|
1792 Flake
| Brand: |
Samuel Gawith |
| Blender: |
Samuel Gawith |
| Tin Description: |
Full strength, mellow tobacco
comprising a blend of dark-fired Tanzanian leaf.
Made in England. |
| Country of Origin: |
UK |
| Curing Group: |
Fire Cured |
| Contents: |
Virginia
Oriental
|
| Cut: |
Flake |
| Packaging: |
50g Tin |
| Blend Notes: |
This is a full strength, mellow tobacco comprising
a blend of dark fired Tanzanian leaf. It is
Gawith's best-selling premium grade flake. It
starts as 7 lbs. of hand stripped leaf and goes
through a steaming process prior to being pressed.
The cake, having been prepared, is wrapped in a
select leaf and packed by hand into a 12 inch
square. This cake is pressed and left for a
minimum of two hours. Then, the pressed cake is
placed into a steam press where it is baked at
full heat for two to three hours. The baked cake
has then taken on 1792's characteristic rich, dark
color. It's hardening occurs during cooling. Once
the process of cutting the flake and adding a
tonquin flavor is carried out, hand wrapping and
packing finalizes 1792, making it ready for
rubbing into your pipe.
Also sold as Cob Flake in Europe. |
|
|
Average Ratings
|
| Strength: |
Strong
|
| Flavoring: |
Medium
|
| Taste: |
Full
|
| Room Note: |
Tolerable to Strong
|
| Recommendation: |
Recommended
|
|
|
|
Please log in to add or edit a review. If you do not have an account
yet, you can sign up for one here.
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Susanna Hoffs
|
01/21/2010 |
Medium to Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| Wow!.....Real quality here.
VERY smooth and mellow, and this odd casing flavour only enhances this fine weed.
To me it smokes like a richer version of FVF, in fact I added a flake of FVF to a majority bowl of 1792 and the results were outstanding. A cool dry smoke that has been one of my favourites to date and the first tobacco I have rated as four stars.
I've read comparisons to IF by Petersons... Nope, I/Flake is a lot stronger and less forgiving. Whereas 1792 is a real equisite experience. Smoke all the way to the bottom of the bowl in a steady temperate way, leaving not a hint of moisture, but fine white ash..
I'll give it a go on it's own tonight and see if the lack of FVF in the mix makes a difference. May even add some Petersons IF to really jump in with the big boys..
Brilliant stuff. A real thought provoking smoke if you want to nothing but relax and contemplate which came first....the chicken or the egg.
Highly recommended..
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
NEWMAN
|
12/19/2009 |
Medium to Strong
|
Mild to Medium
|
Full
|
Pleasant to Tolerable
|
|
| I purchased this blend in bulk and received nicely prepared dark brown/black flakes ~ 6" long with an intense but inviting aroma. Although moister than my preference, they were pliable and permitted easy packing without rubout; my preferred technique. Initial lighting was easy and relights not needed. Although strong measured by nicotine content, a smooth, cool smoke without any bite or condensation resulted. The tonquin didn't bother me and was a nice change of pace from my normal VA & Va/Per flakes. Although a bit much for me as a morning smoke, I especially enjoy this one after dinner and don't know how I missed trying it sooner over all my pipe smoking years. If you're an experienced puffer, give it a try.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
late-nitedrydrunk
|
12/14/2009 |
Strong
|
Medium
|
Medium to Full
|
Pleasant
|
|
| Deceptive strength. Why deceptive? Because the smoke is so smooth and so easy - like feathers - on the tongue that I forget I'm smoking what's billed as a "strong" tobacco. And then as I carelessly puff away, usually puffing hard so as to extract every bit of the wonderful flavor that the combination of these dark tobaccos can offer, I'll reach about 3/4 of the way down the bowl, and WHAM. It hits me. But that's why I love 1792.
How I deal with this tobacco: I buy it in bulk and rub a lot of it out at one time letting it dry out in a cigar box (like most flakes it needs a good bit of drying out). Then I put the rubbed out portion in its own jar until I'm ready to smoke. My experience with using this method has been that the tonquin flavor is greatly diminished yielding a pleasent touch of the flavouring in the smoke. So don't let the tin aroma, which is nausiating to most, fool you. Also, proper drying ensures less of the ghosting effect.
A nicely formed flake blended with what I believe to be fine virginas and possibly some orientals, 1792 is a timeless classic. My vote is five out of four stars.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
FALCON
|
12/04/2009 |
Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Very Full
|
Strong
|
|
| Tonquin tobacco?this is bad i not can whith this tobacco
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Requiem
|
12/02/2009 |
Very Strong
|
Medium
|
Medium to Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| After reading about the love/hate reactions to this tobacco, and concious it could heavily ghost a pipe, I started by smoking five or six bowls of it in a corncob.
It's high quality leaf, which comes rather moisty and with a candy like smell in the tin (which noticeably spreads trough out the room). Rubs out easy, lights fine and burns cool.
The taste (tonquin) is something unique. It's more pronounced in the first third of the bowl, settling to the background later... to me it tastes like something old. Kind of as old churches and libraries smell, and very much like old ladies used to smell when I was a kid (I wonder if tonquin was used in old fashioned fragances). I like the taste, in a bizarre way, and I specially like the after-taste. Can´t see myself craving for it everyday, but will keep a open tin around for a once in a week smoke.
Nic content is really high, the strongest tobaccos I had so far, but smooth enough on the throat. If one wants nicotine, this sure delivers it.
I decided to dedicate a pipe to it and chose a little Big Ben billiard which I hadn't pick up in months, as it always smoked poorly... with 1792 it smokes dry, cool, tastefully, just like a champ, for which I'm very pleased. Also, I find 1792 tastes better in a briar then in a cob. Also better 1 or 2 weeks after popping the tin, as many reviewers have stated.
If you haven't yet tried it, do it by all means. One word for it: bizarre.
UPDATE: The more I smoke it, the more I like it. From 3 to 4 stars.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
DK
|
11/30/2009 |
Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Extra Full
|
Strong
|
|
| This is one consternating tobacco. Let me say up front that I did not like it. It was tough to keep lit, it was too strong for my taste and the tonquin flavor was objectionable, as was the smell. However, it is definitely a tobacco that is of high quality and it is a fun tobacco to experiment with.
Stoving the tobacco (fancy word for heating it in the microwave) definitely changed its taste, but not necessarily for the better. The tonquin gave way to a heavy-bodied maduro cigar flavor, which I also did not care for. It sort of tasted like a Hoyo de Monterey double maduro robusto with a trace of spoiled egg spilled on it, if that makes any sense (which it probably does not!). A simple drying out of the tobacco for 3 hours worked ok and the tobacco tasted its best after about 3 weeks of sitting around in an unsealed tin. The tonquin was still noticeable but was a bit more subdued. If that is indeed what tonquin tastes like, it's definitely an acquired taste I did not acquire. I'm going to keep some around for blending purposes.
This is something all pipesters should try. There is enough dissension in the ranks that it could be something you'd love. Or it could be something that makes you vomit.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
LtMac
|
11/23/2009 |
Strong
|
Medium
|
Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| I recently opened a tin of 1792 Flake that has been cellaring for a little over two and one half years. When I opened the tin the first thing I noticed was the smell; to me it smelled just like a fresh tin of Samuel Gawith Brown No. 4. I then noticed that the tobacco was covered with sugar crystals and thought this would be a great smoke. I tried to get one and one half flakes out of the tin but the tobacco was so moist it stuck together and the flakes tore apart as I tried to seperate and remove them. I managed to get what appeared to be one and one half flakes out of the tin and folded them into my pipe in the same way that I smoke all flake tobacco.
A put flame to tobacco and it took forever to get it lit. Then when I thought I had it lit, it went out. The tobacco was simply too moist out of the tin to light. I tried and tried and eventually dumped the bowl. I took another couple of flakes and completely rubbed them out and left them out to dry. After sitting out in the open for around six hours, I checked them and still found them too moist so I microwaved the rubbed out tobacco for twenty seconds and it was ready to smoke. I lit up with no trouble at all and to me it tasted just like Brown Rope No. 4. It was an acceptable smoke but to me it tasted too much like a cigar and not enough like a pipe tobacco. For me there are too many better pipe tobaccos that pack just as much nicotine and don't involve so much work too prepare for smoking. This tobacco reminds me a lot of Brown Rope No. 4 in smell, flavor, and the amount of work needed to prepare for a pipe full. I give 1792 Flake two stars.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Camarade
|
11/15/2009 |
Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Very Full
|
Strong
|
|
| I've never contributed a review before, but this robust, earthy, and satisfying blend propels me to make a comment of some sort. As far as my adding yet another "review" of 1792 Flake, I believe that all I wish to say has already been eloquently said. Truth be told, this is not so much of a "review" as it is a "Thank You" to all of the previous 1792 reviewers upon whose recommendations I dared purchase a "sampling" of 1792... a whole pound right from the start, so confident was I of your estimation and critique.
Until now, Five Brothers shag cut burley was my favorite smoke. It now shares the pedestal with 1792. All else falls short for me.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Rehfeldttw
|
11/15/2009 |
Medium to Strong
|
Medium
|
Medium to Full
|
Pleasant to Tolerable
|
|
| This is the best tobacco and is definitely my cup of tea. The taste is beautiful rich sort of taste like heavy dark chocolate cream and characteristic like a madro cigar. I really can't get enough of this. I can smoke this all day.
Overall, the tobacco is dark, moist, no drying is needed and no bite throughout the bowl. If you are experience flake smoker, you will enjoy this. As for beginner, this blend might be a little strong for you.
I highly recommend this baccy!
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
The Full English
|
11/12/2009 |
Strong
|
Medium
|
Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| I'd never heard of tonquin before, nor the furore surrounding its use in consumable produce.
Nor do I care. Nor should you!
It's an awesome, one-of-a-kind experience, and the tobacco is top-drawer.
What I really care for is that the casing really makes a bold statement and yet the quality and taste of the flake itself is never undermined; it's both a knockout aromatic AND a satisfying smoke. Get underneath the unusual, but alluring vanilla- esque fragrance, and there's a good deal of subtle flavour to be discovered: mixed spice and dark chocolate for a start. Furthermore, if you like a good nicotine rush, then you're on to a winner - and you won't get the dreaded niccups, or a coarse throat in the process. It's rather more mellow. Another point scored.
It rubs out well, with a nice moisture balance, and although some people will want to air it, my preference is to use it fresh, as the scent and taste diminishes quite rapidly. Frankly, I'm not entirely sure how much of a bonus you'd find in aging 1792. Rather, I think it detracts from the whole experience - especially given the tin isn't vacuum sealed. Indeed, open the tin as soon as you've purchased it and I guarantee you that you'll be wondering if you're smoking a different tobacco within a month.
All in all, though, a remarkably mouth-watering, potent concoction, based on an age-old recipe that really every pipe smoker should be advised to try. I'll most certainly be coming back to this in due course. In fact, I fancy some right now.
Just shy of 4 stars of heady glee from me.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Loboatomy
|
11/10/2009 |
Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Full
|
Pleasant to Tolerable
|
|
| Can you believe that I was actually scared of this blend after what I read here?
I bought a can of this about a year ago, opened it once, smelled and pawed at the contents and promptly put it away in the box of tins of stuff that, though good, are not part of my rotations. I Saw it there a few times, and always figured out some excuse NOT to try it...concentrating on other things. Recently, picked up a few ouches and tins, and pulled my "inventory" out onto the table for a thorough going over. There was the orange labeled tin of 1792 staring at me. I felt guilty about it. So I opened it, and found, to my delight, that it had dried out somewhat and the flavor which had previously been reeky and weird had mellowed out somewhat. I brought up the reviews again, and decided that I would try it one of these days.
The tin sat on my coffee table for three or four days. I took the plunge.
Rubbed out nicely. Quality leave at the perfect "bends, doesn't break" moisture level. Stuffed into a half bent kaywoodie apple. Nice light.
Wow, this is smooth stuff. Great smoke consistency. Flavor of cloves and mild vanilla in the backround. A little tingle on the tongue but no bite. Virginia kicks in, smooth and stoved, still a nice flavor, less definably clovey, more like muted incense or some kind of baked spice cookies. the bowl continues to the bottom, the flavor gradually falling into the backround, leaving smooth, slightly sweet, dry stoved virginia flavor. The bowl never gets hot. I'm a cig sometimes smoker, so no appreciable nicotine side effects....just no feeling at all to smoke for the rest of the evening...probably a pretty heavy dose for the uninitiated.
A GREAT tobacco. Believe it or not, this might become a pretty regular player in my rotation.
Not nearly as "scary" as some on this board would have us believe. Not as fetid, and the tonka bean flavoring (the first time I've experienced it) is quite nice.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
michwen
|
10/25/2009 |
Medium to Strong
|
Extra Strong
|
Overwhelming
|
Overwhelming
|
|
| I have smoked ciggs, cigarrs and pipes for over 35 years and have never tasted anything this bad. This "tobacco" have nothing to do with smoking pleasure what so ever. It´s not that strong but the taste is just terrible and it destroys your pipe, had to give it a salt treatment after i smoked two bowls.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Helmsman
|
09/22/2009 |
Extremely Strong
|
Medium
|
Full
|
Pleasant to Tolerable
|
|
| If you like a smooth,full, robust, rich taste this is for you. I enjoyed this smoke. It has a punch to it and I got pleasantly lightheaded, must be a high yeild of nicotine. Lites up easy and lots of smoke. Great smoke for the end of day or evening.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Clarkus
|
09/01/2009 |
Very Strong
|
Medium
|
Medium to Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| After reading all these posts, how could I not try it? Finding out tonquin was the flavoring and Schippers was one of my all time favorites put me over the edge and I ordered a couple of tins.
While it didn't taste anything like what I remember Schippers tasting like, it was really good. I'm not a big Virginia fan, although I'm from Virginia, I found what I like in a tobacco in this one.
It broke up and packed well and I only needed two lights and the burn was good and slow. I do appreciate the advice on strength. I sat on a lounge chair on the patio and just went into a wonderful nicotine high.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Old Puffer
|
08/21/2009 |
Strong
|
Mild to Medium
|
Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| This blend is reminiscent of Best Brown Flake. It is darker in color and a bit stronger but I can't find a great difference between the two. The rest of this review is mostly lifted from my review of BBF.
1792 is a finely shredded baccy that rubs out extremely easily and the thin string cut (with no sticks) makes it a snap for easy packing. The only drawback I found in it's delivered condition was too much moisture. Had to dry it out a full day on a cookie sheet to get it right. Unfortunately, the drying process seems to have killed the extra flavor of the added oriental. Packs extremely easily; lights easily with one false light; stays lit with no effort; smokes all the way down with no bad changes in flavor or smoking characteristics and leaves a nice, clean dark ash. Leaves the mouth and pipe with no bad after odors (the wife hasn't complained) or tastes.
The flavor is IMHO pure, high quality, Virginia with added well chosen oriental. Does not smoke hot and never a trace of a bite. This has become one of my favorite baccys but I find BBF a tad less strident and therefore, in deference to it, I will not further stock 1792 unless BBF becomes more difficult to obtain. Still, a good everyday smoke that I don't think I could ever get tired of.
Thank you, Sam!
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Rodrigo de Xerez
|
08/15/2009 |
Strong
|
Strong
|
Full
|
Tolerable to Strong
|
|
| Well... the Tonkin flavour attacks again. More than twenty years ago I was so disappointed with this horrendous -for me, of course- flavouring in offerings like Amsterdamer (Amsterdammed, more precisely) and Schippers.
Not a help knowing Samuel Gawith did it a lot of time before... I cannot stand this taste and smell present from the beginning in the tin.
Why on earth messing some good virginias and orientals with this thing?
I normally do not like flakes... but this one gives a punch in nauseating tones. The only one provoking me hiccups.
Rdx score: a very generous 77.70 (because of quality leafs)
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
BriarPatch
|
08/10/2009 |
Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Full
|
Strong
|
|
| Flavored tobaccos are not my thing, and sweetly flavored tobaccos are really, really not my thing.
