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Old Gowrie

Brand: Rattray
Blender: Kohlhase, Kopp und Co. KG
Tin Description: This blend is a Virginia(with a hint of Perique) tobacco, rubbed-out for a finer cut.In my opinion it does not get much better than this!!
Country of Origin: DE
Curing Group: Air Cured
Contents:
Kentucky
Virginia
Perique
Cut: Ready Rubbed
Packaging: 50g Tin, 4oz Tin, Bulk



Average Ratings
Strength: Medium
Flavoring: None detected
Taste: Medium
Room Note: Pleasant to Tolerable
Recommendation: Recommended


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Showing reviews 1 through 20 of 161 reviews of this tobacco
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Taste Buds 08/23/2010 Mild None detected Mild to Medium Pleasant to Tolerable highly recommended
This beauty of a smoke makes me sorry for not trying it years ago. I tried Marlin Flake a few years back and didn't care for the taste. I don't remember why. Maybe it was the added strength or the cavendish or the additional nicotene. But this is light and elegant. The touch of Kentucky keeps it smooth and cool and adds body and not strength. A no bite delight. Smooth and naturally delicious. The perique is ever so lightly applied, but it's there in every puff. This is a masterpiece of blending genious. This is definitely a four star blend in every way.


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Countrygent 07/28/2010 Mild to Medium Extremely Mild Medium Pleasant recommended
I predominantly smoke virginias, and enjoy milder examples.

Old Gowrie has some pretty fair reviews below - this is an unpretentious, quality tobacco, easy-smoking, mild but with a pleasant virginia dominant flavour, slightly ashy in the second half of the bowl, and a pronounced sweet and lingering aftertaste.

Smokers that are looking for a "statement" of flavorings will probably find Old Gowrie wanting - there is little apparent topping which suggests it is a plain sugar and vinegar treatment, in good balance, or a light hand indeed in what flavorings have been added. Very little perique, if any, certainly less than some of the best-known Vapers.

This is a bit of purist smoke for the plain, milder virginia smoker looking for nuance rather than bold statement. There is subtlety and pleasure in smoking it dry and slow. I'll cellar a fair amount - it would be an excellent blender with topped blends that are found to overbearing, or could take a pinch or two of latakia or perique in stride. Solid stuff.


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Daggers62 06/07/2010 Medium Mild Medium Pleasant to Tolerable somewhat recommended
It is a very nice tobacco. Beautiful fruity smell from the tin, it reminded me of a nice thick fruit cake full of raisins and currants.

A nice sweet taste of virginia but that was about it. In the UK we have to pay a little bit more for Rattray and it certainly wasnt worth that extra quid.

Very nice smoke but nothing special


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Virginia lover 05/09/2010 Mild None detected Mild Pleasant to Tolerable somewhat recommended
My first Rattray blend. Virginia with Kentucky and a hint of Perique. Musky, fermented smell with dry fig and raisin undertones. The wet broken flake packs and smokes well from the tin. A light Perique blend with a decent amount of flavor that will probably get better as it dries over time. The flavor is naturally sweet, tangy and has that classic fig and raisin Virginia taste with a shade of spiciness from the Perique.

Update :I sincerely expected more but the tobacco taste remains the same after a few weeks even when transferred to a jar. 2.5 stars in conclusion. There are better tobaccos with Perique on the market, Three Nuns (the square tin) being one of them.


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utahpipeman 05/07/2010 Medium None detected Medium Pleasant to Tolerable recommended
Hmmmm...2 stars or 3 stars. This is high quality tobacco for sure. Nice pure tobaccos that don't have as much bite as I have found in other virginias. The only problem is that you really have to like that soapy taste and mouth feel that some tobacco has. I happen to dislike that taste, but I'll still rate it for what it is without my personal bias and just give you fair warning.


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Plunket 04/04/2010 Medium Mild to Medium Medium Pleasant to Tolerable somewhat recommended
I've not smoked Old Gowrie for about 10 years, but it has changed beyond recognition. This used to be a straight virginia blend and altogether lighter in colour. It's now darker in colour, almost as if another leaf is in the blend, and I do detect a perique background - it's also lost its tangy virginia flavour that was so pronounced in its original composition. All this simply means that OG has not survived, un-scathed, the transition to Kohlhase Kopp blending unlike HOTW and Brown Clunee, both of which faired better and still retain their original composition - more or less.

All said and done, OG still produces a reasonable smoke as a blended virginia, but for the die-hard purests, there are better straight virginia alternatives.


