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Grousemoor
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Samuel Gawith |
| Tin Description: |
This 200 year old blend is comprised of hand-stripped flue-cured Zimbabwe leaf, steamed to a Golden color then stoved into a unique melange of flavors. The aroma is of "Lemon Grass". |
| Country of Origin: |
UK |
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Flue Cured |
| Contents: |
Virginia
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| Flavoring: |
Other / Misc
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| Cut: |
Ribbon |
| Packaging: |
50g Tin |
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Mild to Medium
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Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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Recommended
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pipelovingcalvinist
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03/07/2012 |
Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant
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| Indeed this is an odd blend. Not generally an aromatic smoker, I thought I would give this blend a try none-the-less. I was pleased that the casing wasn't heavy or syrupy, but it certainly was odd. A perfume/lemon sent with a taste that reminded me of an ill spent summer drinking Mike's Hard Lemonade. The tobacco burned well all the way to the bottom and overall it was a nice change of pace.
Though I probably won't buy this again for quite sometime, I am glad I had the chance to try this very different blend.
Soli Deo gloria!
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kanular
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03/06/2012 |
Mild
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Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| Hello. I'm sorry but this tobaco is really not subtile. First the tobbaco itself is not so good and the aroma is just like chewing a bad gum with strange chimical aroma. I'm quite disapointed by SG more i taste the tobaco they do. One aromatic in the same kind that is really successfull is the Black and Gold from Robert mc connell, with a really good virginia and a nice and subtile aroma. Sorry for my english for the native english speakers. Un excellent vomitif matinal ce grousemoor. Beark!
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Kilmarnock Piper
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02/09/2012 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Very Pleasant
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| I'm really liking this one. I bought it on a whim when I found some of the less popular Samuel Gawith blends on a pipe site for the old-school price of $6.95 a tin. I have to admit I've been on a Lakeland kick lately. I like unflavored, pure Virginias as well. Those who are turned off by the stronger scents found in certain SG and especially GH offerings should avoid this blend!
I am now "ghosting" a classic Yello-Bole from 1933-1936 that I went through a lot of trouble to clean up and have decided to dedicate to Lakelands exclusively. The topping, believe me, is rather strongly present, and reminds me most of that of SG Cannon Plug. Lemon Grass, my ass! Maybe it's in there, I don't know, but the toppings of Grousemoor and Cannon Plug both remind me of Patchouli incense. My dear brother (who is a RYO smoker but interested in my pipe hobby) gets figs from it, and I can sort of see it. Doubt there is any fig in there though.
I'm not good enough to distinguish the exact type of Virginia used beneath all that scent, but probably light African Virginia from Zimbabwe just like they said. Perhaps it is the same for the Cannon Plug I compared the topping with. All I know is that I'm smoking the hell out of it. Goes well with a nice hoppy...beer.
Burns well, smokes well, no fuss. I really should have bought more than two tins, and will be on the lookout for more. The first tin is going fast...
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Beer
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01/14/2012 |
Medium to Strong
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Mild to Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant
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| What a strange tobacco! While not as strongly flavored as some might lead you to think, and certainly not in a disgusting/intrusive way like some other classic Lakeland/English Virginia blends, it sure is quizzical!
It's a mixture of fine golden Virginias (rather moist in the tin), flavored with a blend of aromas which escape definition. It's NOT soapy, not exactly flowery, but rather sweet/citrusy. Lemon, bergamot (Earl Grey tea!), pineapple, a hint of roses, honey, licorice... and more. Hey, even a slight hint of what reminds me of fresh perspiration from the skin of a lovely scented beautiful girl! The flavoring, in the tin, is not subtle but neither it is overwhelming: it's very appealing, and beautifully integrated with the natural smell of Virginia. Certainly not as strongly flavored as Erinmore, St Bruno or some weird soapy/talcum flavored stuff I've had in the past from Gawith & Hoggarth and which luckily I have almost forgotten.
Does this translate to the smoking experience? Actually not very much. There IS a hint of freshness and of the same aroma, but rather in a subtle way. The smoke is not the sweetest or fruitiest I have ever had from a Virginia, actually it tastes rather dry and neautral. A bit bland, too. This blandness can lead you to overpuffing, making it even blander and less sweet, and making it seem stronger nicotine-wise than it actually is. Be careful, because the high moisture and stringy ribbon cut can lead to packing the bowl a bit too tight resulting in a bad draw.
