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Dark Star
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McClelland |
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McClelland Tobacco Company |
| Tin Description: |
This tobacco begins as Bright Yellow, sugary top grade Virginia and Carolina leaf. Through careful triple aging, pressing and stoving, it becomes rich, cool and dark. A spicy aroma. |
| Country of Origin: |
US |
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Air Cured |
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Flake |
| Packaging: |
50g or 100g Tin |
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Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Recommendation: |
Recommended
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Marshall Law
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05/13/2010 |
Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| I can't seem to find a McClelland's blend I DON'T like, and this is by no means an exception. This is a truly unique smoke - rich, tangy, sweet, smooth and alluring virginias, and then some. It's almost like someone threw a light dose of the finest black cavendish and a pinch of Royal Cajun Ebony into some aged Aurora. Certainly not an aromatic, but a delicious treat all the same. I find myself ramping up the cadence regularly to accelerate and intensify the wonderful flavor experience, especially mid-bowl, and have to stop myself from smoking it like a runaway chimney out of sheer amusement and indulgence. No tongue bite, either, despite placing unreasonable and selfish demands on the bowl. The trademark tangy, smokey-sweet BBQ undertones and a slight, not-unpleasant, earthy tar-like quality enhance this particular blend, rather than imbalancing or dominating it.
Unlike some other reviewers, I tend to break this down by peeling the flakes longwise into fine strands with some length to them, rather than rubbing and crumbling it down into little hard bits. Once it is fine enough to tangle, I pack it more tightly than normal, usually into a low, wide bowl. I then have no issues whatsoever getting it lit and keeping it going, right to the bottom of the bowl. Puts out rich, luxurious clouds of dense, fragrant smoke. This has become one of my frequent evening companions, sitting out over the lake bidding adieu to the fleeting sunset and ushering in the blackness of night, as the balmy breezes rustle the maples. As the darkness descends, Dark Star provides euphoric accompaniment to Lustmord's The Place Where the Black Stars Hang and a quality tawny port. A worthy and memorable experience, now go find out for yourself what McClelland's can do with virginias and carolinas in this savory blend...
UPDATE: It was so tempting I decided to, in fact, throw a pinch of Lane's BCA in with a bowl of Dark Star. The results were predictable...an even more intoxicating smoke, with slight hints of sweetness which counter and balance the tanginess and slight tar-like qualities, to further mellow the smoke and smooth out the taste very slightly. Even more fragrant room note, just as cool smoking, and simply low-maintenance to light and keep lit, right down to the bottom of the bowl, with an occasional gentle tamping. If you like Dark Star, and are also an aromatic fan, try a small pinch of Lane's BCA or some other high quality black cavendish such as Bennington's Raven or McClelland's VBC. You won't be disappointed.
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happy jack
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04/13/2010 |
Mild to Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| I just love this. I think the tin opening is intoxicating. The preperation is as wonderfull as the smoke. I feel like a kid in a candy shop with this stuff. I open the can and let it breath for a few days, the pour it out on a large sheet of wax paper, and rub this stuff, over and over and over,... Ahaa so cool man, I just drop this in a dedicated meerchum," I would not use any thing else. lightly tamp with my finger and light, take smooth sips and don't be concerned with relights, this is a smoke that has so much character, not to complex, keeps in your pouch very well and long, keeps getting better, pipe after pipe. 5 stars
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theresyourtrouble
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03/18/2010 |
Medium
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Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| first off, im new to pipe smoking, so dont expect anything fancy... based on the descriptions and reviews, i ordered a tin of this and am very gld i did. although it is slightly wet (my tin is from 06, if im reading the date right), i had no problem getting it to stay lit after simply rubbing it between my palms and packing a very small bowl to take my first taste. despite the horrible smell when you open the can (and horrible is a massive understatement) it stayed lit on the second try after a slight tamping, and stayed lit to the bottom of the bowl. first impressions, smooth and deep, second impression, wow! im in love. did i mention smooth? even for me, someone whos never even smoked a cigarette, i didnt so much as hiccup! even with no flavouring the taste is incredible. smoky, dark, like being lost in the woods after a heavy rain. that smell of wet earth, where you can almost taste the air. amazing. it did burn very hot, even the tiny amount i packed, my cheapo corn cob job was blazing, but still managable to hold, although i wonder if that would be the case with a full bowl. highly recomended. im definately gonna buy a few 100g tins to age.
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Michael
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03/16/2010 |
Medium to Strong
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Very Mild
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Medium to Full
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| These are the darkest flakes that I've ever seen. Dark Star should have been named "Black Star," as the rustic, pressed strips resemble the color of freshly-laid asphault. The tin note is typical McClelland, although its barbeque-sauce blast is much more pronounced than other blends in the lineup, and the familair essence carries over to the bowl. The flakes are also damp and somewhat sticky, but they burn down to a fairly dry ash.
