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Balkan Sasieni
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| Tin Description: |
Rich Oriental tobaccos from Macedonia combined with Latakia & the finest Virginias create this one of a kind mixture. |
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Virginia
Latakia
Oriental
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Ribbon |
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Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Medium to Full
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Tolerable
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Recommended
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Dietl
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01/31/2010 |
Medium
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Medium
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Tolerable
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| I looked over this blend for years as I had the impression from some of the reviews here that this was just a poor imitation Balkan Sobranie. I wish that I hadn't avoided it. I'll start off by saying that I'm an English blend fan who usually smokes Squadron Leader, Penzance, SG Skiff and occasionally Frog Morten when I want something really light. I also enjoy some of the Virginias such as Blackwoods Flake for a change of pace.
While in a local B&M, I wanted to provide a sale, so bought a can that he had collecting dust on the shelf. I found this to be a very satisfying tobacco for my tastes. It has a nice medium flavor without the peppery flavor of the Skiff and burns very, very cleanly. I took my pipe and the can of Sasieni on a motorcycle ride yesterday and had a nice smoke on the side of a local river. I only had to relight once and found that it burned to a nice clean white ash. The flavor was delightful all the way to the bottom of the bowl, which I can't say for some other English tobaccos that I smoke. I can highly recommend this to anyone looking for a regular English.
I never smoked Balkan Sobranie, so I don't have its ghost lurking in my memory. In some respects I guess I'm glad that I don't as I can enjoy blends like this without comparing it to a legend. In my book this one is a fine tobacco blend.
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ItarPeyo
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01/22/2010 |
Medium
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Medium to Full
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Strong
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| Very good english/balkan blend. It may lack some finesse, but for the price it deserves 4 stars.
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Tom Bombadill
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01/17/2010 |
Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| This is one of the best English blends I've had the pleasure to smoke. In a word, the mix is just really smooth. The latakia is tasty and pronounced throughout the entire bowl, but not overpowering. Very nice smooth undertone of the Orientals right to the end. The latakias and orientals stay balanced for the whole smoke. This is not one of those strong-latakia mixes. It's relaxing and mellow. Similar to Old Dublin and several fine balkans I've enjoyed from tobacco shops.
Four stars.
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jazzmoose
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01/16/2010 |
Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Tolerable
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| This just may be the perfect "daily smoke".
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CaptainEnormous
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01/07/2010 |
Medium
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Medium
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Tolerable to Strong
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| This blend is priced somewhere in between the premium brands (GLP, Solani, etc) and the bulk imitations. And it tastes like it.
This is a fine tobacco, heavy on the Latakia but nuanced and interesting. I'm a fan, particularly in the second half of the smoke when things meld a bit. At first it's just Latakia and some vague Oriental in there to temper. . .but later the Virginia sweetness develops wonderfully. Still, there's flavor here that's slightly off. Something murky and a little soapy. Perhaps a product of less expensive ingredients?
As earlier reviews note: This is cut finely, packs well, burns cool down to fine, white ash. And those characteristics are really what commend this blend. To me this is an English/Balkan/Oriental standard. It's a pleasure to smoke and is certainly one I'll turn to now and again.
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Rodrigo de Xerez
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01/07/2010 |
Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Medium
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Tolerable
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| Well, Balkan Sasieni is a tobacco I do like. It has a solid and sweet Virginia base, good spicy Orientals and, of course, very noticeable Cyprian Latakia –smokey and leathery-. In some big bowls it can be a little bit harsh at the end, but nothing especially aggresive.
I’ve read it is produced by same producer as Paul Olsen MOB Balkan (P.Stokkebye, in Denmark), and some think it is the same mixture, but I find this one richer, fuller, more creamy and less artificial.
Perhaps it is in the borderline between a Balkan and an English Mixture. I just think it can be recommended for those in search of a good mix of Latakia, Virginia and Orientals. And at a very reasonable price.
RdX score (tasted in 10 different pipes): 90.10
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Porch Smoke
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12/16/2009 |
Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Tolerable
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| I have never smoked the Balkan Sobranie which seems to be adored by those who have smoked it. However, I love a good English or Balkan blend and was somewhat unenthused by this smoke. Too its credit, it smokes perfectly, clearly possesses high quality leaves, and is perfectly balanced almost too a fault. The orientals seem to dominate more in sweetness than spice and the latakia does poke its head out enough to keep one interested. What was missing was the full character of virginia leaves needed to round out a blend of this genre. Coming in a somewhat dry ribbon cut, this blend is easy too pack and tends to be better packed on the tighter/fuller side. Does better in smaller rather than larger pipes. The flavors detected range from salt and pepper to buttery sweet with the smoky campfire quality of latakia coming out mostly in the room note than taste. Can't give it three stars as I was quick to lose interest about halfway through the tin. Recommended for those seeking a VERY mild english or introduction to Balkans.
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Mr.Dark
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11/11/2009 |
Medium to Strong
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None detected
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Medium to Full
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Tolerable
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| Unfortunately I've never had sobranie, so I cant make a comparison between the two (which seems to be the vogue thing to do). That aside, it seems (after just one tin) to be a fairly well balanced Balkan, with just a bit to much Latakia for my personal taste. Otherwise, no bite and no overt unpleasantness.
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Dr. Scott
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10/15/2009 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium
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| This is the blend that turned me off Latakias, perhaps forever. And the "orientals" give it a flowery taste. Even had I liked this blend, my wife would have forbidden it due to the horrible odor.
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Kilmarnock Piper
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10/12/2009 |
Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| I prefer Englishes and Balkans when they are aged, so my tin should last a while. That said, it seems to me to be a fine example of the style, and is reasonably priced. It bites my mouth more than some blends, but that is probably just an issue of personal "chemistry." It is a bit boring when compared to Dunhill London Mixture or Durbar (new versions), or to some Ebay-aquired aged English tins such as Four Monks and Black Knight (both by Lane).
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mitchb
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08/06/2009 |
Mild to Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Tolerable
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| I used top smoke the Balkan Sobranie for years before it became discontinued. Many swear this tobacco is not the same as the original Sobranie. It is not the same but that said I still lose myself in the smoke when smoking this tobacco. I don't remember the Sobranie being that much better. I enjoy the Balkan Saseini as if the Sobrani was not the yardstick to measure the Saseini but the Saseini is delicious on it's own right.I discovered Penzance and although it is delicious I would stock the Saseini but will only stock 20 tins Penzance. It is hard to find good pipe tobacco in Vancouver Canada.I woud recommend this blend to anyone. It is my favorite this far. I tried MCcellands 2030 mixture which was good but the Bill Baily's Balkan Blend tastes a bit dull for me.The Penzane Bulk was enjoyed but the Penzance in Tin is worth writing another review. I prefer the Saseini though. UPDATE 12/15/09 I still enjoy this blend the most and find I do not tire of it. I have Penzance in tins which are aging and I have a half full tin I occasionally smoke but for my alltime blend I find the Balkan Saseini is my brand.I can smoke it and I can chew it which I do not do . Point is this tobacco works for me in all conditions. If a smoke is wet I still enjoy this tobacco. I love the stuff. It gratifies me more than the Sobranie did when I smoked it but I smoke only a few bowls per day now. I find the less I smoke the more I savour and I find myself savoring this tobacco three times a day.
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Alguhan
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08/04/2009 |
Medium
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Medium
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Tolerable
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| My experience and notes about this tobacco dates to my days in which I was having emotions when smelling the latakias. Nowadays this blend still catches my attention.
The latakia content of this blend is very well balanced. It is not hiding the high quality virginia and oriental addition. Beside the nice flavors of virginia and orientals you are having the irresistable taste and deep coolness of the latakia.
If you are a fan of balkan blends this will be a unforgetable experience for you. If you are not, well, it worths to have it in your "tasted tobaccos" list. A real Balkan..
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Nameshy
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07/30/2009 |
Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Tolerable to Strong
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| Since Balkan Sasieni can hardly be mentioned without Balkan Sobranie immediately being brought up, it's hard not to follow this well-worn path.
In the late 1990s when the ever-valiant Greg Pease took a blind taste test between a Sobranie that had reached the end of its road and an upstart Sasieni and misidentified them, I was making my own non-blind comparisons.
Sobranie white had been my continuous everyday favorite since the late 1950s and my tests ended with a sense of relief. My transition from 200g cans of Sobranie to 200g cans of Sasieni was a very smooth one, although I soon discovered that the 50g pouches didn't always preserve the quality. On the other hand, the Sasieni bulk turned out to be very good.
After the recent mysterious delays in shipments my current order arrived reeking of cherry with a taste to match, and burned hot. When I returned it the dealer wrote that they checked it out and it seemed to them that it was consistent with previous shipments and hasn't changed. He added that since they had no other complaints he believed this was an isolated incident.
I give four stars to Balkan Sasieni for what it has been and for what I hope it will continue to be - and also hope that there's not something rotten in Denmark.
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DK
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07/28/2009 |
Mild to Medium
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None detected
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| The mind is known to play tricks, even when you work hard to keep it from doing so. I told myself over and over that this only *looked* like Balkan Sobranie on the tin, but wouldn't taste like it. That was ok with me, as I was never a big fan of Sobranie White anyway, but I don't recall exactly why not.
This is a decent balkan blend - no glaring faults, but nothing to write home about. It should please the middle of the road crowd who like a blend that tastes like a balkan without all the heavy spiciness of the stronger ones. "Early Morning" pipers should be able to step into this one without too much fuss. As for me, when I want a latakia blend, this won't be the one I reach for but I wouldn't throw away a free tin, either.
Did the fact that the tin makes this look like Balkan Sobranie have any influence on my tastebuds. Probably. Hard to escape biases. Too bad... but I don't think this one would have worked for me anyway.
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Percy Dovetussel
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07/25/2009 |
Medium
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Very Mild
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Medium
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Tolerable
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| I bought this brand in expectation of revisiting the pleasures of Balkan Sobranie. However, this smoking experience proved to be not quite the same. The glory of the Balkan pugnent aroma is not quite there. Although the can and component make up of the blend reminds you of the Sobranie at every turn save for the drier nature of the tobacco when compared to the can of the mixture as it was in the old days. I suppose we have to be satisfied with substitution.
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viscfab
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07/23/2009 |
Mild to Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Medium
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Tolerable
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| I had the opportunity to appreciate a pouch of this blend 7 years ago and I thought of it as a good medium strenght English Blend. I preffer blends with Syrian Latakia rather than Cyprus Latakia, my opinion i that the tastes are less rustic and with a bit more overtones. This is a good blend though, but there are other better blends out there as Penzance and Mac Barens HH Syrian Vintag blend.
