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No.44 Dark Virginia Flake
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Astley's |
| Blender: |
Kohlhase, Kopp und Co. KG |
| Tin Description: |
A dark Virginia flake that is full of flavor but easy on the tongue. Citrus notes are detectable. |
| Country of Origin: |
DE |
| Curing Group: |
Air Cured |
| Contents: |
Virginia
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| Cut: |
Flake |
| Packaging: |
50g Tin |
| Blend Notes: |
Originally blended in England. |
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Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Recommendation: |
Recommended
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rogermugs
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03/01/2013 |
Medium to Strong
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Mild
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Medium to Full
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| This is my second Astley's, I've tried 109 and now this.
Let me first say this will not bite your tongue even a bit (unless you're ... um.... short-bus different).
It is a very pleasant smoke, though I find I prefer 109.
I've read of virginias that they tend to start out rather meaningless and grow more pleasant as you smoke through the bowl. That was definitely my experience with 109, and one of the reasons I loved it.... however 44 doesn't seem to change much throughout. That's not to say it's bad. I'm a fan actually. But is quite a bit stronger, and I would say stronger at the expense of flavor personally, I find the 109 to be more flavorful. But if it's strength, especially Lady St. Nic you're looking for ... 44 is the way to go.
VERY strong. I haven't been this buzzed on a pipe tobacco in.... ever. (But I don't smoke a lot of strong blends)
Highly recommended. This is confirming for me thus far that Astley's blends are really THE way to go if you're looking tins... I'm a huge fan of both of these.
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O'Confrère
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02/27/2013 |
Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Medium to Full
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Darkly mottled broken flake, the tin reviewed is from 2008.
Tin aroma: Appetizing, lightly fruity, hay and earthiness.
As all K&K mixtures, it burns very well.
At the match: bright elements, tangy (lemon grass?).
Settles quickly to a creamy nuttiness (Kentucky burley?) with some depth, yet still allowing a fruitiness in the nose/sidestream.
Mid-bowl develops more depth and a rich earthiness. A fine blend of quality tobaccoes... The slower the burn the richer the spectrum of flavors and the fuller the body.
Producing copius amounts of smoke, this is a mouthful, truly a rich dark virginia flake. Recommended!
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JimInks
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01/04/2013 |
Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| I do detect the citrus note and there is maybe the slightest notion of dark chocolate, too, along with a little hay-taste. There is another slightly sweet note that I can't define, but maybe it's just the natural sweetness of the Virginia. This is a very flavorful smoke, though not as complex as some others think. It's a great straight Virginia smoke, and as such, it may bite a fast puffer. Like most Virginias, it improves with age and I find the aged version to be smoother with less chance of tongue bite. It's not really a "biter" tobacco, so don't dwell on it like I just did. If you like a straight forward dark Virginia smoke, this is a good pick. If you need spice, well, either add perique or buy Marlin Flake. I'm a perique lover, but I prefer to enjoy this on its own merits, which are plenty. You'll agree with me when you try it, especially if you give it a chance to age a little.
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cakeanddottle
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09/18/2012 |
Medium
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Mild
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| This is one of my favorite Va's, and my favorite straight Va from K&K.
The best way to describe this one to someone by comparing it to another tobacco is to say it's in the same zip code as Marlin Flake. Unlike MF this one is a straight Va, so you get no spicy/smoky notes. The sweetness here is also better to my palate, more natural and doesn't quite draw attention to itself but at the same time occurs more readily. It definitely has that oat-y honey to it. This one also has a first rate tobacco satisfaction quotient. The nicotine is adequate, but there is just something here that scratches the tobacco itch. Top notch tobacco with plenty of Va sugar, this one is one of my very favorite tobaccos.
The only Va's I would prefer over this one and it's cousin Marlin Flake are BBF and FVF. Really excellent tobacco.
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Claudius Stradivarius
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07/23/2010 |
Medium
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Mild
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| This square shaped flake needs to be aged. After a couple years it does wonderfully.