1792 is full of candy-like flavoring. Opening a tin is like opening a pack of bubble gum.
Of interest though in this tobacco (to some users I presume) is the Ying and Yang principle of opposites attracting. This tobacco is very strong, yet it is contradicted by a children's candy flavoring. The contrasting flavors could not be starker.
Mayhap, of interest to some users.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Bluenoser
|
08/03/2009 |
Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Very Full
|
Tolerable to Strong
|
|
| I have been puffing away on 1792 for a decade and a half. Absolutely love the taste, the look, the texture, and most of all the place where this tobacco seems to put me in thought and contemplation during each and every bowl. It is strong yet gentle. Olfactory senses before and during the smoke reminds me of hemp, the fragrent dust of #3 rope stores on board HMCS Athabaskan my first and only ship during a five year stint in the Navy....and that's a good thing. I really don't know what else to add that would help a reader to decide if he/she should try this smoke. Just beware it will be like nothing you have ever tried before(tonquin loaded), it is simply unique, a marked departure from most other offerings save a few from G&H, Sam's oldest competitor. Please continue to read on through the reviews as many others have really articulated their experiences with 1792 much better then I.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Duke
|
07/31/2009 |
Strong
|
Strong
|
Full
|
Pleasant
|
|
| 1792 what a smoke? Hey. First, you have to like dark strong tobacco and then appreciate flavors of a bygone time. Yet, today I cant imagine a pipe tobacco flavored like Skittles nor care too. It arrives really wet as do most S. Gawiths, so prior drying benefits the smoke. You simply, simply cannot suffer tongue bite with this tobacco. If youre not a journeyman pipe smoker or of strong constitution the nicotine from this smoke will beat you like a red-headed stepchild. Pippi Longstockings Facebooks vitals indicates 1792 as her least favorite pipe tobacco! Itll ghost up a pipe like Cannon Plug. Time will pass between smokes, but I always find the charm in these stout tobaccos. You will always taste the tobacco with 1792 and Cannon Plug; whereas, Cavendish based aromatics tend to castrate the tobacco taste.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Alguhan
|
07/31/2009 |
Very Strong
|
Medium
|
Very Full
|
Tolerable to Strong
|
|
| It is one of the strongest and particular smokes I've experienced. If you are smoking it for the first time please choose a small pipe, dry the flakes as much as you can, and smoke very slowly.
It can be a special smoke for some of the pipe smokers because of the nice, tasty flavors which I liked too, but it is very strong for me. I just can't smoke it.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
BrSpiritus
|
07/31/2009 |
Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| Wow, did some dandy just come back from the past and slap me with a glove? This tobacco beggars description from the tin aroma which overwhelingly chocolate to my nose to the lighting and burning which if puffed slowly and gently will produce an amazing array of flavours. I prefer to exhale through my nose to bring out the true range and depth of bouqet that is 1792. An interesting tobacco to be sure, and one not for the faint of heart or the beginner.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
AcworthAl
|
06/22/2009 |
Extremely Strong
|
Mild
|
Extra Full
|
Strong
|
|
| This is strong, very strong. It does not taste well right out of the tin. However, a few weeks of aging makes a BIG difference. I would not call this an everyday all day smoke, but it has a lot of nicotine and taste rather sweet with age. This is stonger than Five Brothers which I smoke daily
UPDATE I fell in love with this stuff, bought one pound in bulk, it is now an everyday smoke. Great taste, no bite. Room note-well that is another story.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
JR
|
06/17/2009 |
Medium to Strong
|
Medium
|
Medium to Full
|
Pleasant
|
|
| I received a tin (minus one flake) in a trade recently of this wonderful blend. I had heard good and bad about it and decided to give it a try. The tin aroma is very strong, can't really place the scent but it is quite potent nonetheless. The first puff I tried tasted like steak sauce or something and I was tempted to dump it and trash the tin. My curiosity got the best of me and I continued smoking it and haven't stopped since. I haven't noticed that steak sauce flavor at all, just a great flavor (can't put my finger on it). Nine out of 10 bowls I've smoked lately have been loaded with this lovely stuff. Others have mentioned that it's addictive and it just might be. I think it's probably a love or hate blend but I love it. I can't give it 4 stars because of that but otherwise I highly recommend it. The girlfriend tells me that it smells like chocolate when I am smoking it so that makes it a winner too. You owe it to yourself to try it and if you don't like it you can always trade it to a friend.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
quantumboy
|
06/14/2009 |
Medium to Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Medium to Full
|
Pleasant
|
|
| I want to preface this review with a disclaimer: I don't like flavored tobaccos, but I've been trying. Can't handle the sweet fruity stuff at all, so I thought I'd try something more unique. I've tried, but I just can't enjoy this 1792. To me it's harsh. The flavor is distasteful to me and it ruins the tobacco flavor. The mouth feel is acrid and it just tastes bad. It packs and burns nicely, and for those who like flavored baccies it's probably a good choice (judging from the good ratings it gets here) because the flavor is definitely...how shall I say it...unique. Just not for me.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
ronjam
|
06/05/2009 |
Strong
|
Strong
|
Full
|
Pleasant
|
|
| My impressions are from a bulk order, may be different from the canned version.
First impression scent from the bag:
Perfect for one who grew up in S. Florida near the wetlands and beach: swampy, a bit of jasmine and gardenia - then the second wave scent: made me think of an Easter basket, kinda like Bob's Chocolate flake without the latakia.
WARNING!!
neurologists may know why, but there is something about certain sensory experiences that lock in neurological connections that are the definition of addiction.
This blend is addictive. The mysterious scent, the full flavor, the high quality base tobacco, the history. My favorite blend is Best Brown Flake, still 1792 is special. It brings back memories from years back when I tried to enjoy Condor and similar blends.
I won't get into the Tonquin thing, I don't care, I am hooked and love it.
Highly recommended for that special smoke, yet, I find myself going back to it many times a day. Damn! I am hooked!!
The following updated comments are for the tinned version:
Upon opening the tin I found that this is the strongest scented tobacco I have ever experienced. An overwhelming blend of almond, cherry and vanilla with an underlying dark stoved darkness. I can understand how some have been disgusted and turned off by this tobacco. But, by taking the flakes out of the can and drying out for a day or two the scent is quite moderated. Another thing I like to do is fill a pipe, light the tobacco, smoke for a minute then let the pipe rest all night. In the morning it is just right. although the scent is strong, it is not so noticeable while smoking.
I have not changed my view of this blend, I still include it among my top 10 - I am smoking it as I write in a beautiful Ser Jacopo Pipaccia.
This blend is rich, satisfying, and at least not boring. I recently received a bulk packaging of this blend and the scent was perfectly moderated and enjoyable.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Carrot
|
06/01/2009 |
Strong
|
Strong
|
Full
|
Strong
|
|
| The first time I tried this tobacco I really did not know what to think. I had never tasted Tonquin before and I could not make up my mind what it tasted like. After the first smoke I thought it tasted like roadkill. Some poor rodent that had been hit by a car and left to rot in the summer sun for a few weeks.
I do think that 1792 is an aquired taste and you should not make up your mind after your first smoke of it. It took me a while to get used to and now I really like it. I don't smoke it every day and it is great after a heavy meal. I had a large steak dinner yesterday and afterwards fired up a bowl or two of 1792 when I was done eating. It was just what the doctor ordered and as I lay on my sofa digesting my food and smoking my pipe all was well with the world.
I think this is the best after dinner tobacco but too much for an everyday smoke. I always have some of this around for when I need it.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
onehitter
|
05/29/2009 |
Medium
|
Extremely Mild
|
Medium to Full
|
Strong
|
|
| I think eating a steak while smoking 1792 would be pretty tasty. 1792 taste is deep,rich and a little leathery but the leather taste was only there as an after note no bite burns nice. I wouldn't call this an aromatic at all I didn't notice any flavoring in fact it was flavorless sans tobacco. This wasn't that strong to me.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
N7COF
|
05/29/2009 |
Very Strong
|
Very Mild
|
Full
|
Tolerable to Strong
|
|
| A must try blend and a swift kick in the ass of nicotine
Not on my daily routine but have on hand for those rare masochistic pipe smoking moods.
* Bad ** Good *** Excellent **** Exceptional
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
KAW999
|
05/05/2009 |
Strong
|
Medium
|
Full
|
Pleasant
|
|
| I'm new to pipe smoking. I love all of the different types of pipe tabacco out there and so far this is my favorite. I started out smoking Virginia and Va/Per blends; I'm trying to kick the cigarettes, I thought I would try this blend unknowing that it was a Aromatic, I was a little scared to try it but if this is a true Aromatic tabacco than that is what I like. There is a flavor there that I can't describe and it is great. I'm going to order more of this tabac for cellaring.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Bob Smith
|
04/26/2009 |
Strong
|
Extra Strong
|
Overwhelming
|
Tolerable
|
|
| After half a bowl of this stuff, I had to set down my pipe, lie on the floor and pray that I wouldn't throw up on my Persian rug. I often smoke full English blends, so I don't think it was the strength of the tobacco that caused this. I wonder if the weird tonquin flavoring may cause some kind of allergic reaction in some people.
Clearly many smokers like this blend, so my advice is this: try it if you're adventurous, but keep a bucket handy the first time, just in case.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
strongirish
|
04/09/2009 |
Medium to Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Medium to Full
|
Pleasant to Tolerable
|
|
| I received a tin of this recently and have to say I find it a good smoke. I set out a couple of flakes overnight and upon rising in the late morning (I'm a night owl) I hand rubbed it out and packed a favorite pipe with it. It had a burst of flavor from the very first puff and grew in intensity as I smoked the pipe down. I really like the bottom of the bowl flavor and overall it had a sweet musty tart taste to me. I liked the room note but i could see where nonsmokers might find offense to it. It was very soft to the touch when rubbing out and has a dark oily look to it but I was surprised at how gentle it is. No bite at all and a very pleasant blend. I look forward to many more smokes of this. Not at all what i expected, not vanilla like at all, just an unusual sweetness while still tasting the tobacco.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
h2oman
|
03/25/2009 |
Medium to Strong
|
Mild
|
Medium
|
Tolerable to Strong
|
|
| A very good cool smoke. This flake is very easy to rub out. It is very complex, with flavors of chocolate, mint and a very subtle spiciness. There is more there but I am not yet good enough to pick up those flavors. I was so impressed with this blend i bought 2 pounds of it.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
kg0mz
|
03/08/2009 |
Strong
|
Medium
|
Full
|
Pleasant to Tolerable
|
|
| I began burning this in a cob, I guess as a precaution. I ordered it bulk, and after the first bowl canned most of it in a mason jar. Its works for me as a last-of-the-day smoke. If I've had something cased earlier I don't notice any bite, but after smoking FVF today the 1792 seemed a little rowdy to the tongue. Nothing brutal, but it left a coating, of sorts. I cannot connect the taste of the tonquin to anything. I think it is pleasant with an ale. If this is an acquired taste, then I am almost there. I will either pop open that jar in the cellar or order a tin. I want more.
03/08/09 Update: Same cob, I'm liking this flake more and more. Rub it into the cob and it burns cool and dry. Outside in the sun on the front porch on a warm, almost-spring day after a bowl of spicy beef stew this was flat out delicious. I changed the room note to "Pleasant to Tolerable" because of input from others. I am no longer detecting a palate coating, and certainly no bite. I like this as much as anything I have rated "Highly Recommended." I am hesitant to go there, just yet.
03/14/09 update: Saturday was a day for pipe smoking. The wife went to her sister's. Abingdon, Penzance, and now 1792. This was the highlight. Four stars, unqualified. Taste acquired.
07/27/09 UPDATE: I am revising some of my reviews. I have given out more 4 star ratings than anything else. That practice is probably not helping. So, I am reducing 1792 to 3 stars, not because I like it less than I did before, but because I am limiting 4 stars to fewer than 25% of all my reviews. One day I MAY use the 4 star rating to designate my top five.
12/04/09 Final update, I promise. After months of a steady diet of Kendall Kentucky, Irish Flake, ABF, and a few VApers, I returned to 1792 this week. I have to place it in my top five. Back to 4 stars to stay. If you like a strong, full leaf, I can highly recommend this dark Kendal flake.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Skando
|
03/01/2009 |
Strong
|
Medium
|
Medium to Full
|
Strong
|
|
| Scrolling down the great numbers of reviews till now, the first - obvious - comment is: 1792 is love-or-hate. Regarding me... I'm more on the love side.
In my records and memories 1792 is the sole tonka bean perfurmed tobacco nowadays. I cannot do without thinking back in my memories, tonka bean was one of the classic way the dutch tobaccos were flavoured with (I'm thinking mainly to Schippers, Amsterdamer and, if my memory is not failing, Egberts 44... all discontinued).
I find 1792 strong but not overwhelming - now smoking it as the first pipeful at 08:00AM this sunday morning and just need one more cup of coffee for my stomach... - the tonka bringing out sweetening and mellowing the heavier tones of the fire cured tobaccos (BTW: I don't think there is any oriental in here).
1792 is not everyday meal, that's sure, unless you mix it with something milder, which I have experimented with Troost Aromatic Cavendish with very good results (IMHO of course). I have three Castello shape 15 (a billiard-pot crossover) dedicated, the one with narrower bowl for smoking it straight the others for the mixture.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
periqueguy
|
02/19/2009 |
Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Full
|
Pleasant
|
|
| Personally, I do not find this as overpowering as some have stated. I usually smoke this when I need a rude awakening. This is excellent tobacco and only for the mature, experienced, pipe smoker. Although 1792 has an aromatic additive, I feel that it is targeted for the English smoker.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
KINGCOLE
|
02/18/2009 |
Very Strong
|
Strong
|
Very Full
|
Pleasant
|
|
| Folks who believe Five Brothers to be strong probably have not tried this. This mixture is big and heavy in terms of flavor, aroma, mouthfeel, and nicotine level. Oh, and satisfaction! Probably not a starter smoke, but not one to be missed if you find a liking for headier mixtures. 1792 Flake is a wonderfully unique smoking experience. In spite of the pronounced flavoring, it smokes more like a natural than an aromatic. The tobacco that forms the backbone of the blend is robust in a way that reminds me of finer dry-cured cigars like Dannemans. It delivers spicy notes as well as an underlying sultry muskiness. The tonka topping for which this blend is famous (or should I say notorious?) brings back memories of the golden chicklets that I used to get out of penny gum machines when I was a kid. Tonka bean extract used to be a common candy and gum flavoring until someone somewhere discovered that if you force-feed rats a pound of it a day they eventually die. Anyway, what a combination - - pleasures of childhood and mature adulthood combined in one ass-whooping thick blue cloud of smoke. I've ordered this from JRCigar.com and from Pipesandtobacco.com and have not, to date, been dissappointed with the readily-smokeable condition of the product received. I vow to never be without this in rotation.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Pipestud
|
02/09/2009 |
Very Strong
|
Mild to Medium
|
Extra Full
|
Pleasant
|
|
| This is one of the most powerful blends I have ever smoked. I knew I was in for a tussle the moment I first lit the stuff. The flavor and power springs forth from the first puff and never lets up. In fact, this blend's strength asserts itself even more as you work your way (slowly please), down the bowl.
I remember the first time I opened a tin of 1792 Flake. The odor was simply foul and made my eyes water. The flake is unique, almost velvety to the touch and it breaks up easily enough and packs the same. It would be smarter to leave it less than fully rubbed because a slower burn is necessary to really appreciate this wonderfully tasty but explosive blend. And choose a small pipe. You don't want to smoke too much at once. The moisture content is heavy and drying is an absolute must before smoking.
The flavor is hard to describe. It is a unique experience to say the least. The Virginia is there as well as something mysterious that I can't put my nicotine stained finger on. It is as fine a smoke as I remember ever having. I just don't want to smoke it again anytime soon. Does that make sense? Probably not until you fire up a bowl.
I'd love to get a dozen or so folks into a slow smoking contest with 1792 Flake as the competition blend. We'd call the contest, "Survivor."
