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Condor Ready Rubbed (Green)
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Condor |
| Blender: |
Gallaher Limited |
| Tin Description: |
Full bodied with cool, slow burning positive smoking characteristics. |
| Country of Origin: |
UK |
| Curing Group: |
Air Cured |
| Contents: |
Virginia
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Alcohol / Liquor
Other / Misc
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| Cut: |
Broken Flake |
| Packaging: |
50g Pouch |
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Strong
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Medium to Strong
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Full
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Tolerable
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Recommended
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Holy Smoke
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06/12/2007 |
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| Ah Condor: The daddy of the floral flakes!
Some see this glorious tobacco as the marmite of the pipe world, complaining about Condor's soapy nature. This does slowly fade away, leaving it to shine out above all the other 'supermarket' blends. Sadly this does require patience -and at least a second pouch- and some do give up before this: Out of the fear of tainting their pipes and recalling memories of their loose-tongued youth.
Full-bodied and floral, making it a perfect bedtime pipe. Though if you are inclined toward the milder smokes, you'll probably be screaming yourself to sleep with this one.
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drewfasa
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04/01/2007 |
Strong
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Strong
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Very Full
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Tolerable
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| I'm a novice smoker and bought this tobac at the supermarket on a Sunday when the pipe shop was closed. The flavour was floral - I would say mostly violets, and yes, I have tasted violets (in hot chocolate at a shop in the Lake District). The smell really reminds me of my grandparents for some reason, maybe the combination of grandpa's cigarettes and grandma's violet soaps.
Anyways, the flavour I found to be full and pleasant. I found it could be puffed quite hard without becoming bitter or harsh.
I enjoyed the higher nicotine content and stopped about 1/2 or 3/4 of the way down because I'd had enough, but I prefer that type of satisfaction to the feeling you get with a bland tobacco where you smoke it all the way down waiting for something to happen and it never does. In my opinion the greatest shortcoming a tobacco can have is if it is too bland.
Condor is packed with an interesting flavour and strong nicotine, I find myself already looking forward to my next bowl.
note: it will leave an indelible flavour on your pipe.
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Brahms
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03/31/2007 |
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Strong
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| When I was young, I cursed my mother, and my father washed out my mouth with soap. It only took once to learn my lesson. Never again.
Now, as an adult, I smoked Condor, and my mouth was filled with an even more foul taste of soap. It only took once to learn my lesson. Never again.
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tockus
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01/04/2007 |
Strong
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Strong
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| I have been an on-off pipe smoker for about 35 years, but have never stuck to one brand. I have only recently tried Condor Original, even though it is a popular brand in the U.K. My first impression was in line with other reviewersin that it tasted 'soapy' However, the more pipefuls you light, this soapiness is less in evidence, and now I dont notice it. Having read that this tobacco 'taints' the bowl of any pipe, I have restricted it to three of my pipes! It is a heavy smoke, not to be experimented with by a novice, but is slow burning and quite pleasant for the more experienced.
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oldmanpipe
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12/05/2006 |
Very Strong
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Very Strong
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| As many a reviewer has noted, this oldtime British blend is no longer available in our litigious United States. Many fine old English tobaccos are memories to us Yanks now. The judgment exposure is not offset by the sales.
If a young smoker should perchance get his hands on a package of Condor, he is in for a room-spinning awakening. Should a veteran be so fortunate...tis very Heaven. There is nothing...and I mean NOTHING...quite like this. You will either love it or hate it. Just don't make up your mind after the first bowlful; this blend will grow on you. There are times that Condor satisfies when nothing else will.
Unfortunately, though, it not only grows on the pipesmoker...but also on his pipe; the traces of this tobacco will be there forever. And don't expect complements on the room aroma. Everyone in contact will ask, "what the **** are you smoking????" Proof positive that Latakia is not alone in provoking such responses.
Unique. Unforgetable. Wonderful.
Four out of four stars.
