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Balkan Sasieni
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Balkan Sasieni |
| Blender: |
Peter Stokkebye Tobaksfabrik A/S |
| Tin Description: |
Rich Oriental tobaccos from Macedonia combined with Latakia &
the finest Virginias create this one of a kind mixture. |
| Country of Origin: |
DE |
| Curing Group: |
Air Cured |
| Contents: |
Virginia
Latakia
Oriental
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| Cut: |
Ribbon |
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| Strength: |
Medium
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Extremely Mild
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| Taste: |
Medium
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| Room Note: |
Tolerable
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| Recommendation: |
Recommended
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Country Doc
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08/25/2010 |
Medium
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None detected
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Medium to Full
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| I will put my bias up front - this is my staple tobacco.
I had the great pleasure of smoking Sobranie (and still have a little bit that I guard carefully) - Sasieni is not Sobranie. Not the same thing at all. It lacks the full-on flavor and peculiar, delightful deep bass note that Sobranie has; they are different tobaccos.
To my taste, Sasienie is tangy at the top of the smoke, evolving into a mellow, creamy sweetness in the second half of the bowl, with latakia present throught. Unique and simply lovely, if you have the taste for it.
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Peppino
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08/24/2010 |
Mild to Medium
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None detected
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| Funny how everyone tastes are different. For me this blend gets better half way through the bowl. The flavor gets fuller until sadly it comes to an end in a white ash in every style of pipe!
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Tee-dub
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08/24/2010 |
Medium
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Medium
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| I'd like to echo Marshall Law's observations. I wish I had said them.
It is tasty, and it is interesting.
This mixture is particularly sensitive to temperature, it seems to me. Smoked ccol its flavors are too subdued for what I'd expect of a Balkan; once warmed, it provides a blast of something like salty licorice in a pipe bowl.
Once warmed and running, this is a pitched battle between the Orientals, which are spicy and pungent, and the Latakia. These flavors are often, but not always, experienced harmoniously.
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krg1000
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08/22/2010 |
Medium
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Very Mild
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Finally got some of this blend that I have been wanting to try for quite some time now. I agree with all the other fine reviewers here and say that this is a well crafted blend. PS has really outdone themselves with this blend here. I agree with another reviewer here that Balkan Sasieni reminds me of Frog Morton in some ways, but better. I find this to be in the medium level of nicotine and taste overall. The wife did not complain about it when she was out with me while I was smoking this. So I will give this a pleasant to tolerable setting there on room note. This burns down to a nice fine ash at the bottom of the bowl and produces a good amount of smoke. It also seems to light well and stay lit with no relights for me, just some very occasional tamping. The presentation in the tin is great and the tin smell, for me, in wonderful. The moisture level is right on the mark when popping open the tin. I definitely see me getting more of this to cellar and enjoy over the course of time. I would definitely recommend this blend to all. It may be an acquired taste for the new smokers who are used to aromatics. At this price level, you are paying this much or more for a tin of most aros on the market, so I think it is more than worth it.
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Marshall Law
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08/15/2010 |
Mild to Medium
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Mild
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Medium
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Tolerable
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| This is a very pleasant medium-to-mild Balkan with a significant amount of oriental leaf. While I do feel it to be a high-quality smoke with good flavor and burn characteristics, I agree with the observations of Mr. Servo, below, however, that the overall smoking experience is flawed in the sense that it is a bit too disjointed. Every time I foray into the territory of the Saseini in search of blissful harmony, it starts out slighty rounded, smooth, smokey and savory, with a light dose of well-balanced latakia...yet mid-bowl the latakia begins to sign off too substantially and abruptly, leaving what seems to be an excess of almost lemony, quite tasty virginias to run amock, which endure as the controlling faction for some time, punctuated by stronger and stronger hits of nutty, floral oriental leaf, but not in the sense of a balanced, spicy, brooding balkan. Then, in the bottom third of the bowl, the orientals begin to dominate too significantly, virginia then vaults, and lady latakia leaves the battlefield altogether, causing you to wonder exactly what sort of blend you've just smoked for the entire latter half of the session. It is highly possible that this blend may benefit significantly from some serious cellaring time to pull its standoff-ish participants into a flavorful truce, but as it stands I have not yet found the correct pipe to pull this young, mild mixture together. It is clear that this blend prefers to be smoked quite slowly to keep the orientals calm, and seems to benefit from a smaller-bore chamber. Still, in all, a tasty and noteworthy smoke. Half-star deduction for the disjointed finish, so for now, Two and three quarter stars.
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cwnet
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08/10/2010 |
Medium to Strong
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Medium to Strong
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Medium to Full
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Tolerable
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| It‘s my first tobacco.Latakia is very suitable in this mix.But I feel the strength is not strong enough to me.