This scenario does actually change a bit after a couple of weeks from opening the tin. While it doesn't get dry too easily, some airing removes part of the flavoring, and a buttery sweetness like brioches/croissants comes out both in the unlit tobacco aroma and in the smoking experience.
Do I like it? Well, there's nothing to really be excited about. It's not spectacular, it doesn't give me the deep satisfaction of (to stay in the same brand) Best Brown Flake, but it's not offensive. In spite of the flavoring, almost no bothersome ghosts left in the pipe and certainly no "yuck" reaction. A honest smoke, subtle and elegant, quite different from anything else. While not particularly fond of this style, I can see myself having a bowl of it once in a while just for a change of pace.
Give it a try... even just for curiosity. You may fall in love with it: I didn't, it's a bit bland in taste for me (especially from a fresh tin), but I understand where its peculiar charm may lie and will probably revisit it once in a while.
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starlight
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01/11/2012 |
Mild to Medium
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Strong
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Overwhelming
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Unnoticeable
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| If you found yourself mooching around in a Maiden Aunt's drawers, erm, dresser, the scents of this baccy would not be unfamiliar: I found them to be a mix of a) patchouli oil, b) bath salts (and not expensive ones either), and c) palma violets (children's candy from way back when). This 'mix' of scents proved overwhelming for this palate, though that is a subjective viewpoint entirely my own.
It is a nice looking brightly coloured baccy of obvious quality. It packs and burns easily, if slightly hot in the bowl. There is an overwhelming note of intense lemon curd with an acrid chemical bite to it...but after a while, there is a peculiar sweetness that begins to emerge. I'm sure it will appeal to some more discerning palates, but not to mine.
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Wibblefishofdoom
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01/03/2012 |
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Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| Not sure I should be reviewing this now as I am still not sure what to make of it, even after smoking a full tin. I was wide-eyed with anticipation upon first opening the packet and getting a waft of lemongrass that, at first, made me think of cola cubes. Such a pleasantly sweet aroma promised more treats within, perhaps giving me the anticipation of a more lemony, sweeter version of SG's fantastic Squadron Leader.
Continuing bravely on, I found the packing very easy, as it usually is with a good ribbon such as this, as was the lighting. I could not, with both the first puff and every smoke since, decide exactly what I was getting from this. The room note was pleasantly unmemorable and the taste in the mouth, well, what was it? Hints of a less sweet lemongrass? Maybe, can't really put my finger on it. All the way through the tin, I don't remember a single pipeful that really made me sit back and go "Ah!", even with tonguebite, which it seems to be completely lacking. Maybe a dash of it might have actually made me sit up and pay attention in class.
I am going to have to buy another tin because I need to find out what this tobacco is really like, maybe I'll have to buy two to be sure. Until then, I guess three stars will have to do. It's not ball-breakingly bad, it's not even bland. It does, however, lack that punch of flavour that I have come to expect of SG.
Update 29/02/2012: Just finished another tin and, oh may I say, I think I missed out first time round. This tin was a little damper than my first, which I think makes all the difference. What was a good tobacco has become a fine one. That taste of lemon sponge cake is just fantastic, that fruit flavour comes through so much better. It does take a few relights however, but it is worth it. This is a good tobacco dry, and a great one damp, hence the extra star.
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SteelCowboy
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12/15/2011 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Having enjoyed Grousemoor Plug, I set out on the long journey to find a rarely available tin of Grousemoor Mixture. Having finally found a couple of tins I set off to make the inevitable comparison between the plug and the mixture. The mixture has a much stronger floral scent in the pouch, typical of most Lakeland aromatics. While the plug has somewhat of a “baked cookie” taste with the florals further in the background, the mixture shares the similar taste of cookies with a much more forward floral scent. (Yes, I know it sounds a little silly and I seldom compare tobacco to food). The tobacco found in most Lakeland style blends is of high quality and it really comes down to whether or not the smoker finds the casing appealing, so Grousemoor will likely be a love or hate blend for most pipers. Be sure to have a pipe set aside for Grousemoor because it will leave a ghost in your briar. For me, it won’t be an everyday blend, but I will keep some around as a nice change of pace. Recommended.
