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Black Irish X Unsliced
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Gawith, Hoggarth & Co. |
| Tin Description: |
All our twist tobacco varieties are manufactured by the same spinning process using dark fired wrapper leaves. The filler is again, predominantly dark fired leaf with the addition of a small percentage of dark air cured Indian leaf. They are therefore strong tobaccos. Black Twist, because the cooking process removes some of the stronger tar and nicotine elements, provides a milder smoke than the brown twist.
Kendal Twist - The traditional strong smoking & chewing tobacco, provides a very strong but remarkable cool smoke. Unsuitable for the beginner. The sweetened and rum flavoured variety add additional interest to the smoke Sliced Black Aromatic - Manufactured with the same tobacco as brown twist, but then put through a further process of cooking under pressure to turn the tobacco black. The cooking process does remove some of the stronger elements from the tobacco so black twist is not as strong as brown twist, but this is only relatively as it is still a very strong smoke. The twist rope is thin cut into small round segments before the addition of the aromatic top flavour Sweet Rum Twist - The main feature of this tobacco is the addition of maple sugars blended with rum to the 'filter' leaf. This is then spun into a rope form before being made into a roll which is cold-pressed overnight We also produce extra sweet Twist and are able to add a wide range of flavours, including black cherry, aniseed, liquorice and apple |
| Country of Origin: |
UK |
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Air Cured |
| Contents: |
Virginia
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Rope |
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Bulk |
| Blend Notes: |
pigtail - thin, bogie - medium, Irish - thick |
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Very Strong
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Extremely Mild
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Full
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Strong
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Recommended
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DrDyson
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11/10/2009 |
Very Strong
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Very Full
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| Black Irish twist is a tobacco that fully lives up to its intimidating appearance. This is what the Grim Reaper Himself smokes. It’s an absolutely genuine, authentic, no-nonsense baccy, but very much an acquired taste. Is it worth acquiring? I don’t think so, myself, but I can well believe that it will have its enthusiasts. It’s the kind of stuff that everybody’s great- granddad used to smoke back in the day.
Positives: it’s cool, slow-burning and as full-flavoured as you could ask for – almost a meal in itself, if you see what I mean. I can’t imagine anybody wanting much of it during a twenty-four hour cycle. (It's not for the fastidious palate, though; notice some of the things that people have compared it to: iron, blood, salty water, fishing boats, burnt steak!) Negatives: it’s excessively laborious to prepare and keep alight. It’s as moist as it looks in the picture; it needs to be dried and aired quite a bit before ignition is attempted.
Wives, servants, cats and dogs be warned: the room note of this stuff is absolutely terrible; like a fire in a slaughterhouse. It will haunt your deepest dreams, and not in a good way. Not surprisingly, the ghost of Black Irish Twist is mighty hard to exorcise from whatever pipe you smoke it in.
Hell’s bells, it’s strong! Oh, my Lord! For my tender sensibilities, this ultra-manly tobacco is far, far too wicked in terms of nicotine content. Half way down the bowl I had to lie down and pray for deliverance. You need to be a serious vitamin N junkie to like, or even to be able to stand, it. If, however, you’re looking for a robust, old-fashioned baccy that has not been tampered with in any way, have a slap at this. It’s an experience and a half: no scents or flavourings or fancy dancing – just Man against Tobacco. Try it in your smallest bowl, and don’t try to walk or focus on anything for some time afterwards.
To the Barbarian Hero kind of smoker, therefore, I recommend it. I swear I'll never touch it again, but I can be objective enough to see its virtues even though it half killed me. To more genteel pipemen – wimps like me – I say: stay away from this stuff; it’ll make you want to sit on the floor and cry.
Thus: somewhat recommended, depending on who you are and what you like. To be on the safe side, put your affairs in order before you smoke this, and maybe fill out your organ-donor card (assuming there'd be anything left of you worth recycling).
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Wrangler
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11/06/2009 |
Overwhelming
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Extra Strong
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| This tobacco is the most disgusting thing I've ever put into a pipe to smoke. Burnt rubber and chicken feathers would have tasted better had I smoked it instead! Absolutely repugnant! This crap should be renamed Satan's Excrement! I must seriously question the integrity and sanity of anyone who smokes more than one bowl of this junk! YUK! I nearly threw up from the nicotine poisoning I endured. It took me over two hours to regain my composure after this venture into the torture tobacco realm. Smoking this crap is the equivalent of straining Sterno to drink the juice to get drunk. If this was the only tobacco left in the world to smoke, I'd quit smoking my pipes.