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
DerekSmartymans
|
02/08/2009 |
Very Strong
|
Medium
|
Full
|
Tolerable to Strong
|
|
| 1792 Flake is a quintessential Virginia flake tobacco. The tin aroma is a very ferocious licorice candy flavor, one that assaults the nostrils as soon as the tin is cracked open for the first time. It presents as a very dark brown to blackish flake tobacco, with none of the striations or colorings in other flakes such as Dunhill's Light Flake. The licorice smell persists through lighting, as well as, honestly, almost the entire bowl full of this tobacco. After rubbing it out and letting it sit for about 15 minutes I have to admit this tobacco did not dry out as well as I'd hoped. Plunging on, as my smoking time was limited, I went ahead and filled the bowl.
The aroma fools you. This is not a sweet tobacco at all, but a very earthy blend with slight flavorings that are hard to pick up on and quantify. Notes of juniper and a strong creamy flavor predominate as you smoke through the bowl, with the tonquin flavoring only poking its head in now and again. It is an exceptionally strong smoke, able to be felt in the throat and nose as you continue through the bowl. I also noted that this tobacco did make me cough a couple of times, something that happens rarely and not since some of Dunhill's Royal Yacht straight out of the tin like this. The room note is very strong, and while not exactly a perfume you'd want on your girlfriend or wife, it's definitely something different in a pipe smoke. It smoked down to very little dottle, with a little bit of gray ash and some unburnt rubbings in the bottom of my Spartan.
I would recommend this tobacco to a practiced pipe smoker, but not a beginner. Some of the odors and tastes may throw a new pipe smoker off of trying other Virginias that do it "better," but I still have to admit that I enjoyed the entire experience from tin odor to dottle. A practiced pipe smoker may notice some of the nuances that go with this tobacco, somewhat similar to Brown Rope but not nearly as offensive to some as Black XXX Rope can be. My estimation is that something this popular has to have something going for it, and I was suggested this tobacco by my own tobacconist who was smoking a bowl in his Meerschaum "Death's Head" as I talked to him about what new tins to try. He said the skull he was smoking from represented how some would view this tobacco, and he wasn't far wrong. I do plan on enjoying the rest of the tin, just not making it part of my daily rotations in the near future.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
mcbpipe
|
02/01/2009 |
Extremely Strong
|
Strong
|
Medium
|
Tolerable to Strong
|
|
| Firstly I find this has to be dried our before smoking & additionally rubbed out. I enjoy the first 1/3 but after that I find it just too strong especially nicotine wise. It irritates my stomack & just doesnt taste good to me. My major use for 1792 is to buck up a wimpier blend, which lacks an edge but has good taste.A few strands of 1792 rubbed into another blend can work wonders, just dont add too much or it will overwhelm. I find that 1792 does not DGT well, it is harsh.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
hagen
|
01/29/2009 |
Very Strong
|
Very Strong
|
Very Full
|
Very Strong
|
|
| update: going through my reviews here, i find that i'll have to downgrade a good deal of the praise i've given so many blends. 4 stars should, i feel, be reserved for the blends i find truly exceptional. so, this is downgraded a bit.
update: now this is strange: i let the tin rest (and dry out) for a couple of weeks, and then tried it again. and all of a sudden it seems to have become less harsh, less perfumed, and less strong. it now comes through as a tobacco of caracter and even refinement, the flavouring complementing the dark fired splendidly.
first review: it's not my kind of tobacco. i took two sips from it, and instantly felt faint and dizzy, as well as overwhelmed by the taste. too much nicotine, too much tonquin bean , and too dry a mouthfeel from the darkfired. not that i doubt the many who praise the quality of this blend, and i may try it again some time when it has dried a little - but it'll be a few weeks before i'll have the courage.
i've smoked irish flake without feeling queezy, and st. bruno - so this must be incredibly strong!
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
BingCrosby
|
01/23/2009 |
Extremely Strong
|
Strong
|
Extra Full
|
Overwhelming
|
|
| My first few bowls of this were bliss.. Very strong flavorful tobacco - very well produced.. But as time went on i found the flavor more and more sickening to the point where if i even think about it i get sick.. this is obviously very good tobacco.. but like black licorice you better have a taste for it or you will regret buying it..
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Fernalgas
|
01/23/2009 |
Medium to Strong
|
Very Strong
|
Very Full
|
Strong
|
|
| Totally agree with Casper's analogy,first couple of times that I smoked I got the hiccups. I am in my 4th smoke of it right now..it seems to be getting better. The tonquin taste really different to me. Not something you want to smoke if you have a hangover..believe me when I say this..jaja
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Casper
|
01/22/2009 |
Strong
|
Medium
|
Very Full
|
Pleasant to Tolerable
|
|
| I think first trying 1792, specifically for new pipers, follows this analogy: Your twelve years old and dad lets you take a nip of his scotch, you take too much of course and...gag...blah...ptuey...you fall down. Perhaps that explains some of the hilarious reviews below. This is a blend akin to any quality single malt and as such requires easy sipping. Easy sipping allows you to appreciate the depth of flavours, (I'm afraid my powers of description would not do it justice). You don't want to be puffing this like it's CH! I deeply appreciate a bowl that can last several hours. This one of the few out there that does. As well, there is the plug version, (cob plug), which allows you to cant the flavour according to your taste by means of your prep method. Happy puffing!
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
BBlevins
|
01/19/2009 |
Extremely Strong
|
Strong
|
Very Full
|
Overwhelming
|
|
| This stuff is as foul as anything I have ever encountered. It should have been named, "Smell My Finger".
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Sinister Topiary
|
01/19/2009 |
Medium to Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Very Full
|
Pleasant to Tolerable
|
|
| Love at first puff!
The smell when you open the tin is like no other, a vanilla-ish smell that is intoxicating and alluring and vaguely other-worldly. But once you start smoking it...wow. No subtlety or depth here, just in-your-face bombast from its unique tonecolor that must be the tonquin everyone talks about.
Bright, rich, powerful and jubilant, like John Adam's Grand Pianola Suite or Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture. Not an every day smoke, but a unique flavor delivered with strength that I now find myself craving with regularity. A power chord in my rotation.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
jeffo
|
01/16/2009 |
Medium to Strong
|
Medium
|
Full
|
Pleasant to Tolerable
|
|
| i am smoking this from a new tin so its a bit damp, but not to worry its worth it, i was a bit worried because i didnt like squadren leader, but this is different great taste a bit like a dark chocolate taste, try it with a good real ale i am smoking it in a peterson and it is perfection (i mght try that next) BARBERS do a 250g pack and i will buy more the taste realy is unique
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
IHT
|
01/07/2009 |
Strong
|
Mild to Medium
|
Full
|
Very Pleasant
|
|
| I'm a fan of most SG and/or GH&Co strong blends like this. I loved Bracken Flake, so I tried this, and at first had to take a step back due to the aroma. One of those "love it/hate it" things. If you love it, it grows on you.
Prep for this flake is easy, like all SG flakes, they rub out easy, pack great, smoke great.
It has a decent sized nicotine kick to it as well, which matches with the "up in your face" type flavors.
Flavors, to me, are hard to put to words, but it has a nice tingle on the tongue (not bite), a dark spice, kind of musty, like you're smoking it in an old attic (if you're into that kinda thing).
Just a great blend, all around, from prep, aroma, strength, burning qualities and flavors. Oddly enough, my wife loved the room note on this.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
PfeifenRaucher
|
12/26/2008 |
Extremely Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Medium to Full
|
Strong
|
|
| It is 1:30 AM and I am writing this review because I am wide awake after smoking this blend in a very small corn cob at a much earlier hour of the evening and since I can't fall asleep I figure I might as well write a review of this. I also got hiccups while smoking it. That should give you an idea of how insanely strong it is.
Taste is nice but nothing spectacular - reminds me of an unsweetened version of a American-style toasted Cavendish + a nondescript flowery scent. It leaves a coating in the mouth I could do without though.
As others have said - you have try this, if only once. Its weird stuff. I can see some nicotine fiends going ga-ga over it though.
I recommend buying this in a SMALL bulk sample to see if you really like it first. That is what I did and I think it may take me the next 10 years to finish the 1 oz. sample I do have.
UPDATE: The taste in my mouth the morning after such a small bowl is unacceptable - I have to give this only 1-star. No amount of toothpaste and Listerine seems to be able to make the awful taste and chalkiness in my mouth go away. Add to this the fact that tonquin is not a food-grade additive and I can't recommend this concoction unless you are:
1. The kind of person who needs lots and lots of nicotine (i.e., ex-cig smoker).
2. You smoke full English blends all day long, all the time and you don't mind what that does to your tastebuds/halitosis.
3. You like monotone tobaccos.
If you fit that description consider this a 2-star review for you.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
jopado
|
12/21/2008 |
Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Very Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| Flake ? Kinda-Sorta. But be careful. It can bite and might leave an after taste. Doesn't seem to matter what bulk you order it in it always seems to be "pre-shredded". That's OK, unless you expected a true flake. Packs well. Lites nice and burns true all the way down. Especially if you set your pipe down, let it go out and re lite after a few pages. That second half is great! This would be four stars if it was a sure enough flat square go to hell FLAKE. UPDATE:12/23/08 Allright, it's not so important that it's not a true flake.It ages well and smokes better as time goes by. My last effort at using this blend made me and the old woman very happy.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
bluejohnwilli
|
12/16/2008 |
Very Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Medium to Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| wow this great an outstanding tobacco one of the best i have tried must buy a couple of pound next time. i just love sam gawith flakes .
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Invigilator
|
12/03/2008 |
Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Full
|
Pleasant
|
|
| I have been smoking this delightful flake (and its plug version) for many years now, and I enjoy it more and more as the years go by.
Despite its somewhat forbidding appearance in the tin and its pungency, it fills the bill for me when I want a satisfying after-dinner smoke, preferably in a smalll or medium-sized bowl. It rubs out easily, lights readily and burns to the bottom of the bowl without the need for re-lights, producing generous clouds of rich, sweet, mouth-filling smoke and a general feeling of all being well with the world.
What more could I ask for?
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Britannia
|
11/26/2008 |
Strong
|
Mild
|
Full
|
Strong
|
|
| Me love Tonquin bean, must have! God this stuff is good! Very relaxing, no tongue burn or Vitamin N overdose. I have to start hording this.
[Update 2009] Seriously, this is good tobacco, quality at its best. Not overpowering as some people might say, just a good smoke. One of my top flakes.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
krumpelman
|
11/26/2008 |
Strong
|
Medium
|
Full
|
Pleasant to Tolerable
|
|
| This is one of those tobaccos that you know is good because it smells "bad". Going on reviews from forums, I decided to give it a try. I am glad I did. The tobacco had a strong, and for me, un-desirable smell. however when lit... it is wonderful. My first few times with this tobacco seemed to be a bit hard to light. After letting it dry out for a bit, it lit great. Nice virginia taste. First tonquin blend for myself, and I seem to like it. Notes of cloves throughout the bowl. I found nicotine content to be strong, but not enough to make me sick. Enjoyed with a beer, and had a few good hours ahead of me. I like to enjoy this half bowl, then DGT it for a while.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Kilmarnock Piper
|
11/20/2008 |
Extremely Strong
|
Medium
|
Very Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| Just got around to trying this one, in the tin. The alleged or actual Tonquin flavoring is not as strong as I was anticipating, but the tobacco sure is. Would give one hiccups if not careful. Produces voluminous amounts of smoke, but is quite satisfying if smoked correctly (carefully). Drys out quickly (my sample does at least), and burns well. I have yet to try a really large bowl, but I am looking forward to the experience. Don't be scared off by the Tonquin, it's really not too overwhelming-but this is most definitely a powerhouse tobacco!
Downgrading to 3 stars-I got tired of it and had to force myself to finish the tin. Don't hate it, it is just not a tobacco I would smoke all the time. Glad I didn't buy a pound, but not sorry I tried it. The taste seared itself into my epithelial cells every time I smoked it!
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Silver Spigot
|
10/14/2008 |
Very Strong
|
Mild
|
Full
|
Pleasant
|
|
| This is an unusual smoke; a sort of cross between straight Virginia and aromatics. The aroma is subtle...lilac?...lavender?...rose?...very pleasant. The taste is full-flavored, slightly sweet, very strong. I enjoy this as an "after-dinner" or "dessert" smoke...a wonderful blend.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Pipe-arazzo
|
10/06/2008 |
Very Strong
|
Mild to Medium
|
Medium to Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| Lakeland Tour Stop 12
I smoked this once when a newbie--a thoughtless or malicious older gentleman gave me part of a tin--and I could not finish a bowl. I bought the tin I'm reviewing now sometime in 2004 or 2005. They aren't date-stamped and I don't recall exactly. But it was at least 3 1/2 years old when I opened it on June 29th. The aging had done it some good, I think. Distinguishing it from newer tins of Gawith flakes I have opened, it was the perfect smoking humidity right out of the tin. The flakes, also, were a uniform thinness, which is rare these days from Gawith, for what it's worth.
This stuff is strong...as if you needed me to tell you that. I had to smoke it in small bowls or only fill the bowl halfway at first, and I still got some headaches. I always smoked it, at least early on, right after a meal. But after 8 or so smokes I got used to it enough to smoke a whole large bowl of it even between meals. It works best when fully rubbed out. It burned evenly and cooly all the way down most of the time.
This only got better and better as I smoked it. At first, what I noticed the most was the Tonquin flavoring. But note: there was no Lakeland soapiness here at all! Tonquin is NOT what gives Lakelands their soapy flavor. It is, rather, a kind of sweet taste halfway between vanilla and citrus fruit. The base, which I noticed more as I went through the tin over the last three months, was of strong, earthy, smooth tobacco. It had some hints of the "peaty" flavor that really dominates Black XX rope, in my view, but only hints.
For a powerhouse of a scented flake, this is top-notch. Give it some age, be careful with it, and you should be rewarded.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Pipe4ever
|
09/24/2008 |
Strong
|
Strong
|
Medium to Full
|
Strong
|
|
| Sorry I don?t like the smell/taste/flavor, this tobacco doesn?t smell or taste tobacco, it is not for me, but you have to try it for yourself. Maybe you will love it.
I could not finish the first bowl and the tin is gone in the drawer.
* Bad blend ** Good blend *** Excellent blend **** Exceptional blend
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
marosi
|
09/18/2008 |
Overwhelming
|
Medium to Strong
|
Extra Full
|
Extra Strong
|
|
| 1792 Flake is the nuclear bomb of pipe tobaccos. I have smoked many, many pipe blends, and nothing is even remotely as strong as 1792. This stuff will pimp-slap you back to 1792 if you try to smoke too much of it in a big bowled pipe. In the words of Ali G, "respect!"
1792 looks like strips of bicycle inner tube in the tin. It smells funky. My tin, from several years ago, smelled like rubber and old coffee. A buddy just ordered a tin, and we were both surprised that it contained a rather pleasant, sweet tin aroma, and seemed more broken than the strips of leather in my tin. I have not smoked any from this newer tin yet, so I cannot report on whether it tastes any different.
Like all Gawith flakes, the quality is second to none. You really cannot buy better quality or processed tobacco. This is as good as it gets. It rubs out nicely, takes a charring light easily, and burns coolly with a few relights down to the bottom of the bowl, if you can get there without passing out.
How does one describe the taste of 1792? Massive doses of tobacco, with the added flavor of tonquin. I cannot think of anything similar to this flavor to even offer a comparison. Maybe ouzo and coffee, mixed with chocolate (it tastes better than that sounds). If you do not smoke regularly, or are not used to large cigars, the strength of this tobacco is overwhelming. I have had to put the pipe down for a few minutes just to regain my composure before finishing bowl off. I do not exagerate. It is that strong. Read the Pipes and Tobaccos review of this blend if you think I am some beginner wussy.
This blend is singular. There is nothing else like it in the world of tobacco that I know of. It is a far cry from trying your 40th generic va blend. You owe it to yourself to have a tin on hand at all times, if for no other reason than to foist upon the unsuspecting. All hail Gawith!!!
