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104: Crooner
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| Tin Description: |
Specially cut cube Burley and deer tongue. An authentic copy from one of Bing's friends who blended it with him. |
| Country of Origin: |
US |
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Air Cured |
| Contents: |
Burley
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Alcohol / Liquor
Deer Tongue
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| Cut: |
Cube |
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Bulk |
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Mild to Medium
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Mild
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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Recommended
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JimInks
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01/03/2013 |
Mild to Medium
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| I just can't handle this. I tried it because I'm a Bing Crosby fan, but this blend should have been buried with him. I had the worst reaction I ever had to tobacco since I started smoking. The floral notes overwhelmed any chance of tasting mint or vanilla or burley. The smell just about drove my wife and friends out of the house when I tried it. It got more complaints from innocent bystanders than anything I ever smoked. I couldn't finish the bowl I was smoking, and now I have to figure out what tobacco will deghost the pipe I tried it in. Obviously, deer tongue is not for me. It's the most disappointing blend I tried in 40 years of smoking.
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Introibo
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08/09/2012 |
Mild to Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| Just got this in a shipment along with some other CD blends. I am a fan of CD blends, but Crooner had never been on the list before.
What a loss. This has to be one of the finest blends I have ever had in my 10-year piping career. Not as long as some, and I can't claim to have encountered as many blends as others on this forum, but I have to say that Crooner is one of those blends that calls out "Here I am, you found me"; we recognise the flavour as something we have been searching for, but could never really describe.
Outstanding burley taste, more like Sir Walter Raleigh than the usual CD burley (dark, strong, and rather angry); slight deer tongue flavour, but not much. A kind of herbal overtone to the burley in the bag, and in the smoke, making it a slightly aromatic, but an unsweetened aromatic.
The only drawback is keeping it lit. Other than that, a superb example of what can be done with burley. I would call it the closest that CD comes to an OTC. Fantastic in every respect.
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LoneRider
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07/27/2012 |
Medium
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| C&D has more blends that stars in the sky it seems. I have smoked quite a few and have enjoyed most overall. To say that I didn't enjoy this one is putting it mildly. After three bowls, I threw the rest in the garbage. I LIKE deer's tongue. The Tinder Box used it very effectively in its '70s rendition of Special. The problem with "Crooner" is that there is WAY too much deer tongue in it. I think I could smoke grass clippings and have a better experience. I think deer's tongue is a hard thing to get just right. In Crooner, it overwhelms the senses. That said, if you want to try a blend with it, try C&D's own "Gentleman Caller." They get the mix just right in it. Better luck next time, Craig.
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JohnnyMcPiperson
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03/11/2011 |
Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| I very much enjoyed this one, again only had a small sample of it, but it was a fascinating blend none the less. I love the herbal flavors imparted from the deer tongue, I've never smoked anything like it and the smell wafting from the small baggy I had was just fascinating to behold from a tobacco, it kind of beckons you to try it. I'll definitely be purchasing a tin at some point.
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Thwarp
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02/05/2011 |
Mild to Medium
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Very Mild
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Medium
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| I just don't know about this.
Smells fine in the tin/bag/pouch. However you buy it. The aroma is an invitation to dabble into the unknown. It actually makes you overly curious about what it will taste like in the bowl. There's no way you can stop yourself once you smell this tin note.
1st lite had me wondering if the flame got to close to my knuckles and i had burnt a few hairs. But this stuff is hard to lite let alone keep lit. A bunch of puffs latter confirmed to me that I wasn't burning the hair off my knuckles. Thats the deer tongue. But once I keep smoking the bowl that pretty much went away. But its still a very weird flavor to put it bluntly.
The room note reminded me of growing up. As a child running through the hot and humid meadows of Up state new york. You can literally smell every weed, flower, every blade of tall grass. Take that as good or bad. For me its a fond memory.
Over all I can't handle the flavor. Its just too ..... alien. Its like nothing you've ever smoked. In fact to be completely honest it made my head spin and gave me nausea for 8 hours. The deer tongue is definately the cuplrit there.
I fail to grasp the old fashioned use of this in tobacco. Some say it was used to give toby more of a vanilla flavor. But it sure does exactly the opposite here.
Gee grandpa what were you thinking?