The aroma is close to red wine. It smells like McConnel's Scottish Flake. The flakes are not dark by all means.
It smokes well and provides nice nicotine.
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pipesomkinsquirrel
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04/08/2010 |
Strong
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None detected
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Full
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Pleasant
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| This was the first Astley's tobacco I have ever sampled as well as the first Virginia of its kind. What can I say? I was quite satisfied. The tin states dark and strong, and that is exactly what I got out of it.
It is actually a lot more complex than that. Being no stranger to many VA/per flakes, this was the first "dark" one I had ever tried. Upon opening the tin, I found the moisture content to be a bit heavy. I let the tin sit on the rack for about a month, and then one day I realized I had a tobacco I had never tried.
I opened the tin once again, and wow what a difference. The aroma was not at all citrus that I got, but almost like a chocolate. Not an artificial candy bar type chocolate, but raw dark chocolate. Quite exquisite to tell you the truth.
The flakes are easy enough to manage, though not the easiest maybe for a novice to this style of pipe weed. Once I broke the flakes into the consistency I desired, I set out to a park bench to give this a good try. I loaded up an apple shaped Bjarne Viking, and cleared my mind as to give this an honest shake.
I had a little bit of trouble getting this blend going, but I do not think that was the fault of the tobacco per-say, but the fault of my loading technique. Once lit, this behaved very well.
Upon the first few puffs I was quite enthralled with this blend. Never had I tasted such a robust and full bodied Virginia without the addition of Perique. The bitter sweet flavour of raw chocolate seemed to carry over to the smoke and make an appearance every few minutes or so.
Not once did this bite, but I was also very careful with this blend dedicating about an hour and a half to this bowl. Moderate tamping and an occasional re-light were required, but neither took away from the enjoyment of this blend.
I smoked this leaf all the way down to a fine ash in my bowl, where at the end I was experiencing a little "chimney mouth" but no bite. I think the next time I smoke this it will be in a smaller bowl pipe, and I will not try to get the last speck of tobacco to burn to a white ember.
The strength was defiantly there, and I was able to leave my park bench feeling satisfied.
I would recommend this to anyone who enjoys a hardy VA or a VA/Per smoker who might be looking to branch out just a bit.
This tobacco goes very well with a good cup of freshly brewed strong black coffee or espresso. I think this could easily pass for an after dinner smoke for a straight VA smoker as well. Maybe pair it with a cognac or an oatmeal stout, and you would be in paradise.
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DK
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03/17/2010 |
Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| This one seems to have fallen off the radar here at tr.com - no reviews since late 2008. Odd, since this is such a wonderfully realized VA. I've noted that some people have tasted perique in this flake. I have not, but I can certainly see why some people would think so. This is a beautiful flake of dark(er) color, but not dark - nice, small flakes of a more wheat brown hue. The sweetness in the smoke seems to be slightly enhanced but nothing I can put my finger on. Citrus notes are indeed in evidence.
Since Rattray's MF seems to be the measuring stick around here, I'll say that this has significantly more flavor than MF, yet is congenial with an easy burn. Smokers of MF might find this a little robust, but it's actually of medium strength. This is a VA flake that must be sampled by anyone looking for the ultimate in the genre. This just might be it for you. I prefer Gawith's FVF personally but this is one that I plan to cellar a few tins for those times I want a tad more sweetness in my bowl. Excellent tobacco, and it makes me want to take a run through the rest of the Astley's line.
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Pseudo Nim
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12/05/2008 |
Medium
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None detected
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| An excellent medium strength virginia, full of flavour and tasty, packs easy and burns well all the way down with one match, no bite and smooth. Taste wise, a notch or so up from Marlin Flake. A fine quality virginia, superb for an evening smoke when one wants a little peace and an easy going smoke but with enough flavour to remind us why we smoke a pipe.
Four Stars without a doubt.
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puro66
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06/19/2007 |
Medium
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None detected
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| This is an excellent well balanced virginia. In my opinion the best in the Astley line. I've smoked many tins of this, often as a substitute for Marlin Flake. It's not as good as MF but it is close. Virginia fans will enjoy.
