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126: Old Joe Krantz
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Cornell & Diehl |
| Blender: |
Bob Runowski |
| Tin Description: |
Ribbon and coarse cut burleys, perique and red virginia. Shades of brown with the characteristic mustiness of perique. |
| Country of Origin: |
US |
| Curing Group: |
Air Cured |
| Contents: |
Burley
Virginia
Perique
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| Cut: |
Coarse Cut |
| Packaging: |
Bulk |
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Medium to Strong
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Extremely Mild
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Medium to Full
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Tolerable
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| Recommendation: |
Recommended
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William H. Hardy
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05/16/2013 |
Very Strong
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Very Full
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Very Strong
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| This is a tobacco with a serious kick. A lot of Red Virginia, a lot of Perique, and a good bit of Burley. I like a lot of blends that others claim are pretty strong; University Flake, Wessex Burley Slice, Haunted Bookshop, etc. This old codger leaves them all in the dust. Usually, I can't finish a whole bowl in one sitting and have to take a break to finish it. Thankfully, it DGTs quite well and I have no problem coming back to it after the hiccup fits force me to slow it down.
I know that I'm making sound like a bad review, but I don't mean it to be. This is an excellent tobacco from a well-reputed blender and tobacco house. It's certainly not an all-day blend for me, but when I want to have my butt handed to me, this one fits the bill. If you can smoke this stuff with no real problems with the Vitamin N level, you're stouter than me! I would give a solid 3 stars on this one. I'll never have more than one bowl of this a day, however!
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Laserboy
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03/14/2013 |
Medium to Strong
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Extremely Mild
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Medium to Full
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Tolerable
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| Bitterness is the most misunderstood and underappreciated of the basic flavors. In Old Joe Krantz we have an example of its use with utter mastery. When I say that the first flavor impact I get from Old Joe is bitterness, one might recoil from it. But this is the bitter of first class stout or IPA, of dark chocolate, of coffee, of black walnuts. It gets one's attention and holds it! But then it is backed up by the mild sweetness of the Virginia, the nutty burley, and the musky perique. It loads easily (I like mine darn near crunchy dry and then press it tight into the pipe) and burns like a charm. And it carries a notable wallop of nicotine--a small bowl goes a long way. A large bowl should be smoked gently because of the nicotine hit. But I don't think it's ever bitten me. This is a blend compiled with true artistry. I can imagine that it isn't for everybody, but this is the sort of blend about which one can be truly passionate--I sure am!
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radioisotope
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02/21/2013 |
Strong
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None detected
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Very Full
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Tolerable to Strong
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| whitebriar is right everything that needs to be said about OJK has been but I will say I think I found my favorite old bulk standby. I have always ordered 4-8 ounces of bayou night a month but this stuff is quickly becoming a favorite!
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TallPuffO'Burley
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11/28/2012 |
Strong
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Full
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Tolerable
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| This might be my first 2 star awarded to a C & D blend. I really love their tobaccos, but this one just did not do it for me. Probably pushing this rating is how much I enjoyed Back Porch, the blend made by C & D for the Yahoo Pipe Smokers Club that contains the same constituent tobaccos.
The one thing this has over Back Porch is its availability in bulk. I know that Haunted Bookshop and one of the Burley blends (#3 I think) are availablew in bulk and contain Va Bur and Per. I will need to try these out to see if one of them compares to Back Porch, but in a bulk option.
As to this blend specifically, it is strong in Nicotine which is almost to be expected from C & D and is a plus for me. The quality of leaf is good and burning properties are fair, but that is where the positives end for me.
As to the negatives, it takes a lot of concentration to get a good smoke out of it and the good taste is fleeting at least to my tastes. The one ounce I purchased was from the bottom of the bag. I know this because I originally ordered 4 oz, but P&C did not have that much left. To speed my order along I took one ounce and some other tobacco to equal the value, so I received more than an ounce, but it was certainly the bottom of the bag. What does this mean? Well, I don't know, but perhaps the mixture at the bottom did not resemble what would have been on top and maybe I got too much perique or something was out of equilibrium. All this means I may try it again, but only after trying the others referenced above.
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whitebriar
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11/15/2012 |
Medium to Strong
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Very Mild
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Medium to Full
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| everything has been said about 'Old Joe' that need be said--
all i need to add is 'i like it'!!
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juanmedusa
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11/10/2012 |
Strong
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None detected
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Medium to Full
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Tolerable
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| I love this stuff. First tobacco I bought in pounds of bulk. it's a great value and one of the few heavy burley's that can hold my interest. The perique is spicy and present. I smoke this inbetween the pricey stuff.
