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Firedance Flake
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Samuel Gawith |
| Blender: |
Samuel Gawith |
| Tin Description: |
Developed with one of the U.S.A.'s lady smokers, FireDance is Our Best Brown 6" Flake subtly flavoured with a combination of Blackberry, Brandy and Vanilla. The smoke is a mild, cool experience with the Blackberry the predominant flavour, the Brandy in the background and rounded off with the Vanilla.
A mild and fruity smoke with the strength of Best Brown and a very pleasing room aroma. |
| Country of Origin: |
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Flue Cured |
| Contents: |
Virginia
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Brandy
Fruit / Citrus
Vanilla
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| Cut: |
Flake |
| Packaging: |
50g Tin, Bulk |
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Mild to Medium
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Medium
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Medium
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| Room Note: |
Pleasant
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| Recommendation: |
Recommended
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Massis
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08/17/2010 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium to Strong
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Medium
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Very Pleasant
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| I recently purchased this blend as my first flake tobacco. First thing you notice about Samuel Gawith's tobacco is the pricing. Their 50g tins sell for €11 whereas a 100g tin of Mac Baren's Vanilla cream sells for a mere €13.
The flakes in this tin are somewhat moist, and I find them to smoke best if rubbed and let to dry for about 30minutes before actually packing and smoking.
Upon opening the tin, a very fruity scent immediately fills the room. The blackberry is very dominant in smell, with the brandy and vanilla as a noticeable undertone.
After drying for about 30 minutes, this tobacco is easy to pack and light. Being somewhat thicker (because it's a flake tobacco) it burns very slowly and evenly and smokes very cool. It requires little or no relighting in my Big Ben Bruyere De luxe, in which I smoke it the most.
I got no tonguebite at all from this, but it does tend to get a little too wet every now and then, causing the pipe to gurgle. The taste is what you'd expect upon smelling the unlit tobacco: fruity, quite mild yet complex, with a vanilla undertone. The brandy is a bit absent in my opinion.
Perhaps not really recommended for new smokers, this tobacco has become my absolute favorite blend so far!
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DrDyson
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06/20/2010 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium to Strong
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Medium
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Tolerable
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| Being a fan of most of the Lakeland flakes (with the great exception of Ennerdale), I wanted to like this one – especially since so many other people think well of it. In the event, I found it a disappointment. As always with G & H and SG tobaccos, the leaf itself is of high quality, but the casing is (to my taste) just plain odd, and certainly not subtle. It comes very moist in the tin (the besetting sin of SG flakes) and I found it a very hot smoke that needed a lot of relighting. The suggestion is that FF was blended to suit the female palate. I didn’t know that there is such a thing as a specifically female palate; but, if there is, it’s very different from my male one. This stuff is worth a try – all SG flakes are – and it all depends on what you like, of course; but I couldn’t recommend it more than somewhat. I’d looked forward to trying it, but I won’t be getting any more in. Cellaring will probably calm it down a bit, though.
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OldGrayBeard
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06/16/2010 |
Mild to Medium
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Extra Strong
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Mild to Medium
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Very Pleasant
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| Holy tongue-bite-in-a-bag, Batman! There's a reason the first word is "Fire." Admittedly, I've been smoking since the Stone Age and I tend to smoke a bit faster than my tongue appreciates, but this stuff will burn the enamel off your teeth!
The tin description says it's "subtly flavored." Subtle like a train wreck, maybe. I kid you not, after storing this in a ceramic canister for a year, hoping it would mellow, the ceramic canister is permanently flavored with blackberry. When I still couldn't smoke it, my wife used it as potpourri for a couple of months. The flakes were still wet and sticky when I threw them away.
The best thing I can say about this blend is that if you like blackberry cobbler (and I do), you'll start salivating the instant you open it up.
By the way, lest I be typecast, I freely admit I enjoy a good aromatic. I'm puffing on Mac Baren's Vanilla Cream Flake right now, and I'll probably enjoy some Erinmore Flake before bed. But this "Fire" Flake gives aromatics a bad name! Not Recommended for anyone without an asbestos tongue.
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Fellow traveler
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06/03/2010 |
Medium
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Medium to Strong
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Medium
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Very Pleasant
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| Gee, this lady (from the USA no less) must spend her time at the local dump plinking rats with a 22, when she is not in the trailer. Subtle this is not, it is heavily cased and needs a metal tin or glass jar to contain the blackberry smell. Six plies of plastic will not do it. Overpowering, and like number 44 (43 was a Bush), an embarrassment.
The flakes in my bulk sample look like the contents of the bags the dog owners in our gated community carry. Wet, sticky and not visually appealing. If you are used to the perfect flakes in a tin of Orlik Golden Slices, these are going to be a real let down.