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Jakob Kiilerich
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09/27/2005 |
Medium
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None detected
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Medium to Full
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Very Pleasant
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| ************************* UPDATE Sep. 2005 *********** Quote; myself later in this review: "This is the best VA-flake I have ever tried! It is better than Marlin!" This is a statement that I must withdraw. I stil like #44, but after my new venture into the Samuel Gawith line of Lakeland flakes, #44 can no longer compete. ******************************************************
This is the best VA-flake I have ever tried! It is better than Marlin!
This classic contains everything I expect from quality VA: Depth, natural sweetness, complexity, stoved notes, nicotine etc. I cannot help myself feeling as one of the pipesmokers in the earlier days when tobacco had that all natural "tobacco" thing to it. I feel like an English gentleman when smoking this manna from heaven.
Even though Kohlhase & Kopp has taken over the production, adding propyleneglycol insted of water and therefore changing the texture and looks of the leaf, they have managed to preserve the original taste of good English Virginia.
Heavy with plumes of sweet non-blistering smoke, #44 tickles my nostrils and send me to another plane where I do not wish to leave.
The best thing that has happened to pipe smoking. #44 goes hand in hand with St. Bruno in my regular rotation.
Outstanding!
Jakob Kiilerich, Denmark
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Lochinvar
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09/01/2005 |
Mild to Medium
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None detected
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| This is another fine Virginia from Astley's. It is deep cool and dark and , while not one to knock you socks off, is suitable for all day use. I find it very hard to overheat it, and even when I do it's not bad.
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Mr. Dottle
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10/12/2004 |
Medium
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None detected
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| This proved to be a great smoke for the first two-thirds of the bowl. But towards the bottom third of the bowl, in many different pipes, this tobacco grew hot, to everyone?s dislike, and spicy, to my dislike. Perique overload? Perique is supposedly not an ingredient in this blend. Also, it will bite if not careful. I am no stranger to VA blends but this blend just didn?t do it for me: each bowl was very rewarding at first only to ?slap me in the face? later. I have to be negative because of this characteristic; I won?t be trying it again. As regards Astley?s blends, #109 blend doesn?t treat me this badly and, as such, I like it much better.
I rate this tobacco 5.0 out of 10.
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Briarabbit
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12/30/2003 |
Mild to Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| Excellent African Virginia leaf that's been steamed and pressed like a good suit.This really brings out the natural sugars and wonderful taste. The dark flakes in my tin were barely broken up. The tin aroma is soft and deep natural tobacco. The smoke tastes like Virginia should taste, gooood and laid back, a bit of the tang,and very fresh. This is a goooood backy!
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LoisKelly
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11/19/2003 |
Strong
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None detected
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Full
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Tolerable to Strong
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| Compared to No. 109, No. 44 comes up short. The tin may say "dark", but it is (visually) lighter than its sibling. It may appeal to fans of drier, less sweet VAs, and packs more of a kick than 109, but cannot match the latter in terms of smoothness, taste, lushness, and overall quality.
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SFC/E7
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07/25/2003 |
Medium to Strong
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None detected
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Medium
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Tolerable
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| This being my first experience with the Astleys tobacco, I was a little leery of the taste and the strength as I prefer the Danish Blends.
This was an open tin that was given to me so I cannot really comment on my impression of the freshness, although the tobacco was not dry and packed well. The tobacco smoked very well with no harsness or tongue bite, I did detect a subtle hint of sweetness in the taste as the tobacco burned slowly to the bottom of the bowl.
The one impression I did receive from No. 44 that it left me satisfied like that of the first cup of a rich Columbian Coffee in the morning.
This will be added to my shelf of occasional tobaccos to smoke.
