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Dark Birdseye
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Gawith, Hoggarth & Co. |
| Tin Description: |
Manufactured from Dark tobacco 'whole leaf' rather than strips, the mid-rib (or stem) gives the 'birds eye' effect when cut. A strong smoke which was particularly favored by the fishermen as the finer cut meant the tobacco was easier to light and to keep-in on board ship when the weather was bad. |
| Country of Origin: |
UK |
| Curing Group: |
Flue Cured |
| Contents: |
Virginia
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| Cut: |
Ribbon |
| Packaging: |
Bulk |
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Strong
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Extremely Mild
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Full
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Tolerable
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Recommended
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JimInks
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09/25/2012 |
Strong
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Very Mild
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Full
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Tolerable to Strong
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| This has a great taste to it, but smoke it in a small bowl or have a little something on your stomach if you use a bigger pipe for it. It's not a complex smoke, but it doesn't have to be; the semi-sweet taste will fill your senses and is consistently pleasing. The room note is rather strong. There's no mention of burley in the description, but it's here. It reminds me of Kendall Kentucky, which is a just a little stronger in intensity and nicotine, but this is no light tobacco. I like the cut of it and it burns well, cool, and slow. It may need a little drying time when you first open the bag. If you want a strong, tasty tobacco that doesn't knock you on your fanny, you'll like this.
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ap
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08/14/2012 |
Very Strong
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None detected
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Medium to Full
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Tolerable
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| This one is the Va version of KK, lighter in flavour and a little sweeter, but with the same amazing nicotine punch. Cool smoking and great burning leaf!!!
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itsKoit
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03/22/2012 |
Very Strong
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Mild
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Full
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Tolerable to Strong
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| Long, stringy shag that fills a pipe easily and takes a light like a champ. Cool, slow burning and a good flavorful kick, what more could anyone want? The flavoring is rather light, just enough to let you know it's there. I'm not well versed with lakeland tobaccos so i cannot say what the flavoring is, or if it's the typical lakeland floral that many either love or hate. As for me, I like it! The nicotine content will slap you in the face if you're not careful! I made the mistake of smoking this from a larger bowled lovat and I swear I turned green, and I've never had that problem before with any tobacco. Don't let that scare you, it's a friendly tobacco that anyone can enjoy, just watch yourself and exercise some control.
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StylesSharpman
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03/06/2012 |
Medium to Strong
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Medium to Full
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Fastest way I found to cake a bowl. At the end of my 4oz. sample I could barley get a pencil into my pipes bowl. Anyway, I love this stuff so i give Dark Birdseye three thumbs up- i have three arms so I can do that.
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chaplikc
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01/31/2012 |
Medium to Strong
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None detected
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Medium to Full
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| I realy enjoy this blend. Although this is listed as a virginia blend I detect a small amount of burley. I prefer stronger blends and I would categorize this as a medium strong blend. It smokes cool and the flavor is great. I feel this is a great intoduction for those that want to try G&H blends but are afraid of the Lakeland essence. I would give this a 4 star rating but I generaly do not like shag cuts, I give this one an exception though because of its aother great qualitys. 3.5 stars and I recommend this blend!
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SteelCowboy
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12/18/2011 |
Strong
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Extremely Mild
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Full
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Tolerable to Strong
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| Straight forward, strong tobacco with a slight sweetness and just enough Lakeland flavors that you know it’s a Lakeland style tobacco, but, its 99.9% pure tobacco taste. There is no complexity to this blend, it burns cleanly and doesn’t bite. I like strong tobaccos, and I am a big fan of GH blends, but this is a miss for me as I simply don’t like the taste and it would be useful only as a quick nic hit. However, fans of dark rope tobacco will find a happy home here. Somewhat Recommended
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sailor dave
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12/08/2011 |
Strong
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Mild
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Mild
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Tolerable
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| This is what I would call an honest tobacco. No frills, bells or whistles. Just good tobacco taste and a good nicotine punch. It’s a "one note" taste with little to no complexities, at least to me. I prefer a strong first pipe of the day and this fits the bill on some mornings. I do trade this off with Chelsea Morning and Nightcap. Not 4 stars because of its "simple" taste but one to consider keeping in my rotation for a morning smoke.