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Kashmir
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08/05/2010 |
Medium
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Very Mild
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Balkan Sasieni provides for a very rich and rewarding smoke. The Latakia is strong and present. With the sweet Virginia leaf this would remind me of Frog Morton, but the orientals make it quite different. Sort of an exotic Frog Morton. The Latakia produces a deep sonorous smoke, and "really hits the spot". Although the sweet Virginia and spicy Oriental components take a back seat to the Latakia, their presence is also felt and they blend it just right. I would highly recommend this blend to any lover of Latakia, or to those who wish for a more spicy version of the "frog". Although I never tasted the original Balkan Sasieni or the famous Balkan Sobranie, I have been told by others that this current blend by Peter Stokkeby Tabaksfabrik approximates it to a certain degree. Again, a highly recommended blend and one that I will be sure to stock up upon.
Cheers,
Update August 2010: After going through four tins of this blend, I decided to buy the 16oz. bulk from Cup O Joes. I don't know if its an in-house blend from Cup O Joes, or whether it is from the original blend by Peter Stokkebye Tobaksfabrik A/S. However, I found that this blend, although it approximates the original blend, is missing something. Perhaps the freshness of Latakia? Or more of it? So I decided to do something I have never done. Why not add Captain Black (White) to the Balkan Sasieni, at a 1:1 ratio. An "aromatic balkan" if you will. Although not an aromatic smoker (I prefer English and Balkan blends almost exclusively, with a little take of Pressed Aged Virginias from McClellen or sometimes Escudo in a group 2 Dunhill), I have always had a soft spot for ol' Capn' Black (White) from my early days. Well, I must say that I really like this new "aromatic Balkan" that I created and would recommend it to anyone, who wants the sweetness of Capn' Black (White) but also appreciates the depth of the Virginia and Orientals in Balkan Sasieni. In short, the latter replaces the bland Cavendish and Burleys background of Capn' Black. Go figure...
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Claudius Stradivarius
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07/23/2010 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium
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Tolerable
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| This is an excellent blend. Slighty different than the pouches I smoked in the 90's in that the tobacco cut seems shorter.
Typical Balkan aroma. Delicious alternance between sweet and spicey, this tobacco has a fabulous taste. Some tins, very rarely, will display a bit of a peppery taste sometimes. But overall, it is consistent and a steal for the price.
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KahveDelisi
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06/08/2010 |
Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| it's like someone found good quality latakia for cheap. lots of latakia here, and some spicy turkish which is enough to leave a pleasant tingling on your tongue.. BUT, where's virgina? Either there's little amount of virginia there, or it's very high quality(?) virginia tobacco which is impossible to detect. Whatever it is, I love this one (and that's probably because I don't compare it to anything and evaluate it on its own)
Just one downside; too wet out of tin. Needs couple hours (or more) drying out.
Btw did I say lots of latakia?
Yeah.. lots of latakia ;)
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tpatriarche
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04/09/2010 |
Medium to Strong
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None detected
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| This mixture is strictly for those who like the aromatic "Turkish" varietals - Yenidje, etc. - what used to be called "Egyptian" (although neither term is really geographically accurate), not the typical English Mix with Latakia as the only exotic aromatic. That said, I wanted much more of the "Turkish" aroma than this offered, so I was disappointed.
For those new to the tobacco world, let me mention in passing that properly speaking "aromatic" refers strictly to the natural aroma of the tobacco (after fermentation, smoke-drying, etc.), whereas other aromas (vanilla, chocolate, brandy, etc.) should be called flavouring or casing, as noted on this site in the review sidebar. This distinction has been confused by the manufacturers of popular Cavendish blends labelling their flavoured mixes as "full aromatic" etc.
I have read elsewhere that this blend was produced according to the original Balkan Sobranie formula by some of the original blenders of that famous mix after the name was bought by another company and the blend toned down to a Latakia mix with no exotics. I find this hard to believe; I smoked the original Balkan Sobranie for years, and this is not a patch on it - nothing like the strong character of that blend. The room note of the old original was powerful, distinctive and persistent (you either loved it or hated it), whereas Sasieni has a quite mild room note.
I found this tobacco somewhat harsh, though no worse than most other Balkan blends, with a fair bit of bite. I could detect no artificial casing or flavouring, which in a true Balkan blend is as it should be. The room note is either "pleasant" or "tolerable" depending on personal taste. I only recommend it because blends with the true Yenidje topnote are becoming hard to find.
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gj Michelob
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04/06/2010 |
Medium
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Full
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| So many times I had tried to give up the vile cigarettes for the more noble pipe. I always failed, leaving behind a well balanced and poorly smoked collection of beautiful pipes and hundreds of wasted tins of the widest assortment of tobaccos.
A month ago, however, I picked up a tin of Balkan Sasieni and since can no longer inflict myself the injury of the tasteless cigarettes smoke. I am in love with this blend.
It is perfect, creamy and fragrant, leaving as captivating an aftertaste as it is intriguing throughout each bowl which I smoke down to a thin powder of whitish ash.
This tobacco is easy to appreciate and to smoke, which I can recommend for the novice, as I am. It burns well and smokes consistently, its delicate taste and scent remaining nearly unaltered until the end.
I alternate it with an artificially flavored tobacco (improperly but commonly referred to as "aromatic"), Blue Note, which I will review separately, but which also I find outstanding in its category.