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NEWMAN
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06/04/2003 |
Medium to Strong
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None detected
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Medium to Full
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| This is another good tobacco from Astleys via the German blender, Kohlhase & Kopp. The cakes of golden and brown VA are ~ 1.5"x2", pliable with an ideal moisture content and therefore, ideally suited to my normal packing technique with no rubout. This also results in easy lights and an effortless smoke. The tin aroma and taste are just from high quality VAs which is also my preference. The room aroma is strong and woodsy but not so harsh as to bother my family. A rich, cool, very tasty, natural, straight VA that should be tried by those that might enjoy these flakes.
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Paddy
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04/28/2003 |
Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Pleasant
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| I like this blend and 109 the best of the Astley Virginias. Highly refined tobacco in small, dark flakes. Very pliable, easy to pack and lights quickly. It smokes to a fine white ash all the way down to the dottle with very little tending. My problem with this tobacco and with the other Astely's I have smoked is that they do not deliver a big Virginia flavor. They all seem to fall into a very narrow range of flavor: Thoroughly processed, quality tobacco with very little tobacco flavor together with a light sweetener. They also have tendency to burn a little hot, hotter than McClelland's. However, they do not bite, with the exception of #55 at times. I would not place #44 or the other Astey blends in the upper tier of Virginia tobaccos. Paddy.
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Pipestud
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02/16/2003 |
Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| This stuff is good! Like Tantric, I found Astley's #44 to be remarkably similiar to Rattray's Hal O the Wynd. But, the square cut flakes rubbed out beautifully for me while Tantric found the rub out to be a chore. Perhaps my tin had more age to it and the flakes were drier.
Unlike Astley's #109, which I found to be lacking in the flavor department, #44 is much richer and boasts a nicotine wallop worth seeking. Not as elegant as Hal O the Wynd, but still a gratifying smoke.
This is a dark Virginia, pressed with a bit of bright. No tangy smell or citrus flavor here. Just a straight forward tobacco taste. I am sure this blend will age beautifully. So, I will be making room for several tins in my cellar.
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BriarNorth
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01/28/2003 |
Medium
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Medium to Full
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| I concur with the gentlemen above that this is superb smoke. The flakes are faily loose to me (but then, I smoke Erinmore flakes now and then...try rubbing those out!) so they crumbled and packed into the bowl just fine. Flavour is pure Virgnia goodness, crisp, toasty and sweet. True tobacco flavour here, no frills, just good straight-on Virginia. Tongue-wise, you're always living on the edge with straight Virginias, eh? So this one's no different. With a gentle puffing rhythm, this smokes quite cool. Highly recommended for the Virginia lover. I'll be stashing some tins for sure.
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Willy
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01/24/2003 |
Medium to Strong
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Medium to Full
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| This, IMO, has to be one of, if not the best, VA tobaccos I've smoked. The short flakes are colors of golds & browns. The tin aroma is delicious, I just wish I could put other words to it. I've smelled that smell before, I just can't seem to place it. The aroma almost makes your mouth water. Rubs out well, packs equally well, lights well, almost a one-light deal. Moisture level was spot-on, at least for me. Mildly tangy as well as spicey and citrusy, it is, as the description says, full of flavor and very easy on the tongue. That tin aroma peeks in during the smoke w/bits of light sweetness here and there. Slight woodsy notes, nice and rich. Tasty, very tasty. Cool and creamy w/a flavor that's consistent to the bottom of the bowl where you find a small amount of fluffy gray ash when you're finished. Never harsh and only minor gurgling. Used one cleaner about 1/2way down the bowl, that's all. I have a coupla favorite Castellos, a bent G65 Sea Rock and a straight 3k #25 Sea Rock I've been smoking this in and they will not see anything but this tobak from here on. This to me is VA tobak at its finest. All three Astley's I've tried (#109, #55, #44) are most enjoyable, and I'm looking forward to trying #2 as well, but for now I'm really liking #44, and dare I say, this could easily be my favorite so far. Others have spoken of their island favorite, that one tobak they would hafta have. As of right now, this would be mine. As w/other Astley's this is a wee bit pricey, but, not moreso than some other high-end tobaccos. IMHO it's well worth it, and I will be getting more soon. Delectable. Highest accolades. Most assuredly works for me!
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