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Kokinhenik
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11/12/2011 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Very interesting. The tin has a unique aroma, sweet tomato and zesty lemon,grass, faint fig and floral. It smelled like an English but after the Virginia passes, were the latakia back note would be, there is a subtle flowery/grassy note. My tin didn’t have any moisture issues, the tobacco was ready to go. It has a wonderful flavor to the smoke, very smooth and creamy with a decidedly prominent lakeland floral finish. It’s really tasty! Not a bad smoke…but it does leave a rather unwelcome taste in ones mouth. The after taste it left in my mouth was an experience all to its self. If you could take the tin smell, mix it with spit and old tobacco ash…that’s the taste you would get. It has hints of chemical and lemon. That after taste was strange to experience, it was easily twice as strong as most blends. It's regrettabl, as the smoke is so enjoyable, but I have to give it two stars as there are other blends that are just as tasty but don't leave that nasty after taste.
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endubito
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11/06/2011 |
Mild
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Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant
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| I wanted to hate it. I DID hate it. I couldn't stand it. But I couldn't stop filling my pipe with it.
I just ordered a pound of it.
What's with this tobacco? Crack on a leaf? God help me.
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Withnail
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11/04/2011 |
Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| This is one of the first blends I have bought as a result of comments left on this site - along with knowing which types of tobacco I prefer.
I can see this is a tobacco will divide opinion with some loving, some hating and very few neutral opinions. When I first opened the tin I was disappointed by the aroma. It really does smell strongly of Lemon Grass and I thought I may have made an error buying a tin rather than a smaller sample size.
However, once in the pipe and lit, I was really surprised by how different it tasted. Proof again that the smell from the tin isn't always a good guide to smoking taste. The blend has a soft and smooth taste with not too much nicotine. Some have described this blend as "soapy" or "oily" and I can see why they would use those words. I would prefer to call it "creamy" or "velvet" as I enjoy the sensation.
It is not easy to describe the flavour as you smoke. Sort of, Lemon Tea, but not quite. Maybe an English style sponge cake with a delicate flavour. This is certainly more subtle than many of the aromatics I smoke with the casing adding a little back note rather than being to the forefront of the taste. It certainly seems to contain good quality Virginia tobacco that has a modest extra flavour added.
If the thought of "soapy" smoke turns you off then avoid this blend. But if you like the idea of a rich and creamy taste, then I would suggest you try a couple of bowls of Grousemoore.
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TheSmokinDragon
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08/23/2011 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium
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| as others have said very soap-soap-soapy/florals in this blend..great quality bacci, just not to my likes
Update: 9/25- taste or change of pipe-weed..this stuff is GOOD! I have a few tins moving faster than light in the pipe
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Capt
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08/01/2011 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium to Strong
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Medium
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Tolerable
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| This is a blend that is almost impossible to describe. The tin aroma is like no other, almost has that Lars Teten infused oil cigar smell.
All blond, ribbon cut, high quality tobacco is designated to this blend. Lighting can be a bit difficult, it is a bit moist in the tin. I have a tin opened since 2005, and it is smoking great now.
Good blend for the springtime, while outdoors.
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Relapse
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03/25/2011 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Some years ago I purchased half dozen 50g tins of this blend, fully expecting something else. I didn't like it straight out and ended giving away most of it, except a tin that I sealed in plastic wrap and set aside to age. A month ago I opened it, transferred it to a humidor flask and started smoking it. Although improved, I still find it truly deceptive and disapointing. The taste has a chemical tang to it; the flavor is -how to put it- rancid? The expected VA sweetness is just not there. Perhaps I'm too set on other types of blends, mainly English types and rich Virginias. This one is not for me. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Edit: On the plus side, it won't bite, smokes cool and the leaf quality is quite good. Moved it from 1 to 2 stars.
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frben
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02/19/2011 |
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Extremely Mild
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Very Mild
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Tolerable
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| Un gran bel profumo all'apertura della scatola e null'altro.A mio avviso insipido con leggero sentore di limone e erba probabilmente aromatizzato con additivi chimici. Non raccomandato
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Caripu
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01/24/2011 |
Mild
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Strong
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Mild to Medium
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Tolerable
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| I love most stuff from SG. Skiff, Chocolate Flake and Navy Flake are three of my favourites tobaccos and right now I store about 45 tins of SG mixtures and flakes in my cellar. As other blens of this manufacturer the leaves in it are high quality. But I have only three words to describe this one: soapy, soapy and soapy. Try it if you like the Lakelands soapy and herbal flavors only.