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cmhpipesmoker
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07/21/2009 |
Medium
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Medium
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Tolerable
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| This may have been another blend I went into with expectations higher than what they should have been. I so wanted to really like this tobacco, give it a four stars and add it to my limited rotation but I just found it to be mildly impressive. It's a medium heavy smoke, particularly as it ages, but I just didn't find that uniqueness I've found in other tobaccos. I'm finding that I'm drawn to heavier Balkan and English blends but also strive to find some character in them too. Unfortunately, BS just didn't have it for me. Asteroidhunter, below, states he prefers this over Bill Bailey's Balkan Blend. I'm just the opposite, I prefer BBBB over this. It definitely rates a three star rating but I'll keep looking to find another Balkan that gives that WOW! appeal. With the reviews I've read, I'm sure I'll have to move to the Pease blends if only I can find them at a reasonable price. If I can come across another tin of this locally, I may pick it up and let it cellar for a while before trying again. Maybe a little extra latakia added to it may make a blend that appeals to me a bit more.
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Xeneize
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07/11/2009 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium to Full
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Tolerable
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| Some people compares this tobacco to BSOM. Although they share some characteristics, they are quite different. Compton's Macedonian Mixture is a bit closer, and maybe Charing Cross too, but they are all excellent tobaccos on their own right. Out of these, Sasieni is the mildest and mellowest, so it should be the choice for those who love Balkans but are often overwhelmed by the taste.
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BrantlyMedders
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07/06/2009 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium
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Tolerable
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| This was my first foray into English/Balkan tobaccos, having begun my pipe-smoking career with American style aromatics (like many other people I am sure). When I first began smoking it, I thought I was onto something really worthwhile. However, after finishing the tin and trying several other Balkan blends in circulation, I realized Balkan Sasieni was only mediocre.
There's nothing especially bad about it, but there is nothing extraordinary either. Unless I do a major turn-about, I doubt I will ever buy another tin.
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asteroidhunter
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07/02/2009 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium
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Tolerable
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| I prefer this blend over any of the other Balkans I've tried including Bill Bailey's blend.
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sounds7
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04/06/2009 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium to Strong
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| First the origin and blender of this tobacco is Peter Stokkebye in the USA specifically Charlotte NC http://www.peterstokkebye.com/pipe_tob.htm
Secondly concerning the description of leaf contained: the Latakia used here is from Northern Cypress and it uses Macedonian leaf for oriental. No specific Virginia types are mentioned. by comparison The original Balkan Sobrane used Syrian Latakia and Yenendje and red ribbon Virginia with some dark leaf virginia
The flavor of Balkan Sasieni is decent. It is a good tobacco but it is nothing like Sobranie because the tobaccos used in its creation are very different than the original Sobranie.
Perhaps it should be judged simply on its own merits and not any comparisons to past blends based off of psychology created by name and packaging likenesses. Lets face it, They are using those likenesses to get you to buy the tobacco and thats it. I could list a number of Balkans that are closer to sobranie than this mixture. Compton's Macedonia is one but even it is not really close to Balkan Sobranie. Until someone blends with Syrian Latakia, red Virginias, Yenendje and other orientals in the right proportions, there will be no Sobranie substitutes
3 stars as a Balkan/English blend 1 star as a Sobranie knockoff. That averages out to a 2 star rating
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DaveS
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04/02/2009 |
Medium to Strong
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Extremely Mild
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Medium to Full
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Tolerable
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| A good tobacco, but in my opinion there are much better balkan/english blends to be had. i.e. Westminster, Abington, Larrys Blend, and Penzance.
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Peter Zorg
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03/17/2009 |
Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| No need to compare Balkan Sasieni to other existing or past balkans. This tobacco is just great. I happened to have finished a 2 oz tin so quickly that I had to rush (too late) to order some more. This tobacco is not too mild, really well balanced. The smoky taste is just OK for me. It is in my top five (which is currently, with no order: Spilman, 965, Sasieni, Penzance, Escudo). I would like to find a better balkan, but.... I really envy those lucky guys who still have some Sobranie on hand !
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Country Gentleman
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02/18/2009 |
Mild to Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Cedar and mesquite. Smoked brisket without any sauce. A consistent campfire smoke that remains the same from bowl to bowl. I can understand why some like it - I also understand why some would expect something more.
I think it's ok. Between 2 and 3 stars right now. I might buy another tin.
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01/26/2009 |
Medium
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Medium to Full
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Tolerable to Strong
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| My first Balkan experience and i greatly enjoyed it.. this is a very nice dose of latakia and oriental as i expected with a nice light virginia.. very nice as an after dinner treat.. very woodsy and natural tasting.. as others have noticed this one changes a lot as it is smoked.. i notice a substantial increase in the latakia in the middle of the bowl.. but a strange sweet creaminess comes out in the end.. spicy throughout, very tasty.. i am tempted to buy more and see if a little age will improve this even more.. i really enjoyed it..
short edit.... i am picking up more on the orientals midbowl now.. but i am also noticing that this can be very difficult at times to smoke.. if you smoke it even a little bit fast the latakia/oriental can get pretty sour - which might explain a lot of negative feedback.. i still like it a lot - but i can see why some people might not.
another edit.. I just have to up this to 4 stars.. over time I just like this stuff more and more. I find it as pleasant as my black mallory which is saying a lot because that is another very nice blend.
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damtender
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01/21/2009 |
Medium to Strong
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Very Mild
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Medium to Full
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Pleasant
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| I bought a pound of this in 2006. Smoked a number of bowls in different pipes and found it to be both harsh and strong. Set the rest aside in a ball jar and just recently tried it again. It had certainly improved! Of course, my tastes could have changed in the last couple years but more likely it is the tobac that has aged well. I like it enough to buy some more and let it sit a little while. Aged, it's a good Balkan at a good price.
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RMBittner
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01/21/2009 |
Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| I'm reviewing Balkan Sasieni's 2008 version, the 50g, tinned blend that is now being produced by Peter Stokkebye.
Balkans are my favorite style of blends. My experience with this blend -- and perhaps others here have been reviewing different versions -- differs somewhat from what other reviewers have noted.
Oriental flavors are forceful and very much present from the very first light. They dominate the first half of the bowl, then they give way -- completely -- to the latakia, which is the dominant flavor for the remainder of the smoke. The Virginias remain always in the background (which is what I expect from them in a Balkan blend).
There is very little time, over the course of a smoke, when the oriental and latakia flavors actually overlap and interact. In a dozen pipefuls -- smoked in a variety of pipes dedicated to Balkan blends -- the results have been identical: First half: Orientals; Second half: latakia. As a result, the two elements never seem able to combine for that indescribable oriental-latakia creaminess that the best Balkans deliver. And while I love latakia, for some reason I don't like what this becomes in the second half of the bowl.
In all of my experience as a pipe smoker of 28 years, I've never before encountered a blend that seemed so decisively divided in character down the bowl. As a result, this is not, in my opinion, the "standard" by which one should judge other Balkans.
In fact, after numerous bowls, I have come to a disheartening yet strong suspicion: That this "new" version of Balkan Sasieni (the tinned blend from Villiger/Stokkebye) actually is relying on oriental FLAVORING rather than actual quantities of high-quality leaf. My theory may be off-base. But the only other blends I've smoked that behaved this way -- that lost their predominating flavor halfway down the bowl and then just got unappealing -- were cheaply made aromatics with added flavorings that burnt off halfway down the bowl. (And flavorings, in lieu of leaf, would also account for the "competitive" pricing that some reviewers have noted.)
Whether I'm right or wrong, I still hope this blend can improve with age, because I stocked up, based on the blend's earlier reputation. For now, I'm going to toss the rest of my tin. I'll wait to see what happens in a couple of years with the other tins.
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SirLoirn
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01/14/2009 |
Medium to Strong
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| Tin: Stokkebye blender, light smoky Latakia scent, light brown and black, supple and seemed to be at an optimal moisture level. Thin medium-lengthed ribbon cut. The flutted paper wrapping remniscent of a Dunhill, in a pancake tin.
Taste-Aroma: Top 1/3: Soft and smooth oriental and Latakia, but no where near the taste-aroma effusion of GLP's Odyssey. Odyssey is full, BS is medium.
Middle: From there, it went downhill, producing a peppery effect, or tongue bite, with an aromatic, raw cardboard taste and aroma.
Consecutive bowls had this diagreeable taste and classic tongue bite.
Nicotine: Medium strong
Room Note: Light, fragrant nutty
Overall: I don't know how one reviewer knows it has propylene glycol(PG) as a humectant but maybe this is the source of the cardboard taste or the tongue bite. It has great potential at the start but develops a poor quality down the bowl, and subsequent. I think it's overpriced. One star.
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Silver Spigot
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01/14/2009 |
Medium to Strong
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| Too much Latakia; this one is bitter and leaves a nasty after-taste. I can't understand why this blend is so popular.
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Thoth
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01/03/2009 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium
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| For me this blend is the standard I judge all Balkan blends.
The main components of this blend; orientals, latakia and virginias; compliment and contrast each on nicely.
The fine ribbon cut packs and lights easily. If you are looking for a strong hit of latakia from this blend, you will be disappointed. While present it plays a supporting role to the oritentals, it is in the background adding a fullness and smoothness to the orientals. In this blend the orientals take front stage. Also the virginias pop up from time to time adding a toasty sweetness.
Smoking this blend puts one in the mind of drinking a fine iIslay scotch, with the smokey spicy flavor and subtle sweetness.
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12/20/2008 |
Medium
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Extra Strong
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Overwhelming
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Tolerable
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| The only reason for writing this review is that my opinion seems so at variance to most others that it may be worth recording. I had a small tin sent over from the states - where it is cheap - not knowing that this stuff was supposed to have something to do with Balkan Sob. which I used to smoke ages ago. I'm talking about the white 50g tin issued by Stokkebye - which I think may not be the same stuff that is reviewed elsewhere on this page. About three puffs into the first bowl I was sure that this stuff was rubbish - the blend has something in it that is SO PEPPERY as to be unsmokeable, and that's not the worst of it. In subsequent smokes in the same pipe you get pepper pepper and more pepper for weeks - no matter what tobacco that you use. I have tried a tiny bit of it added to other tobaccos as a flavouring to spice them up a bit - but still pepper is all you get. If you are going to try this tobacco, then I would strongly advise the use of a pipe that you can chuck out afterward, unless you are prepared to burn the taste away over time. I do not think that this is a poor quality product as such, but the peppery taste is unbearably strong - for me at least - and I am used to all sorts of strong tobaccos. Good luck with this one!
