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Flying Dutchman
| Brand: |
Theodorus Niemeyer |
| Tin Description: |
Rich and Aromatic, an old favorite. |
| Country of Origin: |
NL |
| Curing Group: |
Air Cured |
| Contents: |
Burley
Cavendish
Virginia
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| Flavoring: |
Other / Misc
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| Cut: |
Ribbon |
| Packaging: |
50g Tin |
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Mild
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Mild
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Mild
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| Room Note: |
Pleasant
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| Recommendation: |
Somewhat Recommended
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Showing reviews 21 through 39 of 39 reviews of this tobacco
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Pipepundit
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11/03/2006 |
Mild
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Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant
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| Flying Dutchman has been treated somewhat harshly. After a gap of nearly twenty years I smoked a tinful recently, with hardly any memory of its taste. It is a mildly flavoured aromatic of middling quality. Since I got my tin as a gift I am unable to comment on the price/quality ratio. In extremis - say when the choice is limited to Borkum Riff or Captain Black - I would certainly buy Flying Dutchman, even though there are no Wagnerian notes present, nor a redeeming Senta.
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scotty815
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10/19/2006 |
Mild
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Very Mild
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Extremely Mild (Flat)
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Tolerable
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| pencil shavings
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Wriggles
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06/18/2006 |
Mild
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Very Mild
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| I used to smoke Flying Dutchman regularly 30 years ago, when you could buy the 3 oz tin for 85 cents. At that time, it was a great, great tobacco. Recently, I bought several pouches when I visited a distant city. I was overjoyed.
On opening the package, the tobacco packed like straw. Lighting up, this stuff bit like a bulldog, and the taste was very harsh. Really awful. I'll never buy this tobacco again. No wonder it's not sold in drugstores anymore.
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BEN
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03/27/2006 |
Mild
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Mild
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Mild
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Tolerable
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| You want to try Flying Dutchman but cannot find it in your local shops? Then find the nearest farm and go into their barn and pack some fresh straw into your pipe..light up experience what may actually taste BETTER and burn your mouth LESS than Flying Dutchman!! A truly horrible tobacco.....my Flying Dutchman flew right into the trashcan!!
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Philo Beddoe
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03/13/2006 |
Very Mild
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Extremely Mild
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Extremely Mild (Flat)
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Simply unpleasant to smoke. No flavor to speak of, massive tongue bite and this turned sour almost immediately. Don't bother.
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07/14/2005 |
Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Mild
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Pleasant
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| This blend, by Theodorus Neimeyer, is quite typical of the Dutch style of tobacco blending. It is a fine ribbon cut tobacco and so it lights and burns easily, but can bite the tongue quite a bit if burned too hot. Smoke it slowly and the aromatic notes come through in a pleasant and understated way. Like many Dutch blends it relies to a large extent on Golden Cavendish and has this tobaccos freshness, but the blend is complex and there is much more than just Cavendish here. The room note is sutble,pleasing and soft certainly "wife friendly". Overall a fairly decent smoke without aspiring to greatness - one to enjoy ocassionally, but not one that could be included in my all time favourite list
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Briarabbit
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06/23/2005 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant
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| Hotter than a two doolar pistol! This crappy weed will burn your tounge so bad that you'll have to eat cream pudding from a straw. Be warned, it's a furnace! The cut is cigarette shag,and sucks. My dog said he wouldn't smoke this stuff.
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I can't believe Frjacob wrote a Novel about this crap. I have to agree with another here about the twelve tobaccos composing this blend. Like hell there are 12 tobaccos making this up, Six pinches of Burley,and six pinches of Virginia Cavendish sweetened with pure white sugar,yea,maybe.
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DUPE.1512
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06/17/2005 |
Mild to Medium
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Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant
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| Great room note, however this will turn your tounge into chared cinders. If you want to experience a good aroma will melting your tounge this is the blend!
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SFC/E7
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09/18/2004 |
Mild
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Very Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant
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| As I reminiscence back to the early 60?s this was my tobacco of choice, this tobacco went with me during my military days and still today I enjoy a bowl of Flying Dutchman. Smoke it slow, keep your pipe cool and enjoy it longer.
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FrJacob
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05/19/2004 |
Extremely Mild
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Mild
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Medium
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Very Pleasant
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| Flying Dutchman is a wonderful tobacco unlike any other. I have a pleasure in smoking it unmatched by my enjoyment of any other tobacco ? and (on separate occasions), I do also love the heavier latakia blends, each for themselves as well as other types of blend ? but for me Flying Dutchman is special. ?In the day? you?d walk into a drugstore (or in my case into the Navy Exchange), and FD was the best tobacco in the place ? generally, it was the only tinned tobacco there. You?d open the tin and in the eye of the white accordion paper was a clear piece of cellophane which, when you pulled it out, stuck to the moist and VERY firmly packed tobacco underneath. No other tinned tobacco I've ever smoked has been as firmly packed at it was in a tin. You?d have to pluck the finely cut cavendish out with your fingers, bit by bit, and then fill you pipe in stringy pinches. Filling a pipe with FD in it?s proper condition was not like loading any other tobacco I?ve smoked. The object was (in this not unlike other tobaccos, but different in the details because of it?s moist and finely stringy nature), unlike the same process with other tobaccos.
