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And So To Bed
| Brand: |
Esoterica Tobacciana |
| Blender: |
J.F. Germain & Son |
| Tin Description: |
Finest grade Virginia and Maryland type tobaccos are carefully aged and blended with Greek Oriental leaf and top-grade Cyprian Latakia. The blend is then specially processed and additionally matured to produce a mellow full strength smoke with rich flavor and unique aroma. |
| Country of Origin: |
British Isles, UK |
| Curing Group: |
Air Cured |
| Contents: |
Virginia
Latakia
Oriental
Maryland
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| Cut: |
Ribbon |
| Packaging: |
50g Tin |
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Medium
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Very Mild
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Recommendation: |
Recommended
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Xeneize
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12/06/2009 |
Medium
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Mild
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| I'm not a fan of "American English" blends, but ASTB should be a staple for those who enjoy flavored English mixtures. The Virginias/Orientals/Latakia balance falls toward Latakia, although Virginias and Orientals are always present. A particular casing, which would somehow resemble wine, is also noted throughout the bowl. In fact, it tends to get a bit cloying by the end of the pipe, but I mostly found it enjoyable.
The shag cut makes it easy to choke the airway, so care must be taken at the time of packing.
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Demetri
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06/14/2009 |
Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant
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| I picked up a tin of this yesterday on the way in to work and tried a couple of bowlfuls during the night. I am pleasantly taken with this blend, which is a English, by definition (no casings, or topping, Latakia containing Oriental based blend), to me, even if lightly so as it is light on the Latakia. However, that fact gives it its intended use - the last smoke of the day. It does not leave any heavy lingering aftertaste. In fact it might serve as the first smoke of the day as well. As to strength: I found it ample - not overpowering but enough. For room note: unsolicited comments from fellow workers, "That smells good".
While pretty moist in the tin, it burned through with only a couple of initial relights to a fine ash, curiously without any gurgles.
So, at this point I like it. As usual I'll put it to my normal one week test and then see.
A nice find, Thanks guys, I'd never have tried this w/o your reviews.
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RMBittner
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02/23/2009 |
Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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Not since Penzance have I taken so immediately to a blend. This was pleasure at first puff.
First, this needs several hours of drying time once you open the tin. (Although smokeable initially, you'll go through a lot of matches.)
There's a lot going on here. There is a whiff of green apple in the tin, but there is nothing like that happening in the bowl. In fact, if the blenders didn't acknowledge that there was an added flavoring (natural), I'm not sure most smokers would even recognize its presence. There is certainly no identifiable, defining flavoring agent present in the smoke: Just delightful, ineluctable tobacco aroma and flavor.
Once lit, solid latakia flavors slowly give way to the orientals (the opposite for how Penzance, from the same blender, presents itself to me). There is a tiny, tiny bit of sweetness that only occasionally comes through, along with the dark and toasty-tasting Virginias. I can't imagine smoking this and then going to bed; I always want another bowlful right away!
BTW, the tin copy is accurate: "A soft but full-bodied mixture..." There is a nicotine presence here that is stronger than Penzance (which doesn't affect me at all). It's far from Nightcap or Hal o' the Wynd territory, though.
This is the third Esoterica English I've tried, along with Margate and Penzance. All three have been wonderful.
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Lochinvar
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11/20/2008 |
Mild to Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Mild
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Pleasant
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| *Update* I tried this again after looking over some of the other reviewers comments, thinking perhaps I had gotten a bum tin. I still never tasted the Basma (really the sole reason i tried the blend in the first place) nor did I find anything close to an English taste. I didn't find anything other than the same old stewed fruit/apple cider sliminess I had noted previously. The conflciting reviews for this blend puzzle me, I wonder if there is not more to the disparity in opinion than just the differences between smokers. Perhaps this needs greater time aging than straight off the shelf. I may experiment further with this blend, in a few years. This blend is nothing like I expected. I enjoy the English/Aromatic when I am in an aromatic mood. When I opened the tin, however, I was not sure where the English had gone. The leaf is as damp as I have ever seen and the smell in the tin was that of strong apple cider. While I am a cider fan I was not sure if I wanted it in my pipe. When lit the cider flavor was the only taste I really noted. The flavor and smoke had, as best as I can describe it, a "coldness" about it that I did not care for. I would rather have a tad more latakia and oriental to interplay with the casing. But on its own the taste is very good, truly tasting more like apple than many apple aromatics out there, and it left my pipe clean. I think I will stick to other Esoterica offerings in my rotation.