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12/03/2008 |
Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| I have just finished another tin of this delicious smoke. Sasieni is what originally turned me on to Balkans, and I think it was the tin aroma alone that hooked me. It is well balanced and with a proper light, will burn cool and dry.
It's on the mild side for my tastes.
My wife is fond of this one, so I get to smoke it inside.
I'd love to give it four, and it comes close. But it's a stronger three than it is the latter.
Get a tin and enjoy.
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Big bad Jon
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11/14/2008 |
Medium
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Very Mild
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Medium to Full
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Tolerable to Strong
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| I had high expectations of this blend and I can attest to the fact that they were all happily met. The tin note was musty and smoky exactly what I was looking for. The cut was a bit finer that I expected. Not as fine as Smokers Haven 20th Anniversary, but slightly finer that average. This caused the blend to get a bit warm if smoked with much intensity. The tobacco was not very wet so this was not really a problem. I think this blend would be best smoked in a large bowl. Upon lighting the tobacco never required a relight, and produced a delightful white ask. The flavor was assertive and bold, but had a slight sweetness to it. Not as much ad Dunhill aperitif but more than Abingdon. The latakia is well balanced with the Turkish, but is tipped in the favor of Latakia. I really enjoyed this blend and look forward to trying it again real soon.
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11/04/2008 |
Medium to Strong
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Medium
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| This one is a very balkan style blend. Not very similar with balkan sobranie but complex , spicy, exotic, genuine with a little horse dung flavor like the original, just a pinch of soapy or make-up and a little butter-like flavor.....but less that the original, good latakia and very good orientals, just structural virginia.....no Kentucky....no Cavendish....no Perique....., dry taste, not sweet and not harsh.
For very reflexive moments.........oh genuine taste and very good flavor ! Yes, this is good ! This one is my favorit Balkan Blend today. Note : SMOKE IT SLOW !!! if you don't smoke it slow it becomes bit and not pleasant. But if you smoke it slow.....it becomes a wonderfull complex blend with very balkan taste and flavor. ------- PS= similar to the P.Olsen Balkan ? yes, but sasieni is better because genuine. The Olsen blend probably is Balkan sasieni with very lot chemistry. So i prefer the sasieni !!!
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Erinmore
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10/20/2008 |
Medium
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Medium to Strong
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Medium
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10/16/2008 |
Medium
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Extremely Mild (Flat)
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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tabaco
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09/21/2008 |
Medium
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Extremely Mild (Flat)
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Tolerable
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| Well maybe my hopes were too high, with the nice and somewhat Sorbranie looking packaging. I knew that it would be highly unlikely for this to be a replica; however, I thought it would at least be in the ball park.
I did not care for this very much; rather monochromatic and dull. I doubt if there is any Yenidge in this at all. I tried to detect it, alas none came through. I also found this tobacco burned too hot for my liking. There are much better tobaccos out there by G.L. Pease and CAO/DAN and others which cost a few dollars more but deliver much more satisfaction; as far as my palate goes.
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09/10/2008 |
Medium
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Mild to Medium
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| I did not like this but others may. A very light English with absolutely no character. Add McClelland's blending Perique and it can be saved and turned into a decent and serviceable tobacco. But really, why bother? I just happened to have an open tin of the Perique. I would skip this. NOT a BALKAN at all. More like a light English. A lot of better stuff out there.
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09/01/2008 |
Medium to Strong
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| It's been a while since I've smoked this blend. Like many, I looked for it in the past because of the possibility that it might resemble the Balkan Sobranie of yore. Sadly, a perfect match is impossible, due to unavailability of some key ingredients and the arcana of blending techniques. but for some time, I was satisfied with the pouches of this blend that I was able to obtain. The flavor was mildly spicy and the latakia content in the medium range. All of which contributed to a nice blend, but nothing that would be superior to other similar mixtures out there from several other blenders.
My first tin of this blend as distributed by Villiger Stokkebye was something of a surprise. The first thing I noticed was the strength of the blend. More in the Nightcap range than the pouch blends. The latakia content was foremost with the oriental component definitely taking second chair. However, right out of the tin, the burn was excellent and right to the bottom of a tall W.O. Larsen. The flavor was consistent from the top on down: smooth and full bodied. Not an all-day smoke, but something for a quiet, refective time.
This one may find its way into a regular rotation for me.
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07/31/2008 |
Medium
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Very Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Tolerable
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| Smokes easy. Only starting light needed. Great summer blend for these hot days in east Texas. A little bitter upon lighting, but that goes away quick. Always have some on hand. I have 3 pounds cellaring. In 4 months will open and see if 18 months made a difference. It is one blend I can smoke all day long and not worry about. Strong 3.5 star blend.
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Ol'BlueSmoke
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07/10/2008 |
Medium
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Medium
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| Decent blend...not as good as Nightcap. Nice price...6.25 per 50g. For me, who cares if it comes in a pouch. Nicely ribboned and predominantly Dark in color. Found quite a few stems, not pleased with this....poor quality control.
Burned well....but not overly complex to my palate.
This would be one of those blends that you feel blessed to find while at a remote location after forgetting your kit at home. For me this won't be kept as a staple...but I may keep the pouch to dip into at a later point in time.
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06/12/2008 |
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I got a tin of this recently and have smoked it beside Gawith Hoggarth's Balkan Mixture and it doesn't compare to that one. This isn't bad, though, it's just weaker by comparison. A bit cheaper though. Still, I no longer consider this 4 star. A strong 3 instead.
Original Review from 6/23/2007 follows
I ordered some of this from www.Cupojoes.com and got just a couple of ounces to try since I was ordering "Full Virginia Flake" to see what the 4 stars were about. I got this jiffy quick and decided to try it first. The first bowl went pretty uneventful, with just a hint of the fullness here or there. No big deal, I don't place much stock in the first bowl.
The second bowl on the other hand (and every one since then), was awesome. Did I figure out how to pack it or did my taste buds just figure it out? Hmmm. Anyway, I've never had the Balkan Sobranie, but this was great. It started out and I'm thinking, this isn't sweet at all, and I usually like sweet tobacco. There is this clean, refreshing spicy quality to it, scinitillating, rich and smooth. It's a bit of a slow light but stays lit easily once you get it going.
Midway through I'm sure now that I was mistaken, there is some faint sweetness to it, but this is a plus combined with those tantalizing natural flavors (must be the orientals). The clove smell from the pouch must be the latakia that is giving it that taste that is so hard to describe. I like that too, far better than Benjamin Hartwell's Chesdin Mixture. I'm always looking for better stuff and will definitely try some of the other Balkan mixtures that are supposed to be better but in the mean time I'll keep some of this around and it will definitely be in the regular rotation until I find something better.
Incidentally, CupoJoes was a fast shipper and even though I accidentally ordered one that was wrong, they offered to swap for what I wanted (Penzance), if I shipped it back to them. Very decent of them and they will defnitely be getting most of my mail order business.
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05/09/2008 |
Medium
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| For the record: Balkan Sasieni is in NO WAY like the Balkan Sobranie Original Mixture of the 1970s or earlier. That sainted weed contained Yenidje as the oriental component, and it was processed by means lost to antiquity. And more's the pity; that tobacco has never been--nor will it ever be--equalled. I smoked a ton of it, and would do so again if I could.
Balkan Sasieni contains Macedonian leaf...as did Sobranie 759...and there is where the comparison should lie, except there is no way to compare the two. Balkan Sobranie 759 is gone; Balkan Sasieni is available...and it ain't bad, at all. One could do far worse...and I have.
This tobacco has a distinctly Danish character, not an English one. Sobranie House of London pulled out of America when the tobacco lawsuits started, and who can blame them?
Balkan Sasieni is a surprisingly good Latakia/Oriental blend by modern standards. Its nearest competitor is Greg Pease's "Blackpoint," which is no small tribute. Blackpoint is more sophisticated and interesting, but Balkan Sasieni can hold its own.
It is somewhat of a stretch to call this a Balkan blend; the flavors are a bit bright, though stimulating and refreshing. It will likely be a regular in my cold-weather rotation.
A very good smoke for the money!
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03/14/2008 |
Mild
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| This blend is awesome. It's very difficult for me to tell the difference between this blend and the much heralded Balkan Sobranie. In fact I have been smoking BS (The Original Mixture) for the last week and I don't think I would be able to tell the difference between the 2 blends with one noticeable difference - the sweetness of the Virginia's. I can tell I will smoking a lot more of this blend.
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03/01/2008 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium
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Tolerable
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| I've gone through several pounds of this in bulk in the last few years, until recently I've never bought the packaged or tinned version. I've always found it to be a nice medium-taste Balkan. I've now opened a new tin (purchased from Pipes and Cigars) and it seems very similar to the bulk version I've been smoking. This is a fragrant mixture, with the emphasis on the Orientals, the Latakia follows and the VAs stay in the background. To my taste more tangy than sweet. 8 out of 10 stars.
Note: Balkan Supreme, from Stokkebye [same manufacturer], is similar and pleasant.
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01/26/2008 |
Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Tolerable
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| A nicely ribbon cut. Predominately black with brown tobacco mixed in. Very nice leather smell from the pouch. Burns very well as a result of the ribbon cut but gave a bit of a tongue bite. Tangy touch probably from the Macedonian leaf. Agree from the reviews that there are better latakias out there but if one can't find a proper tobacconist, this is readily available and affordable. I would't have this as a regular unless I couldn't get a better latakia. Prefer the fullness of Odessey or the nice leather of 965. Not bad but not outstanding either.
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08/18/2007 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium
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Tolerable to Strong
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| Several reviewers have commented that Peter Stokkebye's "Balkan Supreme" is the same blend as Balakan Sasieni. Well, PS may manufacture both Balkan Sasieni and Balkan Supreme, but the two blends are not identical, in my opinion.
The two blends are similar - no question, but there are both differences in physical appearance and taste between the two blends. To me, Balkan Sasieni is a more elegant and refined blend with less up-front Latakia and it tastes (paradoxically) sweeter and has more tangy "sourness" than Supreme.
It's that unique sourness of Balkan Saseini that I love and Supreme does has some of this, but at a much lower level. I'm probably splitting hairs here, because there is a lot of similarity between the two blends and Supreme is much less expensive, but Balkan Sasieni is the better blend in my opinion (and perhaps, due to its more expensive price, should be!)