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BingCrosby
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10/03/2011 |
Very Strong
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Very Mild
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Medium to Full
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Tolerable to Strong
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| this one is a wild stallion.. if you are a fan of stronger tobaccos like 1792, irish flake, royal yacht, etc.. give this one a try.. it has a pleasant subdued dark fired sort of flavor but also has a dash of lakeland essence to it.. very strong, very satisfying.. 4 stars for those who seek nicotene punches.. 3 stars for me, its good stuff
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PIE-EYED-PIPER
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07/25/2011 |
Medium to Strong
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Extremely Mild
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Medium
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Tolerable
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| A no frills, no nonsense tobacco. Flavor wise, I find it to be plain with a hint of sweetness to it. It is easy to pack, cool burning, with no detectable bites.
This is by no means a bad thing as what you get is a true smoking experience of what a good pipe tobacco is. Word of caution, treat it with respect and smoke it lightly as this tobacco packs a punch.
I would RECOMMEND this.
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Blackhorse
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07/05/2011 |
Very Strong
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Extremely Mild
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Full
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Strong
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| Reading down the years of varied comments on this, as with most G & H dark blends is not only interesting but rather comical on occasion: Lakeland character...it's soapy...it's not soapy; N factor...it's the strongest weed on the planet...it's just right; room note...it stinks...it's ambrosia on the halfshell; the cut is a bust...the shag is ideal. And so it goes. Me? I love the stuff. Has that non-latakia (in other words full and round, not thin and sharp) flue cured flavor akin to Dark Plug/Flake for which Gawith is justly diefied. I think that Hemlock has the right idea and expresses his cogent thoughts in a manner that allows us to 'feel' the target of his admiration. That this blend represents what so very few others in the field accomplish...that of being an archetype...is just exactly right. It is simplicity as well as zenith. To a well experienced tobacco man, one not willing to be lured unto the dark side of the kingdom...or having been there and back...this provides a subtle purity of flavor, an unapologetic strength and a ready to enjoy cut that make it arguably THE epitome of pipe smoking excellence. If this isn't Burley...then it's what some long lost genius discovered he could do with VA to MAKE it so. Is it the best stuff there is? Well, actually...no. I find this on a par with Dark Flake/Dark Plug and sliced Sweet Rum Twist, for varied reasons. And Germain's Stonehaven as well as John Patton's brilliant Storm Front also vie for top honors. You can shout "Amen!" or "Heresy!" or just walk away shaking your head. To me, having found a half dozen such blends is well worth the forty years and likely close to a half million dollars that it required.
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yinyang
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07/04/2011 |
Strong
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Very Mild
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Tolerable to Strong
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| As someone who has been going through two or three pouches of Five Bros. a month, I was keen to try DBE. A VA interpretation of Five Bros.? Yes, please! Oddly, my first several bowls were unmemorable, in fact, I thought it was the Brothers redone. But as I continued through my sample bag, it became apparent it wasn't. The Lake essence is there, for starters (although ridiculously mild). A pleasant addition to my palate for sure. But even as strong as this blend is, it's rather sweet! Where I started thinking it was a straight Kentuckified Burley, I realized no, the description may well be right...a Virginia. The preparation is similar, I reckon, making it easier to be confused. Regardless of what variety of leaf used, the bottom line is it's damned enjoyable. Unlike the aforementioned Five Bros.(Can you tell where I'm coming from, comparison wise, yet? ;)) Dark Birdseye doesn't 'wear me out'...taxed tongue, wasted palate, etc. I could smoke this all day. This is even more remarkable because typically VA blends do just this to me when smoked bowl after bowl. I admit my high nicotine tolerance makes this assertion possible, though.
I have smoked DBE in cobs, clays, Falcons, briars and even a meer, and it performs well in all. I really can't think of any real negative I've encountered with it. I suppose if you dislike packing shag cuts, or despise their burn characteristics, you may dislike this one. Same if you're nicotine sensitive or annoyed by Lakelands in general. But for me, this one here is a keeper.
Four enthusiastic stars.
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PipesterJim
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04/10/2011 |
Very Strong
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Extremely Mild
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Full
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Pleasant
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| Hot damn! This one is love at first puff for me. I am definitely a fan of the stronger GH&Co baccies, and almost always have some Brown Irish or Dark Flake (or both) on hand for regular enjoyment. Having read in a previous review that this one probably approximates the contents of the great detective's persian slipper, well, I just had to give it a go.
