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Stonehaven

Brand: Esoterica Tobacciana
Blender: J.F. Germain & Son
Tin Description: A marriage of air-cured leaf and Burley with selected dark Virginia. Hard pressed and aged to produce brown flakes with dark undertones. A traditional English flake favored by experienced pipe smokers.
Country of Origin: British Isles, UK
Curing Group: Air Cured
Contents:
Burley
Virginia
Cut: Flake
Packaging: 8oz Bag

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Average Ratings
Strength: Medium to Strong
Flavoring: Very Mild
Taste: Medium to Full
Room Note: Pleasant to Tolerable
Recommendation: Highly Recommended


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Showing reviews 61 through 80 of 149 reviews of this tobacco
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PipenGuitar 01/17/2009 Medium to Strong Very Mild Medium Tolerable recommended
When dried out for about an hour, one can find this to be an enjoyable smoke. Puff with modesty, and it will return a subtle sweetness, as most Virginia's do. Wonderful hint of a coffee/chocolate, especially in first 1/3 of bowl. It slowly dissipates and the aroma becomes more of a natural tobacco smell...(for a lack of a better explanation)


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cut-shot 01/07/2009 Medium None detected Mild to Medium Pleasant recommended
The smell of Stonehaven in the container is absolutely wonderful!

The flakes are beautiful in appearance and need a little rubbing out to get the right consistency for packing. Not the easiest tobacco to pack but with a little patience it is well worth the time it takes.

I find this a very sweet tobacco with great high notes that needs to be smoked very gently or it can bite. I smoke it primarily in a medium sized bowl maybe group 5 Dunhill and it burns slowly and very clean and reasonably dry.

This is not my "Holy Grail" smoke but I continue to smoke it to try and find the magic in this blend and it is nice but not my go-to Virginia.

I like it very much but must give it 3 stars for lack of complexity.


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lvpipe 12/19/2008 Medium to Strong Extremely Mild Medium to Full Tolerable recommended
I agree with the previous review. I had some for 2 years and pretty much gave up on it. I decided to give it another try and found it delicious. I would rate it 4 stars except you have to age it for so long before it can be appreciated. I will not miss Orlik Dark Kentucty as long as this is available. Prior to ageing it has a strange taste that I cannot describe. Dark Kentucky has an Anise taste that pretty much goes away after a week of opening the tin. I like strong VA's the best and some of them need ageing or at least some dry time. My favorite Burley's are Solani's Aged Burley Flake and CD's Riverboat Gambler. Now I believe Stonehaven has taken the lead, and is among my top 10 favorites of all tobaccos.


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Pipe4ever 11/07/2008 Mild to Medium Mild Mild Pleasant highly recommended
It took me two year to discover the glory of this blend, In fact, when I purchased the 8oz pack two years ago and upon smoking the first bowl I was completely disappointed, I found this was a nonsense blend, I then put it in small jar and forgot it in the drawer.

Recently and by simple curiosity I opened the jar to find some black color flakes, very fermented with promising smell, well, you guess... oxidation and bacteria where doing good job, I will not describe the taste simply because I cannot. What I can say is that this is actually the best smoke I have in my tobacco collection.


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Old Puffer 10/01/2008 Medium to Strong Mild Full Tolerable highly recommended
4/18/09 Since my original review, I've come to better terms with this baccy. I have learned to let it dry out almost to the point of crispness, just under the point of crumbling when packing, and packing it very loosely. It now lights up easily with one match and stays lit nicely all the way to the end, has lost almost all of it's cigar taste, and no longer leaves a foul odor in the pipe after smoking (I am owing all this to the high moisture content previously noted). I've come to regard this as a Full Virginia Flake without the problems in rubbing out and packing. In fact, blending it with FVF makes for a darn good smoke!

The overall richness and naturalness of flavor has put it in a category of pure English without the orientals and Latakia. It has moved far up the list of good baccys in my collection and has become one of my more favored. All this said, I most likely will buy more.

10/01/08 This baccy has to be dried out some to be acceptable at all to me. It packs well (no sticks either) and evenly, lights OK but sometimes needs 3 matches to get it's head down, stays lit well and has a nice, robust, unadorned tobacco taste. Presents plenty of good, rich smelling smoke with no sucking up required.