Perhaps if I were "Two Years Before the Mast" (by RH Dana), and had the smoking lamp lit once each month, this blend might be enjoyable. To those of us with the finest tobacco in the world available, this is a curiosity only.
I might enjoy the underlying best brown flake, but this topping is terrible. It starts out very sweet and becomes cloying quickly. The blackberry smell is like a cooked Pop Tart. Try it outdoors first, in a cob, then if you don't like it you can trash the pipe and the memories. If you exhale through your nose it will stay with you for at least a day. It does not leave the pipe.
Worst of all, the flakes need drying out. However the smell is so strong it stinks up the whole area. I tried putting some flakes out in the garage but they attracted cock roaches. I am going to send my 4 ounces to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue for Christmas, that place is full of cock roaches and thieves, so they should enjoy it.
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Susanna Hoffs
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05/08/2010 |
Mild to Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| The flavours aren't massive here, and are more subtle than expected, a little vanilla spice here and a noticeable blackcurrant overtone there. These pleasant aroma's waft from a medium strength virgina that doesn't bite..
Smoking Firedance is at times, reminiscent of catching the 'occasional' whiff of someone baking a blackcurrant crumble (cobbler to the yanks) as one stroll's along a country lane in England during the height of summers eve.
Still not as nice as the real thing though, and this could have been better..
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Kilmarnock Piper
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03/27/2010 |
Medium
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Mild
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| I was a little put off at first by the description of the lady pipe-smoker's "blackberry, brandy, and vanilla." For one thing, I once had a bad experience tasting a blackberry brandy, and was lucky it was only a taste. I saw tins for a good price on an internet retailer's site though, and since the price was right and also because so many Samuel Gawith tobaccos are unavailiable at the moment (back soon, they say!), thought I would give it a chance. Glad I did. The flavorings create a lovely tin scent, and are present at the first lighting up, but only for a few puffs. Henceforth, the sauce is relegated to the background. This is my second SG tobacco based on topped Best Brown Flake, the first being Cannon Plug. The topping on that one remains throughout the smoke. Strangely enough, I have not had BBF by itself, untopped. I will have to get some, as it is obviously a quality Virginia, and it is even more evident that this is so with Firedance than with Cannon (a fun flowery patchouli concoction). The trio of toppings in Firedance Flake do not cover up the fine SG Virginia flavor at all. They make themselves known in a subtle way, more in the room note and "nose" than on the palate. If you, like me, are missing your Gawiths and don't feel like waiting any longer, you will not go wrong with this blend. The tin is pretty cool as well.
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pipeslayer
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03/20/2010 |
Medium
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Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| This is the aromatic that is not an aromatic. Perhaps because it is a flake, this tobacco is a little weird. On the charring light, it brings a burst of fresh blackberry... and I mean FRESH, with the tartness, the sweetness, and summer sun. However, the berry flavor diminishes almost instantly. The remaining smoke is very much dominated by a natural tobacco flavor. There is a subtle berry flavor and vanilla note present, but the topping seems to mostly disappear once this is burning.
The tobacco is first rate. The VA flavor is mellow and medium-bodied, and it is complemented by vanilla throughout, though mildly. I find a bit of a tart aftertaste from the blackberry on relighting, though this seems to fade quickly,
Firedance is unusual and enjoyable, It might not be the ideal smoke for the natural tobacco aficionado, or for the aromatic lover, but it is solid and pleasurable.
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ImAFlake
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03/17/2010 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant
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| I have started using the ball method of rolling the flake in my palm until I have a fluffy tobacco ball and I push the ball in leaving an air space at the bottom. This was a little moist out of the tin, but after a few lights it stayed lit just fine. I loved the berry smell. The last half of the bowl transitions into a more natural and smooth virginia and the berry aroma all but disappears. I like this a lot. It is the best of both worlds to me. Starts out a bit aromatic and ends with natural tobacco. If you are not liking traditional aromatics, but not wanting to go fully into all natural tobacco, give this a try. If you do like this, you might also try Luxury Twist Flake.
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ynrozturk
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03/16/2010 |
Mild
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Mild
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| A friend of mine gave me some of this tobacco, and it is absolutely amazing. I loved it when I first lit it, and halfway through the bowl I was head over heels with it.
Cool, dry, flavorsome and satisfying smoke. There is absolutely no flaws in this which I can see.
I need to find more of this stuff!!
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Bibster
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03/12/2010 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium to Strong
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Medium
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Very Pleasant
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| My overwhelming preference is for English blends and I haven't smoked an aromatic mixture for several years. But, I bought a tin of this stuff on a whim and I was quite impressed with it.