I won't give this one star when a few people do like it. So I'll give it 2 by saying...... I somewhat reccomend this for curiosity sake only. If you can get past one bowl and want another your a tougher SOB than I am. You'd had to pay me to give it more than the 2 stars.
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TommyKinda
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11/07/2010 |
Mild to Medium
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Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant
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| Good stuff. Not a daily blend but it's good enough to keep around. The cube cut is new to me and I have trouble packing it properly and keeping it lit but I think that's more my inexperience than the tobacco.
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wintermute
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07/11/2010 |
Mild
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Very Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Tolerable
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| I love old time radio and the like, so I had to try this. The cut is cubed and reminds me of Grape Nuts Cereal. There is a slight mint smell when first opened, but that soon goes away. The stuff packs easily, but you do have to know how to pack this kind of tobacco. I recommend light on the bottom and tamped more heavily on top. The light must be thorough and some time must be taken to get it to burn properly. All of us cube cut fans soon learn to work with this style. The flavor is of a medium Burley with just a hint of Virginia. Then, as you might guess, there is the taste of Deer Tongue. Deer Tongue provides the "mint" flavor. This is mint not menthol. And, that flavor stays pretty well balanced with the Burley. The mint flavor puts me more in mind of the mint plant that you might grow near your outdoor water hydrant. That's the overall smell and taste in the pipe. It is kind of grassy and with the deeper wood of Burley goodness. The flavor stays the same down to the last puff. This tobacco is perfect for a Summer day. I am reminded a lot of Carter Hall. Well, if Carter Hall wasn't so fruity and had more taste, it would be real close. This stuff is not an every day smoke, but it is interesting without being complex and goes really well with iced tea rather than coffee. I think that Bing would have been pleased to see his favorite blend still making the rounds. For me, my choice is still Prince Albert for a nice general smoke.
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Sparks
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10/06/2009 |
Medium
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Mild
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| When I first tried this blend I had illusions of grandeur. I was excited about smoking the blend of the great Bing Crosby. Those illusions and the fact that this is a Burley are what got to me to not give up on this blend right out of the gate.
From the package, these little cubes were quite moist. You could just feel it rubbing them between your fingers. I hoped for the best, gravity fed the bowl and fired up. It is a difficult blend to keep lit. I would imagine with some drying time it would burn better, however, I would worry about the heat and the burn rate if it dried out to where it needed to be.
The flavor is great, when you can keep it lit to get the flavor. I enjoyed the Deer Tongue, and the Burley was rich and nutty. Great combination IMO.
In general, not a bad blend, however the the difficulty keeping it lit makes it more troublesome than it is worth. Nice for a change of pace, but not an everyday. 2 stars is the best I can do.
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gillywalker
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08/24/2009 |
Medium
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Medium to Strong
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Crooner was the first premium burly blend I smoked. Love this stuff, I'm a bit put off by the Deertongue only because it's been banned in some countries. However, it's probably silly to worry about the health concerns, you are after all smoking this stuff.
The trick to lighting it is just dipping your pipe in and lighting. Give it two or three char lights then tap down. The aroma before it's lit reminds me of a fresh field from my youth when I'd go fishing. It burns nicely and has a pleasant aroma as well. My only problem is after two bowls I get a pretty lousy after taste in my mouth for a few hours. But for a once a week smoke you can't beat this stuff.
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pipe pirate
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07/17/2009 |
Mild to Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| There are pros and cons to this tobacco.First the pros,good tasting due to the deer tongue and the aroma brought me compliments.Now the cons,smoking this is rather tricky,it's difficult to keep lit unless you take more frequent drags off of, therefore making the pipe rather hot.I asked my local tobacconist and he thinks it's the way it is cut that is making it a tough smoke.This tobacco can attack the tongue if not smoked easy.I still like this stuff and hope to get better at smoking it.
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DK
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07/14/2009 |
Mild to Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| This was an epiphanal blend for me upon smoking the first few bowls. A nice vanilla taste without casing - how cool is that??!? The deertongue flavor remains throughout the smoke, although it becomes more subtle as you get down to the last 1/3 bowl where it becomes more of that nutty burley flavor.