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zierro
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08/08/2008 |
Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Tolerable
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| Extremely well blended mix of Virginia's, moderate amounts of Latakia, and intriguing Orientals. Not sure if it's the orientals alone, or perhaps a bit of Deer Tounge added, that bring out some mild, enjoyable flavor notes.
Tin opens to a moist tobacco that emits a fermented note. Most folks probably will dry it out a bit, I smoke it straight out of the tin, and store to retain same moisture level. Burns smooth, even and clean.
I prefer a more pronounced Latakia punch, but find ASTB to be a great go to, when I want to lighten it up a bit, like on a hot humid day.
Highly recommended to English Blend Smokers looking for a mild to moderate blend. Folks new or not accustomed to English might be a bit confused with what the Orientals do in this blend.
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Satc001
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03/03/2008 |
Mild
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Extremely Mild
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Mild
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Pleasant
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| Another one of those blends that gets a bad rap because it isn't Nightcap.
This is a rather mild blend of Virginias, Turkish, and just a hint of Latakia. I find it to be delightfully light, but flavorful on the palate and one does not have to worry about being bitten by this blend. Like every blend, it is better when allowed to dry out a bit, but please don't be so naive to believe that its moisture is some sort of mistake (Germaine and Son know what they are doing).
I particularly like to blow smoke through my nose with this one because it has a sort of Turkish cigarette blend quality to it. The nice cool, nutty flavor is enhanced with some nice notes reminding me of Mediterranean spices. A rather nice aroma helps make this tobacco as enjoyable indoors as outdoors.
I don't like giving stars but grading as follows: 1 Star, pass it by 2 Stars, Okay blend, but has some unredeeming qualities 3 Stars, Good blend that is pleasant to smoke and worth a try 4 Stars, Superb Stuff
I give this 3 stars. It is a good blend worth the time of the selective smoker, but please don't do it the injustice of comparing it to a heavy latakia blend.
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Fife&Drum
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01/02/2008 |
Mild to Medium
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Mild
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Full
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| I'm with the Zebra that eats Tacos. I don't get the negative overall reviews on this blend. But to each his own. That's the spice of life.
I will say here that I'm an Esoterica English blend fanatic! I like them all, and rotate them on a constant basis, favoring Penzance, Margate, and Pembroke the most. Only 2 times have I had tins that that were too new and hadn't aged enough. (1 Penzance, and 1 Pembroke) Otherwise, I think Esoterica is extremely consistant and very high quality.
Speaking of spice, this blend has a bit o topping that adds a certain spicey character over-all. Certainly more Virginia component than say Margate or Penzance. The Latakia stands back in this blend a little more, but not overly so. I really like this blend for a change of pace. Smoke this slow and easy. Light puffs yield wonderful flavor and aroma. The blend tends to dry out easily due to the fine ribbon cut, but packs wonderfully easy, and a snap to light and keep lit to the finish. It gets darker and spicier closer to the bottom of the bowl. Savor this one.
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tacoeatingzebra
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11/08/2007 |
Medium
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Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| I'm not certain why this blend isn't rated higher. As a big fan of Penzance, Dunbar, Stonehaven & MArgate, I was curious to try this blend. The hints of anise in the topping in this blend, along with the basma leaf really make this blend soar. Not a latakia smoke bomb here, in fact, I'd venture to say that in the tins I've smoked, it is mostly bvarious shades of brown amongst the leaves.
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Devonshire
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02/10/2007 |
Strong
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Very Mild
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Full
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Tolerable to Strong
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| Overall, good stuff. I agree that this blend can get a little sticky, so maybe let it dry out just a bit. As with many latakia blends, this one is full bodied and dark, but the Virginias and Orientals mellow it well. A nice smoke for the evening time, as the name suggests. Reminds me a lot of Pease's Odyssey, another great blend.
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Andy Ellis
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12/05/2006 |
Mild to Medium
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Mild
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Tried this a a change from Dunhill Nightcap - New tin opened, quite damp and certainly there is a topping I was not expecting. Sticky to pack and didn't light too well for me. First experience was disappointing with harsh hacky bite and strong flavour of topping with fast burning latakia.