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Oouder
|
09/10/2008 |
Medium
|
Strong
|
Medium to Full
|
Strong
|
|
| Ok. I have heard many good thing and many bad this about this flake. I have tried this tobac once before and could not finish the tin. Now I went to the store last week and bought another tin. It's just too much. When the blend heats up it tastes ok even good but..... when this stuff is cold it is disgusting. I am finished with this stuff. I am going to jar the tin and come back to it every now and then. I really want to like this but at this point I just don't. I will update the review if anything changes but as of right now I have to say this stuff is just plain nasty. The topping is disgusting.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
BriarChef
|
09/10/2008 |
Strong
|
Extra Strong
|
Full
|
Overwhelming
|
|
| Thanks, but no thanks.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
p4p4
|
08/30/2008 |
Extremely Strong
|
Strong
|
Full
|
Tolerable to Strong
|
|
| Bleah ! No doubt, high quality tobacco, but for my taste is out !
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Packer
|
08/24/2008 |
Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| Original 2/25/08 This is my first review. After smoking pipes for forty plus years I recently discoverd this sight. I have spent hours enjoying these reviews. I have been led to try many new blends without any BAD ones. Several of these have become bulk buys for cellaring. I bought two tins of 1792, and looked forward to trying it soon. Last night I got around to it. I was forwarned about the smell of the tin. I did not let that put me off. I was also warned of the taste upon inital light. I kept waiting on somthing to like about this blend....it never happened. Burn rate etc. was OK but the flavor only got worse as I continued to smoke. I finally gave up when the bowl was about 90% spent. The taste was in a word...horrible. This morning every thing that I have had to eat,drink,or smoke has had this same taste. YUK. I will be happy when my taste buds return to normal. I've never had this expierence before,and hope I never do again. I just order a pound each of Night Train,Old Joe Krantz,and Anniversary Kake. !792 is a love it or leave it blend....I guess you know my vote! *
Up Date.....My oh my what 6 months will do to ones taste! This was my first review. I have developed a unquinchable love of Virginias. This was the only blend that I absolutely could not stand...........Well as I worked my way through about 45 Va. blends I gravitated toward some stronger blends, such as Black XX rope, Irish Flake, and YES now 1792. Maybe having a tin that was opened 6 months ago let the tobacco dry, and air out some, or maybe my taste has changed that much. Either way, I find this an enjoyable smoke now, and will always have it on hand. Rate * * *
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Pseudo Nim
|
08/20/2008 |
Very Strong
|
Very Strong
|
Full
|
Strong
|
|
| I had no idea what a tonquin bean is or for that matter, what it tasted like, chocolate is the impression I get, now I like chocolate, especially dark chocolate, I also like plums, I have a couple of plum trees in my garden, (though I tasted no plums in this) I also like coffee, in the morning, preferably, in a mug. I do not like these flavours in tobacco.
I had hoped to taste a good strong tobacco, but for me this is chocolate flavoured vitamin N.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Sylvian
|
07/16/2008 |
Very Strong
|
Strong
|
Full
|
Strong
|
|
| Great insecticide! Ants were gone in two days. For this purpose that'd be highly recommended; for savoring a pipe, only somewhat recommended as it's worth shaking hands with this demon. Be sure not to shake too long though, you might end up without the whole arm.
Like many reviewers advised, a small bowl and good drying are a must.
I admit I got quickly accustomed to the weird aroma and even learned to find it enjoyable, but I don't want to get accustomed to the nicotine+tonquin hit this beast has to offer. Simply not my cup of poison tea. Sorry ma'am.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
downeck
|
07/11/2008 |
Strong
|
Mild to Medium
|
Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| Smelled like a dead bird when I opened the tin.
I took some out, broke it up evenly and let it dry for an hour or two.
I packed a good amount carefully into a corn pipe.
It's an amazing blend. It's just right: tastes amazing, burns well, and it had a peculiar calming effect like no other.
I'll leave the details to the experts down there, but I will just add that it is the finest tobacco I ever smoked.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
good smoke
|
06/25/2008 |
Strong
|
Medium
|
Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| I'am smoking some 1792 now. I like it. The tin smell is unique, I can't place it, it smells almost offensive. I do taste the licorice and vanilla. It is very mellow and sweet, no bite. Try smokng this with an Imperial Stout Beer, the compliment is very good. 4 stars
update: Iam smoking some now. This is a damn good tobacco. Iam thinking of trying some xxrope.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
WillardFan
|
06/16/2008 |
Mild to Medium
|
Mild to Medium
|
Medium to Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| 6/14/08
Sorry guys, but as a huge fan of Gawith blends, this one just didn't do it for me. After reading the reviews here, I have to agree with the negative stuff about this tobacco blend. The tin smell was questionable, and keeping it lit was a chore. I disliked the flavor from the initial light-up to the end of the bowl, and what I seemed to taste was something akin to a strong Cigar. It took me a while to figure out what the weird flavor was, but for me it was a cigarish taste. Maybe it's the Tonquin, I just don't know, but I know I won't be buying anymore of this stuff. I have a lot of pipes to choose from, so I'll try it in some other models. I have a Calabash pipe, that really lets you get the true taste of tobaccos, without the flavors of the ghost tobaccos smoked previously. I'll be back with a final update, but so far, I'm not a fan of this one!
6/16/08
OK, so I'm trying this again in a St. Claude, large bowled billiard, and my head is spinning like Linda Blair's. Of course I didn't take some of your warnings about smoking it on an empty stomach, so I deserve what's happening to me. The flavor is still not my cup of tea. Cigarish for sure. The room note is stenchy. I'd like to try this without the Tonquin additive. I think I'll stick with my favorite Sammy blend, Commonwealth Mixture. I need to go lay down now, before I puke...
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Lord Byron
|
06/09/2008 |
Medium
|
Strong
|
Medium to Full
|
Very Strong
|
|
| This indeed is one compelling flake. I have not smoked much of it and honestly tried my best not to like it from the start but as others have stated, who enjoy it, there is something that keeps you coming back to it (opiates? good analogy, one wonders). It certainly has a unique character that can not rightly be compared to much else and must be taken seriously if it is to be appreciated.
I am a big fan of SG and G&H Flakes and this is one that I had yet to try so I picked up a couple of tins with my last bulk purchase. Having read the reviews posted here numerous times I could not wait to open the tin and experience the aroma that everyone has had such a difficult time trying to describe. And when I did I understood why. Many thoughts came to mind as I took in the aroma of the tobacco. The first and probably most memorable impression for me was Halloween. Specifically, a pillow case full of candied corn. I could smell the ?vanilla ?like? tonka bean scent as well as anise or sarsaparilla root. There was the earthiness of the tobacco and a musty medicinal quality as well. In the background though was something that another referred to as ?almost offensive.? I concur. Oddly enough it reminded me a bit of Latakia as its burning. Pleasant if you are smoking it but akin to burning manure if you are not. Perhaps there is a similarity in the curing process because it stays throughout the smoke, translates to spiciness and remains well after you finish.
I have gone through a tin of 1792 in a very short period of time recently and have noticed that as I got closer to the end and the drier it got, the better the smoke. No surprises there. As far as strength I did not get the impression that the nicotine content was exceptionally high. (In fact Kendal Cream seems stronger in my observation.)
The room note leaves a lot to be desired however I will say it does smell the same as it tastes and the aftertaste does linger. I did not appreciate this at first but it quickly grew on me. In some ways the Virginia in this blend reminded me of Coniston Cut Plug (unscented). Very earthy, slightly spicey and exceptionally dry in texture. It takes effort and a little time but I can see where this could become a staple for a lot of English blend smokers. Especially those trying to wean themselves from Latakia enough to fancy a quality Virginia. In fact, I wish I would have tried this sooner when I was doing the same.
With that said, would I recommend it? Without hesitation. It has all the fine smoking characteristics one would want in a solid dark English flake and the quality that we all expect from Gawith. It is absolutely four stars worthy. Will it be in my regular rotation? That will have to be determined, more than likely by Cob Plug which I intend to try next. I have a feeling that more of 1792 will be revealed in time spent with the plug version. (Similar to Kendal plug and BB or FVF) Nothing like getting to know a new tobacco, especially one with such a rich history as 1792.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Chops
|
05/08/2008 |
Strong
|
Mild
|
Full
|
Pleasant to Tolerable
|
|
| I've tried both the flake and plug form of this tobacco and can easily say that I've enjoyed both very much. This is a rich, dark, and earthy smoke and, on the whole, very well balanced with the velvet vanilla-like aroma of the tonka bean.
I'm so enamored with 1792 that I've decided to scrap my old favorite, Peterson's University Flake, in favor of this one and will purchase a bulk quantity to set some aside for cellaring.
Though my preference is for the flake, many other reviewers seem to favor the plug version. Their argument that the blend looses some of its characteristics after being flaked has merit. Certainly, the plug version affords much more flexibility to the smoker and can be cut into cubes or whatever else he desires. (This process is in itself an enjoyable exercise, though the novelty will eventually wear off.) If you intend to cut it into flake anyway, this versatility may be a moot point. Indeed, the much higher moisture content of the plug necessitates that it be set aside for a length of time and allowed to dry.
One final note: The use of tonka beans (the topping in 1792) as a food additive is prohibited in the US (CFR Title 21, section 189.130) since the seed contains coumarin, a toxic and possibly carcinogenic substance.
I guess all good things must come at a price! But, unless you plan on ingesting your tin of 1792, the trace amount of tonka shouldn't send you to your grave.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
parris001
|
04/23/2008 |
Medium to Strong
|
Medium
|
Very Full
|
Tolerable to Strong
|
|
| My first impression upon opening the tin was that this stuff has a great aroma. Kind of a blend of liquorice and juniper, very rich and dark. The flake was a new experience for me but after a few relights I got the hand of it. I feel that if I had allowed it to air out a little more I would not have had that problem.
I must admit I puffed vigorously trying to get a handle on the flavors. Very rich, thick smoke that starts out a little strong but mellows around the one third bowl mark. A Virginia sweetness hangs out somewhere there in the middle as the tonquin begins to fade into the background. Things got a little moist at the bottom but I attribute that to my voracious attack, the flavor is just THAT APPEALING!
The nicotine started to really kick in about half way through the bowl. Not that I minded but it was subtle as to how it snuck up on me. I had it on an empty stomach but it wasn't so much as to make me woozy.
As for the room note, this one isn't going to be a big hit with the ladies. My wife liked the smell in the tin but didn't much care for it once it was lit.
I like it, will recommend it, and am out to stock up on some more. It's a nice change from some of the heavier latakia and/or perique laced blends.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Satc001
|
04/21/2008 |
Strong
|
Mild to Medium
|
Medium
|
Tolerable
|
|
| I just can't seem to get the hang of this blend. It is very well respected in the world of pipe smokers, but for me it just doesn't work.
For starters, the tin aroma is lovely, the aroma of tonquin is quite delicious. It is rather oily and moist so I rubbed it out entirely and left it to dry. It never really does dry out, it still retains its oily texture. It is easy enough to pack, but I just can't get it to stay lit. I am personally not a fan of relighting every couple of minutes and there is nothing I have been able to do to keep this tobacco burning. That is a big mark against it for me.
The flavor is semi-sweet, with that dark fired taste in the background. I don't know what happens to the tonquin once you light it, but it disappears. Overall, I find it to be rather boring, but I also can't seem to keep it lit long enough to find out.
The other disappointment with this tobacco is that not only is it tough to keep burning, but every relight features an acrid taste that is absolutely not enjoyable. There is a fair amount of nicotine, but compared to Dark Flake by G&H and Peterson's Irish Flake, I find this pretty manageable. It is slightly stronger in nicotine content than Nightcap.
This certainly isn't a tobacco without quality and it is obviously well crafted when examining the leaf in the tin. However, I just can't find a reason to waste my time trying to enjoy this when I haven't gotten it to work for me over the course of the past month.
If you are big into the strong lakeland tobaccos created by Gawith or Gawith and Hoggarth, give this a try. If not, don't pick this tobacco to try the genre out.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
metalbone
|
04/14/2008 |
Medium
|
Very Strong
|
Overwhelming
|
Tolerable
|
|
| Ugh! I like a good natural tobacco flavor, so I don't know what possessed me to try this. All I can say is "blah!". But tastes are subjective, and if you like flavored tobaccos, this may be the ticket for you. Unfortunately, I have a full tin (minus a 1/2 bowl) of this stuff that I have no idea what to do with. Maybe I'll try leaching the tonquin out with water as a previous reviewed did...lemonade out of lemons...
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Big Jim
|
04/03/2008 |
Very Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| No amount of reading the reviews or being warned of the tin aroma can actually prepare you for this blend. There are no words that I can find that I feel accurately describe it. My first thought was that there is no way that this is going to be enjoyable to smoke. My initial thought when I light the first bowl was Kendal Cream on steroids. The tonquin dominated the Virginia and Orientals through the first half bowl then they only made a small guest appearance. Being a former cigarette smoker I very much appreciated the nicotine levels of this tobacco; it?s among the strongest that I?ve smoked. It took about half a tin for me to really appreciate this one but after that I really enjoy this as an occasional smoke. This is definitely an acquired taste but one worth well developing.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
loosewatches
|
03/26/2008 |
Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Very Full
|
Overwhelming
|
|
| Since I don't see much difference between this and Cob plug, and I've already reviewed that, I just wanted to add a few notes, without updating the other review.
I love this stuff. It is strong, smooth and creamy tasting, provided it's not too dry. The flakes are nice sometimes because they, in my experience, are perfectly cut. They're thin enough for an easy rub out, if that's your choice.
I do like the plug more because it's so pleasurable to fondle and take in all the Grand Reekiness excreted as I slice it to bits with sharp and dangerous appliance. (yes, I realize all the potential problems of that sentence).
But, here's the real real point of the review, no joke. Room Note. Every time I smoke this tobacco, in whatever form, my wife asks within ten minutes, "Who's got Stinkfoot?". Well, tonight my mother in law came in the house and asked the same question. So, be warned that 2 to one (me being the one) the roomnote smells like stinkfoot.
I might add that, to my absolute enjoyment, my daughter thinks it smells good good good. Smells good good good. She is four, and she sings this information, so it's gotta be true.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
pop-pop's pipe
|
02/24/2008 |
Medium to Strong
|
Strong
|
Medium to Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| This is the most unusual tobacco I've ever smoked! Upon opening the tin, your greeted with an odd smell like nothing I've ever smelled before. I was hesitant to try the tobacco but I said, what the heck! I lit it and you could smell the tonquin flavoring. Tonquin is a vanilla substitute and a lousy one at that! The first third of the pipe wasn't all that pleasant. Other reviewers have said this flavoring reminded them of Gallahers Rich Dark Honeydew. Well I'll make it clear, it's nothing like that! Any blend that's labled Honeydew, tastes of well....Honeydew! I kept on puffin though and the second third of the bowl changed. I tasted vanilla going in, and chocolate going out. A hint of clove semmed to peek through here and there. An opium aroma and taste was also surfacing. I wanted to put the pipe down, but for some reason I kept on smoking. The only flavor I didn't taste was tobacco! I think I should have went with the Bracken Flake or the Full Virginia. I'd much rather smoke McClelland's Black Shag or Honeydwew. As far as stregnth is concerned, I don't think this is all that strong. In fact, St. Bruno Flake is stronger and much more pleasant and sweet like raisins and prunes. Petersons Irish Flake blows this away in stregnth, taste, and aroma. I have two tins of this 1792 stuff and Im looking to get rid of them. Give me a straight up VA anyday! This stuff is terrible.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
LeGunnCat
|
02/22/2008 |
Medium to Strong
|
Medium
|
Full
|
Pleasant
|
|
| I am on the fence with this blend. Out of the tin I found it rubs out very nicely, and packs easily. It smokes a bit wet, so a short drying period wouldn't hurt. The smoke is full and creamy and when it's hot it taste quite delicious. It's the moment when it burns cool that this blend tastes a bit nasty to me. Perhaps it's the tonquin flavoring, but it tastes unnatural and contrived. Not a great experience for me. However getting this blend smoking and fairly hot produces the most delicious smoke. I just find this too much of a chore to smoke. It's not unruly and can easily be tamed in the bowl, it's just not worth the effort in my opinion.