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Bluefox
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10/04/2012 |
Medium
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Extremely Mild
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Mild to Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| The overall flavor and aroma is good. Unfortunately I am finding out that I do not care for perique. Just a little to spicy for my taste. To each his own though. Im sure some people will really like it judging by the number of spicy blends I have run across. Just not for me.
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dano58
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08/23/2012 |
Strong
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None detected
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Full
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Tolerable
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| I just finished a tin of Old Joe Krantz.. I'm no stranger to nicotine but Old Joe Krantz has quite a right hook and I've been beaten up enough.. that said, I think this is a high quality smoke, and any lover of burley should give it a go. The flavor is full and earthy plus there is absolutely no tongue bite and I'm glad I tried it. But for me, Haunted Bookshop is as strong as I like to go with a good burley.
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Trippwire
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07/28/2012 |
Strong
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Full
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Strong
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| Stout, bitter, sour taste, very full bodied, very decent nicotine. I love this stuff, first time I smoked it was 2 bowls back to back.. I never finished the second one,I had to lie down from nicotine OD.
When puffed slowly it brings out a musty, old timey flavour, sour and bitter but not in a bad way. Fantastic in a cob, I just can't get the same experience in a briar. Does not DGT very well.
This is a keeper for sure, I will be stocking up
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salopst
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05/20/2012 |
Mild to Medium
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None detected
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Medium to Full
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Very Pleasant
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| Somewhere between three and four stars. I cannot decide which, so I'll go with four . I've only 100 g of this under my belt, and the second half of the 2010 tin I had a friend pick up for me from the States was awesome. I was leery at first. To me it didn't smell like pipe tobacco-- all chocolatey and full of caramel, and generally reminiscent of cigars.
I have to credit this tobacco with rounding out early conceptions/impressions of tobacco, which, admittedly are not that nuanced. I have three rough groupings of tobacco hat I really like, and two that I do not.
#1 Orientals-- English, lots of Lat. Where I started, and what I remember my father and his father smoking #2 Sweet Virginias, sometimes flavored with perique or cavendish #3 Burleys, although I admit OJK is my first-- and I don't see any reason to move from that #4 aromatics -- Euch! #5 heavily cased dark navy/rum/twists -- Not quite my thing, but I can see the time and the place for it
Without OJK I could not have been able to make these, albeit crude, distinctions. It seems to me that Burley is the most tobacco-like tobacco, and an excellent place from which to begin to appreciate others.
It is not my favourite by a New York Mile, but I rank it highly. I will be buying much, much more and have dedicated a new pipe to it alone.
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BurleyLegal
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05/14/2012 |
Medium to Strong
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None detected
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Full
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Pleasant
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| Old Joe Krantz is a solid blend of burley and perique that doesn't play around! The flavor is full of honest tobacco goodness, as is the room aroma. The vitamin N is no joke, and is very satisfying almost to a fault for those who are looking for it. All in all OJK is a no nonsense manly smoke that maintains a loyal following for good reason.
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Backwoods Piper
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01/03/2012 |
Strong
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Mild
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Medium to Full
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Pleasant
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| This is an outstanding burly blend. Love the peppery overtone of perique and the sweetness and aroma of the VA. This is in the running with GLP Haddo's Delight for me (another one of my favorites). I would recommend this blend for the more seasoned smokers. Definitely a blend to be puffed gently. Not a good blend for breaking in.
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Mr. Big
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12/28/2011 |
Very Strong
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Medium
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Tolerable
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| Strong and harsh. Can't find the pleasure in this one. Good northern winter tobacco for when you only can stand outside for a few puffs , plenty of Nicotine ! Burley is the main player, some sweetness at a sip but very one dimensional. In the straight VaPerBur category, C&D's " Three Friars" is much smoother and more interesting and P&C's "SumzaBitches" has more Perique and both keep the Burley in the background better than OJK.
I'm with reviewer " DK" from 5/21/09
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longlost00
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11/25/2011 |
Strong
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None detected
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Medium to Full
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Tolerable
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| This is "exorcised bookshop" by my account, as it clears up the shortcomings of its rougher younger brother, mostly with the addition of a slightly nuttier-tasting burley and less-intrusive perique and Viriginia.
No fuss, no muss - smoke this one right out of the tin with no heat or bite. Just make sure you've eaten.