The tin note is strong, with a very intense and pleasant scent of berries. As has been noted before, the flakes are unevenly cut, but I find a certain "rustic" charm to that. They are quite moist, so I elected to rub them out, fill my pipe, and let it sit for several hours.
The berry flavor definitely takes the lead for the first two-thirds of the bowl, with the brandy providing a smooth back note. The tobacco burned very well and required no re-lights (and this was in a cheap, unsmoked Czech-made "basket pipe" I had lying around). I puffed deliberately, and found it to very cool smoking with absolutely no tongue bite. Towards the end of the bowl the vanilla finally made its presence known, and ultimately overtook the berry flavor. The Virginia leaf was also evident through the entire smoke. The tobacco left a very clean and mellow aftertaste.
Although this isn't something I could smoke every day, I will keep a few tins around for an occasional change of pace. All in all, another high quality product from Samuel Gawith.
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Michael
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02/27/2010 |
Mild
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Medium
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Mild
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Tolerable
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| I tried this one as a change of pace. FireDance's appearance is very similar to University Flake's, although its slices aren't as well executed. The aroma is very pleasant in the tin, if not a bit overwhelming, but it all settles down in the bowl. It doesn't bite, even with a relatively brisk cadence, and I got only a slight tinge of bitterness when I was too aggressive. I tasted mostly berry topping and couldn't decipher the other flavorings, which is okay by me, but overall this is a fairly bland smoke. I dislike the room note, preferring UF's by a wide margin. To each his own.
These types of blends are a conundrum to me: they're not sweet enough to satisy an aromatic smoker and not focused or complex enough to please a pure tobacco lover. I much prefer Orlik's Golden Sliced, with its core Virginia tobacco aroma, naturally- sweet flavor and pleasing (if not aromatic) room note.
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renwardhoop
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02/03/2010 |
Medium
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Medium
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Medium
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Very Pleasant
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| Not only was this my first encounter with Firedance, but also my first with flake. Think I was more concerned with the packing of the pipe than with the tobacco attributes.....
A simply delightful scent assails you out of the tin. Smells like one of my late mother's fruit pies. The tobacco is soft and pliable and packing the old pipe couldn't be easier, even for a rook like me, with whatever method suits you. I used the sort-of-stuff-and-ram method !
The smoke is flavoursome as has been reported by other posters. Blackberry-ish. Could even pass as Blackcurrant or perhaps Blueberry. Couldn't detect anything else. Vanilla ? Nope. Brandy ? Nope !
That's ok with me, I'm an aromatics fan and to this rather dulled palate it's a far cry from the neutrality of Peterson's mixtures.
Needs quite a bit of relighting, but of course bear in mind that this is my first experience with a flake. I'm hopeless at assessing room note, but I've had no comments either way so far.
This blend is certainly going to feature prominently in my rotation along with the excellent Celtic Talisman and ideal for your first aromatic flake. I'm really enjoying SG's blends and look forward to opening a tin of their Grousemoor !
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newmission
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01/08/2010 |
Medium to Strong
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Mild
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Medium to Full
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Pleasant
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| The flavor description kept me away from this blend for a long time, but I broke and decided to try it. Great smoke, real nice and full. The sweetness does not stay very long, just a nice early smoothness followed by a firm, pleasent, robust smoke.
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Russell
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01/04/2010 |
Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Medium to Full
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Very Pleasant
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| Perhaps my second favorite tobacco, best brown flake, with a really good top note to smooth out things.
The blackberries are at the forefront, the brandy in the background, and the vanilla almost undetectable, though quite noticeable in the room note.
This could be the holy grail of aromatics.
Upon opening the tin, I find a haphazard row of varying thickness flakes, probably due to being hand cut with a block feeder using the pull-down blade, which is hand fed, which accounts for the different thickness in each flake. But if not, it is a most serious breakdown in quality control.
The moisture was not that bad, the flakes were "gummy" as others had mentioned, but dry out rapidly.
Upon lighting you get blasted with blackberries, but as the bowl burns down, it melts this with the brandy and tobacco flavor quite well. This one actually tastes as it smells, though halfway down the bowl it does develop a character one could call "soapy," albeit it is nothing like a soap, more a creamy character.
This did not bite for me smoked straight out of the tin, and I plan to buy a few pounds for my cabinet. A real winner from Samuel Gawith!
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USA_Traveller
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10/02/2009 |
Mild
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Medium to Strong
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Mild to Medium
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Very Pleasant
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| First there were aromatics. And She Who Must Be Obeyed rejoiced. But the man grew tired and weary. "Surely there must be more to life than these?" he thought. So he began to explore. And soon discovered the pleasure of Full Virgina Flake, Perfection, then Dunhill and soon other fine Virginia flakes, VAPERs and all manner of English. The Man was happy. But She Who Must Be Obeyed was not. "What is that terrible smell!" she exclaimed. And the Man found himself banished to the screen room, alone and forlorn.