I have had problems keeping it lit, and the best way to handle it (besides obviously drying it out) is to be more aggressive than usual with your charring lights and relights -- counterintuitive for a Virginia. DS requires some patience and determination along the way. I personally have no problems with the latter; it's the former that I lack. But once you get it going, it will reward you, and the last third is sublime. This stuff is vinegary, rich, satisfying and doesn't bite. It pairs extremely well with a good California Cabernet Sauvignon, such as Rodney Strong.
So why two stars? It's too high maintenance for me.
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03/14/2010 |
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| My grandfather used to say, "There's an ass for every seat." This is not where I'll be parking mine.
I tried this blend a number of years ago and my recollection is that I didn't like it. However, after reading the praises and at the recommendation of a friend, who was kind enough to give me an aged tin, I decided to try it again and see if my dim memory was correct.
I have a pretty one sided negative view of this blend even still. I don't particularly agree with the negative comments some others offer about the flake itself, which rubs out easily and burns easily enough if dried out to optimum smoking level. In fact, the easy rub and burn is about the only thing I can find here that isn't problematic.
I opened my tin and before I could bring it up for a sniff, the overwhelming funk of the legendary McClelland ketchup and vinegar casing rose to greet me with all the subtlety of being hit in the face with a 2x4. In order to write a review I loaded a bowl into a sacrificial pipe and struggled to smoke it, hoping the taste might eventually become tolerable, which I'm afraid, never happened.
Frankly, I do not understand how McClelland survives, obviously collaborating with the folks at Heinz, to create their signature character that infects all the blends I've sampled. Obviously, there is a population of smokers out there that enjoys this flavoring. I don't.
The ketchup handicap is worsened by the addition of what is euphemistically described as "spice". This seems to also be a topping of some sort and is unlike anything I've ever tasted in a "natural" tobacco.
In summary, I had to cover the tin and get it out of the room in order to escape the nauseating potpourri wafting from the can. There are very few blends that I cannot manage to smoke through 50 grams of and find some redeeming quality. This one is headed directly for the trash, less the one bowl I've suffered through. Uggggh.
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Captain bob
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03/05/2010 |
Medium
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Mild
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Tolerable
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| This is fine tobacco but in a much different league than mild aromatics. My tin is dated Marh 2007. Plenty of moisture. That is a good thing as far as I am concerned. Big slices... unbelievable and excitingly interesting. Black as the Ace of Spades, too!
This is an aged Virginia that has been pressed and stoved. Now, we are into "real" tobacco! Tobacco that stands completely on its own without any added flavoring. I have a place in my heart for this stuff even though I generally smoke mild aromatics. I can really appreciate this as a treat but not an all day blend by any means. I'll rotate this with my heavy Latakia Blends because I do love non-aromatic leaf, especially matured Virginia. This is exceptional. A little goes a long way in a big bowl. You will need some re-lights and some tamping. I simply folded the slices and jammed them into the bowl. All in all, an exceptional treat.
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vinnie799
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03/02/2010 |
Medium
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Medium
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Medium to Full
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Tolerable
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| In the past yeasr or twohave discovered VA Flake tobaccos.I've lcome to like several differnt ones. Along my journey I discovered Dark Star. A very deep rich, in my opiinion, smoky tobacco remieniscient of McLelland's Cajun Black. Dark Star to me has a full taste and feeling in the mouth and a pleasant aroma even just french inhaling it. It is a bit difficult to keep lit if it is not rubbed out a bit. I wouldn't recommend a fold and stuff process though as it is rather dense and doesn't take a light real well this way. I find that if I rub it out between my palms it breaks up just nice enoughto fill my bowl easily. However rub it too much and it has broken into too little peices for my liking but it does light easier. It reminds me of a cube cut when I rub it out thoroughly. the wife says it smells a bit strong to her but them it seems our other halves are wired different sometimes. A smooth ,pleasant rich and medium to lightly full feeling and flavor. I would recommend it to any VA or VAper smoker. And it'also named after one of my favorite Grateful Dead songs!