Two weeks later, same tin, I tried again... much better. Actually quite tasty taken on the porch on a cold evening with a glass of sherry. Milder than my last memory and pleasant, relaxing smoke.
Hoping it will get better with time - but found a pleasant evening smoke here.
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sonoma
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04/24/2006 |
Mild to Medium
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Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Tolerable
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| I don't know what the special process and additional maturing entails, but I think its got something to do with honey flavored cough syrup and raisins. About all I can say of this bacco is that it's a usefull blend to resurrect a pipe that chambered too many aromatics. I salvaged my favorite Comoy using a tin of this stuff. Not for me.
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Pipe-arazzo
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03/31/2006 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium to Strong
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Mild
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Very Pleasant
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| Having tried Margate a few years ago, I was looking forward to this, thinking I'd get basically an English blend. I got the tin of ASTB from an employer who had had it for some years. When I opened it and smoked it, I tasted nothing but the casing. Unconscionable for any venerable blender to do that without warning me! Reminds me of Dunhill's "3-Year Matured Virginia" whose name should get them a false advertising suit pronto. However, I didn't throw away the ASTB, but left it in a jar for some months and forgot about it. Then, the weather improving, I dug it out and tried it again. Apparently, the casing had evaporated or something. It actually tasted a lot better. More a subtle chocolate. Still not great, but I figure it could make a good crossover from virginias to aromatics or vice-versa. But then again, it's hard for me to imagine liking aromatics. That is the explanation for my paradoxical choice of "medium to strong" flavoring with a "mild" taste. The flavoring is way too strong initially because it overpowers everything else, the rest having a subtle flavor. Don't waste your time on this one.
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thedstnguishdgntlmn
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03/29/2006 |
Medium
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Medium
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Medium to Full
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Very Pleasant
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| I no longer update reviews. I write new ones, as I am finding there are dramatic changes occuring in these blends.They,therefore,warrant new reviews. I'll get to the point quickly on this one. It went from being my desert island blend to being my worst enemy blend. Perfume on top of cheap leaf! Reminds me of Sam Malloys or Liberty. Real Garbage. It seems the European tobaccos are getting worse by the year. What is going on since the EU? I guess unification in one area brings discord in another. Pass on all Butera tins for now. They lost their MOJO.
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emmbee
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11/21/2005 |
Medium to Strong
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Medium to Strong
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Very Full
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Tolerable to Strong
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| I thought I reviewed this, but I guess I didn't or perhaps it dropped off. In either case, I first tried this blend about a year ago & wasn't impressed. I don't like the taste of anise in tobacco or liquor, though I enjoy it in biscotti or a little in coffee. This blend was always too briny & left an unpleasant aftertaste. Though I never liked it, I respected it for what it was: a unique tobacco creation of Esoterica by master blender JF Germain. Well, once again, outsourcing or tobacco crop failure or recipe changes are afoot here. Previously, I might have given this two stars, but now I'd give it less than one. The anise is not a flavoring, but a sensory overdose. The latakia is hot & one dimensional. Room note is billows of thick, unmemorable smoke. I don't know what's going on, but the last three tins of stuff I've bought or tried have been woefully disappointing. Now I'm hearing rumors that the marvelous Penzance is not being produced or about to undergo some serious changes. Wither pipesmoking? I hope not, as it's one of the few pleasures some of us have left. Yeah, right, I know, get a life, right? I'd be glad to, provided, of course modern times offered a life worth getting.
1/2 of five stars
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Professor
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07/26/2005 |
Mild to Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Tolerable
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| There is a wonderful quote about dreams from one of Shakespeare's late plays that I was _tempted_ to use here, in a cheeky way, but I decided not to waste such a quote on such a tobacco as Esoterica Tobacciana's 'And so to bed'. This weed is so bland, so boring, so bloody bare (stripped of any interesting nuance) that I cannot understand those who praise it. Perhaps that is a bit harsh--like the surprising feeling in my throat after smoking such a relatively light-bodied weed. Granted, even if I do not like the way this stringy stuff packs, this is a solid tobacco. Unfortunately, it tastes so flat that if it were the Earth Columbus would not have dared to sail it (knowing, in this case, rumour of planar was true). I expected something more from this offering, but the wind was let out of my sails. Indeed, my dreams of smoking this with a glass of vintage port (and the rest of that descriptive nonsense on the tin), were dashed. And so, with my own descriptive nonsense written on this rubbish (good quality tobacco badly cut and blended), I am off to bed.