"What shall I do," he cried to his trusted confidant, the tobacconist. "She Who Must Be Obeyed has decreed - no Latakia in her presence." The crafty old Sage winked his eye, and wisely produced a tin of legendary renown: "Firedance Flake!"
And so the man carefully pried open the lid. A strong scent of berries (blackberries - oh sweet memories of youth) and brandy greeted his senses. "But I've tried other aromatics, only to be crushed by the fickle flavor that is not true to scent." "Do not fear," said the Wise One. "This one is far truer..."
So the Man returned to his domicile. With fear in his heart and trembling in his fingers he loaded his trusted bent billiard with the flake called "firedance". A light - a puff -- and a smile!
Even She Who Must Be Obeyed was convinced. This is one aromatic that is true to its form. A fine Virginia with a sweet, lingering scent that will enhance any room. And peace and contentment returned.
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BrSpiritus
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07/31/2009 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Very Pleasant
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| At one point in time all I would smoke is aromatics. Then I discovered English blends and flake tobaccos. I turned my back on aromatics because I wrongly judged them to be of the same ilk as borkum riff and captain black... overly cased goopy garbage. I was wrong and to aromatics I owe an apology. Firedance is what aromatics are supposed to be. Flavoured with natural ingedients just to the point where it compliments the wonderful Va tobacco that is the base for this flake. The tin aroma is wonderful with a blackberry/brandy aroma and vanilla hiding in the distant background. This caries through with lighting and can be fully appreciated when gently puffed. I smoke this flake in a Bing's Favourite from Savinelli and I can say I've have a few 1-1 1/2 hour smokes from this flake with minimal relights. Yes the tin benefits from some drying before smoking. I am excited to cellar some tins and revisit them in a year to see what affect aging has on them.
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'Baccy'Ho
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06/18/2009 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant
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| I purchased a sample of this a few years ago. When I first took it for a spin, I found it to be wet, bitey and over cased. My wife loved the room note. Not all bad. Enter today.... This sample has about 3 years of age on it. It grew those nice "crystals" that sweeter tobaccos can develope. I dried some for a couple of hours and all I have to say is WOW! Age is good for some blends, GREAT for this one. Age it, dry it, smoke it, love it. This blend rewrites the book on what an aromatic can and should be. The VA's shine through, the casing is subdued and married well with the Best Brown. If you like Best Brown, and are in the mood for an aromatic, give this one a try. I plan on adding a half dozen tins to my cellar.
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Britannia
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06/08/2009 |
Mild to Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Medium
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Very Pleasant
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| I am not an aromatic smoker by any means. I tend to avoid them, and on the spur of a moment pick a tin or a small amount of bulk up, it just reaffirms my opinions.
However, in regards to this blend, I had to throw my preconceived notions out the window.
This is good stuff! Not for an everyday smoke, but once in a while when the mood hits.
It's supposed to be cased with brand, blackberry's, and vanila.
My perceptions picked up the brandy slightly and the blackberries are in the forefront. The blend never got gooey, or sour as I hear some English Aromatics tend to do. The vanilla was nowhere to be seen such that my tastebuds could detect it.
If you tend to avoid aromatics like the plague, I would walk on the wild side for a bit and try this blend. You might be surprised.
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uvacom
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06/02/2009 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| I do not care for this tobacco. I bought it at a B&M based on a recommendation from the shop owner. I like the tin aroma of this more than most aromatics (which I do not really appreciate in general), and I like the consistency of this flake. But I can offer no praise beyond that. I find the taste to be acrid, sour, and unpleasant. Further, this leaves a sticky, foul residue on my pipe. Thankfully I use a clay pipe for such tobaccos so this did not present an issue, but I strongly caution against smoking this in a briar unless you already know that this tobacco is suited to your preferences.
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kg0mz
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05/15/2009 |
Mild to Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant
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| This one grows on me.
The flakes in my tin have a pleasant aroma and are thick and hefty with moisture. I rub out the flakes or fold them, but I never dry them, and I have no problems. The berry/brandy/vanilla flavor is not syrupy, but delicate to elusive. The tobacco is sweet and combines with the flavoring to produce a cool burning, expansive and rich smoke. I frequent many Lakeland tobaccos, and I do not detect any "soap" in Firedance.
I have experimented by tossing in a wee bit of Brown Bogie or #4 Twist, and while the addition ratchets up the strength I think it also disturbs the balance. Firedance is a mild to medium Virginia with a subtle aromatic counterpart. I think it works when you go slow. If you like a mild to medium tobacco and are not put off by a dash of flavoring, then I recommend you try this.
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