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terada 04/04/2010 Mild Mild Mild to Medium Pleasant somewhat recommended


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pipealicious 04/03/2010 Medium to Strong None detected Medium to Full Pleasant highly recommended
My number one Virginia blend. My tin is blended by the German house by the name Kohlhase&Kopp. The tin aroma is enticing: a musky, tangy, hay-like, natural sweetness. The humidity was perfect and the broken flakes are very easy to handle and stuff loosely in the pipe. The tobacco flavor is complex, sweet, grassy, but not very lemon-like as in other pure Virginias, such as Full Virginia Flake by Samuel Gawith. I prefer Old Gowrie over FVF due to this aspect. Nothing beats this for me at the moment.


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PeteSavinelli 03/22/2010 Medium to Strong None detected Medium Pleasant to Tolerable recommended
Honestly, OG is not really my style or preference. BUT, taken for what it is, it is obviously a very high quality tobacco that burns well and clean with a nice, but not overpowering flavor. I tend to smoke a bit hot and this really did not bite me at all and my bowl stayed as cool as anything I've smoked. If Virginias are your thing, you could do a heck of a lot worse than OG.


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Susanna Hoffs 03/16/2010 Mild to Medium Mild to Medium Mild to Medium Pleasant to Tolerable recommended
A millitary medium VA...

Easy cool all day smoke. Lighter than HOTW which I find is a touch more peppery than OG.

When I need an extra dimension or fuller flavour I plump for FVF. But OG is a welcome edition to my prefered VA tastes.


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Michael 03/13/2010 Medium None detected Medium Pleasant to Tolerable recommended
There are over 150 reviews of OG, so I'll keep it short: It's smooth, tangy and satisfying with a bit of natural sweetness -- and it's "well behaved," as reported. If there's perique in the recipe, it's there in small measure. This one's a classic. With top-shelf Virginias such as these, it's no wonder why I also enjoy Rattray's English mixtures.

I am not a pure Virginia smoker, so consider the context of my three stars.


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Synthacus 03/08/2010 Medium Extremely Mild Medium to Full Pleasant highly recommended
Rattray is great name to see on your tin. Whether it is Old Gowrie or Hal' O the wind.

I just can't wait for my piggy bank to fill or to finish a new pipe. Then I go out and try a Rattray I haven't tried before.

This is my Englishish Rattray blend but i hate to label them that way.

Each blend can be tagged based on an old blend but the truth of the matter is they only use broad strokes. They must be looking for the best 21st century blend and not hoping to recreate last centuries fave.


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Mr. Mac 02/16/2010 Medium None detected Medium Pleasant to Tolerable recommended
Old Gowrie has a wonderful tin aroma, but it's far to wet to smoke straight out of the tin. At the risk of editorializing, I always scratch my head when I read reviews that criticize a tobacco for smoking "too wet"--unless one is dealing with a particularly heavy casing, most condensation and bowl gurgle can usually be dealt with by letting a blend breathe a bit before packing or switching to a higher quality briar (or a corncob, for that matter). But I digress.

OG is grassy, and less sweet than I was expecting from the tin smell. It's well- behaved for a virginia, which is to say it'll still bite easily enough if I get distracted. It has an oat-y note from time to time as well, and a nice, faint clover flourish that shows up once in a while near the end of the bowl.

Maybe I'd "get" OG better if I could afford to dedicate a pipe to it (I do keep my straight virginia pipe pretty clean), but for right now, I'm going to give it three stars. It's good for what it is, and maybe that's all one can ask of any blend, but there are so many other great straight virginias out there--Full Virginia Flake, Best Brown Flake, the McClelland 20's, etc.--that I really don't see what all the fuss is about.


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Grizzly 01/27/2010 Medium None detected Medium to Full Pleasant to Tolerable recommended
First off let me say that I am a novice pipe smoker and I cant detect every nuance in different tobaccos but I know what I like. As I am still learning which blends i like I bought a tin of 50g of this with 3 other different tobaccos namely Connoisseurs Choice, Old Dublin and Sunset Breeze. I must admit that the number one choice for me was C.C. however this pushed it a close second. In actual fact it was the first of the four tins that I finished. Although that was only because I wanted to prolong my supply of CC until I could get some more. That being said I found this to be a perfectly good smoke. When opening the tin you get a whiff of hay and a sweetness of dried fruit. The sweetness is evident in the smoking too. Obviously I am beginning to identify the sweetness of the Virginia leaf. Half way down the bowl I get a spiciness which does not overpower the smoke and all in all leaves you wanting more. I thought that my better half wouldnt like the smell of this but when I lit up in the car she commented that the smell wasnt unpleasant at all. Which for her was a massice compliment as she dislikes tobacco smoke (cigarettes).

I have added this tobacco to my list of definitely must have again, but for now I am still exploring although apart from Connoisseurs Choice I feel that this tobacco has shown me which area to explore in the future and that will in the direction of good Virginias. Am looking forward to trying Marlin Flake, Petersons University Flake and SGs Best Brown Flake. these should make for interesting comparisons.