And, despite the Danish heritage and PG shared by both blends, Balkan Sasieni is in a class by itself and remains my favorite Balkan. At once sweet, sour, rich, and mild. Balkan Sasieni delivers these attributes uniquely and the Balkan lover is treated to a tremendous smoking experience.
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07/02/2007 |
Medium
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Medium to Full
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| Although it's NOT the famed Balkan Sobranie, it is a close second. Sasieni is a good Balkan blend that should satisfy most smokers looking for that Latakia "euphoria" that so many of us adore. "Smoke 'em if you got 'em boys".
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A. Morley Jaques
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04/30/2007 |
Medium
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| I have never smoked Balkan Sobranie and chances are I never will. As such, I will never fully understand the resentful nostalgia with which it is held by the likes of Ben Rappaport or Daniel Pinkwater, and I do wish that various blending houses would stop trying to make copies of it that they think are going to make them worshiped in the same way. I have no doubt from the packaging and the description on the pouch that this is exactly what Balkan Sasieni was trying to accomplish.
All this aside, Balkan Sasieni is a perfectly respectable mixture and a perfectly ordinary Balkan blend. The base of bright Virginia is of a typically high, strident nature, but in no way diminishes from the flavor experience because there is so little of it. There is a good deal of Latakia which works perfectly well with the Orientals but can become harsh and bitter-sweet if smoked too fast, but a Balkan should never be smoked fast to begin with. The Orientals, which are, after all, what a Balkan should be about, are entirely average and provide exactly the sort of pungent perfume and wood quality that they are supposed to with no amazing surprises of astounding innovations or variations in flavor. Puff slowly and respectfully and you will be in for a full-bodied though entirely amiable smoking experience.
The likes of Greg Pease or Dan Tobacco make some simply amazing Balkans that will knock your socks off and make you want to do nothing but sit and smoke until you can simply smoke no more, Balkan Sobranie of sainted memory may well have done the same thing, but I am nearly past the point of caring. If you have never smoked a Balkan blend and desire the basic essence of what the style is all about, Balkan Sasieni will give you that and nothing more.
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Loboatomy
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03/17/2007 |
Medium to Strong
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| First off, it is important to remember that this is a BALKAN type tobacco, not a traditional english. The emphasis is on the oriental tobaccos, not the virginia or the mindblowing latakia. (I know, I know, Latakia IS a type of oriental leaf). The original Balkan Sobranie had the (Macedonian?) Yenidje leaf as it's oriental component. I have an Albanian friend who instructed his wife to bring me a kilo of some form or another of albanian mountain tobacco on her initial trip to the US (They were rural Tosk from a tobacco producing area), unfortunately she was assessed a tax at the airport entering the US and not understanding that I would have gladly reimbursed her, she let the customs agents keep it--one can only dream of what I may have gotten.I've had the fortune of sampling out of a 30 year old tin of the Original Balkan Sobranie that my father has tucked away, and I can honestly say that the Sasieni, in my opinion, carries the spirit of the old stuff with it, if not it's undefinable richness and body. Pretty damn good for a balkan type blend especially for the price. The pouch I'm smoking out of now is one that I've had tucked away unopened for at least four years and it is rife with the leathery yet creamy, nutty flavor that one expects from a balkan. I've been smoking Stokkebyes Balkan supreme here and there for my Balkan fix and I must say that they are similar enough but the Sasieni seems to have a little more nutty oriental note to it where the Balkan supreme relies more on the resinous overtones of the Latakia. All in all, I think I'll be trying to locate more Sasieni in the near future as I'm getting more of a taste for this type of tobacco these days...
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02/10/2007 |
Medium
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| As a Balkan I find Balkan Sasieni to be a reasonably good one, but not the best of the Balkans. I do smoke a lot of this, I buy it in bulk and keep it in the car for thru the day smokes. To me there is little sweetness from the Virginia. The Oriental is there but it is a light Oriental to me. The Latakia is a very smoky one and adds the usual mustyness to the smoke. I get no bite with this blend. It packs and lights very easy burns down to a powdery dark grey ash. When I could get this in the can I thought the moisture content was perfect, with the bulk, I find the mix to be a little dryer than I like. Again, I find this a good Balkan, an enjoyable smoke that I don't get tired of. For my tastes the better Balkans have more robust Virginias, Orientals, and Syrian Latakia.
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11/25/2006 |
Medium
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| Balkan Sasieni, Balkan Supreme, Bohemian Scandal ... the gravitational pull of the Balkan Sobranie has not diminished. Since Sasieni deliberately invites a comparison with the Original Mixture, it would not be unfair to measure them against each other.
On opening the tin the aroma from Sasieni is only a family resemblance to the Sobranie - the latter being much more comlex and rich. In the bowl both have a somewhat rough beginning but while Sobranie blossoms into a hypnotic, well-rounded smoke, Sasieni remains earth bound and does not deliver on the initial promise of the tin aroma. Both the latakia and the orientals in the Sobranie are superior, producing, in combination, that incense like note. The find the kind of satisfaction that Balkan Sobranie used to provide I now turn to Penzance or Odyssey.
The comparison is based on a Balkan Sasieni tin dated April 2006 and a Balkan Sobranie pouch from about 1993.
On its own merits Balkan Sasieni is an eminently smokable light to middle weight Balkan, but to enjoy it one has to put all thoughts of the Balkan Sobranie away.
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Philo Beddoe
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11/15/2006 |
Medium
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Tolerable
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| I will preface this review by saying that I have never tried the famous tobacco that this is supposed to be a copy of; Balkan Sobranie. However I have had some fine Balkan tobaccos and this doesn't measure up. It is tasty and a little spicy but that's it, I get more flavor from 965. I was expecting a near religious experience, due to the reputation of Sobranie.
I realize that they were not able to acquire exactly all of the tobaccos that were in Sobranie, but if it tasted anywhere near this then I do not see what all the fuss is about. That being said, this is a good tobacco for those wanting a light Balkan and I can see no major fault in it, except that it fails to live up to the reputation of it's predecessor.
For a rich spicy Balkan try Charing Cross by G.L. Pease.
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10/25/2006 |
Mild to Medium
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| I have a Wilmer that is dedicated to this stuff for the time being. While I am a great lover of latakia-- and this stuff has a fair, but not abundant amount-- what really stands out in this blend to me are the Orientals and the Virginias, which seem to meld in such a way to create almost a wassail-like clove-y sweet sour taste that swims in & out during the course of a bowl.
Like a lot of good English/Balkan blends, Balkan Sasieni realls what I love most about Indian/Pakistani cuisine, and that is heavy, rich spicy flavors where at times the ingredients work in unison, but at other times each & every element gently pushes its way to the fore.
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08/24/2006 |
Medium
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| I was attracted to this blend by smelling it in the pipe of another smoker. But it not deliver on its promise. The storied name aside, it's nothing more than an anemic Balkan. The Latakia is faint at best, the Orientals are nothing special and the Virginia is mere filler. If there's a market for mild Balkans -- an oxymoron if ever there was one -- then this might fill that niche. But I can't see any point to buying this when there are so many truly fine Balkans on the market (e.g. Pease's Odyssey).
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06/24/2006 |
Medium
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Medium
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| Since I relapsed into smoking after a 20 year hiatus, I've been looking for a substitute of the vanished Holy Grail of tobaccos, Balkan Sobranie. So far in less than a year I've tried about a dozen "Balkan" style blends from different brands. Somebody mentioned B. Sasieni as the one most closely resembling Balkan Sobranie so I went and got me some.
I don't know if the fact that I got it in bulk has anything to do with its actual quality --it's quite possible that 50g tins are better- however, the weed I got is but the palest shadow of the original Sobranie.
The cut is pathetic; thin short ribbons, almost a shag, that pack unevenly and break into quasi-powder if you rub them loose. Nothing like the even thick flakes of the old BS. The pouch aroma lacks the intoxicating promise of BS; it's flat and unappealing, with a hint of fermentation.
The VA's while good, lack the fullness I had associated with good Balkans. Also, the orientals are timid, albeit giving a sweetish note to the blend that is not unpleasant. The latakias, however, are the most timid variety I've ever tasted and they become almost a whisper. They're there but you have too really pay attention to find them. The variety is almost for sure Ciprus and not Siria, and lacks the great cedar and pine woods aroma that the old BS gave.
The room note is barely tolerable. Thre are lots of "Balkans" that will be well appreciated by non-smokers but Sasieni is not one of them.
About the best recommendation I can give on it is that it lights easily, keeps lit without trouble if you take the trouble to painstakingly separate the ribbons and let the mix aereate for a few hours before packing it again. It usually burns down to the bottom of the pipe with very little dottle or none at all.
If you want a decent BS wannabe, try one of the GLP blends, like Oddyssey or Charing Cross. Another good Balkan blend is SG Perfection, albeit quite different.
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donk93953
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04/11/2006 |
Medium
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| I'm old enough , like many here, too remember the original. This is no where near the taste of the original. It is indeed zesty and I might pick it up if there was nothing else available.....But there are alot of others that fill the void of the ole Sobraine....I'll reach for the Frog, or a Pease.
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jackhackett
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03/30/2006 |
Medium
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| Seems to be a "safe" Balkan to be happily consumed when the price is right and no superior alternatives are available----assuming the quality of production remains consistent (which seems to be the issue with this blend).
A cut that is a little too fine for my taste, a slight nip of the tongue unless handled carefully, and an almost cigarette-like acrid room note could make this a "somewhat recommended" blend. These factors do not by any means outweigh the decent qualities that this product can provide to the Balkan smoker, however, and some may find these qualities actually more in line with their own particular tastes.
Overall a decent product and a significant member of the Balkan family of blends.
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Meerschaum Man
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12/23/2005 |
Medium
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Very Mild
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Medium
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Tolerable
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| It has been years since I've burned the Sobranie, unfortunately. This incarnation has none of the magic that I remember. On this, my first purchase, I chose wisely to obtain a small amount. The contents of the pouch had long since dryed out and required artful resurrection by steam. It's not a bad blend, simply inadequate. Maybe a coarser cut would benefit the smoking experience. To me, it seems an unfinished work - incomplete, where some of the elements left out prove to be the better parts. I think I'll keep my memories without further desecration by this feeble offering.