The weed was very moist on arrival and needed a couple of hours of airing to reach what I consider an appropriate level of hydration for a pleasant smoke. When it was ready, in homage to Jeremy Brett's seminal portrayal of Holmes, I loaded up my recently cleaned churchwarden and settled down on a comfortable perch.
Thanks to its shag cut the tobacco took a flame easily, with absolutely no fuss and surprisingly little 'crowning', and I was engulfed in thick clouds of pungent and potent smoke. To my tastes, this one displays slightly more usual VA characteristics than the blends mentioned earlier. I imagine you would actually get a similar taste combo if you loaded your bowl with a 50:50 mix of the Brown Irish and Dark Flake, except that Dark Birdseye has a touch more natural sweetness, and the different elements seem more 'melded' than they would be if you filled up with the two distinct blends.
This tobacco burns fast, but not hot. The speed of combustion is possibly one reason why it delivers such a serious nicotine punch. Seriously folks, even with my proclivity for the strong stuff, it really gave me a wallop. Lovely!
To my mind this is classic stuff and I recommend it wholeheartedly to those that enjoy strong, flavoursome British tobaccos. It ain't complex, but it is tasty, satisfying and thoroughly deserving of a place in my cellar alongside the aforementioned GH&Co blends.
PS. And for those who are bothered by such things, I detect no trace of the 'lakeland essence' in this one.
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Kilmarnock Piper
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02/23/2011 |
Very Strong
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Extremely Mild
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Very Full
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Tolerable to Strong
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| I don't have too much to add on this one. I find it to be very similar to Kendal Kentucky. I keep a few tobaccos like this in my collection, but they are not my everyday smoke. Tastes more like Kentucky-cured Burley than Virginia to me, but what do I know? Virginia could be made to taste like this, I suppose, if cured in a certain way. This is not subtle. There are no fine nuances of flavor. This is man's 'baccy, must be sipped unless you are a better man than I, and yet now that I have tasted this and KK, these strong Burley shags are something I will always keep (small amounts of) around. Blowing this out my nose makes me feel like I'm taking snuff!
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bryantm3
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12/19/2010 |
Extremely Strong
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None detected
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Very Full
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Tolerable to Strong
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| Wow! Light up a bowl of this and you'll be well on your way to vomit city— it's a damned strong tobacco. Many say that this is high in nicotine content, but I'm not so sure. I know that the tobacco itself is extremely harsh— inhaling this will lead to intense coughing.
I couldn't smoke this stuff in a pipe, so I put it aside (I don't know where I put it, and frankly I'd rather not find it). A few months later, someone rolled me a cigarette with, I think it was 'Drum' tobacco, and that was it— Dark Birdseye for a fraction of the price. I can't say that it's cigaretteish, because Drum tobacco tastes nothing like the pre-packaged cigarettes, but it is certainly very similar to Drum. This tobacco would probably be better off in small quantities, in cigarettes or in a filtered pipe (I don't own any), because in a regular pipe this will knock you out.
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Dr. Scott
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12/04/2010 |
Strong
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Mild to Medium
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Strong
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| Dark Birdseye has that wonderful G, H & Co. shag cut that makes it so easy to pack and smoke. It also has their Lakeland essence, but it is applied with some restraint. The floral perfume is present from beginning to end, with frequent soapy notes, but it does not overwhelm the tobacco. After a few minutes, you really don't notice the perfume at all, just strong tobacco flavor.
Nicotine is strong, an even higher dose than in their Kendal Kentucky.
Like KK, it must be sipped very slowly to get the flavor, otherwise it is harsh and hot.
Note on room note: This tobacco gets a strong thumbs down from the wife, who says it smells like cigarettes. I can smoke this one only when the house is deserted or everyone is asleep.
Its place in the rotation: Dark Birdseye is the only Lakeland I keep around. Better flavor than Kendal Kentucky, and it is one of the strongest nicotine doses you will find. With its ease of packing and smoking, it gets a place in the regular rotation. For those who enjoy the Lakeland blends and don't mind its light perfume, it's the pick of its class.