An occasional smoke for me, but once this tin is done I won't be buying more.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Pipemanuk
|
02/14/2008 |
Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Full
|
Pleasant to Tolerable
|
|
| First of all this has the most marvellous aroma on opening the tin. Stronger than Cob Plug for sure, though to be fair that may vary from tin to tin. My dad used to smoke something that had the same tin aroma of tonquin back in the 1950s and 1960's..I have racked my brains as to what it was, but the only tobacco tin I can remember of his was Gallaghers Rich Dark Honeydew and I don't think that had tonquin in it. As an aside I'm desperate to locate a tin of that I can buy on Ebay and get back to the good old UK:-) Anyway, back to 1792; it's a full strength dark rich tobacco, one of the very finest you can smoke...full of dark creamy flavours with the tonquin giving a lucidity to the overall effect. I rate it on an equal strength to the Brown Rope though of a completely different taste. I know that the traditional "English smoke" is widely accepted in the States as being something like GLP's Westminster; but maybe I am being heretical here but in my experience of my grandfather's generation of pipe smokers...he was born in 1890 and died in 1959...and my father's generation...1914 to 1979..this type of tobacco, with no Latakia etc, is the traditional English pipesmokers type of baccy. My great, great uncle...born in 1868 was still alive when I was a lad and also smoked the same straight tobacco; so I think this phrase has grown up and been accepted as gospel with a somewhat dubious historical pedigree. 1792 is one of the traditional English tobaccos' and thank heavens that such a great house as Sam Gawith is still with us....even though their product quality (see my review of FVF) has sometimes left a lot to be desired. If you want to experience the very best of tradition, to taste the authentic pipe smoke that generations of Englishmen have enjoyed then you owe it to yourself to visit this one.
By the way, for those of you who have struggled with the tonquin, here's a tip...fill a couple of pipes with 1792 and leave them out for a day or so. When you come to smoke them you will get all the flavour of a well made baccy and the tonquin will have subsided into the gentle background.
Lastly, I share the sighs of those who try to give reasoned, helpful reviews for the benefit of fellow pipe smokers and to have to put up with folk who admit they don't like this type of blend and then give it a 1 star. This adds nothing to anyone's knowledge or appreciation. Please don't do it!
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Katxinba
|
02/04/2008 |
Strong
|
Medium
|
Medium
|
Unnoticeable
|
|
| I was very curious to find out what tonquin smelled like so, I was tempted to buy a tin. The smell , once I opened the tin , scared me at first: I cannot find a smell I could identify with ( maybe some cosmetics?). The smell is quite strong, and the fact I could end up smoking something like that ... well, I was aprehensive. The flakes wouldn't come out in flakes, but it was more like peeling off, due to the humidity in the tobacco . Leaving it dry out for 15 minutes, and after filling the pipe with the "fold and pack" system ( and allowing some room for the expansion of the tobacco), I proceeded to light it up. Hey, nothing like the stuff I smelled in the tin. This is a strong tobacco, with the hint of the tonquin/tonkin/tonga blending in the background: actually, it is very nice. It is a strong smoke, you can feel in the back of your throat : not harsh, but strong. Very nice smell and smoked nicely to the bottom, without having to relight. I like English style blends, not very fond of "aromatised" ( aka heavy casing) tobaccos, but this one is just spot on.A break from English and Balkans. Give it a try, and I hope you enjoy it as much as I did. P.S. I cannot say about room note as I smoke in a very well ventilated loft, and only me has access to it ( no second opinions about the smell).
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
ElHumidor525
|
01/15/2008 |
Medium
|
Medium to Strong
|
Very Full
|
Extra Strong
|
|
| 1792 Flake is a love it or leave it tobacco. The tonquin flavoring is very noticeable upon opening the tin. I have to admit the first time i had this i didn't like it, but it grows on you. You need to run the tobacco through the pipe a few times before the flavors begin to come out. THe first third of the bowl is a bit strong but mellows out toward the second third. Notes of licorice and a gentle harshness noted. When you get right to the middle of the bowl it goes from harsh to a very smooth and begins to taste similar to a VA flake. The tonquin really begins to stand out here. The last third is just the same at the second third, but my pipe begins to get wet here, most likely because the pipe is lodged into my teeth. I recommend smoking this tobacco slowly and in a pot. Very well worth trying.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Steerpike
|
01/01/2008 |
Extremely Strong
|
Medium
|
Full
|
Pleasant to Tolerable
|
|
| I had this tin for a year before I dared open it, having read the reviews on this site. I only wonder why I waited! It's lovely stuff!
Smells sweet and tobaccoey in the tin, a very rich, strong smelling baccy, but with an unusal vanilla/liquorice aroma that is very pleasant, and not AT ALL sickly. This tonquin is vanilla for real men, a world apart from the sticky, saccharin aromatics.
The flakes are dark, oily and stringy, fairly moist, and irregular, cut quite thin. It rubs into a stringy mass that takes a knack to fill a pipe with. It lights with two matches, no difficulty, but it doesn't invite the flame onto it as some do.
The flavour is rich, very full, but IMMENSELY smooth. Like velvet. There's a sweetish taste that hovers in the background, but most of the flavour is an honest, rich tobaccoey taste. There is NO tongue bite, it would be impossible to produce it, and it has none of the harshness I've found in the twists.
It smokes much the same all through the bowl, the aromatic notse dwindling, but the sweetness of the leaf building toward the end, and the smoke getting steadily richer. Then you notice that it is incredibly strong... Good job I chose a small pipe.
Something to have after a hearty meal I think- a stew with dumplings, or lancashire hotpot. Or as an after breakfast smoke, after a full english with black puddings. Have a strong cup of tea with this, anything else will be drowned out by the flavour of the baccy. A pint of a fairly rich ale might go well with it too.
Good stuff, don't be afraid of it, just choose a smallish pipe and don't smoke it on an empty stomach.
--------------------------Update----------------------------------
I've smoked a lot more of this now, and have thoroughly enjoyed every bowl. It is strong, yes, but has never made me feel at all queasy, so it's no blend to be afraid of. It seems to be well appreciated for it's aroma by several friends who don't like the smell of the sweetest aromatic tobaccos, and various cigarettes smokers who have tried it out of curiosity have gone away muttering about having to get themselves a pipe!
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
smokinj
|
12/13/2007 |
Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Full
|
Tolerable to Strong
|
|
| I find it hard to believe this is sammy best Selling!
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
dallaspipehead
|
11/19/2007 |
Strong
|
Strong
|
Full
|
Very Pleasant
|
|
| This flake is a must have for all serious collectors of pipe tobacco. Among the hundreds of different types I own, this one stands out and demands to be noticed. The mere heritage behind it commands awe and respect. To think that this recipe and process remain unchanged for over 200 years is quite an amazing thing in itself. The Gawith history is what drew me to this brand in the first place. As a marvel of antiquity, its staying power is unquestionable. It stood the test of time. From a period in which a great many tobaccos were rumored to have modeled themselves after this legend, only it survives. 1792 was to be my first experience with a tonka bean flavored flake. Upon the tins first opening, I could only sum up the fragrance explosion with two words: Holy crap! It was unlike anything I had ever smelled before. I was intrigued. I had nothing to compare it to, and after the eventual trying of its relative blends(Cob Plug and Bracken Flake)I am still at a loss as to what other blenders might offer in the way of these unusual creations. I was intimidated at first. I cautiously rubbed a flake out, not knowing what to expect. After stuffing a Bjarne billiard with the age old oddity, I found it surprisingly easy to light and keep lit. I held back from drawing full puffs at the beginning, for fear that I might be sent reeling. Remembering my pipefulls of Gawith's Brown Rope, I waited in anticipation of a similar nicotine butt-kicking. It never came. The scent was mystical and the flavor, alluring. It was as though there were some manor of opiates involved in its concoction. I tried to set it down, but I was drawn back again and again like a mindless moth to a flame. Ever since then it has left me with an insatiable desire for more. I have cellared quite a bit, but I dare to think it will never be enough. It is all too clear to me now, how 1792 developed its inexhaustible popularity. 4 stars can't even begin to describe the quality. If you don't have some already, go grab a tin and get hooked. You'll be forever altered.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
tobaccoman
|
10/27/2007 |
Medium to Strong
|
Mild to Medium
|
Medium to Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| I bought a tin locally about 6 months ago... Had a bowl, noticed the "in your face" aroma when i opened the tin, didnt finish the bowl and was absolutely disgusted the next day when i tried to relight. In that 6 months the wide flakes are still somewhat moist and benefited greatly from additional drying time. The aroma while still noticable has dissapated greatly and the "floral" taste while still showing up occasionally mingles much better with the other flavors in the bowl without killing them. I liked it.. I will give it some more time and probally buy a few tins to shelf until i can commit to it fully and then celler some pounds if it all works out
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Jackson
|
10/08/2007 |
Medium
|
Medium to Strong
|
Full
|
Pleasant to Tolerable
|
|
| A freshly opened tin of this blend brings a rather nasty aroma to the nose. But load a favorite pipe with a lightly rubbed charge of 1792 Dark Kendal Flake and you are in for a wonderful smoke. Your palate is treated to marvelously rich and complex flavors. The tobacco is easy to smoke right through, with a minimum or relighting. This is a tobacco that I want available for my use at any time of day. It is a great pick me up for morning and a grand goodnight caress at the end of the day.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Uban
|
09/16/2007 |
Strong
|
Strong
|
Medium
|
Tolerable
|
|
| Who said 'no casing?' This stuff REEKS of artificial chocolate-mint flavor goop on opening. I tried it straight from the can & couldn't get 1/2 way through. Opened the can for a week & let it dry to toast-like consistency and found it much less 'aromatic.' Altogether a better mild, one-dimensional but cool-smoking flake. I hesitate to call it a Va because it lacks the sweetness or freshness I am used to in such flakes. Being cheap, I will probably smoke it now that the phony candy aroma is gone, but cannot recommend.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
BriarFire~
|
09/13/2007 |
Strong
|
Very Strong
|
Full
|
Strong
|
|
| 08/31/07 This 200 year old blend from the fine folks at Samuel Gawith sure does smell odd in the tin and you better believe it tastes just as odd as it smells.I was hoping the Tonquin would burn off so I could get a better taste of the tobacco,but no such luck.
The dark flakes are very moist and I cant seem to get it into a dry enough state to light easily,and the amount of relights it takes to keep this burning is not worth the effort.Not as strong as the various ropes or Irish flake,but still a potent smoke.
So I apologize to all of the 1792 fanatics,but I personaly cannot tolerate the Tonquin smell left on my fingers after handling this product,and I would rather smoke tobacco than Tonquin.
*** update*** 09/13/07 Not wanting to waste the remaining tins of 1792 I have,I decieded to experiment a little.I rinsed the said flakes briefly in the wifes colander under hot water turning each flake once,placed on paper towels and dried in full sun.This created a wonderful smoke still 1792'ish but for me much more tasty and smokeable.
The flakes now light and stay lit easily,the flavor is still peppery and full bodied and the best part the Tonquin essence is now more in the background instead of dominating the smoke.
I'll be finishing these tins now after this "cleansing" process and would now give 1792 at least 3 stars,but its something I wouldnt go out of my way to do again.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
HoopleHead
|
07/24/2007 |
Very Strong
|
Medium
|
Very Full
|
Tolerable to Strong
|
|
| You spin me right round baby right round like a record baby right round round round?..
I ordered a tin of 1792 simply to top off a SP.com* order to hit the free shipping minimum. I like to order my bulks and then at least one new thing to try each time. Selected simply by the ingredient listing on this site and the overall rating, without reading the reviews. It sat around for a couple of months waiting for me to crave something new and the craving hit me this morning? 11am, empty stomach? on a break from a task requiring multiple trips up and down a ladder?. Oh my !! Shoulda read the reviews first, Ed!
But I love this strange taste? this is my first non-latakia English-Oriental blend, and I?m slowly moving away from latakias. Initial tin scent hit me as licorice-like (I was hungry remember) and though it took many lights to get things rolling, roll they did.
Guess the rest of that job can wait until this afternoon? whooopeeee! I love this stuff!
Good pleasure/price ratio, smooth gentle draw, no bite whatsoever and it defers quite well if allowed to sit and go out for a few minutes. But do eat first!
From Utopia, TX? hava goodun!
*top kudos for smokingpipes.com for consistent quick shipping and precise orders, never once delayed or shipped short because of inventory problems.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
SmoothSmoker
|
07/08/2007 |
Extremely Strong
|
Very Mild
|
Very Full
|
Strong
|
|
| SG 1792 Flake is full-bodied and POWERFUL! It actually tastes like "tobacco" instead of candy or potpourri. No detectable casing.The nicotine kick that others report is real.
You will want to dry this in the sun for about five (5) minutes or 30-40 minutes indoors before attempting to light. If left in flake form instead of rolling out, you will have no problem lighting and keeping it lit.
If you like this, but it is not quite right or perhaps smooth enough, try Peterson Irish Flake instead. Everything good about the SG 1792 flake is even better in the Peterson Irish Flake, which I think is the world's best pure tobacco-flavored flake.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Holy Smoke
|
07/06/2007 |
Strong
|
Medium
|
Medium to Full
|
Pleasant
|
|
| Mmm bliss! This is one tobacco that you can easily get yourself lost in.
Sadly it does take some effort to get it into a fit state to smoke.
I've found that when it's fresh from the tin, 1792 requires a whole box of matches and a selection of pipe cleaners tackle its moistness. Being very moist and the thickest cut I've come across in a long time isn't the best combination for the impatient smoker. Although, once it's been left open overnight it becomes much easier to handle. Though it does loose a lot of the tonquin casing.
When first opened, it smells and tastes like a chocolate flavoured cereal. Luckily, when it has been thoroughly aired, this characteristic fades and its medicinal nature begins to shine.
If you enjoy strong flakes -like Peterson's Irish- and want a lighter break from the fruity and floral, then this is a tobacco for you.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Ol'BlueSmoke
|
06/27/2007 |
Very Strong
|
Medium
|
Medium
|
Strong
|
|
| Looked intriguing in the tin....smelled like something I have not yet encountered...still intriguing.
Wet and very dark...sticky and oily.
Packed well...a little tight...my fault.
Hard to light...but still too moist...could benefit from some drying.
The flavor....sorry to all you 1792 fans but...YUCK!!! It tastes medicinal...I'd swear its laced with camphor..good for my lip balm...not for my palate.
I had bought a cob pipe for $5.25 in case I didnt like this and did not want to corrupt my briar pipes.....I'm glad I did so....I don't like this.
No real overwhelming buzz from the nicotine, but to be fair I didn't burn this bowl more than one half down...it just tasted too badly to me....so I abandoned it...I threw away the tin since I dont have any close friends who smoke.
I think that one fella summed it up well...you either like this or you don't...I dont.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
opus10
|
06/24/2007 |
Medium to Strong
|
Medium
|
Medium to Full
|
Pleasant to Tolerable
|
|
| Just a brief addition to the many interesting comments.....
Smells and tastes are notoriously difficult to classify, so I won't try too hard. Tonquin, doubtless like many other aromatics, strikes a positive note with some and not with other tasters; I'm one of those people who like the aroma. Likening it to the smell of rotting garbage may have been fun to write, but it really didn't help me (but I must say I did enjoy the anticipation of getting my hands on such a notorious tobak...)
I took the plunge and bought half a pound - anything that arouses such passions has to have something to commend it! My package arrived, but the flakes were surely too dry - almost crumbly. Certainly not the wet slices I'd read about. Nonetheless, I lost no time in rubbing out a hapless flake, filled pipe, applied light, and....was surprised to be somewhat underwhelmed. Strong enough to keep me interested, sure, but a little one-dimensional, and a wee bit hard to keep evenly burning (never a problem with Irish Flake, or SG's Brown or Black plugs). A few pipes later, I still was less than ecstatic.