After a 20 year haitus I returned to the pipe. I?d smoked Flying Dutchman ,almost exclusively, twenty years before. One of the reasons I stopped smoking was due to my inability to get Flying Dutchman in a tin. FD in a pouch was generally dry (maybe not so across the water?), and was unsmokable. I never bought the cans in those days for the same reason. Adding a slice of apple or a humidifying tab did not FULLY restore the tobacco to it?s original condition. I don?t know when the 50g tin was finally dropped, so I can?t say it started that far back ? probably they gradually phased it out with the tin and pouch both available for a time;, but definitely, the pouch-packed tobacco now received is too dry to smoke comfortably (for me).
Almost any aromatic tobacco, after all is generally smoked more moist than non-aromatic tobaccos, but Flying Dutchman must be smoked more moist than most aromatic tobaccos and the pouch does not keep the tobacco at the proper smoking moisture. It can be moisturized and smoked, of course (I now put two moisturizing coins in the pouch as soon as I open it, and I replace them three or four times, trying the tobacco out each time until it?s right ? once it starts to stick to your fingers, it?s about right).
Now when you tamp Flying Dutchman (and you probably will have to tamp, and quite possibly relight it to make it to the bottom of the bowl), just very gently lower the tamp to the bottom of the fluffy ash ? no further; because you don?t want to pack the bottom tobacco at all beyond the way you?ve (hopefully) properly packed it in the first place. The object is not to end up with a damp and unburnable mass at the bottom. With practice this can be avoided, but often you may (as I do), have to empty your pipe furtively so as not to embrass yourself before non-aromatic (or perhaps more specifically, non Flying Dutchman) smokers who do not have this problem, at least not to this degree. So, when your ashtray fills wil dottles of Duchman, know that you?re not alone. It comes with the territory.
Peter Stokeby?s ?Natural? is similar to Flying Dutchman in some respects, not with regard to the peculiarities just mentioned, but with regard to it's general background flavor; but Duchman has a subtlety of its own that is evidently missed by many. Good as it is in its own right, PS?s Natural is missing the distinctive flavor I?ve always enjoyed in Flying Dutchman. But some of that flavor is gone due to packaging ? that, it seems to me is simply an objective fact. It was always lost by drying out and it still is. For that reason, I call on the brotherhood of the briar to email Theodorus Niemeyer at consumentenservice@niemeyer.nl and make the case for bringing back the tin, once and for all! Packed as it was of old it, richly deserved four stars ? in my opinion, this is simply due to the loss of oils that come of the drying-out process. Even taking all this into account, I?d like to give a solid three stars to Flying Dutchman even as it is now.
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pop-pop's pipe
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02/22/2004 |
Mild to Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Mild
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Pleasant
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| A blend of twelve tobaccos? I can't taste it. Tastes like burley, oriental, and very little Virginia to me. It smokes cool and burns nice. The aroma is pleasant and it satisfies the nicotine crave. It just lacks flavor and richness.
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Pounder 5000
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11/18/2003 |
Mild to Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Medium to Full
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| This is a classic old aromatic that is easy to appreciate. The smoking characteristics are great and the smoke nice and light. There is a complexity here if you want to look hard enough, one you don't see in many drugstore blends. There are hints of some oriental leaf- for a second I even thought I might have detected the ghost of some latakia?!! The casing is minimal and seems very natural and tasty. Watch the first half of the bowl as it can sting you pretty good. The second half calms down however, leaving you with a great smoking experience. Definitely the top of the pile where drugstore pouches are concerned.
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ilDominante
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06/25/2003 |
Medium
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Medium
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Medium to Full
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Now, this one is one of my all time favourites. I smoked this the first time when I was 9 years old (no, I am not kidding). Since then it became my usual pipe tobacco, which my dad and I enjoyed often in front of the fireplace or near the beach. I remember that until the early 90s it was sold in a round tin, like most quality tobaccos. Then they started putting it in pouches and the price started growing. Notice I am talking about European markets here. Now, 10 years ago the tobacco was moist, cut in thin ribbons and very aromatic. The room note was very pleasant and was appreciated by many non smokers when they entered my study back in Europe.
