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Presbyterian Mixture
| Brand: |
William P. Solomon |
| Blender: |
Planta |
| Tin Description: |
Extraordinary soft blend of finest US Virginia
grades and a number of selected Latakia leaf tips. |
| Country of Origin: |
DE |
| Curing Group: |
Air Cured |
| Contents: |
Virginia
Latakia
Oriental
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| Cut: |
Coarse Cut |
| Packaging: |
50g Tin |
| Blend Notes: |
This fine tobacco originally had no name. It was
blended before the first World War especially for
the Very Rev. Dr. John White, sometime minister of
the Barony Kirk in Glasgow and Moderator of the
General Assembly in Scotland in 1929. He
introduced it to Stanley Baldwin, later Earl
Baldwin, Prime Ministerin 1923, 1924 and 1935. He
liked it so much that regular supplies were sent
down to him and it was he who suggested that it be
called "Presbyterian Mixture".
As there continues to be controversy over the
question of whether Presbyterian Mixture contains
Latakia, the following quote from page six of the
blender's 2008 catalogue should leave the matter
settled: "Extraordinarily soft blend of finest US
Virginia grades and a number of selected Latakia
leaf tips. Ideal mixture also for beginners with
English tobaccos."
Pipe Tobacco Hall of Fame Inductee. |
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Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Recommendation: |
Recommended
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Mackle R
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10/01/2010 |
Mild to Medium
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None detected
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Mild
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| I bought a tin 2 days ago. Im nearly through the whole tin now. Very unique note in the tin. Reminds me of peat moss or old wet mulch. Some have said wet leather. Seems a touch wet in the tin, yet I dont have any trouble with it in the bowl. Tried it after drying a bit and it seems very close to the same experience right out of the tin. The first bowl didnt grab my attention to be honest. The second bowl exposed a very interesting dusty sour taste. Then the sweetness comes in and balances the sour. I love this stuff. It doesnt remind me of an English blend. Its just very unique. It will grow on some people and Im sure some will hate it.
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Tee-dub
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08/16/2010 |
Mild
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None detected
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Mild
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| It's a lesser version of Early Morning Pipe. By lesser I mean less flavorful, and milder. Also, despite its name, I felt neither virtuous nor thrifty while smoking it.
Perhaps I judged this too harshly at first, and this could be due to the fact that the tobacco arrives wet. Not damp, wet. The tin encloses a clear plastic bag of tobacco rather than the customary paper lining, and perhaps this keeps the tobacco overmoist.
The tin note is delicious: it smells of damp, and of dark fruit, and that sort of musty Oriental-ness. I detect no Latakia in the tin note, but some dark strands are visible among the lighter melange of beiges and browns. Whether these dark strands are stoved Virginias or the Latakia which some detect I just don't know.
Damp and straight from the tin, the tobacco provided a singularly unrewarding experience. On some drying out, I found the rough edges smoothed out, and the flavor perked up a bit. Some drying out caused this to burn cooler, and revealed a mellow, musty smoke that, if unremarkable, is also agreeable.
Pleasantly unremarkable after drying. Straight from the tin, less pleasantly unremarkable.
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Susanna Hoffs
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07/27/2010 |
Mild to Medium
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Very Mild
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Medium
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Tolerable
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| Nice picture of a cathedral on the banal tin sticker, as opposed to the painted blue lid of old. Old fashioned words like 'Presbyterian' and the all inclusive puffers favourite adjective 'mixture'. A marketing man's dream!
All in all a very decent mild/medium, creamy English blend. Will join my other favourites such as Peterson's Old Dublin, MM 965, 'And so to bed' and Penzance!
Good luck getting the latter!!
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ewlewis
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07/19/2010 |
Mild
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None detected
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| This has become my go to blend for quite some time now. Many may complain of the weak nature that it holds, which is accurate, however, if you take your time this blend will spill its enjoyment right onto your palette.
If you are looking for a big hitting Latakia baccy, then you should look elsewhere. This is much more of an all day smoker. The type that you can smoke as you work and you will be pleased, but if you slow down you enjoy it even more.
Out of the tin the Latakia and Orientals do hit you, but in a good way. The pack is wonderful and the lighting can be tough at times. I do not allow it to dry, but others may prefer to. Overall, if you have not tried this blend you must do so immediately.
8.16.2011: Just wanted to add at this time that now my rotation of Presby is at 18 months of age. At this point I can say that the tobacco has improved. The VA's have matured and their sweetness compliments the Orientals quite nicely.
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ivycap
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07/14/2010 |
Mild
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None detected
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| This blend is mostly virginia/ burley with a fleating amount of latakia and touch of orientals. This can be nice at times. When smoked very slowly, it is very sweet and delectable. The flavor can be fleeting, however, and many a time a grew disapointed with it.
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James
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07/10/2010 |
Medium
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None detected
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Medium to Full
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Tolerable
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| [This is my first review so go easy on me.. lol] I am used to aromatic tobaccos, so this was my first venture out to the English blends. I saw the name and wanted to get it since I myself am Presbyterian (Christian).