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Pipesmoking101
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05/13/2006 |
Very Strong
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Strong
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Tolerable
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| On reading previous reviews, I purchased a corncob pipe for this in case I didn't like it, as I was aware of the fact that the flavour of this tobacco can permanently stain a pipe. I must say that I was pleasantly surprised by this tobacco. Whilst being aware of the strength from the first light, I didn't at any point find it overpowering. The room note is surprisingly mild also, for such a full-bodied smoke. I consider myself lucky to be here in the UK where we can get easy access to this tobacco, & I shall definitely be buying it again (along with a quality pipe which will be my dedicated Condor vessel!). Certainly not the best tobacco in the world, but a lot better that many & absolutely the superior supermarket brand by a country mile. Recommended - although do be aware that if you prefer a mild smoke, this is very unlikely to be your cup of tea. All those who enjoy a strong smoke though, would ignore this flake at their peril. I smoke most flakes by rolling into a plug, although I find that this smokes equally well either folded or rubbed. It also rubs out fairly easily. May require a few relights, & I can see why some has criticised it as high-maintenance, but the smoke is worth it, & it's easy to get the hang of maintaining the light after a few bowls.
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drew2907
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02/28/2006 |
Medium to Strong
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| condor should change it`s name to soap, thats all i could taste maybee it becuse im quite new to the pipe, but i wont be buying it again and i still have not got the taste out of my pipe. yuk!!!
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sasha
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12/28/2005 |
Strong
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Medium to Strong
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Recommended because it's something one has to try sooner or later, a great classic. I suggest to dry the flakes a bit, because they're very moist into the pouch, then you can crumble them or smoke it the traditional way, no great difference in taste. The flavour is something you'll remember for a long time (and your pipe will do as well, so I suggest not to smoke it into your favourite high grade freehand, at least for the first time). Despite its format and strong flavouring, it smokes remarkably cool.
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kevin
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12/06/2005 |
Medium to Strong
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Medium to Strong
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Pleasant
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| Rather like a muskier, heavier version of St Bruno. This is quite a moist tobacoo, and I find that 2 or 3 re-lights are required to keep it going. It produces a heavy, cool, fruity smoke with a hint of the pepperiness found in St Bruno. I have found this a bit too much on its own - but have read another posting that suggests blending Condor with 50% St Bruno - I have tried this and the result is an easy to light, cool, flavoursome smoking experience. Another poster had suggested that St Bruno blended with Gold Block worked well and I suspect that a 50/50 mix of St Bruno & Condor mixed with some GB would result in an excellent smoke. I'l give it a try at some point!
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Ducksbreath
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10/20/2005 |
Extremely Strong
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Very Strong
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Very Pleasant
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| ***Update. After 125g of this over two months, I've changed my recommendation. It's clear that Condor is in a class by itself, the king of the full strength soap flakes. I've learned to smoke this slowly in a small bowl, not to let it dry out too much to preserve the added flavorings (which is the point with Condor, it is a full aromatic), and pack it very loosely, almost fully rubbed out. I've never had a pipe cleaner come out black, or any tarrier than any other rich blend, this way. ***
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DrDNA
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09/05/2005 |
Very Strong
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| Notes: My review is based on an older tin, perhaps 20-30 years old, as well as old and new pouched versions, so please take this into consideration when reading. These days, it is only available from the UK, and then only in the pouch form. Due to the residual scent remaining in the pipe, it may be best to dedicate a pipe to this mixture.
Appearance: A deep brown to nearly black oily, supple long-cut sliced tobacco, cut from a dense cake. It has virtually no tendency to flake apart and is easily folded to fit in the pipe, as is my preference. It gives the appearance of being strong, and I immediately got a picture in my head of some old salts sitting around laughing as a young novitiate pipe smoker earns his stripes through dry heaves after being induced to smoke a bowl of this.
Aroma: A very soapy, oily slightly bitter aroma. I detect English tea, Bergamot, Patchouli, and myrrh. The blends of the Lakeland district were known for this distinctively British ?floral? aromatic style, which often utilized Tonquin seed pods (from their colony of British Guyana) and the rind of limes as casing agents. This blend is fairly representative of this style. It has a slightly astringent quality when it hits the nostrils, which is reminiscent of the slightly alkaline odor of Ivory soap ? pleasant and pungent if you like that sort of thing. The density and uniformity of the aroma make it seem slightly daunting.