I believe that I came up with a rather effective solution, although it might be specifically effective for me given that I tend to smoke slightly smaller pipes (Group 4's and 3's). I re-hydrated the tobacco the old fashioned way: with pieces of cut-up apple, and left the 1492 for about 3 days to see what happened. Well, as you might expect, the tobak took on a very faint apple hint, but now it felt right; pliable, and somehow more organic. This made the rubbing out much easier - I now believe this flake behaves best when very fully rubbed out. Result - Heaven! Delicious, slow burning, cool, satisfying, one pipeful leaving me wanting another.
A marvelous tobacco, not for the inexperienced no doubt, but full of rewards if treated properly. Highly recommended!
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
SApipe
|
06/20/2007 |
Very Strong
|
None detected
|
Medium
|
Tolerable
|
|
| Whoa! This is some strong nicotine content....not for the timid! I can only handle about 1 bowl, but it is an excellent dark flake of pure unadulterated tabac. I detect no artificial flavoring, but it is loaded with full natural tobacco taste. Being a non-aromatic, the room note is not as pleasing to bystanders, but is still tolerable. It loads easily by bending a chunk of flakes in half and stuffing them in the pipe with some sprinkles on top and gives a complete burn. It's too strong for me to smoke while doing any chores, etc (not an all day smoke). It also has a tendency to irritate my throat. I'll give it 3-stars.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
tacoeatingzebra
|
05/21/2007 |
Very Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Very Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| I am on my second tin and the only thing I can say is that sometimes this one hits the spot and then other times I want to dump it soon after it is lit. The nicotine is not overwhelming to me, but then again, I am also a cigarette smoker.
The one thing that is consistant is that this stuff seems to always stay cool. When I do smoke it, I find it enjoyable to produce copious amounts of smoke. Most blends I sip, but this one I go at with a little more verve. It is good with a cup of coffee with a splash of Jameson whiskey or Kahlua.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Big bad Jon
|
05/21/2007 |
Very Strong
|
Very Mild
|
Mild to Medium
|
Tolerable
|
|
| Mild enough to smoke first thing in the morning, but there is enough nicotine that your stomach needs the steak and eggs first. I feel that like old Iron sides from CAO it smokes cool, but don?t be deceived if you smoke it fast you will get a head rush. I prefer a bit less of a kick even thou I am a recovering cigarette smoker, but the mild taste keeps me coming back for more. It has a slight peppery and nutty taste more maybe earthy but it is mild and the smoke comes out like silk.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
WmZiggy
|
05/12/2007 |
Very Strong
|
Mild
|
Medium to Full
|
Pleasant
|
|
| Although I considered myself an exprienced smoker of flake tobaccos, I had put my pipes away for many years smoking only cigars. However I missed the range of flavors available via the pipe, as well as handling the many briars and meerschaums I accumulated in the 70's and 80's. This was one of the first tobaccos I tried when I picked up my pipes again and I was at overwhelmed by it's strength. I smoked in a large billard meerschaum (a Paul Fisher) and several smaller briar pipes.
I love the look and feel of this flake and it's aroma in the tin. After my first smoke, I let it dry out for a day and tried it again. It begins very peppery, but settles into a range of nutty flavors. It burns cool and to a white/grey ash. But it is a powerhouse, and gave me thoughts of dropping it from any rotation of blends.
Then it dawned on me to do a little "aftermarket blending." McClelland's Dominican Glory is a rather bland blend in a ribbon cut I thought would mix well with this flake. Rubbing out 1792 and mixing it 50/50 with Dominican Glory produced what I was looking for -- a mild to medium smoke that knocked the power of 1792 down, but imporved the taste of Dominican Glory. This was also a great solution for the several tins of McClellands I had sitting around.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Moe
|
05/06/2007 |
Medium
|
Medium
|
Medium to Full
|
Strong
|
|
| This is a nice aromatic, and one of only a few I like. It contains enough nicotine to make it worth smoking. And its mild on the mouth. I reach for it probably once a week. I will say the room note is not too great. Kinda cigar like. Though it has no cigar flavor.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
geddeeee
|
05/01/2007 |
Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| I'm a relatively new pipe smoker. 2 months now. I've read a lot about SG's 1792 Flake, so I decided to take the plunge. I love this tobacco! A very cool smoke. The taste is quite peppery in the first half of the bowl and then it settles down to a wonderful full smoke. I've heard comments about nicotine content. I find this quite light, nicotine wise. Peterson Irish Flake is a lot stronger in my opinion. Nevertheless, if any pipe smokers out there haven't tried this blend, I would recommend that you do. The tonquin flavour in my tin was perfect, not overpowering at all. And the moisture level was perfect too. I still dried a bit out for about 15 mins, just to make sure. All in all highly recommended. This and Petersons Irish Flake are my fav smokes to date. Strong and fulfilling. I will definitely be purchasing this flake again. A big 5 stars!!!!!
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Joey
|
05/01/2007 |
Very Strong
|
Medium
|
Medium to Full
|
Pleasant to Tolerable
|
|
| I was in Lincoln NE when I stopped in a pipe shop that I like and was talking to the owner, Ted, when he recommended that I try some other SG offerings since I liked the XX black rope so much. So, I picked up an ounce of this bacca. I went to lunch, a big one I might add, and on the way back to where I was staying decided to try it out...big mistake...
I stuffed a Pete 307 full and lit her up. The flavor was wonderful. It was a little bit peppery at first and then as I got about half way into the bowl it really mellowed out into the rich sweet virginia tobacco flavor. Very nice...
The mistake was that it was so strong that I had to pull my F-250 over on the side of the road and sit for more than a minute! I was seriously not in a condition to operate a motor vehicle! And no, I had no adult type beverages with my lunch. I have smoked it a couple of times since and can say without inhibition that it is indeed a strong one.
It burned clean to the bottom with only white greyish ash left behind and almost no moisture. I do like this blend a great deal, not as much as UF, but a lot. But you must eat first or it will knock you silly...in my humble opinion! It makes for a great smoke at the end of a long day...like today!
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
The_Rover
|
04/19/2007 |
Very Strong
|
Strong
|
Medium to Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| On my second tin of 1792 I decided to mix it with SG Medium virginia flake due to the strength of 1792. The result is that 1792 now tastes better and smells better! As has been noted many times this is a strong smoke. For me at least, mixing it down with a milder virginia has led to a most excellent smoking experience. This is one flake that everyone must try, straight or not.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
ajaj
|
04/08/2007 |
Medium to Strong
|
Very Mild
|
Medium
|
Very Strong
|
|
| Update: My first review ~2002. I have since bought several newer tins and I believe the quality has increased dramatically. I recall several bad batches during that 2000-2002 timframe. This stuff is really good today. Yes, the emperor is naked, smelly, and wonderful!
2002: My "desert island" smoke, my holy grail of tobaccos. This is the only tobacco I purchase by the pound. 1792 is simply amazing; very mild with a strong earthy flavor. You see, I'm not a lover of latakia or aromatics; just honest to goodness real tobacco flavor...and this is what 1792 delivers. The base taste is very similar to Brown Rope #4 but the tonquin bean additive mellows the earthen flavors, yet adds a unique aroma to the experience. When I smoke 1792 in large Oom Pauls, the overall smoke is very mild, however, small well-caked bowls seem to awake it into a sharper more pleasant smoke. You may keep your raspberry-vanilla-mocha-chocolate-cherry-flavored tobacs, 1792 is real and a classic. Thank you SG.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
drewfasa
|
04/08/2007 |
Very Strong
|
Strong
|
Very Full
|
Overwhelming
|
|
| I tried this because of overpowering curiosity, as many others no doubt have done and will continue to do. The tobacco itself has the sickly sweet smell of old garbage, or a landfill. Seriously, it actually smells like garbage - old, fermenting garbage. I tried the flake both folded and rubbed out to give it a good chance, but both tasted roughly similar. The taste was, to be honest, boring and yucky at once. The smell however (of the lit tobacco), was honestly one of the most unpleasant aromas I've ever experienced. It was smelt worse than dog doo. It was the sort of smell that is so bad you find yourself smelling it again, because it is so unusually pungent and awful. I seriously can't believe anyone likes this tobacco, and I find myself wondering if the people at Samuel Gawith are actually pressing their rubbish into flake and selling it as a premium tobacco. I declare that the emperor has no clothes; worse actually, he has no clothes and really, really needs a bath.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Brahms
|
04/05/2007 |
Strong
|
Mild to Medium
|
Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| I'm a newbie, and only smoke a couple of times a week now, so I expected to be overwhelmed and put off by this tobacco, but that is not my experience. I rather like it.
I've smoked it twice now, both times in a small cob, sitting outside watching the sunset, and it was a pleasant experience both times. The first time was after a meal, and today on an empty stomach. The nicotine was definitly there, and for a few seconds both times I was aware of a slight queaziness in the stomach, but it wasn't severe or prolonged.
I love the presentation, and the tin aroma is rich and delightful. Rubbed out, it burns fairly well even without much drying, and once it gets going it produces copious smoke and requires little effort to stay lit. Whatever it is about the tonquin that upsets others doesn't seem to bother me at all. At various times there is a slight peppery feeling on the tongue, and occasionally a strange irritation/taste way at the back of the tongue - otherwise it's smooth and rich tasting. It was easy to burn down to a grey ash. It left my mouth feeling fine.
So, not my favorite, but fairly satisfying and pleasant, at times even fairly contemplative. I'll try it again from time to time. I recommend other newbies not be automatically put off by the reviews below: it's worth a try.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
haredawg
|
03/24/2007 |
Strong
|
Mild
|
Full
|
Pleasant to Tolerable
|
|
| A few months ago I tossed all my aromatic blends and have borne no regret since. I still picked up a tin of 1792 knowing it had the tonquin flavoring to it. I?m a sucker for Sammy G blends and for tobacco listed on this web site as strong with the nicotine hit. I don?t have any fancy words for ya, ain?t fixing to wax rhapsodic. I liked it. The tin aroma that many here have suggested as yucky (a composite tally and condensed word) I actually found enjoyable, sweet, hay like with a vanilla overtone. This stuff smokes like a solid Virginia flake with a hint of vanilla that is nowhere near as obnoxious tasting as it sounds. I?ve only smoked it in an old Parker Meerschaum so far as it took a lot of work to get aromatic flavors out of my favorite briars, so I?m not sure what pipes this stuff loves. I?m going to wait and see if anything untoward lingers in the meerschaum. For now I give this stuff three stars and an asteroid.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Camus
|
02/14/2007 |
Extremely Strong
|
Strong
|
Very Full
|
Very Strong
|
|
| I tried 1792 at an informal pipe club I have with a couple of friends. We accompanied it with some Islay scotch.
No one spoke for a very long time. As I looked up we were all grinning madly.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Russell
|
02/14/2007 |
Overwhelming
|
Extra Strong
|
Overwhelming
|
Overwhelming
|
|
| This is horrendous. I must agree with the other reviewers who gave this one the electronic finger. I'll admit I have a sensitive nose and tastebuds, even though I do enjoy the spiciest of foods.
This is what I'd imagine would result if one were to take rancid refried beans, sweet woodruff, overly spiced eggnog, and cardboard, throw them in a blender and dry the vile mixture in a used litter box doused in pine-sol.
Considering you can get past the *odor* emanating from the tin, have the courage to touch it with your bare hands, and load it in a pipe, you are in for a nightmare.
Totally disgusting.
Zero stars.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
VAman
|
02/04/2007 |
Overwhelming
|
None detected
|
Very Full
|
Very Strong
|
|
| I must advise caution. this stuff will lay low the mighty if smoked from a large bowl.Mid-bowl there developes an exuisite, spicy flavor boquet, sip this smoke very gently,and from a smaller pipe. I smoked '92 in my largest Nording,oops, so i did expieraince pounding heart, weak knees and some cold sweats, the cure for this is to get up and sprint around the block a few times. Tin smell is much like roofing tar, and when first lit is a bit rough, ounce you get past that you are in for a unique smoking expieriance, a must try for the flake lover.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
The Tobacco Man from Outer Mongolia
|
02/01/2007 |
Strong
|
Strong
|
Very Full
|
Very Pleasant
|
|
| When I smoke this heanenly tobacco I recall how it was the saviour of my pipe smoking career. Having spent a long time smoking Camels before taking up the pipe, I spent years looking for a tobacco which I could smoke all day, with no tongue bite and which satisfied my craving for a top quality virginia tobacco.
Here is my saviour, just as delightfula tobacco as can be had anywhere.
This is my Desert Island tobacco. I would not care if every other pipe tobacco were to be discontinued as long as this 'Nectar of the Gods' is around.
One of the only tobaccos I buy in bulk for cellaring like the finest of wines.
Not for everyones taste especially for the candy store tobacco wimps.
God bless 1792 True Manna from Heaven. 5 Stars out of four!
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Sasquatch
|
12/09/2006 |
Extremely Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Medium to Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| I'm reviewing this just for fun. I think every piper needs to try it.
On the plus side of 1792 is the fun history of the thing. The presentation (think: tin of side-bacon strips) is great, the flake is beautiful. This is probably the coolest smoking tobacco around... you can literally smoke a bowl of this without heating a pipe up at ALL, if you are careful.
On the down side (for me) is that tonquin is completely disgusting, and this stuff is soaked in it. Couple that with a huge smash of nicotine, and you've got your body conditioned to feel woozy and sick at the faintest smell of tonquin. Really Pavlovian.
I can't stand to smoke this stuff, but I LOVE it, and I LOVE that it exists. I'm hoping that my Irish Flake allows me to return to the realm of manly tobak, but at this stage, I just don't know.
Get a tin, have some fun. Make sure you eat before you smoke.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
JonnySokko
|
11/30/2006 |
Overwhelming
|
Very Strong
|
Overwhelming
|
Tolerable to Strong
|
|
| I too was drawn in by the nostalgia of smoking a 200 year old style tobacco. Let me tell you, if this were the first tobacco I tried, I would have never continued smoking a pipe. I always get excited opening a new tin, taking the first whiff and then packing the bowl. It reminds me of the excitement I had as a kid when getting a new album. Tell me you didn't smell the record when you first pulled it out of the package. Anyway, from the first smell, I suspected there was a problem. Tonquin is to vanilla as carob is to chocolate. They are horribly different. Regardless of the sickly sweet smell, I continued to pack and light the bowl. After about five minutes I began to feel horrible. It felt like I was being poisoned. I had to lay down and relax until it wore off. Just thinking of the smell and taste makes me queasy. It wasn't until after my traumatic experience that I read the reviews warning me of the ill effects this tobacco might cause. All of you gents that gave this 3 or 4 stars must be tough old devils. I have read that if you let the tin dry it will make it much better. Since I am a glutton for punishment, I am going to try this method and give it another whirl, but if it fails me again, I will burn it in the back yard fire pit!!! Maybe Napoleon was smoking this stuff while brewing up his plans for world domination.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Ben Rich
|
11/13/2006 |
Medium to Strong
|
Mild to Medium
|
Full
|
Pleasant
|
|
| I have never found 1792 to be as powerful (nicotine-wise) as some have found it. Nor do I find that the tonquin flavor puts me out, in fact, I very much enjoy it. I have tried this blend in a merschaum, in a corn cob and in a Peterson 314 System pipe. It behaves about the same in each, though the Pete apparently provides enough of a bowl for 1792 to fully develop, and this tobacco develops better in a larger bowl than that of a typical corn cob. It is a mellow tobacco, and in smoking it, apart from the tonquin I am also able to get occasional flavors which remind me of how clover smells - quite sweet and light. There are other flavors which vaguely remind me of prunes, dates, dried apricots and figs... it is not a boring smoke, though to enjoy it fully it should be smoked quite slowly. Smoking it slowly is easily done if the flakes are well rubbed and the tobacco is then lightly packed - much like you would pack some of the larger cut Balkan type blends. I don't find myself smoking 1792 on a real regular basis, but there are specific times when only 1792 will do... for instance, when I have a head cold and want something which will free up my sinuses. I always have a tin or two of this tucked away in the back of one of the four drawers I use as my baccy cellar. If this tobacco was a person, it would be Lucius Cornelius Sulla, Dictator of Republican Rome - "No worse enemy, no better friend." It is worth trying and, in my opinion, very much worth smoking... treat it as it should and it will be a treat.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Philo Beddoe
|
10/15/2006 |
Medium to Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Extra Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| I was prepared to be floored by the nicotine level in this blend, but I found it to be lighter than Nightcap, and much lighter than Hal O' the Wynd, which is the strongest blend as far as nicotine kick, I have tried thusfar.