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dryfly11
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08/22/2009 |
Extremely Strong
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Extra Strong
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| This is a monochromatic and nicotine over-loaded blend, which contaminate your pipe with a weired flavor for ever. Smoking on empty stomach makes me sick!
Why 4 stars?
I can understand if you hate it, but I love it!
It's not a complex and elegant blend, but you get a mellow smoke with a lightly sour flavor (iron, blood, salty water, fishing boat) of natural tobacco.
Smoking this stuff is the best way for me to relax. After the first few puffs - accompanied by a bottle of Merlot - all problems are fading away at once! Something magic!
I'm satisfied with one bowl a week (nicotine content!), but I don't want to miss this stuff anymore.
A relict of the "good?" old times!
Thank you Gawith & Hoggarth!
By the way, smoking indoors, it' an excellent mokito repellant!
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Cantrell
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07/08/2009 |
Extremely Strong
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Mild to Medium
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| WOW! strong stuff!
Taste like a burnt steak and I like that, something a bit different than the sweet smokes I'm used to.
I really liked this tobacco the first time I tried it, liked it so much I packed a second bowl BIG MISTAKE.
Nicotine content slammed into me hard half way through the second bowl and I broke out in a cold sweat; had to go and lay down for 20 min. VERY STRONG (my world was spinning like a top).
I still smoke this occasionally, but with much more respect. I like this tobacco early in the morning after a hearty meal, and in small doses.
Update: If this tobacco gets too dry it becomes just terrible.
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kg0mz
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04/04/2009 |
Very Strong
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Mild
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Full
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Tolerable
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| A twin with SG's Black XX rope. This came a with tad more moisture, perhaps, making it slightly limber. To my surprise this was easily rubbed out. The burn is very cool and dry to a powdery ash. No tongue bite. No throat irritation. This has the same full, grilled meat-on-a-stick flavor. A blue-collar smoke. Nothing fancy. Call it retro, a relic, a throwback, but it is an honest and satisfying, big and bold smoke. Tasty, desert island tobacco.
07/27/09 UPDATE: I am revising some of my reviews. I have given out more 4 star ratings than anything else. That practice is probably not helping. So, I am reducing BIT to 3 stars, not because I like it less than I did before, but because I am limiting 4 stars to fewer than 25% of all my reviews. One day I may use the 4 star rating to designate my top five.
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Packer
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03/27/2009 |
Strong
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Full
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Tolerable
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| You can tell from the reviews here this is a love it/hate it blend. I love it. Mellow, strong, all tobacco. Slice, and dice...let it dry out, rub it out. Packs, lights, burns well. At this point in my tobacco journey this is my desert island choice.
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HumanBoeing
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12/07/2008 |
Very Strong
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Very Strong
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| (I swear to God) Last Update: after journeying twenty miles to my nearest serious tobacconist in Newcastle-Under-Lyme I was chatting with the owner about his stock. Black Irish Twist, he told me, is his biggest seller by far - all the local farmers smoke it. I said I was amazed at this and he said, 'Well, once you've smoked this stuff for a while, nothing else comes anywhere near in terms of strength: there's no going back from this stuff'. A cautionary tale, then.
FURTHER Update: I have become a hopeless Peterson's Irish Flake junkie since writing the reviews below. However, my local 'bacconist has a bad memory and 'forgot' my recent order of Peterson's finest! Alas! So, twitching and gibbering on a Sunday morning with nothing stronger than St.Bruno Flake to hand I turned again - with considerable reluctance - to this stuff. Now, it's dried out a fair bit & it still tastes pretty damn bad BUT, it DOES give you a satisfactory fix of that evil vitamin N. So, thank you Black Irish Twist, for that. A little like drinking a bottle of Listerine to keep from the DT's when the champagne has run out (actually, Listerine might be a good idea after this stuff..).
Update: I think I was, originally, too taken with the sheer, bizarre, novelty value of a tobacco that tastes exactly like a greasy carbonised steak. Beyond this admitted novelty, and the sheer nicotine punch, I really can't see any reason why I'd ever want to smoke this again - since this same punch can be easily found with many, many tobaccos that are pleasing to smoke.