Meerschaum Man Smoking a no name rusticated bent meer acquired long ago
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Professor
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11/11/2005 |
Mild to Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Tolerable
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| Balkan Sasieni is certainly worth a try, but not worth keeping around. The Virginia weed is not quite the quality that I would like, the Orientals are not as buttery as I prefer, and the Latakia is, well, that is fine actually. It smells wonderful in the pouch, is a bit dry in appearance, and smokes fine apart from some slight harshness and the fact that is it rather light. Balkan Sasieni is difficult to obtain and that is just fine as there are much better Balkan blends out there.
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Collezionista
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09/28/2005 |
Medium to Strong
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| Not much I can add that hasn't already been said about this classic Balkan blend. Some of the above reviewers tend to be put off by its tendency to bite but I would say this bites no more than other tobaccos with similar tobacco content. It has more of a sourness to it than Charing Cross, my favorite in this class, but the Sasieni is so cheap and available that I smoke it quite a bit. At only $5 for a 50g pouch this may be the best tobacco value out there. Solid stuff!
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Lochinvar
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09/06/2005 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium to Full
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Tolerable
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| While obviously not the equal of Sobranie, and not in the the best packaging, this is a serviceable Balkan. The Latakia is smoky and pleasant and the orientals full. While not as good as some of the GLP Balkans, it will still get you through a Balkan fix.
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emmbee
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09/01/2005 |
Extremely Strong
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Very Pleasant
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| WOW! That?s the first word that came to mind when the match grazed a bowl filled with this superlative tobacco. It took less than a second for the spicy orientals to reach my tongue and the explosive peppery aroma to hit the nose. This is an immense, complex Balkan that ranks in the top of its class. Unlike coffee, which usually tastes better in the package than in the cup, Sasieni actually tastes and burns better than the initial pack aroma. As for all the complaints about the Captain Black pouch, though I don?t much care for it either, all I can say is: get over it. It?s about what?s inside the package that counts, and Sasieni contains the best there is. You couldn?t ask for a richer, more satisfying tobacco taste. Anyone savoring a full Balkan blend will find their every need met in Sasieni.
This is a pure tobacco treasure: full, dark, exotic, mysterious, like a beautiful woman on the Orient Express that turns the corner and disappears into a compartment. Sasieni actually gets better as it gets down the bowl, revealing a complexity of nuances, some subtle, others distinct and aggressive. This is the type of excitement I expected from Nightcap. Alas, that blend doesn?t hold a match to this one.
I can?t smoke this all day due to its strength and the fact that if smoked just a little too quickly, can start to burn the tongue. It?s almost a small price to pay for such a luscious, chewy smoke. And it?s a great value, too! I can?t say enough about this one. It will definitely be part of my regular rotation.
Five of five stars
9-1-05 update: i've downgraded. still spicy, exotic, rich stuff, but it's overwhelming and will set your tongue and palate afire. too bad that such a harmonious blend of orientals is just a little too over the top. i still appreciate this blend for what it is, but i can't smoke it very often without serious injury.
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Lancelot Gobbo
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08/14/2005 |
Medium to Strong
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Tolerable
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| I haven't tried a new version of Balkan Sobranie, and bought this because in the early eighties I smoked BS exclusively for a while. This has the same overwhelming smokiness, but tends to be a bit hotter than I recall BS being. An easy smoke, it lights easily and stays lit, with dry grey ash and little dottle left at all. I think I prefer English mixtures to Balkan mixtures now, though. For the latakia lover, a delight.
PS remember the print inside the lid of the old BS tins? "A long cool smoke to calm a troubled world" and all that. Then something about the addition of "rare yenidje leaf".
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sasha
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07/06/2005 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium to Full
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Pleasant
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| I think this tobacco is a good value for the price you pay it, nothing more and nothing less. It's good, that's for sure, but you can find dozens of better blends out there. Nonetheless this can give nice satisfactions to the latakia lovers.
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Spike
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06/30/2005 |
Medium
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Medium to Full
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Tolerable
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| If you are a Latakia lover this is a four star mixture. If you like Latakia in small amounts as in a balanced blend (no more than 15% or so) then I would go with a two and one-half star rating. It does have high quality ingredients though. I have never smoked the vaunted Balkan Sobranie so I have no way to compare the two.
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Paddy
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04/02/2005 |
Medium
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Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| There are essentially two differences between this blend and the Balkan Sobranie of old. First is the Virginia component, and second is the oriental component. You can use the same recipe to make two cakes, but if you use all purpose flour and cocoa rather than cake flour and baker's chocolate, the cakes will be different. In any case this Balkan Sasieni is a pretty good balkan mixture; it just does not resemble the old Balkan Sobranie to any great degree. The the oriental leaf lacks the zest and the distinctive flavor found in the old Sobranie. And the finish is quite cloying which I suspect is due to this particular latakia/oriental combination. I can smoke this tobacco, but I do not care much for the finish.
By the way, I think the new version of Balkan Sobranie is closer to the old version than is the Sasieni. However, it also lacks the oriental element. It is pretty good, though, and I like it better than the Sasieni. Paddy.
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03/15/2005 |
Medium
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| One of my first, and still what I consider one of the bechmarks of Balkan blends. I do not wish to compare to Balkan Sobranie, as the Balkan Sobranie I first began smoking in the early 1990's is known to be considerably different from the Balkan Sobranie of old. Not to mention - Balkan Sobranie is sadly no more, we must move on. I must agree with Farndog's review categorically. I'd like to add a recommedation to all that have experienced excess moisture, bitterness, or flavor lacking issues: Try it in an authentic gourd calabash. If that is not possible for you, I recommend bulk purchase rather than pouch.
My experience gets better as I smoke through my 2 - 4 ounce supply. Balkan Sasieni has a uniqueness as there is a slight floral edge in the taste. It still has the campfire, exotic spice taste, but it's almost as if one is burning a "sweeter" wood in the campfire like hickory, spruce, or cedar. Those who did not enjoy, but still embrace Balkan blends; follow my calabash / bulk advice and see if that changes your review.
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FiveRings
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02/20/2005 |
Medium
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| Extremely pleasant balkan with a good balance of VAs , Latakia and Macedonian leafs. Nutty in taste , mildly complex, yet never boring. Bites a little and as others have noticed matches perfecty with larger sized bowls.
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Counselor
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02/12/2005 |
Medium to Strong
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Extremely Mild
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Tolerable
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| I love the heavenly pouch aroma--Latakia and turkish, smidgeon of sweeter Virginias--with notes of spice and leather. Upon lighting, I taste the Latakia mostly, with the Turkish soon following. The Virginia stays mostly in the background, but coming through at the end of most puffs. This is a moderately complex blend, dominated by a "peaty" quality and a definite tang;I also pick up on the spice and leathery notes at times during the smoke. In a big bowl, I have had the nicotine creep up on me by the end of the smoke, but I still put the strength somewhere bewteen medium and full. I rate it 4 out of 5 stars--not the Grail of my tobacco quest, but my mainstay English/Balkan mixture. As an added bonus, my wife likes the room aroma.
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Tiger
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02/06/2005 |
Medium
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| I enjoy Balkan (or Balkan/English) blends but my take on Balkan Sasieni is about in line with "Pipestud" and "RCUSElder". Balkan Sasieni is a good quality blend, and it's tasty, and has pretty decent lighting/burning properties. It's easy enough to understand many Balkan fans liking this one. It's certainly more hospitable than #965 so I think it should definitely be on the short-list of tobaccos to try for anyone wanting to give Balkans or Balkan/English blends a whirl. For me personally, there are several other blends of this genre that I prefer for various reasons.... but mostly because it seems bland, or maybe "uninteresting", to me, and it can go annoyingly sour. Be advised, too, the Latakia dominates the room note and hangs around a goodly while. Will say Balkan Sasieni seems to do best for me in meerschaums. Cool looking can too.
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Thatcher
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01/19/2005 |
Mild to Medium
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Pleasant
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| A fine mixture, but didn?t really leave me craving for more. Lacks the complexity of other balkans I?ve tried. Strikes me as very Danish in nature; can't quite put my finger on what it is about it. May give it another try in the future, but for now I?ll stick to the Pease balkans and others that are more exciting than Sasieni.
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The Keeper
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12/09/2004 |
Mild to Medium
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Tolerable
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| -- Update 12/2004 --
After about a year, while still a high quality tobacco, it simply doesn't keep my interest for very long. While smoking it I find enjoyment. Afterwards I'm not as enthralled with this as I am with something like Charing Cross.
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If Balkan Sobranie was *half* this good, I can understand why it was a classic mixture.
I find this a light, creamy tasting mix of latakia sweet/smokienes, tangy orientals and mild cigar notes. It has all the flavor complexity of some of Pease's finest, and the quality of Dunhill's tobacco. I've seen it likened to Caravan. I never warmed up to that blend but feel that perhaps Sasieni accomplishes what Carvan doesn't...at least to my taste buds.
Very smooth and well behaved. The only detriment I find with it is that at times I may consider it *too* light in flavor and strength. It is perfect for a humid summer afternoon or cool morning.
It is a leaf I will likely keep around most of the time.
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The Cellarmaster
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12/07/2004 |
Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Tolerable
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| Didn't take much to realize this tobacco was not for me. Everything I would expect from a English blend was there but I thought it all to be a bit flat. Nothing really stood out that would grab my attention. For me this tobacco smoked much warmer than I would have expected from a blend like this. I'll keep the rest around and use it to fill one of my knockaround pipes when I could use a quick nicotein hit. Thats about all it is good for. Overall a tired unsatisfactory smoke, I'll spend my time elsewhere.
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purpleronald
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11/10/2004 |
Medium to Strong
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| My wife hates it; I love it. I recently lit up a bowl of a disgusting 'peppermint' scented aromatic... and my wife said 'Now I like that one!' I almost became teary... It was horrible...and she had the nerve to 'love it'. I have tried in vain to explain to her the natural ecstasy and coziness of smoking Balkan Sasieni...and how it reminds me of a great cigar - a kind of natural charcoal and coffee flavor that fades in and out... It also burns well down to a soft, dry, white ash. Perfection! I love it... Maybe someday I'll find the perfect latakia blend - one that smells like roses and fruit to the world but still tastes and smells like Balkan Sasieni to me. Until that great day...I'll be frequenting the porch and taking a few long walks. It's my favorite!