My only problems seem to deal with moisture content and strength. If it isn't dried out, it starts gurgling at about 1/2 bowl and gets super strong as it nears the bottom. If dried out sufficiently, as in previously stated reviews, starts to smell and taste like a cigar which I find offensive, and still gets stronger near the end of the bowl. It also leaves my pipes with a strong, somewhat offensive after-odor which doesn't go away easily or readily.

I don't detect the Burley (unless I don't know the difference) in the flavor but the Va comes through loud and clear.

This is probably a very good smoke for the right palate and I wouldn't turn it down in a pinch and will finish what is on hand. I seems to be pretty representative of a true English blend without orientals or Latakia. However, I don't think I'll be buying more.


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frankluke 09/19/2008 Medium Mild to Medium Full Pleasant highly recommended
i've had about a half dozen or so bowls of this the last few days, i'm quickly turning into a fan. the key for me with this blend is letting it dry for about an hour, it'll still feel wet but it doesn't stick together. the strips of SH smell like dried fruit maybe wine i guess like so many say on TR. it has a sour taste to me, but in a good way, i know that sounds odd, how can sour be good, but whatever.. a sour bitter sweet chocolate taste. it has an aromatic room note, my son frank came downstairs and asked if we were baking muffins, lol . it smokes cool and dry if you let it sit like i mentioned, if you rub and pack right away it can get a little bitey and leave dottle.. i cant finish the last 1/4 of the bowl if i do this. all that being said, stonehaven is awesome!


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Trident 09/13/2008 Medium None detected Medium to Full Pleasant to Tolerable highly recommended
An excellent tobacco when you want a straight forward smoke. It smokes better when dried out a bit.


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morfiel 09/13/2008 Mild None detected Full Tolerable highly recommended
Aromatic tobaccos and I are not compatible. On the other hand, I appreciate the natural flavor and smoke texture of quality leafs. I cannot find any artificial topping or casing on Stonehaven. To me, this is good.

I recently opened a 2-year old foil pack of Stonehaven. At opening, it was nicely pungent and rich, with excellent moisture. Sugars started to form on some slices. I rubbed and aired a slice 30-45 minutes and loaded it on a mid-large briar (which I also use for VA/VA-Per).

Excellent! It delivered an amazingly enjoyable thick smoke from start to finish. It reaffirmed its already assured place in my permanent rotation. Now, I keep it in a sealing mason jar.

To me, Stonehaven is never disappointing. It ages great. I recommend it highly to non-aromatic aficionados. In my experience, it is also a nice blend to share and enjoy with smokers of cigars and aromatics.

Other tobaccos that I am currently enjoying and that are in a similar rotation standing with me are (but are not limited to) R. Lewis? Orcilla, Schürch?s Onyx, and McClelland?s Virginia # 24, each one with its unique charm. Enjoy!


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augustin 08/28/2008 Strong None detected Full Tolerable to Strong highly recommended
This is a wonderful tobacco. It gives a cool, oily, creamy, and savory smoke. The flavor is so distinct I only smoke it occasionally, but when I come back to it, I love it. Very enjoyable.


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peterson314 08/20/2008 Medium to Strong None detected Extremely Mild (Flat) Pleasant not recommended
I've given this stuff a few tries, in a few different pipes, and it never fails to leave my mouth feeling as if it had just swallowed an pint of ash. Although the room note is quite enjoyable, the tobacco itself tastes deplorable. After trying all I could to enjoy this stuff, I have given up and will not submit my tongue to such torture.


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Max1a 08/11/2008 Medium Very Mild Medium to Full Tolerable to Strong recommended
A very high quality flake no doubt about it. Much tastier with a little moisture remaining. Too dry, and it takes on a cigar like quality. I wouldn't call it a burley exactly. At least not in the classic sense, making it unusual and hard to desribe. It contains quality burley tobaccos, yes, but the presentation seems to change most of the burleys' characteristics to a dry, flat character instead of nutty and mellow. Think "dry vs. wet" martini All and all a very nice tobacco.