Original Review: If you were to put a steak under a high grill - after basting it with some kind of dark, Tabasco-laden barbecue sauce - and then, distracted, leave the kitchen only to remember a half-hour later and run back - you would find the atmospheric conditions there to be very similar to those produced by this remarkable tobacco. It's slow to burn, very moist and slightly fiddly to prepare. The smoke achieved however is rich, dense and surprisingly cool; a good deal less intimidating on the tongue than its smell might lead you to expect: a bold and spicy leather, really. It packs a fair nicotine wallop, yes, but not an overwhelming one: it produces more a thoughtful reverie than a head-spinning rugby-tackle of a punch. A good one to keep you mollified if you have to catch brief outdoor smokes between a series of long train journeys!
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Clayman
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09/30/2008 |
Very Strong
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Full
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Strong
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| If you want something different, this is your smoke.
Heavy - and it lends a nice flavor to the pipe. I liken the taste to roasting meat (or fat.) (Black Rope ... It's PEOPLE!!!)
Indeed, my wife often mistakes the smell of smoldering black rope to chicken burning on the grill. Now, if that ain't a reason to try this smoke, I don't know what is! You get tons of people who liken the smell of burning latakia to "Campfires in the fall" etc etc. Well, how many tobaccos can you smoke that remind you of summer barbecue??
For best results, smoke in a clay, as it was meant to be smoked. Chew it first, and then let it dry out and smoke it for a REALLY authentic experience. (It tones down the nicotine ... really! Try it, I dare you.) Baking soda will get the stains off your teeth, I promise.
P.S. I'm pretty sure the term "OLD TAR" comes from the aroma that old sailors who smoked too much black rope must exude from every pore. What more could you possibly want?
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BriarChef
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09/10/2008 |
Strong
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Medium to Full
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Strong
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| I enjoy chopping things up, like ropes and plugs of tobacco. I can't decide if this is a good waste of bad tobacco, or a bad waste of good tobacco.
A brutal head butt of a smoke with no subtle aspects.
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stieltje
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05/12/2008 |
Very Strong
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Mild
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Strong
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| **UPDATE**
This tobacco grows on me, a bit of this rope have now been in my tobacco jar for a while, and it has done a bit for the taste. Perhaps due to a different moisture level (I have also changed the pipe I use for this tobacco). The taste of this tobacco is a bit fuller right from the start, and I feel the taste of very dark chocolates, and some grape fruit.
As before, the sweetness builds up nicely as the pipe progresses. Sweet and mild smoke tastewise, probably a powerhouse nicotine wise, as I usually break a sweat while smoking it.
*Original review*
My first impression on this tobacco was very bad, smoked it in a small bowled pipe, and perhaps to swift. The roof of my mouth got a coating, and I got a heart burn as well. The taste was that of wet but smoldering card board.
Drying it out a wee bit, and then smoking it in a medium sized meer or a billiard briar, and smoking it slowly, it reveals a completely different character. The first half of the bowl is very mild, and not tasting much at all, but as the sweetnes of the VA's builds up and gains momentum, the taste gets sweeter, fuller, more satisfying. This tobacco do need alot of attention, at least the first half bowl of it.
Very nice on occasion, or when you are all out of dark birdseye. A bowl of this in the morning perks me up.
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Holy Smoke
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07/10/2007 |
Very Strong
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Tolerable to Strong
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| Mmm, a barbeque in a pipe.
It's a simple smoke, nothing wrong with that, that will hit the spot (for flavour) when nothing else can. Just don't let yourself be fooled by the mildness of the aroma: you'll get bitten almost instantly if you puff too quickly. Though after getting it lit, it's a tame rope and not a crazed viper.
This is not an exceptionally strong or rough tobacco. The core of it's kick lies in it's smoky and earthy character, not in lashings of nicotine and tar. Latakia may be smoky -though it is confined to the realms of lapsang souchong- Black Irish on the other hand is like putting a few pounds of dry bracken in your mouth and letting your neighbour run at you with a flaming torch.
This is a perfect smoke to accompany a coffee, but it does lack a long nicotine hit and won't keep you going as long as other twists.
A suitable nightcap.
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TheGreatPawnHunter
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01/29/2007 |
Medium
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Mild
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Medium to Full
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Very Pleasant
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| This tobacco I save for capping off the night before bed time. It is dark and formadable but that is half the attraction. It is pressurized removing a lot of the nicotine to produce a medium to full smoking experience. Great taste. My grand father and father used to mix these "Rat tail" tobaccos with inexpensive tea leaves because they were poor. Tobacco was hard to come by for them. This tobacco has a salty taste to it. It lights easily and stays lit. I smoke this tobacco in a Pipa Croci Dublin. A little goes a very long way. It is a great outdoor smoke on a rainy or wintry day. Cut in 1/8th inch pieces with a pocket knife and put through an inexpensive tobacco grinder and smoked straight will have you dreaming of the wee folk in the hills of county Kerry, Ireland.