Crooner is a high quality tobacco. My rating is less about if I would recommend it than how it hit me. What happened is that after the first 4 or so bowl, the deertongue flavor wore me out. I don't know why or how. Perhaps I'm just not used to it.
Two stars for how I liked it; four stars for recommending it as something everyone should try once. But for God's sake, give it a dedicated pipe! The flavor is hard to remove from a briar pipe.
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Mountain Man
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07/13/2009 |
Mild to Medium
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Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant
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| I have been smoking crooner for a few weeks now,and it has became one of my #1 go to tobaccos.I absolutely love it.The taste reminds me of granola bars and licorice.It does take a few more relights but isnt that bad after a little practice.I just gravity fill and smoke.I dont even tamp this one.The deertongue really stands out through the first half bowl.Then the sweet,nuttiness of the burleys sneak up on you.This is a great way to experience a flavorfull tobacco without having to smoke low-grade simple aromatics.This is one that I cant do without.
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Punchy
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03/23/2009 |
Medium to Strong
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Medium to Full
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Tolerable
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| Now I know why I never saw any smoke comming from Bing's pipe. I believe it is treated with a flame retardant. Grape nuts anyone? Too bad, it appears to be excellent tobacco.
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periqueguy
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02/20/2009 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium to Full
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Very Pleasant
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| I know from personal experience that this IS a replica of the tobacco Bing Crosby smoked and I have enjoyed it non-exclusively for many years. It's a burley lovers dream with just a little KICK from the added deers tongue.
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john doe
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12/24/2008 |
Mild to Medium
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Pleasant
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the more I smoke this the less I like it. It will be a chore to finish 4 oz. Dropping rating to one star.
Any pipe smokers in Montreal got something worth swapping?
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Well this is something unique. It resembles gunpowder green tea -- tiny balls of rolled up leaves, with the occasional dried shoot of deer tongue. Is there also deer tongue rolled into the tobacco? Where is the vanilla taste coming from? The deer tongue, or a casing?
I must say the deer has a talented tongue. It's licked me in all the right places.
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Packer
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05/04/2008 |
Mild
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| I will start by stating that in the past I have not been a big fan of burley blends. I decided to try again mostly on the reviews found here. I'm glad I did.
This is a strange blend. The burley is like BB's. Packing this blend is in a word.....ODD. I'm never sure if it is packed, or not. I gravity fill the bowl, and the pack tightly. It seems to resist over packing. It lights with a couple of lights, and burns nicely. The flavor is quite sweet, and the deer tongue can be detected. This blend will most likely not be in my daily rotation, but I will keep some around for the times I want to take a detour from the Virginia hiways that I so love. Rate * * *
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XDipper
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04/24/2008 |
Mild to Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| UPDATE: The truth is in consumption. And since my initial sampling of Crooner I haven't re-ordered. It's smokeable enough and the deer tongue provides a decent change of pace from a burleyphiles normal fare but I can't say that Crooner has been or will be any more than a mood tobacco in my current rotation. Please don't misunderstand, it's not bad tobacco but just isn't something that would keep my attention.
Original Review: Got this in a sample pack from C&D. It should be noted right up front that I am a burleyphile. Especially those "pedestrian" blends that harken back to the days when pipe smoking was as much a part of being a man as shaving. All that said, the reviews of this blend were a little hard to gauge. It appeared to be one of those love it or hate it blends. Curious to see what side of the fence I was on I just had to try it. For me at least, it was something totally different. Normally a remark like that is something akin to saying a lady has a really nice personality but not so with Crooner. It was very tasty and an initial "Man, what was that!" quickly became a "Gee, that's some really good stuff." The deer tongue is conspicuous throughout the smoke but never in a mundane, predictable way. It's contributions swing wildly from an herby, earthy kind of flavor (reminding me of cedar) to a very vanilla sort of a taste (without the goop and gum normally associated with a tobacco that tastes like vanilla). All of it's incarnations seemed subtle, tastey and somewhat exotic, unlike anything I had ever smoked before. I was however, always quick to load another bowl. I didn't experience the difficulties keeping this lit that others have reported. It does however demand a fairly robust charring light. Tamp and relight and you're off. The cube cut burley was a very slow, cool burner and true to the classic burley genre, slow and steady (puffing) wins the race. Quicker, aggressive puffing resulted in slightly hotter but never bitey or bitter smoke. It burned clear to the bottom of the bowl with leaving only a clean, dry bed of white ash. Those around me reported a room note something similar to gingerbread. Crooner's niche in my rotation will probably be as the kicked up, something totally different but classic burley nonetheless blend. Burley blends are all about understated simplicity. Occassionally, I crave a bit more complexity without sacrificing everything that's great about an old school burley(smokeability, low maintenance, great taste). Crooner is the cat's pajamas in this role. This is a must try for burley lovers and a blend that could very well convert a non-believer. My lunch time smoke today was a metaphysical experience. I loaded a four digit woodie with Crooner and kicked back for an hour long smoke while reading the newspaper. Beauty says I, very well done and highly recommended.