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Kapnismologist
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01/14/2010 |
Medium
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Medium to Full
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Moist, partially broken flakes which are black to very dark brown in color with occasional chocolate-hued veining. The tin nose is sharp yet deep, with a marked acetic acid note covering a pungent, woody sweetness and the aroma of fresh, wet clay. Measuring approximately 1” x 2” and 1/16th” in thickness when whole, the dark rubbery flakes are not particularly amenable to easy preparation and can be, to put it mildly, something of a pain to pack and keep lit. Experimentation with a variety of preparation techniques was necessary to find what works. For this reviewer, the flakes seemed to do best when allowed to reach a substantial level of dryness and then placed in smaller pipes with narrow gauge chambers, partially ‘rubbed’ (meaning, in this case, broken into chunks by hand or cubed with scissors).
In the bowl, Dark Star offers a pleasant combination of rich, syrupy spice and semi-sweet chocolate with notes reminding of wood smoke, old cinnamon sticks, molasses, and the caramelized sugar crust of crème brûlée fresh from under the broiler. For this reviewer, allowing the flakes to smolder (accompanied by measured sipping) produced the best results. DGT is delightful as is the second half of a fresh bowl, where the flavor nuances begin to emerge. Dark Star goes particularly well with a cup or two of freshly ground, dark roast coffee, preferably after dinner. On the full side of medium bodied, the finish is long with a savory, woody tang.
Not for the impatient, Dark Star is much quicker to punish inattention than it is to reward persistence. At the same time, however, this reviewer is left with a sneaking suspicion that there is more going on in these odd black flakes than just one tin can reveal. Based on a tin dating to 2004, it is highly unlikely that Dark Star could ever become an ‘everyday Virginia’ around these parts, but it does beckon for more attention and further consideration down the road. Given the constituent tobaccos of the blend, its suitability for cellaring and long-term aging seems obvious.
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Capt. Cavendish
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12/09/2009 |
Mild to Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| You know, I probably shouldn't review when I'm in a bad mood, but it's hard to imagine this being much better if I was in a good mood. So here goes. What a let down. I had hoped for so much more from this blend, but was sorely disappointed. For one, it set me back eleven bucks that I could have happily spent on one of the McClelland premium aromatics that I oh so enjoy. This tobacco was so wet I had to lay some out on a paper plate and let it dry for 36 hours before lighting. And what's with the name? I couldn't stop thinking about Darth Vader when I smoked this, wondering if all the heavy syrups were aging my skin to the point that I was going to look like Vader with his helmet off by the time I finished the tin. Maybe I'm not Jedi enough to appreciate this one, but I think I'll look elsewhere in the McClelland line.
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quantumboy
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12/06/2009 |
Medium
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Medium
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Tolerable
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| Yes, Dark Star is as unique as everyone says it is. Think Stonehaven with ketchup. And maybe a little Irish Flake thrown in for good measure. My tin is date stamped 2006.
It's a coal black flake not unlike Stonehaven in appearance. First time I tried it, I tried rubbing it, but it doesn't really want to cooperate with such treatment - the flakes just broke up into small chunks. So I started cube cutting(a very fine cut with the small scissors on my Leatherman) and gravity feeding (my method for almost any flake anymore) and it burns perfectly from the very first light. A lot of people complain about lighting this stuff and keeping it lit, but the cube cut-gravity feed method works great for me with virtually any difficult flake.
I made the mistake today of working in the yard with a pipeful of this in my jaw. Not a good idea, since I can't concentrate on the pipe when I'm hanging Christmas lights. I unconsciously puff too hard and it gets bitter like Irish Flake seems to be all the time for me. This tobacco needs to be treated like a fine Virginia - slow and easy, sipping and savoring. When I pay attention to it, it comes alive.
On sipping, the VA sweetness is very forward in the flavor, while the Carolina (I think just another name for Burley - please correct me if I'm wrong) and dark stoving provide a smokiness that borders on cigar- or cigarette-like ashiness, but if the temperature is carefully controlled this can be eliminated. Then you're left with just a rich, primal, slightly complex, smoky flavor that simply satisfies.
Dark Star fills a void somewhere between FVF and Irish Flake. It's got enough quality Virginia (which we expect from McClelland) to provide a solid foundation of flavor, and enough whatever else they throw in there to create a diversion from your everyday smoke. I'm going to give it four stars because I like unique, especially when done with such high quality constituents. I certainly hope to buy more for long-term aging.
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Pipe
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11/23/2009 |
Mild to Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| As stated, this stuff is different. Upon opening I didn't know whether to eat it or smoke it. Most likely Beef Jerky, Its very wet. I took 2 large slabs and laid it out on the dashboard of my truck to let it sun-dry for 2 hours. Then I broke it all apart and packed it loosely and used the fine crumbs/dust for the topping. It toasted just right on the first light, Then 1 more light lasted till the end, Not really strong, mild nicotine, Flavors are favorable. Pleasant experience, No bad side effects. I'd buy it again. I recommend a trial, You might just like it. Takes a bit longer to prepare for smoking, but Its good.