I thought it was out of my price range, but after I logged on here and read some of these reviews I was sold.
So when I opened it for the first time, [I had never smelled this kind of tobacco before].. it instantly made my mouth water. It was a Gentle light and never went out. The taste really took a few puffs but then I was introduced to a full woodsey flavor that I have been reading about. This is my new favorite tobacco and will be smoked on special occasion (like every Sunday!)
I was predestinated to smoke this tobacco. (Reformed Presbyterians will get the joke)
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Traderbob
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07/07/2010 |
Mild
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Extremely Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| The Presbyterian Mixture that I purchased is blended in Germany for William P. Solomon of London. I found it a little unusual that it was wrapped in plastic inside the tin, but this did not seem to affect the taste or texture. Tobacco was moist and fresh upon opening – just the way I like it. Wish I knew what it said on the cover note – but I don’t read (or speak) German. The aroma upon opening the tin is slightly musty with smells of leather and hay. I cannot tell if Latakia is included or not – I just know that I like this tobacco! The cut of the tobacco is a long, thin, and stringy ribbon cut. I came across several stems in my tin. The blend packs well without any difficulties. The first light was quick and even. This tobacco burned sort of medium fast and left a fine gray ash. Burns cool and I did not experience any bite. I had to do the typical slight pack and relight after the first lighting. The room note is similar to other mild English blends and is tolerable to pleasant. The flavor of Presbyterian Mixture is nutty, dusty, and leather-like, a good balance between sweet and the sour. While not overly characteristic, this tobacco is a smooth and relaxing smoke that qualifies as an all day mild English smoke. I liked the mildness of this smoke as a break from other tobaccos that I smoke. I put this one on my “Morning Smoke” list with “Good Morning” and “Chelsea Morning”. I plan to keep this in my rotation!
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Sinister Topiary
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06/28/2010 |
Mild to Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Medium
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Tolerable
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| A quintessential, quality all-day medium High English in the same family as Squadron Leader, Margate, Artisan's Blend & Blackpoint. Like the others of its ilk it has its own nuances, but there's nothing extraordinary to make it stand out from a crowded field. Worth trying if you like the others as this one may be the one that perfectly tickles your tastebuds.
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Wrangler
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06/14/2010 |
Mild to Medium
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None detected
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Mild
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| As stated Presbyterian is very moist out of the tin and hard to keep lit. No surprise here as many tobacs are as such. The smoke was pleasant but not note worthy. This blend is one that I might say "hey, I haven't had that in a long time, think I'll order some" but that is the extent of it. It is, however, nice to smoke and especially when you think about the story behind the blend. Nice tobac but nothing to rave about.
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BowHunter
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06/03/2010 |
Mild to Medium
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None detected
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Medium
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Tolerable
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hawky454
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05/31/2010 |
Medium to Strong
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Mild
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Mild
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| What we have here is definitely nothing to write home about. I was very disappointed with this one, maybe I got a bad batch? Upon opening, the tobacco was way to moist for my liking and I had trouble keeping it lit, even when airing it out. The flavor is not bad but at the same time it's not anything special and I would recommend Balkan Sasieni or Proper English for your full bodied needs before you go putting faith into this blend. For the price, this one is a dud!
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Daggers62
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05/13/2010 |
Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Medium
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Strong
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| I saw this in a local shop and grabbed it out of curiosity. Upon opening the tin you get a very strong earthy/leathery smell it instantly reminded me of Squadron Leader but stronger.
It lights very easy and smokes fantastic. It has a very cool taste with hints of sweetness which is great for sitting back and relaxing.
The downside ... After lighting this my wife promply said.. 'What in gods name are you smoking? That stinks!' Some of my work colleagues gave the same reaction at break times.
This really is a nice smoke and I would recommend it but be warned about the room note.
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zulujerk
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05/02/2010 |
Medium
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None detected
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Full
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Tolerable
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| I first bought a tin of Presbyterian yesterday afternoon. A day later, it's more than half gone. I haven't been this excited about a tobacco since I first sampled 965, which I devoured just as quickly. I've heard blends described as creamy, 965 was the only experience I'd describe as such, until I managed to get a hold of Presbyterian.
I opened the tin in the shop, and was greeted with such a wonderful scent, one that I have difficulty describing, and have only come so close as to compare it to that of cured olives. The scent is infectious, and I've been quick to close the lid for fear that it might drift away for good.
The thin, stringy tobacco comes tucked away in a plastic bag, nested inside the tin. Presbyterian is very moist as a consequence, and my first experiments with packing and lighting proved disastrous. One early attempt came in a cob, which I must have fired with my lighter for a good minute without any sort of draw. Confused, I gave the cob a thorough look, and realized I had cracked the shank with the heat! I've taken to filling the chamber of a pipe just after finishing a smoke with another pipe, and returning in an hour or two to a perfect match.
