzado). Wife rating? luego de oler el aroma mi esposa se interesó en fumar pipa!! Buen tabaco, buen sabor, buen aroma, sobre todo para empezar este bello hobbie (no vicio) Altamente recomendado. Saludos, Rodrigo


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eamonclever 06/26/2009 Medium Medium Very Full Pleasant highly recommended
if you like cadbury hot chocolate drinks you certainly love this tobacco as well. I like this good amount of cocoa very much although I don´t eat cho olate bars at all. I bought the bulk version of this fine baccy. The smell of it forced me to load a bowl right away after opening the box. And yes, there is the good taste again, cocoa and good va wonderful. It is satisfactory and imo this is not an aromatic. BCF is naturally sweet due to the high amount of va, i don´t think there is sugar added - it is pure. Burley and a spray of latakia makes the mixture perfect for a pleasant longtime smoke in a medium or large bowl. I detect a slight lakeland flavouring, I love this fresh note in a couple of dark flake tobaccos like BBF#2 for instance. It makes the difference compared to others and that´s what counts for me to be a good smoke. BCF is perfectly composed for all va lovers who like a change of pace or enjoy a good strong espresso without sugar or milk some times a day.


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JohnnyD 05/15/2009 Medium Mild to Medium Medium Very Pleasant highly recommended
Bob's Chocolate Flake is a phenomenal tobacco. To my taste, the constituent tobaccos are as present in the overall flavor as are the chocolate, vanilla and floral natural casings. However, the floral component (what some refer to as soapy) is more pronounced for the first few puffs. The natural sweetness of the Virginia comes through as well, especially with aging. The more you let BCF age, it takes on a very nice leathery taste. I can also detect the smokiness of the 8% Latakia, but it is as subtle as the other flavors in the blend. These components all combine to form a rich, spicy, semi-sweet smoke with a room note that those around me like.

I've been smoking Bob's Chocolate Flake for about 12 years. In the past I mostly smoked heavy Latakia English blends. However, I tried BCF because I wanted a blend that smelled pleasing to the non-smokers around me and still had a substantial tobacco flavor. For the last 4 years BCF has been my mainstay blend and I smoke it almost exclusively. However, my initial experience was with BCF was pretty inconsistent. Sometimes it seemed to be a terrific smoke and at other times it was just harsh and horrible. I think that I've experienced just about every positive and negative characteristic mentioned in previous reviews. However, over the years I learned how to prepare and smoke BCF in a way that works for me. I think there are 3 critical factors that bring the most out of BCF: Packing, Puffing, and Patience.

I've experimented with lots of methods for packing BCF. These include rubbing out the flake to varying degrees, chopping the flake into small squares, as well as folding and stuffing the whole flake into the bowl. However, there is yet another quick and easy method that really makes BCF sing. I take a whole flake and fold it long-ways 3 or 4 times on itself so that the flake is folded into a skinner and thicker strip that is the same length that you started with. Then I put one end of the folded strip into my pipe bowl and use my thumb and forefinger to measure the length slightly shorter than the depth of the bowl. I tear off the end of the strip at this measurement and lay that piece onto the remaining strip and tear off another section to the same length and repeat until I get to the end of the strip. I usually get about 3 of these smaller lengths out of a single 6-inch flake. Then I place the smaller strips together as a bundle into the bowl so that the smaller lengths are standing straight up next to each other in the bowl. You want a loose fit, so just remove 1 or 2 of the strips of flake if the bundle is too tight in the bowl. This allows you to experience the benefits of the flake (dense, full flavor) while allowing sufficient air flow in the bowl. It takes a lot of words to explain this method, but once you try it I think you will find it straightforward, quick and easy.

As far as puffing goes, you just want to avoid smoking too fast and getting the bowl too hot. Some blends are pretty forgiving when smoked hot, but not BCF. When BFC gets too hot it can change from a wonderful smoke to nasty and bitter tasting.