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newmission
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11/23/2010 |
Medium to Strong
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Extremely Mild
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Medium to Full
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Very Pleasant
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| Just got my hands on this blend along with some Kendall Kentucky and some other blends from 4 Noggins. This blend did not surprise me in quality but it did in flavor. My area has no 'good' tobacco shops so getting any quality blends is impossible. Smoking this only moments after it came in the mail was like meeting an old friend that you have not seen or spoken with in years. It just made me feel 'at home' again. Its a great shag cut with intense natural flavor. I am looking forward to a calm, easy smoke in a big bowl over the Holiday weekend to really get the full body from this blend. Notes of Lakeland are very subtle and vanish after the first few pulls. It then opens up to a full body smoke with wood tones, a hint of sweetness and finishes out with a nice robust nutty flavor. Thanks 4 Noggins for suggesting this blend to me. This will be in my rotation for years to come. Highly suggested to anyone looking to try a quality, straight and robust tobac.
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hufflepuff
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03/21/2010 |
Strong
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Extremely Mild
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Very Full
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Tolerable
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| Shag cut and needs only a little bit of drying. On first light I get just a hint of that lakeland scent but it quickly dissipates. This is a full natural flavor tobacco smoke. Burns nicely and quickly develops a full nuttiness that never seems harsh like some other blends of this strength. Overall a very nice smoke although I think I like Kendal Kentucky a touch better.
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bent-1
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02/24/2010 |
Medium to Strong
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None detected
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Full
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Tolerable
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| It's a thin ribbon/shag cut, a style that I really enjoy. DBE has a full bodied, semi sweet taste that does best for me in a dedicated pipe, sipped slowly, packed tightly. I like it best in group 2-3 pipes (no larger than .750"/19mm chamber ID'd bowls). It's flavor is consistent from initial light to last puff, nary a gurgle, and no Lakeland soap taste. I'm having difficulty describing the taste, just like it. Just like 5 Brothers, nothing else seems to substitute.
I tend to review only blends I really like, this one is among them.
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late-nitedrydrunk
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02/19/2010 |
Strong
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Medium to Full
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| One of my favorites. Dark birdseye has a very rich flavor enhanced by the dark fire cured tobacco, which adds a subtle smokey character, although perhaps not as much so as in Dark Flake. And while some smokers may expect some harshness with this type of tobacco, to my palate I detect not a trace. I believe flavor wise that DBE lies somewhere in between Dark Flake and the GH brown ropes. Richer flavor than brown bogie or brown irish twist but not as bold as Dark Flake, which makes it a perfect morning or all day smoke. Also, I detect little to none of the Lakeland essence. Easy to stay lit as one would expect from the cut, but it also has a tendency to dry out if not always stored in a jar. I rated this as strong for people new to this type of tobacco, however well seasoned smokers might find it closer to medium in strength.
PS: Another reviewer made a comment about the "gingery" scent of the tobacco in the jar. I could never put my finger on it before, but that's a very accurate description.
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Hemlock
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01/15/2010 |
Extremely Strong
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Extra Full
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Very Strong
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| Having opened a mason jar of a few ounces of bulk sealed for several years, I cannot stop smoking this one. Beautiful shag cut and likely what Sherlock was smoking. It seems similar to high quality rolling tobacco, but is evidently so rich to be obviously only for your most well-seasoned dedicated natural blend pipes.
It is full, earthy, dry and smoky. Will smoke a whole bowl without relighting, and only the odd tamp. There is a fulfilling mouth feel, huge volumes of smoke and gradual, but very evident nicotine satisfaction. This is downright addictive to this pipeman, and I'm sure not complaining when I say that.
Frankly, it is so plain, with little more than an earthy, dry burley (I'm not convinced this is VA) flavour that promises nothing more than honesty and genuine tobacco character. It is thus an archetypal tobacco, meant for the enjoyment only by the initiated. It is so clean that cake may never form in your briar, and it will always leave your senses feeling freshened, rather than dulled as some blends do. It smells great in the traditional masculine tobacco sense.
To smoke it and to love it, is surely akin to sharing a sensory and transcendental experience with our venerable pipe smoking brothers from the centuries past, long since dead and gone.
Smoke it only if you're in love with tobacco.
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