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Monopod
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11/14/2010 |
Mild to Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant
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| Grousemoor ?? I've bog-hopped enough grousemoors to recognise the aura of one ... that is when I had two legs. The memory is more poignant perhaps since I won't be doing it again in this life.
I got no citrus scent or flavour, but what I did get was the faint acid tang of the peat, sweetness of moorland grasses and heather, and the tang of bruised bracken from under my feet.
Nostalgic ? Perhaps, but the underlying consistently good tobacco combined with my memories "Does" it for me.
How could I not want a regular rendez-vous with this one ?
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SMOKETSES
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11/10/2010 |
Medium
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Pleasant
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| Firstly I would like to apologize because I bought it thinking that it contained latakia, without doing any research. I was wrong in composition, but not to the quality. Virginia with a very distinctive aroma of flowers and plum or fig. What matters to me is that it retains its aroma and flavor all the way to the end of the bowl. I was also surprised by how clean my pipe was after smoking. Fills the bowl and lights easily, not very heavy. I forgot to mention that is a major problem. It is very humid when opened (probably the most humid tobacco I’ve ever smoked) and it needs a lot of patience in the drying process. I will order 2-3 tins to keep in store and occasionally smoke, making an aromatic break.
A blend of bright and brown Virginia grades with Latakia, matured under pressure in the Cavendish style and blended with golden Virginia Broad Cut.Slow burning with a cool and gentle smoke
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Captain Pete
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11/09/2010 |
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| Over the years, I have smoked most of the Samuel Gawith blends. There have been some I didn't care for, but most have provided a very positive, if not downright delightful, experience. Grousemoor is of the latter; it's an exceptional blend.
The ribbon cut is nearly always a little over moist upon first opening the tin, but if you've been cellaring it for a couple years or more, it will be perfect. Most people seem to be unable to put their finger on any exact flavoring used, as there is such a melange of different tastes and smells, that to do so would be impossible. It has a hint of the Lakeland floral to it, but this is barely detectable among all the other flavors.
There is a definite citrus note to it, as well as a delightful peatiness. It is mildly sweet, never bitter, and nearly always bite free. It is just simply a very good tobacco that smokes down to a fine gray ash. The flavor is complex, so don't get bogged down trying too hard to sort it out. Just enjoy the ride.
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DrDyson
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10/24/2010 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium
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| Grousemoor is a ribbon-cut tobacco that needs to be dried a little before trying to smoke it. It suffers from the besetting sin of SG tinned tobaccos: it comes a good deal too moist. Aromatic? – yes, but in a much more subtle sense than some aromatic abominations are. Lemon grass? – maybe; but there’s a mixture of flavours and fragrances here that I can’t put my finger on.
It’s difficult to put my response to Grousemoor into words; but I find it too mild and the flavours too elusive: certainly not understated, but too ‘confused’ to give me anything definite. Because of this, I puff too hard and it bites me. If I smoke at a sensible pace, I hardly get anything out of it at all: it’s a bit like listening to good music but with the volume turned down just that little bit too low. I don’t get on with very strong tobaccos, but I do like a tasty flake and (occasionally) a Latakia mixture, and Grousemoor is much too intelligent a tobacco for me.
It’s a very old blend, they say: it’s been popular for a long while, and I see that some reviewers here adore it. It’s certainly a high-quality tobacco. Worth a try, then, if only to say that you have. Personally, I don’t like it much - to my mind there's just not enough to it; but I can see its virtues, and I’m happy to recommend it to those whose palates are more civilised than mine. It’s an acquired taste. I think that, with perseverance and an open mind, I might be able to acquire it. But, then again, there are too many tobaccos that I know and like to spend time and money on acquiring a taste for this one.
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Fellow traveler
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10/19/2010 |
Medium
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Very Pleasant
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| I also love this blend. A sweet all blond lemon virginia with some tang to it. Pefect cut and a scent that is unique in all of tobaccodom. Like all Gawith blends, top quality and no excuses.
As one of our esteemed professors has said repeatedly, "enjoyment for the experienced discriminating serious piper".
Read A. Morley Jaques or Sinister Topiary for a long version of this review.
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