As for the tonquin flavor, the best I can describe it would be to put garbanzo beans in your pipe and smoke them. Not horrible, but I won't ever smoke this blend again, if this intriques you, by all means give it a try, but it failed to hook me in.
No other tobacco I have ever tried has tasted like this, so it may be worth a try just for that reason, just don't be too worried about the massive nicotine kick, as I feel this to be a reasonable amount for most people to handle.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
kylepoet
|
07/19/2006 |
Strong
|
Mild to Medium
|
Full
|
Pleasant to Tolerable
|
|
| It's taken a little time for '1792' to cozy up and make itself at home. Admittedly, I smoked my first pipe of this about a month, month and a half ago, and I wasn't sure at that point where this flake would take me. Since then, we've become more than nodding acquanitances, and the beginning of a friendship has started.
I don't find tonquin overwhelming or unbearable. Aye, this blend is a wee bit strong at the start, but at the quarter-mile, it's a delight. It stays that way until the finish; it gives a rich smoke, pleasant taste, and an aroma that's like well-turned earth and new-cut grass on a late spring day. Good stuff.
Try to dry this out just a touch before packing and lighting. It does come moist. I like it moister than drier, though. It just seems to me to be a little easier to pack and more flavorful as I smoke it. I can live with relights. If it dries out too much, though, I feel it becomes much too brassy. I try to keep a tight seal on my jars with '1792.'
I can't give this four stars, because I don't see myself smoking this on a regular basis, like I do SG's 'Full Virginia Flake.' '1792' is a favorite, eccentric uncle who visits for a weekend, every couple of months, instead of the steady mate you sit at a bar with after work. Both are great to have in your life, but you look forward a bit to the occasional visitor, and the rich experience you've come to expect, a little more than the good friend you pal about with.
Ende
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
trevert
|
05/05/2006 |
Medium to Strong
|
Strong
|
Very Full
|
Pleasant
|
|
| My favorite tobacco for the past six years. However, like fine wines, it has its seasons and shifts in quality. A few years ago, a very large bad batch of it hit the US, and I had several tins that were markedly off in flavor from the older, sweeter tobacco. Fortunately, this appears to have been a temporary glitch and today it is as excellent as ever. It has a curious mating with my body chemistry in that this is one of the very, very few tobaccos that I can smoke for bowl after bowl with no bite. It is strong stuff, and can easily knock the uninitiated for a loop, especially if smoked on an empty stomach. The rich tonquin flavoring makes it one of a kind. Anyone who enjoys this blend is also encouraged to try Bracken Flake, a sweeter, more aromatic blend that shares some familial qualities with 1792.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
thedstnguishdgntlmn
|
04/11/2006 |
Strong
|
Mild to Medium
|
Extra Full
|
Very Pleasant
|
|
| I am guilty of coining the phrase "Stonehaven on Crack",but alas, it fits. Very potent and very delicious. A much grassier Stonehaven. Rest while smoking it. Tonquin is not like deer tongue or vanilla. Do not expect a sweet mixture. Very flavorful! 3 of 4 stars
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
emmbee
|
04/10/2006 |
Extremely Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Extra Full
|
Very Pleasant
|
|
| Read the blending notes above for how this magnificent flake is processed. It sounds more as if a baking or kilning takes place than a stoved tobacco process. I never tried anything with tonquin, and in fact, never heard of it until now. A friend of mine who reviews here says this is Esoterica's 'Stonehaven' on crack. It's deep and dark with pronounced notes of black cherry and roasted ember. In the tin it's grassy with faint aromas of wet wool and manure. I don't only taste this in the mouth but in the pores. I can feel its ethereal vapors. Be careful how you smoke it; I don't recommend driving or walking. Also watch that it doesn't creep up and start choking you. Plugs tend to close my throat like that. Sit down or recline after a nice meal when you're feeling laid back. I wouldn't want to try this while agitated and full of caffeine and wandering thoughts. This tobacco requires ones complete devotion. It's truly a great, almost mystical smoke. Nothing quite like it in all the world and produced by probably the last great blending house in England. Not for the faint of heart by any means but well worth experiencing at least once by every serious devotee of tobacciana.
Four of five stars
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
NapaWineLover
|
03/15/2006 |
Medium to Strong
|
Mild to Medium
|
Medium to Full
|
Very Pleasant
|
|
| This is an update and a downgrading from a previously Highly recommended review - in September of 2005
I found the latest iteration of 1792 Flake to be far off the quality mark. The tobacco was stuffed in the tins and the flakes were not at all uniform. I was totally disappointed in the manner in which this was packaged.
As far as quality - it's downgraded too. It was as though someone rushed to get this out the door. This is not a tobacco (in my opinion) that should be smoked without at least some moderate age on the tin. One would expect that when it's purchased it's ready to smoke, and I don't believe that to be the case here. I'll leave the sloppily manufactured tins I have in seclusion and visit them again sometime next year. In the meantime I'll be very harsh with my review based on the departure from quality that SG displayed in this batch.
VC
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
BEN
|
03/15/2006 |
Overwhelming
|
Very Strong
|
Overwhelming
|
Extra Strong
|
|
| I tried this a while back and actually after puffing on this (gently!) for about 20 minutes I got the cold sweats,the shakes and actually threw up before feeling better..all of which took several hours to pass! I am a huge fan of full flavored, latakia based tobaccos and love a good "kick".....but this tobacco is flat out dangerous, not to mention disgusting with it's Tonquin flavoring. If given a choice between this and mixture no. 79, I would smoke 79!!!!!!!!!!
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Hemlock
|
03/01/2006 |
Extremely Strong
|
None detected
|
Extra Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| Rare amongst tobaccos. It has merits on its own. A tobacco for the men among men. Not for every day. Not for bystanders. A must try, but not a must-love. You are just as worthy to love it or to hate it. Earthy, musty, meaty and very dry. Once in a blue moon for me, and recommended with the same frequency to those with a passion for the briar and the leaf we stuff it with. If you smoke this as your primary blend, you are one tough piper....
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Zone Smoke
|
12/31/2005 |
Overwhelming
|
None detected
|
Overwhelming
|
Overwhelming
|
|
| Putrid is the only word I could find to adequately describe this blend.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Meerschaum Man
|
12/18/2005 |
Strong
|
Strong
|
Very Full
|
Tolerable to Strong
|
|
| Perhaps I should not be reviewing this vile incarnation. I strongly favor other SG blends so I thought this one would be to my liking as well, but I was wrong... I believe in giving things a chance but my first impressions were correct - something along the way of a stale, overly perfumed tea whose best fate was to be returned to the earth by way of an efficent composter.
Meerschaum Man Smoking an Andrea Bauer Smooth Bent Panel
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Pipepundit
|
12/16/2005 |
Strong
|
Strong
|
Very Full
|
Pleasant to Tolerable
|
|
| Like caviar, like durian (a South-East Asian fruit with a detestable smell but delectable taste), like strong spirits and like tobacco itself, 1792 Flake is an acquired taste. But once acquired, the taste is a great reward. It does take determination to get past the smell, but the room-note is surprisingly pleasant and the tobacco impeccable in every way. I have smoked it at all times of the day in all seasons, and enjoyed it the most on bitterly cold evenings with a bright fire, a whisky and a thriller for company.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
kilted1
|
12/02/2005 |
Strong
|
Medium
|
Full
|
Pleasant
|
|
| There is a story behind my experience with this Classic Flake. It took several attempts with it to get to where I could finish a bowl. I first sampled a bowl offered by a friend and could not get past the strong tonquin flavoring. I then some months later purchased a tin and smoked several bowls with very mixed results. I gave the remains of the tin away to a friend who enjoys it. Some months later having read many reviews and people talking about it's sublime nature on various forums decided to give it another try. I figured anything that has been in continuous production since 1792 just has to be good, and I'm just missing it. I talked with people who smoked it and enjoyed it asking advice on how to enjoy it myself.
Appearance: A mostly black with some brown and tan mottling leathery flake of varying thickness.
Tin aroma: The first thing that is apparent when opening a tin of 1792 Flake is that it is fairly heavily scented. Tonquin is a scent like no other and not easily confused with anything else. It is fairly sweet and vanilla like but has other deeper and more mysterious properties. The Deeply steamed and pressed Virginia underneath the tonquin is evident in abundance. The over-all smell is rich, sweet almost hay-like with other smells of post and paddock. It reminds me of horse stalls which while not particularly appealing, accurately describe this strong and flavorful tobacco for me.
This tobacco seems too moist to me, and after my first bowl I decided to air it for at least ½ hour before smoking another bowl. The first bowl smoked pretty dry, though a little steamy, the airing out helps tremendously with this one. I have increased the time to a full hour for this review smoke. As with most flake tobaccos I simply take several flakes together, fold them in half and insert them length-wise into the bowl trimming off the excess. I find it has a much better burn this way and makes for a long enjoyable smoke.
For this review, I've chosen an Edward's Husky Canadian which is dedicated to scented flakes.
A first light is brings billows of rich white smoke, followed with a brief visit of the tamper and then a tamping light. The tonquin is immediately there and while a bit odd at first becomes a nice compliment to the fine quality leaf underneath. It is immediately sweet and rich and dominates all other flavors. This tonquin dominance will eventually fade but for the first 1/3 of the bowl it drones on in ever deepening swirls of thick rich smoke.
Mid Bowl: Approaching mid-bowl, the fullness tends to build and deepen. It seems odd to say this but the flavors widen as well. Mid-bowl finds 1792 opening up and really beginning to sing, though not as with other Virginia mixtures. The tonquin begins to fade while a rich earthy Virginia character builds in intensity and strength. This is the portion of the bowl that separates the men from the boys! The tonquin sweetness drones on as flavors emerge that no other Virginia mixture even come close too. Rich and velvety clouds of thick tangy smoke exhaled nasally tingle in the nose. Deep tones of raisin, fig and spiced fruits are evident. A resonance of hay or grasses is there too with deep forest and leather tones. There are rich mildly astringent flavors that remind me of Orientals which I know to be absent in this mixture.
Home Stretch: As end of the bowl approaches, I find that it becomes more intense though never overpoweringly so. What begins to emerge are tones so deep and rich as to defy description. Cigar-like qualities enter in and mingle with the spiced fruit and sweetness of tonquin. I find during the final third that cutting my puffing cadence by 2/3 is quiet beneficial. While tongue-bite has never been an issue, the blend can be provoked to bitterness and become very harsh indeed. When properly smoked though, the reward is amazing, a nearly endless supply of rich sweet powerful smoke, of almost stupefying intensity. Is it strong? Yes, very. Is it overpowering? No, I don't find it so, simply irresistible in flavors. I find myself craving it!
Supplemental Notes: This is one of a handful of tobaccos that I would take to the 'desert island'. I now purchase it by the pound! **** 4 full stars
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Flyboy
|
11/28/2005 |
Strong
|
Medium
|
Full
|
Tolerable to Strong
|
|
| With so many reviews, it hardly needs more of the same. This is a very unique tobacco that, for me, needs to be smoked when I have the craving for such a weed. It can be a bit much for the novice and too much for an all day smoke! It`s best enjoyed when you have the time to give it the attention it commands. A demanding blend but, with patience, a very satisfying and rewarding experience! The taste is very difficult to explain to someone else, a must try adventure!!
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Redneck
|
11/19/2005 |
Strong
|
Strong
|
Full
|
Strong
|
|
| To sum it up, YUK !!!
It has been said that smoking is bad for your health but this over-dose of tonquin is yukky. "Check out the web re. tonquin.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
gomerpile
|
11/06/2005 |
Very Strong
|
Strong
|
Extra Full
|
Strong
|
|
| I tried this out of pure curiosity, and have discovered how fantastic it really is. I find this a very rich and flavorful smoke. The tonquin is very difficult to describe, a combination of peat moss, vanilla, and bazooka joe gum. But in a good way, if that's possible to imagine.
The best thing about it is how full the flavor is. So many go crazy for an insane level of latakia in their blends because it makes for a very full taste, imagine a virgina that gave that same level of fullness. This is it. It explodes with virgina flavor, smoothed and mellowed by the tonquin.
The downside of this is overwhelming strength. This is not a blend to be treated lightly. It's sort of like accidentally buying 121 proof and not realizing it until you've already had 3 rum and cokes. By then, it's way too late and you might as well just get into bed before you do something stupid. If you're concerned with nicotine content, try using escudo and haddo's as stepping stones. They should prepare you for what is sliently waiting for you here. Seems to smoke best for me in small bowls, and you'd be wise to keep it chained to only a few pipes.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Lancelot Gobbo
|
10/13/2005 |
Strong
|
Medium
|
Mild to Medium
|
Pleasant
|
|
| Many years ago I favoured the sweetest, blandest and 'goopiest' aromatic I could find (it was 'Checkmate' by Winston & Holmes - a long-dead tobacconist in Toronto, and still available from their descendant, Sleuth & Statesman). Now I know it wasn't vanilla & coconut, but tonquin that flavoured it. This is like a 'dry' version of vanilla, just the same but not as sweet. Certainly intense, though. This tobacco is very moist and should be aired. It is a smooth smoking, but positively aromatic experience. It has lots of nicotine. Lots. If you want to smoke an aromatic, but retain the respect of your English mixture colleagues, this will fit the bill nicely. On the other hand, if you hanker after the actual flavour of tobacco, go with its stablemate, SG's Best Brown Flake (NOT G&H Brown Flake #2, mind!)
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
jackhackett
|
10/08/2005 |
Very Strong
|
Strong
|
Full
|
Tolerable to Strong
|
|
| This is an otherwise sturdy flake that features an unusual and seemingly love-it-or-leave-it topping element (that may or may not have been an early rat poison component), tonquin.
1792 is appealing to the nose in the tin, and the vanilla-like tonquin imparts a soft, sweet nature to the flavor; however 1792 is strong stuff and you will require patience and respect to stay on this horse without injuring yourself.
Dedicate (or sacrifice) a pipe to this one, it does linger.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Collezionista
|
09/28/2005 |
Strong
|
Medium
|
Very Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| What a fascinating weed! I admit that I was a little wary of this blend after some of the above reviews painted it out to be something of a terror to behold. However, I found that it merited no such hyperbole and is in fact a very mellow smoke. While the nicotine content does indeed seem to be high, the blend is much smoother than I expected. Upon receiving the tin in the mail I immediately opened it up. As smooth and enjoyable as the actual smoke may be, the tin aroma is quite shocking. The above review that mentioned rotting garbage was not exagerrating. I also picked up the odors of burning rubber, a faint hint of licorice, and (I suppose) the smell of quality tobacco buried in there somwhere as well. I rubbed the flakes out into ribbons and promptly put the tin away! After a good supp, I packed a bowl and lit it with some trepidation. Instead of meeting the blast of flavor that I expected, all I experienced was a sort of mild, musty smoke. I was almost writing the blend off as a let-down when the flavor hit. Swirling, complex flavors unlike anything else I've ever experienced in a tobacco. Yet at the same time it was very mild and enjoyable. The strange, spicy flavors ebbed and flowed until about half way through the bowl the smooth virginias announced themselves. The smoke would subtly change in such ways until the bowl was spent, and I expect that each smoke hereafter will be equally rewarding. I highly recommend this to those looking for an interesting change of pace and a DEEP blend to explore.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
zulujerk
|
09/28/2005 |
Strong
|
Medium
|
Full
|
Tolerable to Strong
|
|
| What a change of pace! I read a little about tonquin before I bought this and expected to get some kind of vanilla flavor, but I don't see it.