Taste: It lit easily with a single match and I was immediately presented with a classic soapy British Lakeland flavor. The blend was bitter on the lips quite soon, a sign of its high nicotine content. It is certainly not sweet, as many aged Virginia blends have a tendency to be, but it does not display a prominent Latakia flavor either. Instead, it is simply slightly bitter and perfumed, with a strong smoky Oriental-type flavor dominating. The flavors are very strong indeed: tarry, jammy, concentrated! Condor has an honest, pure tobacco flavor, contemplative and smoky, with a wonderfully integrated floral bouquet.
It struck me as exceptionally smooth and easy to smoke, and while not a simple blend, then a harmonious amalgam of its various components well wedded into an intense whole. In all I found this to be a very relaxing smoke. I personally prefer very strong, high-nicotine blends (e.g. Royal yacht et al), so this must be considered. Despite this, toward the end of the second bowl, my nose was running a bit and I felt a bit queasy for a moment when I got up. Now, I attribute this to the fact that my first two bowls of the day had been Condor (at around 8 a.m.), and perhaps it might be easier later in the day and not on an empty stomach.
After several bowlfuls, the flavors are consistent, with the tobacco burning down to a fine ash. It does give a bit of pipe gurgle, and the pipe cleaners always come out jet black with tarry resins, so I don?t recommend inhaling this one!
Comparisons: Nothing compares to Condor; the taste is distinctive, although it is clearly a Lakeland scented flake. It falls in line with Gawith's scented flakes, such as Nos. 1-7 and 1792, but the flavor is different, perhaps closest to Black Aromatic. Having compared this with the modern pouch version, I can say this much: when one smokes the modern version of this old favorite, one is reminded of the older version as a gentle memory softened with age. The new blend looks much the same but the tobacco is very lightly flavored and the nicotine strength is markedly diminished. The new pouch version is a faint and indistinct echo of the older Condor, like the barely discernable shadow of a great monument fading into the dusk at twilight.
Bottom Line: If you are looking for a very strong, high-nicotine blend with a pronounced soapy flavor, you may like this one.
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Air Commodore
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03/10/2005 |
Medium to Strong
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| When I tried this in my youth 24 years ago, it was so strong only old men with black nicotine stained fingers used to smoke it! It used to knock your head off and left you gasping if inhaled. I tried it again recently and was supprised at its wonderfull taste and aroma. I suspect it has a high nicotine content since after 50 grms it leaves you gagging for more!
People say it has the sopey english quality, and certainly when sniffed has notes of soap in there. But on the whole I like it.
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Steerpike
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12/20/2004 |
Extremely Strong
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Medium to Strong
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Overwhelming
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| Pheeeew... This is some rank weed! OK, I like St Bruno a lot when I'm in the mood, its strong but very enjoyable. But this is just taking it too far! Its like St bruno, but a little stronger and 10 times tarrier. When I first got it, I thought (Why, Ive no idea) that I should sample it in a realy big pipe, while taking a stroll in the park. This prooved to be a mistake, as I realised when my head started to spin halfway through the bowl. I sat down on a park bench, feeling like aqualung, and felt a pang of guilt when a bird fell lifeles from its perch in the tree above me... Alright, I exagerate a little perhaps. It seems to have been made in the same style as St Bruno, but far fouler. It makes a horrible, heavy, muggy smell, it tastes foul, like the flavours in Bruno but foul and too thick, and unlike the Bruno, it burns hot, and will all too easily bite. Pipecleaners come out black. I have a feeling that this stuff may not be so healthy.
A gentlemen I have bought old pipes from on the Preston Market, once advised me that his all day smoke of 20 years was a 50/50 mix of St Bruno and Condor. This I dutifully tried, and indeed despite my fears it was alright. It's not so heavy as neat Condor, more like beefed up St Bruno, and it does not burn hot or bite. If Im spending a weekend in the woods in the colder seasons (as I will this December), this is what Ill smoke. Rich, hearty, a little course, excellent tramping tobacco. As for neat Condor, Ill leave that to those who can tolerate it.