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Tom Servo
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04/03/2010 |
Mild to Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Tolerable
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| A good example of the flavor & aroma of the Balkan style. Maybe not the best example, but not exactly middle-of-the-road either. The tin aroma is rich latakia, maybe a bit subdued, but very nicely balanced with the floral Orientals. However, in the pipe it starts out very nice - tasty, smoky and spicy, rich and smooth. But the flavors start getting confused in the last half of the bowl, and it starts to bite a bit. Plenty of Latakia, balanced nicely. But the whole thing seems to fizzle short of Cloud 9 for me. Very good, but not brilliant. Better and bolder Balkans are out there, if you like the style of this one.
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meanmrmustard
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03/26/2010 |
Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Mild
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Is this the original Balkan Sorbane? Close, but no cigar. That does not mean this is an inferior blend. Quite the contrary, I found this to be a very nice English Oriental, with a bit more of a smoky taste than the original Sorbane. A quality smoke, smooth, rich and not overwhelming. I like it. Is the difference between the Sorbane and Sasieni extreme. No, but I think this one will certainly tie neck and neck with quality of flavor. If they took this one off the market, it too would become the Holy Grail for some.
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Michael
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02/27/2010 |
Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| I'm revisiting my review and bumping this up a notch. The more I've smoked it, the more I like it. I enjoy Balkans and especially those with Turkish tobacco, and Balkan Sasieni delivers the goods. It's also a great value for the money. Add its light finish with no lingering aftertaste and pleasant room note, and you have a winner in my book. It may not be stellar and the Latakia is somewhat subdued, but it's a very good and balanced medium smoke that, to me, is better than perennially-sold-out Squadron Leader.
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htduck
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02/19/2010 |
Mild
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Mild
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Mild
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Please keep in mind I like Orientals the best and I never had the chance to smoke Balkan Sobranie - that said this is a good smoke. My tin was a little moist (what a classy package) and took several lights but still a good clean burn with no bite. Good mouth feel, smooth and mellow. I had never tried Sasieni because I couldn't find it in a local shop and when ordering over the internet I usually spent my mad money on other must have blends. Additionally, as others have noted, the reviews are sort of mixed. I think this tobacco blend has been a bit disadvantaged because of all the comparisons to Sobranie. IMHO if they ever stop making this blend 20 years later smokers will remember this blend fondly as they now do Sobranie. Multiple tins of Balkan Sasieni will join Squadron Leader, Classic Samsun, Tashkent and Spilman Mixture in my tobacco closet to age and improve to enhance my puffing pleasures as the years go by.
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BriarBurner
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02/13/2010 |
Medium
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| Smoking from a 2006 tin of the imported Stokkebye blend. This is a mild Oriental/Latakia blend that despite its tameness delivers a well balanced smoke that is rich & satisfying. Packs well and has no bite.If you like a strong latakia presence, skip this one.Stokkebye surely is a Master Blender IMHO.
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Virginia lover
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02/11/2010 |
Mild to Medium
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Mild
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Tolerable to Strong
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| Not my cup of tea. Weak body and taste, ordinary quality. I mixed the tin with Commonwealth mixture and some Black Cavendish for a decent Latakia mixture.
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Dietl
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01/31/2010 |
Medium
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Medium
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Tolerable
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| I looked over this blend for years as I had the impression from some of the reviews here that this was just a poor imitation Balkan Sobranie. I wish that I hadn't avoided it. I'll start off by saying that I'm an English blend fan who usually smokes Squadron Leader, Penzance, SG Skiff and occasionally Frog Morten when I want something really light. I also enjoy some of the Virginias such as Blackwoods Flake for a change of pace.
While in a local B&M, I wanted to provide a sale, so bought a can that he had collecting dust on the shelf. I found this to be a very satisfying tobacco for my tastes. It has a nice medium flavor without the peppery flavor of the Skiff and burns very, very cleanly. I took my pipe and the can of Sasieni on a motorcycle ride yesterday and had a nice smoke on the side of a local river. I only had to relight once and found that it burned to a nice clean white ash. The flavor was delightful all the way to the bottom of the bowl, which I can't say for some other English tobaccos that I smoke. I can highly recommend this to anyone looking for a regular English.
I never smoked Balkan Sobranie, so I don't have its ghost lurking in my memory. In some respects I guess I'm glad that I don't as I can enjoy blends like this without comparing it to a legend. In my book this one is a fine tobacco blend.
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ItarPeyo
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01/22/2010 |
Medium
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Strong
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| Very good english/balkan blend. It may lack some finesse, but for the price it deserves 4 stars.
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Tom Bombadill
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01/17/2010 |
Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| This is one of the best English blends I've had the pleasure to smoke. In a word, the mix is just really smooth. The latakia is tasty and pronounced throughout the entire bowl, but not overpowering. Very nice smooth undertone of the Orientals right to the end. The latakias and orientals stay balanced for the whole smoke. This is not one of those strong-latakia mixes. It's relaxing and mellow. Similar to Old Dublin and several fine balkans I've enjoyed from tobacco shops.
Four stars.
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