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Nke
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09/20/2005 |
Medium to Strong
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Medium
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Very Strong
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| Itlooks great and smells great. It`s really something exotic and different by the looks of it. I really anticipated a lot more from it. To me it wasn`t really strong. The taste was something between iron,salt water and blood. Very sour. I just couldn`t finish the bowl,because the taste just wasn`t for me. Although I can perfectly understand that for some it`s just "the" thing. But on my personal experience,I can`t recommend it. Just too different. But... it`s worth a try anyhow,just for the sake of it!
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Pipestud
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07/30/2005 |
Extremely Strong
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Extra Full
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Strong
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| If there is any doubt that a person's personal chemical makeup plays a large role in one's flavor impressions of a certain pipe tobacco, then read all of the reviews of Black Irish Twist. Some esteemed members here say it is an all-time favorite while other esteemed members say it is an all-time worst.
Strong and oily with an all tobacco taste, pure and simple. With G&H Black Irish Twist in your pipe, the cares of the world will quickly fade from your immediate thoughts. All of your attention will be focused on trying to get through your bowlful of the stuff . Of secondary concern (well, for me anyway,) was what to do with the rest of the tin? I finally decided to bury it in my neighbor's back yard. Please don't tell.
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Darth 69
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07/05/2005 |
Medium to Strong
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Medium to Full
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Tolerable to Strong
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| I really like Gawith's twists, that is when I'am in the mood to handle the high nicotine strength. This is calmer in the nicotine department than others of it's kind do to I'am sure the cooking process making it jet black. Still somewhat strong and full though. It has a wonderful smell in the tin/pouch like cinnamon spice from all that dark fired leaf. However it's smoking qualities I did not enjoy. It is somewhat moist in texture so it burns a little slower. The tastes is round, mild on the pallette but in conjunction with it's burning aroma I found unpleasant. Its' very odd and am not sure what to liken it to, perhaps burning plastic with a degree of sweetness. Yes, I mean it, it tastes oddly different and "synthetic." It's texture reminds me more of being in line with chewing tobacco. I have read somewhere that precisely that is what these types of blends are for, both chewing and smoking. If one has ever experimented with drying out and burning chewing tobacco, a similiar smoke quality is pressent. I think it has to do with moisture penetrating the leaf in such a cooking process. So I tried chewing a small sclice and it tastes more in line with being a chewing product. Skoal fans may like this. But it made me severely sick and almost lost it, stomach contents that is. So experiment at your own risk.
Not recommended.
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LoisKelly
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12/09/2004 |
Overwhelming
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Overwhelming
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| I know that we are not supposed to comment on the reviews of others, so I hope no one takes offense at what I'm about to say. I had to scour the data base to come up with the most ghastly comments ascribed to any tobacco on this site, for certainly this blend deserves no less a description.
The esteemed Mr. Eulenberg, whose educated palate and prose make him one of the wonders of this site, described Dunhill's Royal Yacht as possessing "all the flavourful charm and sweet redolence of slightly gangrenous horse meat". I would suggest that he sample this abomination. By comparison, Royal Yacht would make a worthy wedding gift to a dear friend.
It's a big world, and there is room for all manner of styles and tastes, yet I cannot for a moment imagine anyone enjoying this. It is downright brutal in its assault on the senses, and brings shame to our gentle art.
I'll describe it nonetheless. An oily, pitch black rope, only slightly foul smelling, it brings nothing but nicotine to the table. The world of wine has Thunderbird, and, well, we have this. Shredding the tough leaves into a manageable form is a chore unrewarded with anything closely resembling smoking pleasure. It looks like used cigar butts, and probably tastes about the same.
The anti-smoking zealots should use this as exhibit A.
Surely there must be uses for such a product. Perhaps the Brits used it to force the evacuation of landing crafts at Normandy. I know I'd rather face enemy fire than this. It may also make a good noose.
I have to go and salt my pipe now, as well as every other pipe in my house, and possibly the tri-state area. Someone should salt the earth where they grow this stuff, as well.