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corncobbob
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08/26/2009 |
Mild to Medium
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Very Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant
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| The first time I tried this blend, I experienced many of the same problems that my fellow reviewers have noted. First, it is very finicky to rub out. The tobacco looks like beef jerky and has a very similar grain structure. Secondly, it is very moist and hard to keep lit. Rubbed out, it reminds me more of chewing tobacco than pipe tobacco.
I bought my first tin of this stuff more than a year ago and had no real intention of ever buying it again. But time went on, and like many have also said, there is nothing else like Dark Star on the market.
The second time I bought this tobacco, i decided that there was a simple way of resolving most of the issues involved with it. I took the entire tin of tobacco, and methodically rubbed it out into an old cigar box, spreading it evenly along the bottom. I then let the box sit on the shelf for about two days before transferring the tobacco back to its original tin.
The next day i simply opened up the tin, loaded a bowl of my nice, dry, loose flake, and very much enjoyed the depth and flavors of the stoved Va. Only recommended because it burns much too hot, if i puff constantly for twenty seconds, the bowl becomes too hot to hold and i am forced to set the pipe down.
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Kilmarnock Piper
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08/24/2009 |
Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| For me, not entirely my style, not as much as other McClellands such as Virginia #24 and #27 or Blackwoods Flake. The flake is very dark and compact. I gave my brother, who rolls his own cigarettes and smokes the occasional pipe a tin of this, and it is about his favorite. The flake is mellow and stoved-tasting, too much so for me, but there is no arguing with the quality. I smoke it for a change of pace. There is also a pleasant spice aroma, kind of nutmeggy? Ginger? Hard to say, and probably just a product of the curing. I get a note of dried fruit like figs or dates, but I often get that impression fron this style of tobacco.
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Winter pipe fan
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08/20/2009 |
Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Medium to Full
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| McClelland's Dark Star is in a category of its own in the world of tobacco. Upon opening the tin, I couldn't believe how this tobacco appears. If you told me it was beef jerky, I might have believed you - especially with the tin aroma of vinegar and worchestershire sauce.
I have mixed feelings on Dark Star. First, it is too moist to smoke out of the tin - even though you may think otherwise. Second, it is one of the most finicky of flakes to rub out. One has to take delight in having to really work a bit to get this stuff in smoking form. I preferred to fully rub out Dark Star rather than to fold it into the bowl. I use the term "rub" with this tobacco, but you have to physically break it up almost like one would snap twigs. Third, Dark Star is touchy at staying lit. It will take a few matches to get it going consistently, but eventually, it finally does stay lit. Fourth, if you smoke it too fast, it will heat up your pipe to levels you want to avoid.
Now, with all of that said, it is an intriguing smoke. If you take it real slow and just meditate on the flavor, a number of flavors will unfold, the most dominant being dark chocolate and smoke. The smoky taste may overwhelm some but I can guarantee after a full bowl of smoking Dark Star, one's mouth does taste like an ash tray - so much so, you will need a smoky scotch on the rocks to tame the smoke of Dark Star. Fortunately, the nicotine level is low, so the depth of this tobacco can be enjoyed. There is no hint of tongue bite on the positive side.
So, do I like Dark Star? Hard to say - especially when I have Frog Morton to compare it to. When I make the comparison, the ease and softness of the Frog is much more appealing. In conclusion, I'll repeat what the salesman at my tobacconist said about Dark Star: "it's different than anything else on the market and one should try it at least once". Will I smoke it again? Sure, but in a smaller bowl after it has a chance also to age a bit. This one is somewhat recommended.
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pufdragn63
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08/12/2009 |
Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Dark Star has become one of my favourites, but it's a finicky tobacco that needs a bit of preparation before it's ready to smoke. It has a higher moisture content than most flakes and needs quite a bit of drying. My preference is to rub it out and leave it for a few hours on a piece of A4 paper on my desk before I'm likely to use it. Packing a pipeful the night before also helps.
Dark Star needs a few relights while you're smoking, but in between those relights, what a wealth of flavours! Sweet, Spicy and Smoky. With a few hours drying beforehand, and slow and gentle puffing, I've never experienced tongue bite.
I've heard many McClelland blends described as having a tin aroma like ketchup, but I personally find it closer to the English "HP Sauce."
Dark Star not only has that distinctive McClelland tin aroma, but for the first half of the bowl you can actually taste it in the background. If you're like me and love the McClelland aroma, this makes for a delicious smoke.
Further down the bowl, new flavours come through. In some places it's almost like Latakia, in others - particularly in the bottom 1/3 of the bowl - it's vaguely like licorice or aniseed.