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Having been overwhelmed by this weed, I later came to enjoy it greatly. Such is the way of things, I think the same has happened with all the lakeland flakes. I tried several and was initially put off by them, three years of living oop noorth and I came to understand them, and later to love them. I may also have manned up somewhat through exposure to Chips and Gravy and the horrors of Lancashire weather...
So, what is Condor? Condor is a VERY strong, VERY manly pipe tobacco. It is a dark, strong, cooked virginia flake with a traditional scent added to it. Soap and perfume indeed, and manly because of it.
This is a tobacco to smoke after doing an oil change on your Royal Enfield Bullet. Or after ploughing a field or laying a hedge. Or in a lock in in a pub after you've come back from a successful nocturnal expedition poaching with a long net with your fellows.
This is not a tobacco to smoke while posting self concious tobacco reviews on the internet! Nor is it to be smoked while at work in an office. You should not smoke this in a fancy wine bar, or while walking around John Lewis with your beloved.
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sethus
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10/22/2004 |
Strong
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Medium to Strong
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| God smokes a pipe...and in it he smokes condor and st bruno, condor is given from god!!!!!!!!!!
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Daniel Morlan
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08/06/2004 |
Strong
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Very Pleasant
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| This is actually a very fine pipe tobacco. You would never dream the room note would be as good as it is by smelling the pouch. The actual pouch aroma was STUNNINGLY similar (believe it or not) to the virginias McClelland uses.
It's meant to be smoked slowly and patiently, and like all pipe tobaccos, I seem to HAVE to try and see if it'll bite me a little. It did (but not too bad). It's a fixation I have, I guess... I like to push the envelope. I did, in fact, as this pipe tobacco is a bit on the strong side. I smoked it to the very bottom of the bowl, 'til all that was left was a fine ash. It gets a little stout at the end, so if you're a little on the mild-liking, just smoke this wonderful stuff 'til it suits you.
I enjoyed this pipe tobacco from start to finish. I'll be buying some more in the not-too-distant future!
Let's see, I've done all but talk directly about the tobacco...
I used a match to char, another to light, and another to re-light. After that, only the tamper was needed. It's sweet, slightly spicy, and has a very "cologne-esque" taste to it. You WILL taste the casing unless your taste buds are kaput. It is a very full tobacco, so:
1.) Make sure you've eaten something... 2.) Make sure you're not going to be eating a mild dessert (like, say your wife's sumptuous banana pudding) because your tastes will be a bit mitigated for an hour or so. I am, however, enjoying some oregon chai, and I love the way it tastes, especially now.
I do all my reviews RIGHT AFTER I smoke 'em, so... There you go!
Condor is a real winner. Thanks Vagabond!
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Danno
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06/14/2004 |
Medium
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Strong
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Full
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Pleasant
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| I had the chance to re-visit this lovely tobacco recently when a friend from 'cross the pond sent a few pouches my way. There is really no smell like the one you encounter upon opening the packet...floral, mysterious, beckoning. I can see that to some it could have the redolence of strong soap, mais, pour mois, it is heavenly. Flakes are very dark, somewhat sticky and pliant to the touch. As with any scented flake, one must have a pipe for it, not only as it will haunt the briar relentlessly, but all the more to enhance the ritual of smoking this tabak in a constant vessel. I do not find it overly strong, nor complex, but the flavor is most unusual and it burns very well in a large Stanwell. Smokes cool, with few gurgles, the perfect porch tobacco on those windy days...This should be experienced at least once by all.