When I moved to the US I had the luck of finding it again, 4 years ago. It was sold in a pouch. When I opened it the smell was the same, but not at all inhebriating, like I remembered it being. When I pulled it out and started loading my pipe I was really surprised. This tobacco smelled the same, looked the same, but felt completely different. The moisture was (and is) gone, thus instead of the pleasant and slow burning bowl I expected, I got my tongue badly burned. I tried buying it again in other shops, thinking it was just a bad batch, but so far all the pouches I found contained this very dry version of Flying Dutchman. This tobacco certainly contains oriental mixtures you can smell it as soon as you light up. In Italy and France it is one of the most prized tobaccos sold in specialty shops.
But the oriental notes are very difficult to perceive if the tobacco is smoked faster than a little draw per minute (in the dry version). Plus the bowl lasts very little time. I don't know why this tobacco evolved to this new dry version, but when I visit Europe again I'll make sure to try the batches sold there and see if it is as dry as the one sold here in the US. Meanwhile I'll add the moisture artificially (half of an apple in a ziploc bag with the tobacco, or just a spray of filtered water).
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augiegus
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10/29/2002 |
Mild to Medium
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Mild
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Extremely Mild (Flat)
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| I went to a local store here in the rural midwest which sprang up after the cigar boom, and hoped to get a tinned tobacco. No luck the guy who knew very little said he did not know why they quit carrying them... after he found out from me thatthey used to and quite a few companies sell tobacco just in the tin. Where do they find these guys? The only thing that seemed close to a good quality of tobacco was Flying Dutchman. Once again the already posted reviews do it justice. I did not notice any flavor but was able to not burn my tongue. I feel it is a good quality of tobacco but it was rather bland. I am sure that a dose of nicotine is entering my system and this will hold me over till my new order arrives via snail mail. On the bright side that order contains GL Pease Cairo which after reading the reviews and trying this blend has me sitting on the edge of my seat. This blend does stoke the fires of anticipation like no other. Yep that bland.
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Pipestud
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04/22/2002 |
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Extremely Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Owwwwwchhhh! This is one hot tamale!
I opened the pouch to discover a finely cut, very dry tobacco. It packed easily and lit easily and from the very first puff it, well, it burned like hell!
I have no idea how anyone can smoke this without a palate guard, a tongue sheath and a bit of a twisted nature.
If self inflicted burns turn you on, go fly with the Dutchman, otherwise, steer clear!
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NEWMAN
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04/07/2002 |
Mild to Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Mild
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Although I'm used to flake tobaccos, this blend seemed extremely dry from the tin and this combined with the fine, ribbon cut resulted in a very hot smoke. Even when smoked slowly, it burned much to fast for my taste and had a tendency to bite. Although no heavy casing was present and aromatic smokers might enjoy this one, I'll remain a flakeman.
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Eulenburg
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03/30/2002 |
Mild to Medium
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Mild
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Mild
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Pleasant
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| You look up DUTCH CAVENDISH in Noah Webster's Smokers' Dictionary, and you'll see they've got a picture of this next to the entry. It is a typically mild, clean-palate aromatic, that can actually be quite flavorful, unless "flavour" to you means "Latakia". As is often the case with the better steamed Cavendish, there is a pleasant light spiciness; the Dutch actually add more at the lower end of the spectrum than the "warm air" Danes, and a certain intensity develops if you let your pipe smolder quietly.
The cut is as narrow as shag, but is actually a long, thinly sliced ribbon; it did not overheat for me.
If you cared to read my SAIL reviews, you know that I kind of like this type of Dutch bonne-bouche. I like SAIL better, but this old favourite will be anjoyed by anyone who can appreciate a quality aromatic. Surely the legions who have smarmed over HADDO's DELIGHT?like yours truly?would not decline to be counted in that number?
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Black Seamus
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02/22/2002 |
Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Mild
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Very Pleasant
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| Pouch Aroma: The pouch emits a delicate aroma of reminiscent of butterscotch and pumpkin pie spice. No real tobacco aroma comes through.
Appearance: Very finely cut ribbons ranging in color from gold to dark brown. Despite it being an aromatic, the tobacco is not at all wet.
Initial flavor: There is a sharpness here, along with a sweet and mellow flavor that is again reminiscent of butterscotch. Not a lot of tobacco flavor comes through.
Mid bowl: Despite having ?12 different tobaccos,? there?s not much complexity in this smoke. The bowl burns evenly and the flavor continues to have the mellow sweetness evident in the first 1/3 of the bowl.
Finish: The tobacco burns very nicely to the bottom of the bowl, without any goop or unburned tobacco. The flavor has stayed steady and unexciting.
Summary: Aromatic smokers might really enjoy this, or at least find it a nice change from more heavily-cased blends. It burns cleanly and the flavor is nice enough. It?s just not my cup of tea.
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Noorrmm
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01/31/2002 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium
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Mild
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Pleasant
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| Typical dutch shag cut, mostly light to medium in color. Aroma is light Va and Burley, with apple pie topping. Lights easily, can bite if puffed aggresively (which you may well do to ge any tobacco flavor). Mostly just a bland tobacco with apple aroma. Your LSW might love the room note.
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