The taste is wonderful, sweet and rich, a strength that builds nicely throughout the smoke yet never overpowers. I crave rough smokes, and strangely not found myself wanting of more nicotine. My compulsive need to apply Perique has been derailed, for the short term. There is a bit of Latakia in this, yet it's subtle enough to confuse some into believing it's not there, very much like Early Morning Pipe, though stronger in body. In all the desire my cigarettes have found solitary company, oddly.
You find a tobacco you like, and it shortly disappears. For the first time, I've been thinking of building a cellar.
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jazzmoke
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04/22/2010 |
Medium
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Very Mild
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| Mine says : "Mellow blend of US-Virginia tobaccos and high-quality Macedonian grades-exclusive, aristocratic pipe mixture." I smelled Latakia when I opened the tin, though I left it to dry on the balcony with the window open over night and smoke it in the morning. It is indeed a mellow tobacco with a balanced taste, not too punchy and not to shabby. I recommend it, but not over Dunhill Mixtures.
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gj Michelob
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04/07/2010 |
Mild
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Mild
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Mild
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Pleasant
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| I have been inevitably intrigued by the description of this blend claiming ancient and noble roots. I finally received a tin a few days ago.
I was disappointed that the tin’s graphics are no longer printed on the metal but attached as a more banal adhesive label. It is the inexorable symptom of the tobacco’s market’s pains and uncertainties.
I have been smoking three bowls a day of Balkan Sansieni –which I love-. Hence, I expected a more defined and fragrant flavor form the Presbyterian Mixture. In fact, I am not pleased with the two bowls I tried. However, I recognize the compromising danger of laying the heavy burden of “expectation” on anything, and the distorted perception it may cause. I will leave the tin stored properly for a few more weeks and try it with a more earth-bound spirit. However, I can report that it is milder and lighter than Balkan Sansieni –a good comparative measure I would reckon given how ubiquitous it is-. I mean milder in strength, flavor, nicotine, room note and aftertaste, in a fashion which does not allow me to recommend it, particularly as I realize many will, as I did, fall for the intriguing presentation and blend "name", so handsomely suited for a pipe tobacco. Great marketing in itself, really... however, so far, it seems to me that is all there is to it.
I will report further, in due course.
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Michael
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03/06/2010 |
Medium
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Very Mild
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Presby is tasty, nicely balanced, and fairly complex, and while it's light in Latakia, it's full of flavor, with the core Oriental the key ingredient and supported nicely by the aged Virginias. This is in the same ballpark as SG's Skiff and EMP, although a bit creamier than the latter.
The tin reads "Air Tight" on the side, and when you pop it open, you'll see the tobacco wrapped in a clear plastic baggy of sorts -- an unusual presentation, but very effective, because this is the moistest stuff I have yet to receive. And that's fine by me.
Highly recommended and worthy of its higher price.
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eamonclever
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03/01/2010 |
Medium
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Medium to Full
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Tolerable
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| i love to smoke english mixtures! Sometimes I am in a mood to have a long and gentle smoke in a xl bowl, while I work or when I just sit on my porch. Old Dublin is my standard on this occasion but PM comes in very frequently now because the nicotine in this tobacco is not as heavy as in OD or 965. There is nothing to say about quality standards, always top notch. Latakia is there but this is more or less a good va tobacco with a good kick of latakia in it, that makes the working man happy. This said, I recommend it to everybody who likes to taste an english mixture for the first time.
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Jevanf
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02/16/2010 |
Medium
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Medium
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Tolerable
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| It's unfortunate that this is billed as a blend for "beginners with English tobaccos", as it sort of implies only beginners can enjoy it. I find this to be a very tasty blend that I have been returning to as my first choice since opening, competing with a wide range highly regarded tobaccos on the shelf.
This blend contains a hefty amount of oriental tobacco, and I find it similar in some ways to the Pease blends Cairo and Chelsea Morning, which I like for their oriental content. There is a fullness in Presbyterian that is lacking from Cairo, and the Latakia in CM shifts the taste to something different, something more artificial like incense. I like all three blends, but it's remarkable that Presbyterian (in my opinion) beats them at their own games. Both Cairo and CM are very highly rated on this board, so very low marks appearing for Presbyterian I think should be perhaps ignored if you like Cairo and CM.
I find myself wanting to ask Greg Pease what he thinks of Presbyterian, as it seems he's aiming in this direction with a number of his blends.
People say this is too moist as received. I have smoked it as received and dried, and I actually had slightly easier time packing and keeping it lit in the moist condition.
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Virginia lover
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02/11/2010 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Interesting mixture that I would consider an Oriental if it wasn't for the small amount of Latakia being present. Nice flavor, not pretentious by any means. Good for a change of pace or an all day tobacco.
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meanmrmustard
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02/08/2010 |
Mild to Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Tolerable
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| I recently picked up a tin at a little over $16.00 for 50 grams. Not worth the price. Nothing special about it to make me fall in love with it. It's a bland English, maybe that's what appeals to some. We all have different tastes, and since tobacco is a very objective thing I can't say the other reviews are wrong. I guess it's in the Hall of Fame because it's been around for a very long time with some history. For the price I can pick up 10oz of Northwoods and enjoy myself for a long time.
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