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Beer
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08/31/2004 |
Medium
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| Ok, so they say they recreated the original formula of Balkan Sobranie. Some even say that this stuff is better than the Sobranie of today (which is universally considered worse than the old one). I must confess I never tried the Sobranie of old, so I can't comment on the first statement. What I CAN say, is that this stuff sucks even in comparison to the Balkan Sobranie that is sold now: it takes little thought to understand that probably Sasieni is the loser of the bunch, and that it is NOT a true recreation of the original recipe. And after all, at such a low price, how can you expect it to be as good as a tobacco so famous for its pricey ingredients? The first 1-2 bowls from a new pouch were decent: not memorable (nice smoky and pungent taste at first, but a somewhat dull and ashy second half of the bowl), but at least with some taste. I am beginning to suspect it was due to the pipes I was using: I had smoked Pirate Kake in them, and that had left a nice strong Latakia taste... Why do I say this? Because all the following bowls went downhill. Now, in almost all my pipes (almost, because in some of them it is slighlty better... but not much) it tastes like a cheap, undistinguished light english mixture, with more orientals than Latakia, and a sort of "cardboard"-like taste. You really can't compare the dull taste of this one with the wave of flavors that Balkan Sobranie offers! I have tried several pipes dedicated to english mixtures, and in none of them Sasieni shined. It packs and burns fine, but the taste and flavor leave MUCH to be desired (while not terrible, mind me). No reason for me to try this one again: aside from Balkan Sobranie, which is still available here and which I keep smoking regularly, there are MANY better tasting Latakia mixtures out there!
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Adguru
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08/08/2004 |
Mild
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Medium to Full
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Tolerable
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| Great latakia, leather like note in the tin. It has the texture of a shag, which I don't really like, but I got used to it here. Gravity filling the bowl and then twisting in an equal amount made for a one light smoke. The tobacco is fairly dry in the tin, much the same as a GL Pease tobacco. To me, it smoked the same from light to the bottom of the bowl; making a fine bright white ash, if that matters to anyone. It is an excellent tobacco. I've never had a bowl of the original Balkin Sobrane, so I don't have that bias to deal with.
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CaptnDan
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08/01/2004 |
Medium
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Medium
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Tolerable
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| A beautifully balanced blend, with a tilt toward the Oriental/Turkish side. Subtly spicy, smoky and complex. A most enjoyable smoke that is always cool and dry.
I found that a wider bowl provided the necessary elbow room for this blend to really show its stuff. I prefer my regular smoke to be a bit bolder than this, but for quality and balance this stuff is right at the top of the heap.
Having sampled some Original Balkan Sobranie, and having smoked this aged Sasieni, I would say that they are close, but Sobranie still gets the nod.
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06/14/2004 |
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Very Full
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Tolerable to Strong
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| In the estimation of many audiophiles, Dennon receivers represent a first rung on the ladder of stereo excellence. The same argument can be made for this blend. Spend a little less for your tobacco, and you find yourself in the company of mass-market aromatic smokers; pay a lot more and you will only get a marginally superior product from a competitor. Sasieni utilized a pouch as a cost-saving measure. Ditch it. Allow Balkan Sasieni to relax a bit in an old tin. I use an empty Dunhill Standard Medium Mixture can--the 100 gram size. To minimize Balkan Sasieni?s tendency to deposit a tarry tooth film, store it in a humidor for several days at 65% humidity to ensure that moisture content is established on the low side. As an added precaution, keep a pipe cleaner handy and begin swabbing when the first gurgle appears. A well-caked briar will aid in your efforts to tame this high-spirited blend. Rub out any amount sufficient to gravity-feed your pipe. Press down firmly. Top with fine ?ignition powder? and set fire to your bowl. After only a few puffs, you will find yourself enveloped in rich, spicy/tart tobacco smoke, which when exhaled through the nose will have the herbaceous piquancy of green onions. Caution: This exercise, if done with too much enthusiasm, will briskly remind you why chopping onions for chili has made grown men cry, ?Oh, my!? Pair Balkan Sasieni with a Stolichnaya Pertsovka vodka martini--very dry, three cocktail onions, please--to compliment the tobacco?s peppery, astringent and slightly sour taste. A distinct benefit derives from this arrangement: If you fail to keep your pipe hermetically clean, vodka is an excellent solvent for cleaning sooty teeth. Buy a bag of Balkan blend, mix a pitcher of martinis (You can?t be too protective of tooth enamel, can you?), and put some background zither music on the stereo, the better to appreciate Balkan Sasieni?s m
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05/24/2004 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium
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Tolerable
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| WOW! This is one great tobacco! I had previously thought that this was just a cheap drugstore knock off of "Balkan Sobraine". Boy was I wrong! The tobacco was a bit moist upon opening, so a day open to dry out is adviseable.It burned cool and the flavor was remarkable.A true all day english.The only caveat is that it may be a bit light for those who favor an ultra strong,latakia laden blend.However,put any prejudices aside and give this one a try.You'll be happy that you did! ****Highest Possible Kudos**** prep
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BriarLaw
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05/11/2004 |
Medium to Strong
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Medium to Full
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Tolerable
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| I love Balkan Saseini. Rich and full-bodied. A classic full English. Lots of smoky Latakia, spicy Orientals and a nice rounding out from the Virginias. Clearly the focus is on the Latakia and Orientals and the Virginia is just there for balance.
The aroma is wonderful (if you like Latakia). Big emphasis on Latakia here.
The cut is excellent. Easy to pack, light and keep lit. Burns to a clean white ash.
If you like English blends, particularly 965 (my no. 1 favorite), then I think you will really enjoy Balkan Sasieni.
Bottom line: This and Dunhill 965 is what Holmes smoked. I don't care what the book says.
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RCUSElder
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03/26/2004 |
Medium to Strong
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| After trying this blend for about a year, I have to say that it is average at best. I found this blend to be unbalanced and rough. It does not have the complexity of Odessey or the beautiful crescendo of flavor of Charing Cross. I have tried it in a variety of pipes with various bowl sizes but that did not seem to affect its character. If you puff a little hard, it will bite. I try this occasionally now, and it is usually because I'm out of Odessey or Charing Cross. When there is better out there why fight with this one? Revision: 03-26-2004 After acquiring a new batch of this blend, I believe the last batches I had were either moldy or just dried out. After trying the new batches, I now realize that this is an excellent blend. Not quite as rich in the orientals as say "Charing Cross", but with more Latakia. This is also very smooth, with nary a toungue-bite. I do not know if maybe the blender changed things, or maybe I did, but I now heartilly recommend this blend and have now purchased bags as well as 200g tins for the cellar (empty drawer in my office, LOL!)Rating 5 out of 5 points. Go get some now!
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Nojoqui
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03/26/2004 |
Medium
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| It's been years since I smoked The Balkan Sobranie Original Mixture. It was a fixture in my household growing up. My dad pooh-poohed it, while my brother smoked the house down with the stuff. My dad would occasionally smoke it, but said it "smelled like burning leaves" when my brother smoked it. I found my niche in Dunhill's "My Mixture 965". However, I really liked, and remember well The Balkan Sobranie Original. I've never smoked the 759, so I offer no comparison to The Balkan Sasieni that this review is all about. It does look, taste, and almost feel like the original. Seems to be a little less consistant in humidity, however. I believe that because it's packed in those awful pouches like drug store tobacco. SHAME!!! The manufacturer needs to get with it and produce 50 gram cans. The first thing I do when buying The Balkan Sasieni is transfer it into a tobacco jar, mix it up, humidify it, then consider smoking it. By doing so, I find a very close simularity to the original Sobranie in all factors. You have to get it out of that pouch!!! You heard me! Do it!!! Enough of that! Anyway, it packs easily (I prefer it in an old Comoy's Billard from the sixties that belonged to my father). It lights easily. I find myself using fewer matches with this tobacco than almost all others. Probably because I transfer it into a jar! Again, do it immediately on opening it! I won't go into all of the comparisons with the original Sobranie blend as far as the nuances and the like. Too many others have done this. There are so many shapes and brands of pipes out there to make such statements for me whould be difficult. Maybe it's that Comoy's Billard for me. That pipe was used most often for Danish, Dutch, and Scottish blends. I had to clean it well. Now, the two are an inseparatable match. No other tobacco touches that pipe. However, let me say that I like this tobacco just as well in a Peterson Emerald Lovat. Another winner. It's your choice, in any case. All in all, I don't think anybody could go wrong with this tobacco unless they were a beginner to English blends. I can only say that for me it rivals my all time favorite, Dunhill's "My Mixture 965". Both leave me with white ash, a disappointment that I've finished that bowl, and a wonderful taste that lingers for hours. Let's hope this stuff doesn't disappear like The Balkan Sobranie. This is another of those Best of the Best tobaccos, as far as I'm concerned. It just needs to be sold in 50 gram tins, not those crappy pouches!!!!
UPDATE: I was given a sample of Peter Stokkebye's "Balkan Supreme" via Guy and Jackie Wallace at Affordable Pipes. This stuff, as far as I can figure, IS "Balkan Sasieni". Should you have a craving, they are there to help you obtain this in bulk.
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02/26/2004 |
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Medium
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| Winter '04: Notes on Sasieni..
I suppose, that as many pipe smokers may have done, I have followed a progression. My first tobaccos were of the Amphora, Sail, Borkum Riff, Middleton's' ilk. Then, after a pause of some years, to the Englishes from Dunhill, Rattray, McClelland and others. A few years ago I had come across the Balkan Sasieni Blend packaged in a 200gram tin. The package art bore strong resemblance to that of the Balkan Sobranie Tinned Cigarettes that I enjoyed in the late sixties, so I had to give it a try.
I find, as with most every tinned tobacco, that it should be allowed to dry a bit before smoking. This tobacco conducts itself as a polished gentleman. Packing is easy, lighting and maintaining the light is a snap. The ash is pale and powdery, rather non-caking, and will readily smoke to the very bottom of the bowl. Relights, after some minutes or some hours are a joy! I don't know how to explain it, other than to say that relights result in bursts of full flavor, which I haven't experienced in any other tobacco.
The first bowl, or the first dozen bowls, held my attention and toyed with my senses! Is it Spicy? Salty? Sweet? Tart? Nutty? Meaty? The fact is that the subtle shifts of flavor within each pipe full are varied but always conveyed with an underlying zest and spice?quite like the Balkan Sobranie (see same).
I realized that I would always like to have Sasieni on hand and had made a habit of picking up a few tins (200g/7oz.) at the local shop. Then panic! The U.S. Distributor, James B. Russell Inc. went out of business. I went without any for a few months until I found a shop in Missouri that had a supply in bulk?.bought it?just under five pounds.