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PhlyPhisher
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07/16/2005 |
Medium
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Mild
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| When I first tried this blend I was pleasantly surprised about its taste. There is a flavor component that might make you think it has been added in during processing. I did a little research via the web on the Greek version of 'Oriental' tobaccos (Basma)and found the discription given for the taste pretty much fit what I experienced. Though its not mentioned on this page as to who the blender is, it is JF Germain & Son.
It was a tad damp when I opened my first tin and need to dry out a little bit. The ribbon is fairly long, but it didn't cause me trouble in packing or during the burn. The sweetness of the Virgina, smokey higlights of the Latakia, the spicy note of the Oriental and an intersting flavor, that reminds me somewhat of Saffron (bitter honey) all fit together for a very plesant smoke. It burned down to leave a fine gray ash. I currently smoke this blend fairly frequently.
I've smoked this blend in pubs that I frequent and haven't had any complaints regarding the room note. I have had one of the bar maids said she liked the smell.
I'm on my 5th tin now and plan to purchase more. It has become one of my current favorites and would recommend it.
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DUPE.1512
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05/21/2005 |
Mild to Medium
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Mild
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| The buttery Greek "Oriental" leaf is the star of this show. This smells and tastes delicious and unique. A quality blend as are all of Esotericas offerings but as others have stated, this gives me a horrible headache. Therefore, while I do enjoy it, the headaches make me take my permanent leave from it.
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RCUSElder
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02/15/2005 |
Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Medium to Full
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| 02-15-2005 Unfortunately, this one put me to bed.
Appearance and Tin aroma: Looks similar to Margate, but with less darker leaf. Smells like there is a high content of Oriental leaaf in the blend, possibly a clove type casing?
Packing and Lighting: Moisture was perfect, loading was typical for a ribbon cut. Stayed lit easily after a second relight.
Initial Flavor: Whoa! Either the flavor is of a particularly fragrant greek or oriental, or there is some sort of casing in this. It reminds me of clove cigarettes, but not as intense.
Mid-bowl: The initial intensity of flavor softens and the flavor is quite deliciously rich. This blend also benefits from DGT. The bad of this blend is also apparent at this point: namely, it is giving me a headache and a thick coating in my mouth.
Bottom of bowl: There is a definite build up of strength of both flavor and nicotine, but it is not overbearing. My headache is getting worse. Ash that is left is fine and grey.
Overall: This is a high quality blend that definitely has a unique flavor. Unfortunately, something in it triggered an allergic reaction in me. Yes, it gave me a whopper of a headache and a mouth coating that would not go away for a while, even when rinsing with a hydrogen peroxide solution. I also developed some hives on my skin that lasted a couple days. The flavor reminded me of Germain's Royal Jersey Latakia mixture, but that one does not affect me like this one did. I suppose that I will stick with Margate, Penzance, Stonehaven, and Tilbury for now.
Rating 2 out of 5 points, yes, chemistry is the culprit.
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Hemlock
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02/06/2005 |
Medium
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Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Tolerable
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| Enjoyable smooth english with a note of some kind of topping. I can't adequately describe the flavour notes of this tobacco, but I am not disappointed. I have smoked a couple bowls and will update this review as I work my way through another dozen pipefulls or so.
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02/02/2005 |
Medium
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Medium
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Tolerable
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| I am updating my review of And So To Bed originally composed about a year ago - tastes change and mine certainly has with this blend which I found to be too overwhelmingly Oriental back then.
Perhaps the composition of the leaf was somehow different this second go round. Perhaps I tried it in better quality pipes. Perhaps my tastes have changed. Bottom line, I smoked a tin over the past week and dadgumit, I like this stuff now!
This blend is stout, yet in an elegant way. It had a subtle sweetness from the Orientals that complimented the Cyprian Latakia marvelously. There does not appear to be any sort of topping or casing and I think the sweetness is a natural by-product of the exquisite Virginia leaf interlaced with the Orientals and Latakia. Although not mild and certainly containing a healthy enough dose of nicotine, And So To Bed refreshes the palate without slapping your tongue around.
Try letting the leaf dry out a bit and give it a quick chop with your knife or blender for best packing and smoking results.
If you are a fan of a classy Oriental/Latakia mixture that doesn't scream "LATAKIA,", then take this stuff to bed and relax, you'll be in pipe puffers heaven!
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