I reckon it's beaut.
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Demetri
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06/29/2009 |
Medium
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Pleasant
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| I picked up a tin of this last week on a lark...something for my sweet tooth (rather than 1Q). This is candy! I've tried three bowls thus far (finally deciding that my tobacconist's recommendation of just rolling the stuff up and jamming it into the pipe is the best way to go). Impressions: 1) This is tobacco hashish. 2) After three smokes I finally identified the heavy cinnamon flavor - so much so that it recalls Atomic Fireball candy or even those little Red Hot Devils we used to get. 3) Spicy.
All said, not steady fare but some fun stuff. This tin should last me years.
Updated: After a couple of months of fooling with this as a rolled plug in the bowl I fully rubbed out the remaining 3/4 of my tin. The result was startling. The candy-like cinnamon / Atomic Fireball flavor simply disappeared, replaced with an entirely different experience. Smoked with this preparation it is more like MacBaren Plumcake (but better). Still a novelty smoke for me, however.
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Pipemanuk
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06/29/2009 |
Mild to Medium
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| Love this stuff.
I fill a pipe or two with folded flakes and then leave them overnight and smoke them the following evening and thsu I never have problems with the burn at all.
Many have accurately described the rich sweetness of the blend; I do not think there's anything else that approaches it by a mile. And I love the tin scent too...wonderful!
I have one quibble and it's this that drops it a star...I have a tin of DS from 2007 open and a jar of 2035 that I stored away also in 2007. I cannot tell any difference, in the look, the smell or the smoke. So while I hold onto my precious tins of Barry Levin DS from the 1990's and the few more recent tins, what I buy now to store is 2035.
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DK
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06/09/2009 |
Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| This stuff pisses me off. It's a wonderful tasting smoke... when you can get it to hold a light for longer than 2 minutes, which is rare. I tried drying it to almost tinder, various methods of loading and everything else I could think of and it's just too much of a pain. A tobacco that won't stay lit (much like Rattray's Black Virginia) but that tastes great screams to become a blender. I'll have to experiment with the remainder of this. On its own, it's not worth the effort, simply because no amount of effort makes much of a difference. Four stars for flavor, zero stars for smoke-ability.
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05/27/2009 |
Medium
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| This is my first review, never having had the confidence to do so before, so it'll likely be a short one.
to start with I'm predominantly an English and Balkan smoker, so that's where I'm coming from. That said, I knew I needed to overcome my fear of being bitten by VA's, and to be honest the tin design sold this to me. I am a simple soul.
On opening the tin I was hit predominantly by the smell of uncooked Christmas cake, a rich plummy odour. The ketchup smell was also there but expected, and I know it has no bearing on the smoke whatsoever. The flakes themselves were dark, rich, and had a rubbery feel, moist as they were. Being fairly new at contemplating the tobacco itself, rather than the pipe I smoke it in, I was surprised not to see any trace of bright colours, something I found reassuring as a man with VA phobia.
I know that flakes can be a problem, and I prefer dryer baccy, so I gave it 30 minutes before rubbing out and packing a small Kaywoodie Zulu fairly solidly. I then sprinkled some of the "dust" on top as kindling.
I light using the "5,3,1" method, ensuring a deep overall burn, and settled down with some trepidation, praying my tongue would survive this pure Virginia experience.
It did.
Not only that, but I was rewarded with a long, cool smoke, free of any bite. I put this down to the triple ageing and stoving. As always the second half of the bowl produced the most satisfying flavours. The smoke is white and billowy, and unlike many other reviewers I had no trouble keeping it lit, mainly I think due to frequent and gentle tamping, and that good initial light.
This is a great introduction for a new VA smoker, which surprises me as it has the feel of a "high end" tobacco, which I would have initially imagined would be fairly temperamental, as most pedigrees are. I am pleased to say this has been an outstanding introduction for me to the world of VAs, and has given me the confidence to approach VAs as a regular part of my smoking experiences. Highly, highly recommended.
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Xeneize
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05/25/2009 |
Medium
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Very Mild
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Very Mild
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Tolerable
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| I usually enjoy the famous vinegar/ketchup casing on McClelland's Virginias. Blackwoods Flake, 2015 and a few Christmas Cheers are among my favorite tobaccos. That doesn't apply to Dark Star, mostly because its mild taste is overcome by the vinegar casing. You can appreciate the quality of this tobacco a few months after cracking a tin open, once the flavoring is partly washed away, but packing it and keeping it lit is annoying enough to bother with a long wait.
I still have a couple of tins that I'll age for a couple of years to see if it gets any better, but the heavy stoving doesn't make me think so.
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