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Wademan
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05/08/2004 |
Very Strong
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Very Full
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Tolerable
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| I have an internet friend, A widow lady, that lives in England. I was resently showing her my new Calabash pipe, over instant messenger on my web cam. She asked to send me a packet of her late husbands favorite tobacco. It turned out to be Condor original in a 50g pouch packet. A little reserch on my part turned up that this tobacco is no longer exported from the U.K. to North America. I waited in anxious antisapation for the Condor to arrive and having been forewarned that it was a blend that would leave a taste mark on your pipe, I purchased a corn cop pipe for this taste test. Well its a good thing I did because when the condor arrived I instantly recognized the aroma in the pouch as being highly perfumed, somewhat like Mixture 79, but much stronger. I filled the cob and lit the pipe and was at once nearly overwhelmed by the pungent perfumey flowery aroma. I nearly put the bowl out, but I braved a few more puffs. As the bowl settled in the perfume taste became less and less until finally at about the second 3rd of the bowl it became a very nice, strong, satisfying smoke. I am used to high nicotien content in my tobaccos, but this blend gave me the spins and I had to relax and slow down. The finish was very nice right to the end ashes and other than that first 1/3 of the bowl being overly perfumed this was a very good smoke. A side note: In huge letters across the entire pouch were the words "TOBACCO KILLS", I guess we Americans dont hold a monopoly on tobacco Natzi's. It looks like England has their fair share of them too..........Wademan
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Bluebottle
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11/13/2003 |
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Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Tolerable
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| A heavy aroma greats the breaker of the seal on the packet of ready-rubbed I bought at my local convenience store. (it was 6:30pm and my tobacconist understandably had shut!)
The tobacco was in little brittle strips, and was very dry compared to my usual diet of light Virginia/Cavendish or aromatic blends. It was very easy to pack, but in order to keep this dry bushfire under control VERY slow smoking was necessary - so every once in a while I'd leave it too long and need to relight. Maybe it's just me smoking it wrong but it seemed very high maintenance to me.
High nicotine tobacco puts me right off, and here is no exception. There is a slight VA nuttiness breaking through the smoke, and this is in itself very tasty - hence the Mild/Med taste value. It is however intermittent - tailing off as the nicotine builds up toward the last quarter or so of the bowl.
A tolerable room note and very soft ash residue are the hallmarks of a well processed and refined mass production tobacco - But not of a great one!
Better mass-market VA can be found IMHO, see B&H Mellow Virginia.
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Paddy
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05/09/2003 |
Very Strong
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| Condor is another tobacco that I have been smoking regularly for over twenty years. I smoke less of it than I once did now that it has become difficult to obtain. It is a very dark tobacco, and appears to be fully rubbed out from very thin flakes into short narrows strands and bits. The pouch aroma reminds me of fermented corn silage, sweet, strong and somewhat resiny. My guess is that it has been topped with an extract made from fermented sugar, corn or sorghum cane and probably a few other things I do not want to know about. It packs and lights easily in a little Peterson system, full bent #314, p-lip that I use only for Condor Original. As with Maltan, St. Bruno and other English scented flakes, the pipe can only be used for this specific tobacco. The aroma of the tobacco comes through from the first puff. The taste is sweet and tangy right in the middle of the tongue combined with the strong flavor of dark pressed English flake. This a more powerful smoke in every respect than is St. Bruno Flake. The nicotine content is extremely high and will get your ticker clicking. The taste effect is almost identical to heavily concentrated Perique, but is even stronger. The smoke is mild and carries no bite; it is all taste and nicotine. Other than the strange flavor, this is not a complex smoke. Each puff delivers the same piercing tang on the tongue and in the back of the throat. It burns to a powdery black/gray ash right down to the bottom of the bowl with very little tending. At times when I have had to relight it, swallowing has turned my stomach and given me the hiccups. While puffing on this tobacco during a sing-song in Kinsale, Ireland about a dozen years ago, I sat next to a gentleman who appeared to be in his mid to late seventies and who spent the evening rolling his own cigarettes from a pouch of Condor Original, so I concluded that this stuff will not necessarily kill you at an early age. I smoke it once or twice a week and enjoy the unique, exotic flavor. Paddy.
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Eulenburg
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01/25/2003 |
Strong
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Medium to Full
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Tolerable to Strong
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| Is this named after the Condor Legion? That would be appropriate, as English-made aromatics often do bring mass-murder to mind. Thick, fruity, syrupy, this blend, which, like many hard-to-get imports, had a positive vogue a few years back, might be pleasing to a fruit-sucking bat in some tropical setting, but not to this super-liberal, cold-loving, snow-frisking, my-only-homeland-is-the-Winter New Yorker. This smells like a swamp on fire.
If you must smoke Nivea creme, try ST BRUNO instead. IT tastes like tobacco, not bat droppings.
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