Of the others I tried I definitely wont be getting another tin of Old Dublin again (see other review)which was not my cup of tea. Which I guess was due to the smokey quality of the Latakia. which gave me hiccups no matter how slow I smoked. I will also give sunset breeze a miss too especially as Connoisseurs Choice is much more pleasant to my taste.


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eamonclever 01/08/2010 Medium None detected Medium to Full Tolerable highly recommended
i haven´t reviewed one of my top notch tobaccos ... don´t know why. Always keep some in my cabinet but I don´t reach the stage to get some aged tobaccos so far... What to say more - I love the tin aroma, the tobacco out of the tin in my bowl in my mouth and out through my nose. It is perfect in the va department for ready rubbed tobaccos. Why - even though it comes out of the Rattray line there still exists imo a big difference if you smoke the rattray virginia tobaccos as a flake or ready rubbed. The ready rubbed invites you with aroma that is nicely performed through the entire bowl, so you can always be sure what your smoking experience will be. If you are looking for a tobacco that has a good amount of nicotine & good "smokers" taste you have to try OG. It is also good for beginners because there is not much care needed to keep it going.


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DrDyson 01/04/2010 Medium None detected Medium Pleasant highly recommended
A wonderful tobacco, for a given value of ‘wonderful’: i.e. completely natural and untampered with. The tin note and room note are superb; the flavour when lit is sweet, full and natural, and stays the same all the way down the bowl. If you like your tobacco straightforward and uncased, you’ll like this: pure Virginia, with the spicy touch of Perique in there as well, adding a little depth and body to the Virginia flavour.

Despite the ‘rubbed out’ description on the tin OG seems to me more like a broken flake. In my experience (though I see that not everyone agrees with me on this) it isn’t necessary to rub it out any further, though it’s a good idea to let it dry a little. Smoke it slowly to avoid bite and get the best out of the subtle flavours. It'll bite if you rush it, but it's a very gentle smoke if you treat it with care.

There really isn’t much more that one can say about this tobacco. It’s superb without being in any way fancy or exotic. It reminds me a little bit, I think, of two old favourites, long gone: W.D. and H.O. Wills's Cut Golden Bar, and Player's No Name. But this is going back a very long way, and maybe my memory is faulty. Anyway, it's a first-rate tobacco.

(A bit expensive, unfortunately: perhaps more of a ‘special occasion’ smoke than an everyday one. Well worth the money, though, if you like the kind of thing it is.)


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chuckt808 12/20/2009 Medium to Strong None detected Medium Tolerable highly recommended
My absolute favorite tobacco. An excellent Virginia, much more complex and nuanced than FVF. Wonderful smell, divine taste: organic, citrusy, earthy. Absolute must try for fans of Virginias. For what it's worth, I have not tried Hal O' The Wind but I have tried Marlin Flake and I enjoy Marlin Flake as well but this is just a shade better for me.


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FALCON 12/04/2009 Medium to Strong None detected Medium to Full Tolerable recommended
this is god i like it but i not can take straight virginia its get to my stomach.


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Porch Smoke 12/01/2009 Medium None detected Medium Very Pleasant highly recommended
VA blends are my favorite followed closely by English blends. Of all the VA blends I have tried in my limited amount of pipe smoking experience(4 years) this blend has been my hands down favorite. The tobacco arrives fairly moist with a gorgeous fermented smell in the tin that I like very much in a virginia. The broken/rubbed out flake was easier to pack when fully rubbed out and smoked with only two matches to the end despite its wetness. I did not detect any casing what so ever. This blend is strictly quality tobacco with flavors of oats, salt and pepper, and a slight leathery scent in the nose. I definitely noticed a slight nicotine kick in this blend which was not overbearing and very enjoyable while I was studying for an exam:) The room note was surprisingly fairly sweet considering the lack of flavoring. Found myself puffing away on the very last ashes of this blend and half tempted to smoke another bowl. To all VA lovers this is an easy tobacco to indulge yourself in noticing its many flavors and just as easy to casually puff on and forget about(in a good way).


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dogwood 11/28/2009 Medium None detected Medium Pleasant highly recommended
this is my favorite blend. i'm a virginia lover. i primarily like va/per blends.

old gowrie is a black flake with perique and some other leaf maybe kentucky. it is sweet, balanced and complex. i like that it doesn't have any flavoring just great tobacco blended well.

rattray's virginia blends are all fantastic. give any rattray virginia a try. they're the best.

the only down side to og is that it doesn't come in full flake form. i'd love to rub out this amazing stuff myself or smoke in larger pieces!


 
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