I mention patience for a couple of reasons. First, I have found that BCF mellows and changes remarkably with at least 6-months of aging. Frankly, fresh BCF right out of the box can be quite harsh. Since BCF is comprised mostly of Virginia tobacco, it ages wonderfully. I usually try to smoke BCF that has aged for at least a year. I have smoked 4-year aged BCF that was just fantastic. I buy BCF in the 500 gm bulk packages (about half the price of the tinned packaging) and simply place it in a glass, clamp-top jar with a rubber seal. I like the tall 2-liter size jars since the long 6-inch flakes can simply be stood on end, intact, in the jar. You can also use tall ring-top Ball jars. This preserves the integrity of the flakes so that you can use the packing method described above.

A final note regarding patience is that you will find that there will be a slight variance from batch to batch in the flavor, thickness of the flakes, strength, etc. However, the differences are small and, for me at least, serve to keep BCF an interesting blend to smoke.

Bob's Chocolate Flake is a blend that you should try at least once. If you've tried it in the past and found it disappointing, then I would encourage you let some age for a few months and give it another go using the packing technique described above - you might be pleasantly surprised.


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augiegus 04/11/2009 Mild to Medium Mild to Medium Mild to Medium Tolerable recommended
I found this all black tobacco very agreeable to my tastes. I am a rather lazy fellow so rubbed out my entire bulk purchase at one sitting and bagged it for later smokes. I loaded my rubbed out flake and hit it with the match. I tasted lakeland floral flavors and sorta did not care for it in this blend, but with time (not much) they went away and the chocolate/tobacco flavor came through. I found this to continue though the entire bowl and gave a comforting relaxing feel to my smoke. It never burns my mouth and behaves well all the way to the bottom of the bowl. I did not notice the latakia which is sorta good thing for me and left me wondering how do they do that? I suppose this is not their first attempt at blending.


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MadMarv 03/26/2009 Medium Mild to Medium Medium to Full Pleasant to Tolerable highly recommended
OK, for the first time in 30+ years I've crossed the line. I admit it. This is an aromatic - and I LIKE IT! That's a big admission for me. Now, I've enjoyed a few topped tobaccos such as C&D's Epiphany, but this one to me is a real aromatic. It is just so well done you hardly notice.

I've been wanting to try some Lakeland flakes for some time, but knew from past experience that the straight VA's leave me wanting more. And I rarely have liked anything without at least some latakia, but still with summer coming on I didn't want a full tilt English. I love chocolate, so--

Beautiful flake presentation, a little moist. I let the tin sit, loosely covered, overnight, and was ready to go. Loosely packed a GBD Prehistoric XL bent with the fold and stuff method. A charring light, then away we went. Was immediately impressed with the amount of smoke, and the velvety mouthfeel - an important feature to me. Taste was only a little sweet, and very rich.

If it was only the chocolate I wanted I'd be disappointed. There's very little in the smoke, maybe a little more vanilla evident. But underneath that and the distinctive (and entirely pleasant, in this blend) Lakeland note there is a wonderful, rich, dark, and cool smoke. I can pick out the burley if I try, and the latakia, but that would be like isolating the trumpets playing in a full orchestra - the whole is so much better. This is definitely a keeper, and I can't wait to see what it'll be like after aging. Four out of four stars, and worth every penny.


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kg0mz 02/18/2009 Medium Mild to Medium Medium Pleasant recommended
This bulk flake, you can fold it or just wad it up. A little loose kindling on top and it lights very easily and burns like a charm. I think I prefer it like that rather than rubbing it out. It burns cool as bare feet on a concrete floor. A chocolate note is unmistakable at first then takes a back seat. From that point on it gets very interesting. Baby powder, incense, all those things that others loathe about this flake are present, but to me not overpowering or dominating. I don't think powder or incense describe what I taste, but other words don't come to mind right now. The tobaccos are all there, the VA, the Burley, and the Latakia. There are aromas, but I don't think this smokes like an aromatic. I say brilliant!

07/27/09 UPDATE: I am revising some of my reviews. I have given out more 4 star ratings than anything else. That practice is probably not helping. So, I am reducing BCF to 3 stars, not because I like it less than I did before, but because I am limiting 4 stars to fewer than 25% of all my reviews. One day I may use the 4 star rating to designate my top five.


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