In reading another's review (with regard to current supply status of Sasieni), I emailed Stokkebye, in an attempt to secure future supply of this prized blend. After all, the Balkan Sasieni is "Made In Denmark". I asked Stokkebye if they had this or a similar Balkan Blend. Their response was that they had similar blends that I might like " PS-52 Proper English" and "My Own Blend 7000". They added: "You will see Sasieni back on the market in the spring as well"
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02/24/2004 |
Medium
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| A real english. Good after a big meal. Nice sensation on the throat. Naturally sweet,dry,and cool. It has less latakia than sobranie did. It's also a notch milder than its predecessor. Folks who are accostomed with heavyweight englishes might be dissapointed with this blend due to the lack of throatyness and potency. Fans of mild or medium englishes will like this however. I think this is a good english for the aromatic or burley smoker who is thinking about going to the next level to get started on. It's strength in my opinion is that of a strong burley or kentucky. This blend is comparable with Dunhills mild and medium Standards lying somewhere in between. All in all it is a good blend I just prefer heavier englishes, but Ill smoke this when I don't want the full power punch of 965 or nightcap.
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12/22/2003 |
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| Still one of my regulars, but difficult to find now that the importer has gone out of business. The nice lady at www.tobaccomkt.com tells me that this was actually blended by Peter Stokkebye and that since the importer owned the rights to the name Balkan Sasieni, that Stokkebye is making the same thing sold as a bulk called Balkan Supreme under the Stokkebye label. I have tried it and to the best of my taste it is the same as Balkan Sasieni.
I never smoked the Balkan Sobranie Original Mixture very often when it was available, preferring the so-called Luxury 759 Mixture. I always liked the Original Mixture, but only bought it when I could not get 759 or Crown Achievement.
The Balkan Sasieni is not noticeably different from my memories of the Original Mixture, in fact, it may well be exactly the same as the Sobranie. It has been at least 15 years since I had the Sobranie version.
Balkan Sasieni is a very good Balkan. It is well blended and there are very few stems in the mix. Once it is dried a little, it packs and burns well. It is a strong flavor that will only appeal to latakia lovers.
I wish that the packaging was different. Sobranie went to the vacuum sealed pouches late in its run and these pouches are not as reliable as tins. It is not uncommon for these pouches to lose their seal and ruin the tobacco.
Originally I had rated this 3 out of 4, but I have revised that to 4 stars. I just finished smoking a bowl in a truly huge Ser Jacopo (a 3 hour pipe) and was rewarded with a truly satisfying smoking experience. The flavor builds very nicely to excellent heights of good Balkan taste with no bite, no throat harshness and no tongue burn. While I have a variety of blends in my primary rotation, I will be keeping Balkan Saieni on hand.
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10/16/2003 |
Strong
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Medium
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| 16th-Sep-2003. The Balkan Sasieni,I'm enjoying at the moment,has been aged for 5 Year's.It's the closest tobacco,I have found,to taste like Balkan Sobranie!What Balkan Sasieni taste's like,without any age(I Don't Know) One thing,I'm sure about is this,I'll definitely be buying more.And if it's to fresh,I will cellar it.It lights easy,smoke's superbly & has that same slight saltiness to it,just like the legendary Balkan Sobranie.Plus the superb textured flavour's,if not reushed.Leaves a clean white ash,& smoke's dry. If Balkan Sobranie is rated 10 out of 10.Then this deserves 91/2 out of 10.
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10/16/2003 |
Strong
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| (October, 2003)This is a thin ribbon cut tobacco which is very dark in color, almost solid black. The aroma is that of a typically strong english, very pungent and musty (latakia) with some hints of sweetness (orientals and virginias). This is too moist out of the pouch for my taste, so I always allow it to air out & dry for several hours. It's been so long since I've smoked any Balkan Sobranie that I will not even atempt to compare them. The Sasieni packs easily and after drying out, fires up easily as well. At first, the flavor is almost pure latakia, smooth, nutty and musty. The room note is heavy and strong. After awhile, about a third of the bowl, the orientals and virginias start to kick in and the flavor profile changes from a heavy english to that of a med/heavy balkan. There is an interesting complexity to this blend and you should smoke it slowly but not too slowly, to bring out the array of flavors it offers. As one would expect this tobaccy gets richer and stronger as you smoke the bowl down. By the final third this tobacco becomes a full flavored balkan, spicy, tangy and nutty. Although not a killer, this tobacco also provides a hefty amount of nicotine. 4 1/2 out of 5 Flakes & Highly Recommended!
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09/13/2003 |
Mild to Medium
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| What can I say, I have put off reviewing this for some time just because of the problems with moisture buildup. I can't find that perfect draw rate obviously needed for this blend.
However, I still return to it for the Taste and Aroma. It does have a sour component frome time to time but even this is enjoyable. The creamy spiciness is wonderful.
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09/09/2003 |
Medium
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| I dismissed this blend for quite a while as a pale imitation of a true classic. Besides, how good could it be if it came in a pouch? Guy Wallace of Affordable Pipes sent me a pouch, and it was an eye-opener. The blend is slightly lighter in appearance than the Sobranie, and cut in the same long, fine ribbons. The aroma is similar, but not quite as pungent, probably a different variety of Oriental (Samsoun or Smyrna rather than Yenidje). It packed well into most pipes, group 3 through 5 being best suited for me. It took flame easily, settled down to a reasonable burn rate with little attention. The blend is well balanced, with a solid Virginia base for sweetness and body, plenty of Orientals for nutty spicy taste, and an ample amount of Cyprian Latakia for that smokey flavor and lingering mouth feel. It is not quite as complex as Sobranie, but neither is it monochromatic. There are layers and nuances if smoked slowly. It also works as a complement to activities, providing the "English" experience while busy with other tasks, or while taking a brisk walk. In short, it may not be Sobranie, but it is definitely a decent tobacco blend. I can't decide whether it is a "Balkan" blend or a "Full English", but that's a technicality
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06/18/2003 |
Medium to Strong
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| I?m fairly new to pipe smoking and have much to try. However, I know what I like, and I like Balkan Sasieni.
I started out with the cheap drugstore stuff, and while I found the vanillas were tolerable (and Captain Black Royal, the blue one) I wasn?t really satisfied.
After my father passed away my mom saw my pipes and gave me Dad?s old humidor, which was the gift she had given him on their first anniversary years before I was born. I had stared at the thing my whole life never realizing what it was! I opened it up and noticed a bit of residue, maybe a thimble?s worth inside. I sniffed it? Wow! This had to be the good stuff I instinctively knew existed but didn?t know where to find.
I asked her what it was and she said, ?Balkan-something.? To the Internet I flew, and after a few days of research figured out that it must have been Balkan Sobranie. The closest thing today is supposedly Balkan Sasieni, so I went to Cousin?s Cigar in Cleveland Ohio and bought some.
All I can now say is that I love English blends. I wish I had started there, and maybe more people should. Balkan Sasieni didn?t bite me, and getting bitten was a problem of mine. I eventually tried Dunhill 965 but Balkan Sasieni just plain beats it. I think it smells like leather and barbeque sauce when you sniff the container. Its flavor is more layered, so with each puff you get to the next level of taste. I first noticed nicotine with this blend, something I?d never consciously noted before (it wasn?t overwhelming, just noticeable). This may be because I like Balkan Sasieni so much I actually pack a large pipe full and finish it, not something I often did before. I?m not saying it?s terribly strong, but it seems stronger than the aromatics I?ve tried.
If any fellow young guys are reading this, don?t be scared by anyone who tells you that English blends aren?t for beginners. I wish I would have tried it sooner. My favorite thus far is Balkan Sasieni, which I found gentler and tastier than 965.
You were onto something Dad! If only we would have talked about this?
PS: Don't give my rating for the Room Note too much credit. I only smoke outside, so it's just a guess.
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04/13/2003 |
Mild to Medium
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Mild to Medium
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| I only recently tried Balkan Sasieni because I am not a big fan of Balkan blends and so it wasn't on my immediate "must try" list.
It compares to some extent with Dunhill's Aperitif and 965 in that you will taste the lighter Orientals more than the Latakia. While not as sweet as Aperitif due to a bit more Latakia being in the blend, it is certainly sweeter than 965.
I was able to smoke back to back bowls of Sasieni, which is not usual for me and "English" type blends -- if this is an English. And I thought it burned rather hot if puffed too rapidly.
If you like Oriental, Turkish, Latakia types, here you go. I've certainly had worse.
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03/19/2003 |
Medium
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Medium to Full
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| I think BriarNorth most eloquently says it all. I might add only that comparable to Sobranie, the Sasieni seems a bit more refined and less thick or heavy. There is an airiness/zest to Sasieni that I really enjoy, in the pouch and in the taste, yet the blend has substance. The pouch aroma is soft but full and very pleasant as is the taste. Musty and smoky with a nutty flavor, Sasieni smokes cool and dry. There is a pleasant tang with spice notes here and there throughout the bowl. Very tasty. IMO, FWIW, this is amongst the better English blends around today. Stands tall on its own merits and could be an all-dayer for one who enjoys English/Balkan blends. Works for me.
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03/17/2003 |
Medium
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Medium
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| This is a very well-rounded blend. The latakia is not overwhelming, the orientals provide some spice and the virginias are deliciously sweet and clearly of good quality. These elements play off one another throughout the bowl with no one feature dominating the other. The tobacco packed and lit well, did not bite and smoked clean to a grey ash in a variety of pipes. This is a pleasure to smoke.
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03/10/2003 |
Medium
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| A decent tobacco blend for the price. If you like the flavor produced from a good balkan blend, this tobacco will not disappoint. But if you're trying to make comparisons to Balkan Sobranie...please....this product falls far short. Because Balkan Sobranie is no longer available, your search for a acceptable brand may lead you here. Let me say right up front....this blend does have some attractive qualities. The balkan (oriental) flavor is evident, and it definitely comes through for a very satifying smoke. I personally liked the ribbon cut which makes for an easy pack and light that smokes cleanly right through to the bottom with a minimum of relights. This blend has absolutely no bite....which is another big plus. If you're looking for a respectable "all day" tobacco.....this is one of several good choices.
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03/09/2003 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium
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| I smoked Balkan Sobranie many years ago and remember it to have been a solid, perhaps strong Latakia blend. This is a very fine improvement on that memory. The flavors are still solid but there is a finese that was lacking in its predecessor.
The tobacco has a strong Latakia component right off, which sets the tone for the ensuing smoke. It smokes cool and smooth throughout, with a sharp, nutty twang from the first light.