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Piperpan 08/04/2008 Medium Very Mild Medium to Full Tolerable highly recommended
UPDATE Aug./04/2008: After several bowls (I use to smoke it everyday once)it seems better and better. It tastes as 'glory'. ¡Magnífico!

A world of sensations opens to me when I smoke this tobacco (previous letting it dry for 2 hours, of course). Very very recommendable.


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butman 07/12/2008 Mild to Medium Mild to Medium Medium Pleasant highly recommended
This tobacco is just a treat. The flavoring is completely pleasant and it's a mix so you have several different things to enjoy. It smells great, lights up really well and just goes in any pipe I have tried it in. In fact I was about ready to ebay an olive wood pipe I had tried and tried to enjoy. Stonehaven saved the day. I filled it, lit it and man it was superb. It's a regular in my weekly rotation. I treat it like a trip to the ice cream store...not too often, but gotta do it.


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bighitter 05/25/2008 Medium to Strong Extremely Mild Very Full Pleasant highly recommended
Review number 83: Yes I love it. I don't know whether it's topped or cased or whatever. I just know that when I opened it, I smelled the rum or brandy like many people here have. It seemed like it was splashed with rum or something like that, but I understand tobacco fermentation is supposed to produce similar results...

Anyway, smoking it is fun. It does not bite at all. It tastes amazing, somewhat like Guiness or some kind of stout, very malty and chocolatey. And it's pretty strong, but I wouldn't say it's by any means really strong. It's great. I love Stonehaven, and hopefully I'll have it again sometime, although there's so many tobaccos I don't know when I might get back around to it.


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Packer 05/15/2008 Medium to Strong Very Mild Full Pleasant to Tolerable highly recommended
I have bought several pipes lately, and have been on a mission going through many Virginia blends. A couple of months ago a small sample on Stonehaven came with a new pipe. I found it to be O K (good enough to order 8 oz.more) I just recieved another pipe from this on line sight. This time I got a tripple Maxima Ser Jocopo. Great pipe.....and another sample of Stonehaven. I'm glad I waited to rate this blend, as it saved a latter revision.

This is a very odd blend in appearance, and aroma. The rather large, black flakes are unlike any of the many flakes that I have seen. They come very moist, but after a full rub they dry out nicely. The pack, and light go well..then the fun begins. This blend is big on smoke, and flavor. Words like organic, and fruity come to mind. This blend has less bite potential than most that I have tried. I will be getting another pound of this blend to cellar, and some to consume now. It has not worked its way into my top 5 blends..........yet. It is in the top 10, and working its way up. Rate * * * *

update 5/16/08 this gets better with each bowl...just ordered another pound.


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loosewatches 04/01/2008 Medium Very Mild Full Pleasant to Tolerable recommended
Just a short update. (followed by a long rant) I ordered more Stonehaven and received, indeed, Stonehaven. After a little research on this site, I think the last bag I got was mislabeled Peacehaven. I certainly won't be buying that one soon. As much as I like Stonehaven though, I'm leaving it at 3 stars. It's just that good.

10/10/2007: This is a new review because some things have changed for me with Stonehaven and the old review said, well, nothing.

I was ready to bump this up to four stars because the last few ounces I've smoked were outstanding. Tin smell was great, rubbing out was fun and, with a little dry out it smoked clean all the way down. Plenty of vitamin N.

Now, I open up an eight ounce bag and inside the plastic case sits a complete mess. What's this? It's not Stonehaven, I know that much. The flakes are light to dark brown and very mottled. They're cut twice as thick and smashed together in there. I'm thinking somebody at Esoterica wanted to get off work a little early and slacked on the job. Esoterica's consistency had always impressed me.

So, I open the plastic box. It smells vaguely like Stonehaven, but I'm still thinking this is a different blend. This broken flake is so wet it's not smokable. Even overnight drying doesn't help. Two days later and it's still damp, still won't smoke and tastes only vaguely like Stonehaven. I've dried some crispy and it doesn't stay lit. It smokes with substantial bite when it does burn. (There is no date on the sack).