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Smokering
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04/06/2008 |
Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| Rumor has it a smoke shop in Philadelphia made this for Bing. Rumor also has it that the original Tinder Box in Santa Monica blended it as well. I had the pleasure of talking to Ed Kolpin who is the founder of the Tinder Box and we talked about Bing a bit. Ed carved over -14- pipes for Bing. Ed claimed that Bing also liked Ed's "Special" blend. Bing lived close to the store and frequented it oten. The Santa Monica store still has the original recipes. The Tinder Box chain does not. I am not hating on the Tinder Box chain but I live 20 minutes from the original store and I will take their word for it. Back to Crooner. Nice cube cut burley mixed with deer tongue. That's it. Nothing more nothing less. I smoke it in my Savinelli Bings favorite pipes, Wilmer Bel Air and an original pipe carved by Ed that was carved for Bing, but Bing passed on in 1977 and never picked the pipe up. Smokes cool in the Crosby shape pipe with the longer stem. Sometimes I mix with BCA for a sweeter taste in my Meerschaums. I am a proud member of the ICC ( International Crosby Circle ), so I am a little biased to this blend. On the other hand I have always enjoyed rough cut burley. Keep in mind when you smoke this blend it is a pant burner!! Smoke slow and enjoy. A little Bing Crosby music in the background helps out as well!
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Blackhorse
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02/07/2008 |
Medium
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Tolerable
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| Initial 2003: I picked up an ounce of this interesting blend with another order and initially liked it enough to order more. I liked the sweet nutty Burley flavor (yes, smells just a bit of vanilla in the pouch to me too). The ounce sample had quite sparse flecks of "the tongue". Over the course of a day I tried it in three pipes with mixed results. The best was the first, a Peterson's Emerald Half Bent Rhodesian...smallish bowl. I could easily catch the sweet nutty Burley - counterplayed with the occasional Tongue. I'll use the word "interesting". Though there are elements here that I enjoy they never came together for me. Perhaps I'm just looking for a different flavor profile. Also, perhaps if I had one of those "Bing's" Savinelli's (I'm pretty sure we all need at least one more pipe) it would feel more at home and behave better.
Revisited 2008: Tried this again and it did not impress. There are too many other amazing offerings right now to spend more time puffing "tongue-weed".
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smokey
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10/14/2007 |
Medium to Strong
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Very Mild
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Mild
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| Most of the previous reviews have covered the various aspects of Crooner. I've had my best luck with it by gravity filling the pipe half full, packing lightly, then gravity filling the pipe full and packing firmly. It can still be a chore to get going, often requiring several relights at the start. Once you do finally get it lit, it burns pretty well. This may be because this is the largest cubed burley I've ever seen.
Crooner has the classic burley nuttiness, with an added bonus of the vanilla notes coming from the deer tongue. Some like it, some don't, I personally find the vanilla flavor adds to the pleasure of the smoke. It is a little more assertive than in blends like Hearth and Home's Old Tartan and Capitol Stairs, and I will say that I prefer the latter two to this blend. If you've read the other reviews, you know that opinions vary widely on this blend, so I would recommend getting a sampler before making a final decision to order a pound.
Scores for Crooner; flavor-13 of 20; packing and burn-7 of 10; value-7 of 10. Crooner gets 27 points and a *** rating.
Update 10/07- After smoking more of this tobacco, I find I am not as fond of the taste as I was at first. I am downgrading it to two stars.
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