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ap
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11/11/2011 |
Strong
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Medium
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Tolerable
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| Full Burley blend with great Perique spiceness and very light sweet notes from the Virginias. Outstanding
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Kokinhenik
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11/01/2011 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| While smoking this tobacco I concluded that though I do really enjoy a straight Burley, a Burley headliner with condiment amounts of Perique and Virginia, just doesn't work that well for me. I would rather smoke a really good Burley, or a really good VaPer. Having said that OJK was a decent smoke, OJK is a step in the right direction from Haunted Bookshop.
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Struggling.Thinker
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10/09/2011 |
Medium to Strong
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Medium
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Pleasant
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| For a frame of reference, I prefer Burley blends. Virginias are, of course, a wonderful edition and the mustiness and spiciness of Perique all appeal to me. Despite a fair amount of experience with a range of contemporary blends, I find Carter Hall to be one of the most attractive options.
That being said, this was my first experience with OJK. I very much enjoyed this. My Vitamin N needs were satisfied, although I will say that I wasn't absolutely knocked over by it (as I expected from so many of the previous reviews). It was, however, quite satisfying.
Burley is the front runner and the smell is pure tobacco. Occasionally, the taste became cigar-ish (in a good way). The Perique remained (to me) a seasoning that aided but did not become intrusive. This is not a spicy or smoky blend. As a CH fan, I found this to have something more, although I would not say that this blend is particularly complex. I, for one, don't expect tremendous complexity from Burley blends. Their inherent classic tobacco-ness is why I like them. Well done.
Highly recommended.
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7formy1911
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09/18/2011 |
Medium to Strong
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None detected
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Full
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| I've been sitting on some bulk Old Joe Krantz for about 5 months now and figured that would be a good length of time to let it mellow out a bit. Anymore I'll let a bulk C&D Blend sit for 4 to 6 months before cracking it open since it's really tough for me to gauge how much I like the blend when it's freshly done.
I'm not a fan of perique. It typically comes off as peppery to me in anything from Escudo to C&Ds Epiphany or Haunted Bookshop. Sure I get flashes of figs and dark fruits but for the most part it's more irritating than exciting. That led me to be little apprehensive about OJK. I was very pleasantly surprised. First light brings the burley up front followed by an earthy sweetness that seems to be from the red Virginia followed up by flashes of figs from the perique. As the bowl progresses the perique picks up some steam and becomes a bit more pronounced along with the Virginia. The burley is always there but towards the bottom of the bowl seems as more of a buffer than at the forefront. This blend is very smooth. It's probably one of the smoothest blends I've ever had. A little nose tickle from the perique will certainly keep you from inhaling by mistake though. Nicotine wise this blend is quite satisfying and if you are sensitive to it then I would caution you that this blend is strong. For me I'd place it in the medium to strong range but just slightly closer to medium.
I'll be trying more of this blend in different pipes but it's a burley blend first and foremost with some perique and Virginia to keep it exciting. It's certainly not complex but there is enough interest to puff on it all day. I highly recommend this blend to just about anyone to be honest. If you're a latakia fiend you will be disappointed but if you enjoy burley blends or VaPers this will certainly be a change of pace.
One item of note is that no matter how much I've dried the blend it seems to raise up like a ghost in the bowl. Mostly at the initial lighting but sometimes later on during a relight. The only other blend I've noted this on was Hal O' the Wynd.
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Puffingstuff
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07/16/2011 |
Mild to Medium
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Medium
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Pleasant to Tolerable
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| I just got through having a bowl of OJK that I've had cellared since 2005. This fine tobacco reminds me of the Old Burley blends of yester-year. It lights well, stays lit, and sips well to the bottom. The Perique adds a little freshness to the musty chocolate taste of the burley and the Red Virginia has a great zestiness that seeps thru. A delightful smoke.
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Max1a
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02/04/2011 |
Strong
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None detected
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Full
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Tolerable to Strong
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| I have six ounces remaining of Old Joe cellared, bulk in jars, from a pound I purchased in 2007. I recently purchased another pound to cellar. Gentlemen, this is not even the same tobacco! It looks completely different and tastes nothing like the prior offering. I realize that the aging has changed the tobacco somewhat but i'm sorry, not to this extent. I cannot recommend this current offering of OJK. It is harsh, tastes like a cheap cigar and the room note is appalling. In fact, I can see what appears to be pieces of cigar wrapper leaf mixed in. The perique doesn't seem to be there like my previous batch, if at all. I dunno. I'm just like a big league umpire folks......I just calls 'em as I sees 'em!
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