The black thin flakes that rub out easily into soft needles and smoke and taste great are gone. There's seven ounces of a sad impostor in my Stonhaven jar. If I can smoke my way through it and if I order more, I'll be expecting the old style. I assume this was a mistake. If they changed the blend, or have given it over to Orlik (ha!)and this is the new stuff, you can bet your favorite pipe it'll get no stars from me.

Something else-- After a few more bowls of this, (I'm a trooper) I realize 2.5 things. 1.) This is cased with 'Stonehaven essence'. 2.) The base tobaccos taste very much like they were blended by McClelland. The McC twang is there. 2.5) I taste no burley. --- This is one strange sack of tobacco. Maybe this is the real 'Stonehaven on crack'. Or could it be a mislabeled Peacehaven?


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Hermit 78 03/26/2008 Medium to Strong Very Mild Medium to Full Tolerable recommended
This is a pretty good blend--it has a smokey, chocolatey cigar-like character, a sweet virginia element, and something else that tastes like raspberries (another reviewer said apricots, but I've always found that imaginary raspberries taste a lot like imaginary apricots anyway). I hear Stonehaven is not cased (via the same reviewer) but if this is indeed the case, pun intended, it sure acts like it. It bubbles and fizzes and turns a weird orange colour. It gunks up the bottom of the bowl after a short while with something that smells and tastes like road tar. It "ghosts" the pipe like one would expect from an aromatic. This may be something inherent in the fermentation process and not a bona fide "casing," but IMO if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, a pragmatist may safely treat it like a raspberry casing. Stonehaven really needs its own pipe, not only to permit one to enjoy its subtleties, but because it is utterly incapable of cohabiting a pipe with any other blend. It's tasty, with a nice nic hit, but I'm not sure it'll ever be a "go to" blend for me.


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Davetopay 03/16/2008 Medium to Strong Very Mild Full Tolerable highly recommended
WOW! This is good stuff. I finally got around to having a bowl while taking a walk around town with the wife yesterday, and now I wonder why I didn't try it sooner. It really does look like a slice of old tire, or maybe roofing shingles and tar, but is sooooo much better to find in your cellar. It reminds me of a more potent version of Bob's Choc. Flake with out the flowery Lakeland essence. (I assume that's what I detect in Bob's) This came to me much drier, and less breakable than other flakes I have had. I had to take out a plate, and rub it with great vigor to get it ready to smoke. I have yet to try folding slices and loading them into the pipe, but they do fold easily without breaking apart. I do have doubts about how well this will stay lit due to its density. It's flavor was very consistent all the way through my pipe. I could taste chocolate, almonds, brazil nuts, and something lemony lurking in the background. Never gave me any bite and only needed a usual light/tamp/light. No gurgles, no goo, and a nice clean ash when done. This stuff is tops. Gonna go place an order on payday for a few tins.


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flaminbill' 01/11/2008 Medium Mild Medium Tolerable somewhat recommended
This is another Esoterica overrated blend to me. To me this stuff tastes remarkably like McClelland Royal Cajun Special or vice versa. I started this in a large Stanwell Egg which I had previously smoked a few bowls of Royal Cajun in. I thought that it was a leftover ghost taste. However, I broke a brand new Savinelli and voila, it tasted the same.

At least if I don't care much for the Royal Cajun, I only have 2 Oz. to deal with. As we all know, most retailers only offer Stonehave in 8 Oz. packages.

It is presented well and dries out for smoking in about an hour. It does burn well and does not bite. There is something about the taste that doesn't ring my bell, and I guess I would say the same about Royal Cajun.

To date I have smoked this fully rubbed. I have not found the happy medium between when it is too wet to smoke and when it turns into crackers.

I won't give up on it yet because I have another 5 Oz. or so to smoke. I just don't see it as a 4**** blend.


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Cashmere 11/19/2007 Strong Medium Full Tolerable to Strong highly recommended
Others have described this blend accurately. I'm just going on record and doing my bit to keep Stonehaven's rating up there at four stars. This is the best tobacco I've ever smoked. ****/****

UPDATE, 11/19/07: Stonehaven has slipped a notch or so in my personal ranking since 2005. Still four stars I think (it's definitely quality stuff), but I now think of it as "somewhere in the top 10" rather than "the best".


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