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bigjonburley
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12/08/2004 |
Strong
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| I tried black Irish twist after trying several of the Gawith and Hoggart tobaccos. I had first given brown twist a thorough tasting before trying its darker brother, black twist. I have never had a problem with the supposed tsunami of nicotine that is supposed to embodie many of the G & H tobaccos, but none the less it is apparent that many smokers do. The aroma of black twist is that of an lightly (and I do mean lightly) sweetend bourbonesque essence. Texture of the rope is oily and chewy, I almost wanted to cut of a plug of it and find the nearest spitoon. I was skeptical as to how well this tobacco was going to burn upon initial inspection but, after lighting I had no problem sustaining a proper burn. Texture of the smoke was not biting in the least, I have to admit I thaught that this blend was going burn like a mouth full of coals. This is most likely due to the intense curing that this tobacco undergoes, as most of the sugars are leached from the leaf during the baking process. The overall complexity in this tobacco was a bit lacking. I detected an air of charred honey-baked ham that seemed to peek out from time to time, laced with the slightest kiss of bourbon. Despite the oily texture of the leaf this tobacco burns clean, leaving a fine ash at the bottom of the bowl. I highly recomend using a pipe with small bowl capacity for this tobacco, as a little goes a long way. I have a miniature Peterson barrel that I primarily use for this tobacco and its brown brother. I have alot of respect for G&H for maintaing the classic lines of tobacco that they produce. I encourage all smokers to at least try these blends and, if you don't like them then at least you can comment on them.
Note preparation: I noticed that there are alot of people who have commented on how much of a pain this tobacco is to prepare for smoking, so I wanted to share my technique.
Slice of segments of the rope into widths of 1/4 of an inch. Place the cut rope segments into a clean coffee grinder a pulse a couple of times. This works really fast, and gives a very manageable cut that packs and blends easily. The uniformity of the cut also makes the burn really consistent.
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CaptnDan
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09/07/2004 |
Strong
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| A friend shared some of his rope stock so I could try this style of tobacco - Thanks James!
This was quite a departure from the blends I usually smoke. And that is an understatement. I will never again think that drying and rubbing out flakes is a tedious procedure. This stuff actually requires tools to get it ready to smoke.
I tried cutting it into slices, but found that shredding it was quicker. End result is the same. Then it had to dry.
The taste reminded me of a backyard barbeque - not altogether unpleasant, but unexpected. Actually quite smooth, not the harsh horrible beast I expected. The room note was more potent than the taste. Nicotine content was fairly high. I smoked back-to-back bowls without ill-effect, though there was some effect.
I'll probably re-visit this one, but it's nothing I will want on a regular basis. Just too 'plain-Jane'.
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06/24/2004 |
Very Strong
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| This is supposed to be the same as the brown rope, only cooked to remove some of the tars and nicotine to make for a more mellow smoke. My first impression of this tobacco was what the heck is it? It looked like a piece of old rubber that came off of a tire. I took my razor blade and began to make thin slices and then chop the sloces up a bit. I packed the tobacco into a favorite old pipe I use for testing, it lit after a bit of persuading, billows of white smoke were produced and the smell of steaks burning on a barbecue grill filled the room. The taste was surprisingly tame, a good mellow smoke, I couldn't believe it, something that looks this intimidating tasting so good, and being so mellow, just goes to show looks can be deceiving. A 9 out of 10. Note: this does not quite have the nicotine wallop of the brown twist, but it is still a high nicotine content smoke, be careful.
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RCUSElder
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05/24/2004 |
Extremely Strong
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| Whoa! Nelly!! This is some seriously strong tobacco!
Appearance: Black rope, looks like coyote skat!
Aroma: Fermented leaf, wine and raisin undertones.
Packing: a pain in the rear! You have to cut a section with scissors, then cut the leaf further and rub-out the filler, then pack your pipe.
Lighting: about 4 vestas, better to leave out for an hour or two before filling your pipe.
Flavor: In your face tobacco, but it reminded me of a cheap cigar. It doesn't change down the bowl much. This is not the rich complex flavors that come from a rich stoved VA blend, rather it is plain ole nasty tobaccy. Ash is dark and dry though. Warning, this will leave a strong aftertaste in your mouth that will need a day or two to get rid of and your pipe will also catch the flavor; dedicate a pipe or get a corncob.
Overall: well, at least I tried it. If this were the only tobac available, I would quit smoking. The nicotine was high, but not anymore than say "Stonehaven". I suppose in the world of Alcohol ther is room for "Ripple" and "Thunderbird" and in the world of tobacco we have "Black Irish Rope".
Rating: 0 out of 5 points, trust me don't waste your time on this.
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