I find that tobaccos go through stages of appreciation, from first impression, to comparisons with similar blends to the refined judgement of experience over time and many smokings. This is an invariably good smoke.
My first impressions, as stated above was the sharp Latakia which was consistent from the pouch as well as in the pipe.
Compared to others - I have recently smoked several of the Dunhill blends, including 965, Durbar, London Blend and Early Morning Mixture, as well as Frog Morton on the Bayou. The Balkan Sasieni is clearly the purest expression of an English style Latakia blend. These others have their merits, but the Balkan Sasieni does not triffle with subtlty.
Over time - the tobacco is every bit a pleasing each and every time I smoke it.
This is a pleasure to smoke. It wears its stripes clearly on its arm but smokes coolly and comes across with a nice finese.
Enjoy!
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01/05/2003 |
Medium to Strong
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Full
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| I have just smoked a bowl of Balkan Sobranie as well as a bowl of Balkan Sasieni and offer the following comparison. The Balkan Sobranie was bought in 1980, Balkan Sasieni was purchased on 1/4/03. The tin seal on the Sobranie was broken one week ago, the Sasieni was opened on 1/4/03. Both tobaccos are cut equally finely as ribbon. The Sobranie has more dark tobaccos with perhaps 5-10% lighter tobacco. The Sasieni is about 30% lighter tobacco, 70% dark. The most significant difference in the opening aroma. The Sobranie has an inimitable tart-sweet grace note that I have encoutered nowhere else. Could this be due to Yenidje leaf in the Sobranie? This grace note is not detectable in the Sasieni. The first few puffs of the Sasieni are slightly harsher than the Sobranie but with continued puffing both tobaccos are comparably smooth with a bit of tongue bite. This may be due to the Sasieni being less aged in the package than the Sobranie. If I were to rate Sobranie as 10/10, I would then rate Sasieni as 8/10.
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12/29/2002 |
Medium to Strong
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Medium to Full
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Let me begin with the sometime repeated caveat: I have not tried Balkan Sobranie, so this is not a comparison to that esteemed blend.
The tobacco is ribbon cut, with the color of the tobacco being mostly black and some brown. The pouch aroma is musty latakia with a tinge of sweet virginia. I know that there are orientals lurking in the blend, however, I cannot detect them in the pouch aroma.
The tobacco lights easily, with the usual two match light. The flavor is very good. The latakia and virginia make their presence known at the very beginning, whereas the the orientals seem to play in the background, somewhat muted but nonetheless there. The smoke was very enjoyable until near the end of the bowl, where a little bitterness comes through. This has occurred everytime in several different pipes. This is a good tobacco that I recommend. I wonder what the original Sobranie was like!?
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imago
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12/23/2002 |
Medium
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| I never had the pleasure of smoking any of the Balkan Sobranie blends, so I am in no position to make comparisons between those blends and Balkan Sasieni. I can, however, recommend this blend without hesitation.
I've typically favoured Virginia blends with a light casing (not outright aromatics, mind you), but Balkan Sasieni is a real treat indeed. The first time I tried it a long time ago, I didn't care for it at all, but further experience demonstrated that the hype surrounding this blend is well-founded. The aroma and flavour, whilst quite strong compared to what I am accustomed, are enticing. The only problem I have with it is that my tobacconist only sells it in the pouches and not in bulk.
If I had to choose only two blends with which to satisfy myself, this would definitely be one of them!
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10/31/2002 |
Medium
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| It is almost impossible to smoke this without comparing it to Balkan Sobranie. However, I will do my best to review it on its own merits.
Balkan Sasieni is a ribbon cut balkan blend available in 50g packages, 200g tins, and bulk. My sample was bulk. Moisture level was acceptable and it dries readily if left out to air. The blend itself is medium to dark leaf in a ribbon cut that packs easily.
Being an oriental based balkan, the sweetness level is fairly low and the emphasis is on spicy and nutty flavors, as well as the aromas associated with the tobacco, including the substantial latakia content. I found that this had very good smoking characteristics and a complexity that developed nicely in the bottom half of the bowl, particularly after letting sit for a while. The complexity is different than in blends with a higher sugar content, as it is due to the subtler spicy elements rather than the stoving of the VAs in the bowl.
This is a very nice balkan in its own right and makes for an enjoyable smoke when a the palate calls for a drier, rather than sweeter, tobacco.
October 2002
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08/24/2002 |
Medium to Strong
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| It seems that the majority of the reviewers who have tried this blend expected a replica of Balkan Sobranie. Sasieni claims to have recreated the original Balkan mixture, so I suppose it's only natural to compare it to its predecessor.
Unfortunately I have never tried the legendary Sobranie. This may in fact rid me of the biases that have discredited Sasieni as being inferior.
The blend is composed of high quality dark tobacco cut at a fine texture, easy to fill in most pipes and burns well to a fine ash. The flavour is richer in latakia and orientals, which creates a spicy woodsy flavour that I enjoy very much. As with most tobaccos, this one is best enjoyed when smoked slowly.
All in all, an excellent blend with a complexity and sophistication that can be compared to a fine Cuban cigar. Although, the 25 CN $ I paid for the 50 gram pouch is far too much, I would most definitely try it again if encountered at a more reasonable price. 3 stars!
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04/17/2002 |
Mild to Medium
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| This seems a pretty straight forward latakia/oriental english blend. Darker ribbon cut for the most part, with some blackish smaller cut mixed in. Stronger pouch aroma. Packs and lights well. Truly a balkan taste on lighting, with lots of smooth tasting smoke and a nice sweet & sour flavor. I found as it smoked down it became a bit sharper, but the flavor faded a bit, and by the bottom of the bowl I found it bitey. Burns well without too much moisture. Unfortunately, I'm wrting this review after smoking some 6 year old Balkan Sobranie, and I find that the Sasieni, while similar, simply does not have the qualities of the Sobranie. 5.5 of 10. - Kelly
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04/02/2002 |
Medium
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| For me, the sometimes wonderful taste of Balkan Sasieni is not worth its awful sourness and tendency to bite. These days, I smoke Sasieni only as a constituent of the Oscuro blend, created by the Barcelona Pipe Club, which is one- half Sasieni and one-half MacBaren Scottish Mixture. When I'm in the mood for a Balkan, I smoke Greg Pease's Caravan, which is a wonderfully full smoke without Sasieni's problems.
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03/07/2002 |
Mild to Medium
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| This tobacco came as a free sample with my last tobacco order so I figured I had nothing to lose. They sent me enough for about four bowls but two was enough for me, the only good thing I found with this tobacco was the pouch aroma, it had a nice latakia leather smell but after that it was all down hill, in a word ?bland- I could find very little taste or aroma to keep me interested
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07/19/2001 |
Medium
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| I remember smoking the noted Sobranie in the late 1970's. I always found it a little bloated. The Turkish would sit a bit inertly on the latakia, like grey dust on a black cushion.
Sasieni is far brisker; Turkish and latakia interact with much more zest. Nuttiness and smokiness build to a delicious height in the last third of the bowl. This is a more sec experience than Sobranie, and twice as enlivening.
Balkan Sasieni is the best tobacco news I've had in years!
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03/26/2001 |
Medium to Strong
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| There has always been much discussion as to whether Balkan Sasieni was better, worse, or the same as the famed Balkan Sobraine. While it has been some time since I have tried Sobraine, I don't recall it being any finer than the Balkan Sasieni of today. Upon opening the pouch/tin one is greeted with a blend of mostly dark tobacco with some lighter strands mixed in (60%-40%). The aroma is that of a classic English blend - latakia first, orientals second, and if you mix it around the Virginias will appear. Balkan Sasieni is cut in ribbon fairly fine, and will pack into most pipes easily. This tobacco lights pretty easily after a charring light, and stays lit. There is nothing about Balkan Sasieni that sticks out, which, IMO, makes it a great English blend. It is complex, but remains easy to enjoy. The room aroma can be a little strong to those not used to a fuller English blend, and this sneaky devil can sneak up on you in the nicotine department - maybe just me as I load Sasieni up in a huge OomPaul. Balkan Sasieni is a great tobacco in it's own right, no matter if it looks like Sobraine of yore, or not. A solid recommendation.
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03/11/2001 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium
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| Pouch Aroma: Musty Latakia for the most part, along with some sweet Virginia undertones.
Appearance: This tobacco is probably 75% dark brown/black, perhaps 15% medium brown and 10% yellow and pale green, in a short, narrow ribbon cut.
Packing and Lighting: Being in short ribbons, this tobacco packed quite easily in my old Hardcastle "Hallmark" pot and lit up easily with very little crown. The initial flavor was very smoky and rich, but with some initial sharpness and sweet tones that I consider a a warning sign for potential tongue-bite. Still, there was some promise here as I picked up undertones of holiday spice and some of the mustiness of old leather.
Exposition: My main problem is that the initial light-up flavor didn't last - what started out mouth watering and spicy rapidly turned sour and musty. There were still hints of what lay beneath, but I was having trouble picking them out.
OK, fifteen minutes into the bowl and things are a little better - some of the sourness has turned darkly sweet and the mustiness is reduced. There is a wonderful sense of rich, smoked meat that I get from Balkan blends, but it's rather thin in this one...is it the pipe?
The Story: I've hit the halfway point now, and things aren't much better. The sweetness has turned from dark brown sugar to something like cheap sulphured molasses, the spice flavor has faded to a whisper and the latakia just tastes...ashy. I tried dumping the ash, using pipe cleaners, letting it rest for a few minutes, all to no avail.
Denouement: Down at the bottom, the tobacco didn't want to stay lit and the flavor had turned bitter and sharp, both factors conspiring to give me a mild case of tongue bite. Argh! I think I'm going to just dump the rest out.
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trevert
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02/25/2001 |
Medium to Strong
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Not Rated
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| This is supposedly the original version of the above blend, repackaged and re-distributed by the family that created it. "Repackaged" is certainly the word, as the packaging of the two is almost identical. However, the tobacco inside is quite nice, and I found I preferred it to the Sobranie. The flavors are very similar, to my indelicate palate at least, but I found this one to offer that indefinable "more". The flavor was a bit fuller, the taste had a tiny bit more zest. I wouldn't go so far as to say that this is the Taurus SHO to the above comparison, but it at least has a more enticing exhaust burble. It burned smoothly to a fine ash, and while it was equally prone to bite me with that irritating Virginia snap, it offered up enough flavor to make it more worthwhile. I doubt I'll be adding this to my regular rotation any time soon, but it does at least get a better nod than the Sobranie.
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