Some people make that comparison, but to me, the taste is almost incomparable to anything I know. The smell out of the tin reminded me of brand new sneakers, and though that may repel some, I promptly put on a wide grin.
I agree that this is strong, but I didn't find it as overwhelming as some suggested. It burns beautifully and there isn't a hint of tongue bite, which I found unusual for a blend with a topping.
If you're looking for a tobacco with a unique taste and a strong full bodied hit--this is all you.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
The Keeper
|
08/16/2005 |
Very Strong
|
Mild to Medium
|
Full
|
Tolerable to Strong
|
|
| After reading the reviews here I was positive I would hate the stuff.
I opened an aged sample that had been sent my way and thought...someone #%@! in the tin. I imagined that at some point someone literally had dropped drawers, filled the tin and then rinsed it out and put in the tobak. Real funny guys. But I let it air a bit and got past that. At that point, I was completely positive I would hate it. But packed a small bent bowl and lit it up anyway. Out of the concetration of the tin the aroma of the unburnt leaf is not so bad. The initial light is kind of flat. The first few puffs...
HOLY %$#! this stuff is good! At least I think so. The characteristics have been reviewed so heavily here that I won't belabor the point. I will add to it.
I've fallen completely in and out of love with Kendal Flake, Ennerdale, Glenngary, etc... They aren't bad but I could never imagine reaching for them more than once a year. If it weren't for the fact that 1792 is just so potent in every respect, I could smoke it more frequently. It has an earthiness that is accented by the Tonquin. It creates kind of a sweet vanilla-herb flavor that I can only describe as ancient and well bred. I imagine this as perfect in a pub with a stout or bitter. Amazingly cool, mellow tasting, with the signature burnt sweetness of steamed VA.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Darwin
|
07/31/2005 |
Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Full
|
Strong
|
|
| (07/31/2005)I tried 1792 a few years ago, and I hated it. It seemed overwhelmingly strong and the flavor was terrible. I read on ASP that the quality was in question at that time, but recently it was back, so I decided to give it another try. I'm very happy I did...
It has become a daily smoke for me. I love the strength and flavor. I prefer it as a final smoke before calling it a day. The tonquin seems to have some medicinal effect on me that promotes relaxation. Highly recommended!
Update (12/23/2009) A lot of things have happened to me since my last review of 1792 four and a half years ago. For one thing, I learned to love cigars and smoke 2 or 3 a day, if not more. But I still love 1792! It has to be the greatest form of tobacco ever made. I feel so sorry for smokers who can't enjoy this for one reason or another. I can't imagine a world without 1792. I used to be an atheist, but after smoking 1792 I knew there must be something out there making sure those presses and steaming chambers are working. And who planted tobacco in Tanzania, anyway? And where the hell did tonquin come from? And what mortal in their right mind would say, "let's put some tonquin on that tobacco"? It all points to a superior being out there, doesn't it? It's undeniable.
Also, give Cob Plug a try. It is very similar to 1792, perhaps it's pressed more densely before steaming.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Spike
|
07/08/2005 |
Strong
|
Very Mild
|
Mild to Medium
|
Pleasant to Tolerable
|
|
| When nothing else will do...POW! Smoked in a very small briar this tobacco is quite nice but...still very potent. Don't give up after only one encounter. It is a high quality flake. Hand rub it out, let it sit in the pipe for 15-30 minutes before lighting up. Not for the inexperienced smoker. An occasional pleasure.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
sasha
|
07/01/2005 |
Very Strong
|
Mild to Medium
|
Very Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| A very good flake if you like lake District Virginias. This is lightly flavoured with tonquin, I think it's a pleasant taste. The strenght of this one is something that may offend your palate and tongue, so pay attention.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
DUPE.1512
|
06/16/2005 |
Very Strong
|
Medium
|
Very Full
|
Tolerable to Strong
|
|
| When you really want a potent full bodied, taste and nicotene kick this is the blend. This is a high quality flake and is best to rub it out. An ocassional pleasure but definately not for a beggining smoker.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Todd
|
04/23/2005 |
Very Strong
|
Strong
|
Extra Full
|
Strong
|
|
| 10/31/04 - 1792 Flake (new, tinned)
Tin: If your nose is anywhere close to the tin when you pop it open, the strong and unique aroma of the tonquin flavoring will certainly be the first thing you notice. Trying to communicate the tonquin smell seems like a fairly pointless exercise. I've heard it described as "vanilla on steroids," and that seems somewhat appropriate, but you really have to experience it firsthand. Once you get over that, you'll find a moist, even sticky, thin-cut flake similar in construction to Gawith's other flakes. 1792 was a little too moist out of the tin for me and required 20-30 minutes of drying time after rubbing it out (though even then, some stickiness remains).
Pack: Rubbed out, 1792 packs very easily into the bowl with no unusual techniques required. For the true flake-smoking crowd, the flakes remain pliable enough that they should easily accomodate any manner of folding, rolling, crushing, or other manuevers.
Lighting/Burning: The tobacco lights easily and burns well throughout the bowl. For such a strong, straight VA tobacco, it burns remarkably cool and bite-free. Very nice.
Flavor: The first puffs of 1792 are a blast of tonquin flavoring, almost as strong as the smell from the tin. But after just a few puffs, the strength of flavoring diminishes somewhat, revealing the strong, dark VA's underneath. For the first half of the bowl the tonquin stays very much in the forefront, but not in an unpleasant way to my taste. In the second half the VA's become predominant, though the tonquin is still there close behind. The VA's in here are some powerful stuff, as the reviews here make clear. But there's definitely solid tobacco flavor there, something like a jacked up Full Virginia Flake. As others have mentioned, this is not a tobacco to DGT - smoke it all in one go since the tonquin flavoring gets ugly at relights.
Pipe/Technique: 1792 is certainly a good reason to own some small-bowled pipes. If I smoked this in anything bigger than a small Group 4, I think I'd probably go blind. The strength of both the flavoring and the tobacco benefits from both narrower bowls (less smoke) and shorter bowls (less time). 1792 is satisfying even in my smallest pipe, a Sav Punto prince that has perhaps half the capacity of a Group 4 billiard. Since I smoke indoors, I rubbed out the flake completely as I usually do. Other than that, no fancy technique is required - while this is certainly strong tobacco, it is also very well-behaved.
Overall: This is the epitome of "love it or hate it" tobacco. If you find the tonquin flavoring agreeable (I do) and can stomach both the strong flavor and nicotine (I can), then this should be a favorite. The tobacco is excellent quality, burns very well, and has great flavor. Still, as much as I like it, I couldn't possibly smoke this all day - it's just too potent. But I find it perfect as a once-every-day-or-two kind of smoke. If you haven't smoked 1792 yet, you owe it to yourself to try it - though you may want to sample somebody else's in case the flavor is not your cup of tea.
Update 4/23/05 - My most recent tin of this (which was only my third, given how infrequently I smoke it) showed me what people were talking with complaints of inconsistency between batches. In some sense, it was recognizably the same tobacco - I mean, how many jet-black, tonquin-powered flakes are there? But in another, it was a whole different animal. Poor burning, rough around the edges, and somehow different even in the way the tonquin tasted. I don't know what the deal is, but I'll downgrade my rating to 3/4 for now. If you're going to buy this stuff, try to check out your source with regular 1792 smokers to make sure it's OK.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Polski
|
04/22/2005 |
Very Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Full
|
Pleasant
|
|
| I have been waiting to try this one for a while. Being that I enjoy stronger tobaccos this seemed as a fair contender for a date with my pipe. Right away after opening the tin, I knew this was going to be something diffrent to my usual smoke. The strong tonquin flavor is the first thing that hits you. Breaking up the tobacco is quite easy, but will dirty your hands. Had a little bit of trouble lighting the tobacco, but once it started going it just went on. Just relighted once. Be prepared for a nikotin rush if you smoke this one to fast. Even thought this is a strong tobacco no tongue bite was apparent. The taste can be almost compared to black licorice, wich some will enjoy and some wont. Overall this is a tobacco I will for sure come back to, even thought probably not on a daily basis.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Diogenes
|
04/12/2005 |
Medium to Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Full
|
Pleasant to Tolerable
|
|
| Upon opening the tin I was reminded of the smell of old New England homes built during the 1600-1700s with a slight hint of another aroma, that of creosote soaked railroad tracks. Tonquin is an interesting bean I guess.
Unlike other reviewers maybe I just don't have a nose for the supposed sweetness of the tin aroma despite the obvious bloom BUT once lit, the tobacco's sweetness does make it's presence known. Don't get me wrong, this is still a very bold blend, it's just that the sweetness is more on the level of black licorice rather than a "circus peanut".
Not an all day smoke for sure but well worth keeping on hand.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Simenon
|
04/07/2005 |
Overwhelming
|
Very Strong
|
Full
|
Pleasant
|
|
| Well this tobacco is truly out of the ordinary. It has more in common with some illegal substances than other pipe tobaccos.
The tin aroman is pure cocoa, very interesting.
While smoking, the flavour is of powerful (and somehow natural vanilla) but enjoyed by people in the room, including even non smokers.
But what is great about this tobacco is what it does to you: it lifts you up your chair; it makes you high, literaly!
I doubt its nicotine, since I can puff on dark Cuban cigars and feel sick from too much nicotine --but this feels way diferent. Its not the nicotine: its the Tonquin, stupid.
My prediction: This stuff gets outlawed or the formula changed in the next five years.
By the way I say I smoke this regularly, but this is only because its the highest recommendation available. According the classification available here, Coca-cola would rate over a $600 dollar bottle of wine just because you can drink coke everyday! Lol!
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
port_and_pipes
|
02/10/2005 |
Strong
|
Extra Strong
|
Full
|
Tolerable to Strong
|
|
| I have tried very hard to like this blend - it's apparently very close to how some of the earliest tobaccos tasted and I consider it a piece of living history in that regard. All I can say is I'm glad I'm living in the present. No matter how hard I tried, up to and including blending it with other tobaccos, the Tonquin flavour was just too overpowering. It reached a sickly stage within a third of a bowl.
The tobacco looks gorgeous, smells ok (if you like Tonquin/Vanilla) but unlike many vanilla-flavoured aromatic I just couldn't taste anything but the tonquin.
So if you like tonquin - fill your boots, but if you prefer the taste of tobacco (like me) then I'd strongly suggest looking elsewhere.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Tantric
|
02/08/2005 |
Very Strong
|
None detected
|
Very Full
|
Overwhelming
|
|
| I imagine this is what pure, strong tobacco tasted like well over a century ago. I have tried this a number of times, and though it does smoke cool, it's just too much for me. It is one of the strongest flakes I can think of. It has that rope or pig's tail tobacco quality in the sense of a very rough and raw flavor.
Room aroma is definitely awful, leaving an almost pungent stench that has nothing to do with other "strong" room aroma, such as the incense like smell of Latakias or Orientals. The nicotine punch is very much in evidence and even if you smoke this flake in a calmly and paused manner, dizziness is, in my experience, inevitable.
Otherwise, this a real tobacco. Have a go and picture yourself in one of those XIXth century clippers, in the company of brawling sailors or pirates. Don't forget the parrot perched on your shoulder.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Darth 69
|
02/07/2005 |
Overwhelming
|
Very Mild
|
Mild to Medium
|
Tolerable to Strong
|
|
| I think this blend would be found as somewhat strange to the American smoker, in that what we are accustomed to. Very musty in the tin aroma. This is a blend of all darkfired leaf with a discrete flavoring of tonkin. This adds a slight sweetness to the smoke and aroma. Beware though, this is very high in nicotine. So full in that aspect I had to stop about 1/3 down the bowl due to it being so rich. It's strength on the palette is mild to medium and not sharp like one would expect from a full virgina blend. That being said it is a somewhat deceptive blend in expectation and if you try it for the first time puff as slow as possible or you could get a nicotine jolt that could make you feel a little green.
-Interesting, but not for me.
-Recommended for the experimentor and people with high metabolisms
Update 1-26-05 In reconsideration of my former review this is horriable. I don't know why I had some extreme open mindedness for this tobacco. This smells like a horse's stall. This illustrates by analogy why acient peoples would smoke such unrefined and bitter tasting smoke from a weed... its' the nicotine, duh! I guess that may be the appeal of this blend that it's potent nicotine content in it's pharmacological effect will override it's unpleasant sensory qualities.
Update Update I have tried this again and have swung back to not only respecting this, but enjoying it. The smoke aroma is quite pleasurable, rounded sweet and full. Taste likewise but a little less. That tin aroma though can only be describe as foul as stated above. I think it may depend on mood. Another maybe that it is so satisfying, overly so in conjunction with it's "round" mildly sweet aroma. Oh, will the schizophrenia ever stop?!
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Inquisitor
|
01/09/2005 |
Extremely Strong
|
Medium
|
Very Full
|
Strong
|
|
| I don't know why I like 1792. It has no complexity or subtlety, no high range. But it has a rugged charm, a harshness that can be intriguing. It's like a extra bitter, extra strong cup of espresso, a cask-strength bourbon. It has a back of the throat edge that is somehow very satisfying. You have to surrender to it, let it wash over you. Far from an everyday smoke, it yet occupies a unique position in my line-up.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
imago
|
12/12/2004 |
Very Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Very Full
|
Tolerable to Strong
|
|
| As a friend of mine would probably say, this stuff will "kick you in the teeth". There is no other word than "strong" for this tobacco. Of course, the two bowls I sampled were smoked in an Oom Paul...perhaps if I tried it in a smaller bowl, the effects wouldn't be so noticeable.
Despite the fact that this is the double espresso of pipe tobacco, I have a feeling that I will be craving it from time to time. There is something indescribable about it that is oddly alluring, despite the fact that the word "MULE" should be written on the outside of the tin.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Phantom55
|
12/10/2004 |
Medium
|
Medium to Strong
|
Medium
|
Tolerable
|
|
| I put off trying this one because of the reviews I had read here. I finally tried it, and found out the worst thing about this blend is the casing. It is very peculiar and somewhat unpleasant as far as I am concerned. The tobacco burns very cool with no bite all the way down. I have had trouble keeping it lit, and find it smokes best in a larger bowl. No dizziness, cold sweats etc. it's just pipe tobacco, and nothing special as far as I am concerned. I can't imagine why they feel a need to case this stuff so heavily, as the casing is the predominant flavor and aroma. After smoking a half dozen bowls in various sizes, am still undecided whether I like this or not. The heavy casing just puts me off a bit, and wish they used a bit less of it. A tobacco interesting to try.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Steve P-H
|
12/01/2004 |
Very Strong
|
Medium
|
Very Full
|
Pleasant to Tolerable
|
|
| Just about everything has been said about this wonderful flake...just wanted to register it as one of my very favorites. I smoke it several times a week, before bedtime, in a small-bowled churchwarden meerschaum.
I'm not normally big on toppings, but the tonquin in this blend is delicious, perfectly harmonizing with the flavors of the dark flake. Very strong, but smooth.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
purpleronald
|
11/28/2004 |
Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Very Full
|
Extra Strong
|
|
| It's a great tobbaco...and could be a favorite but so far I smoke Balkan Sasieni and SG's Chocolate Flake more regularly... It's a potent nicotine blast - and I like it. Burns well and should satisfy most folks who prefer the natural complexity of tobacco to the perfumed casing of certain aromatics... With that being said , it reminds me of the importance the 'pipe' itself plays in the experience. I have some nice pipes...but the pipe I like best is my cheap rustic peterson 'tankard'. It's a sitter and very light. It's also not dedicated to a particular blend. In fact, it's nice to have such a pipe that offers a hint of Balkan Sasieni with your Chocolate Flake or a taste of Chocolate Flake as you burn down the bowl of Margate... 1792 is such a good blend of tobacco - it fits right in and doesn't disappoint the rotation! It's a nice full flavored experience and adds character to your pipe.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Esoxhunter
|
10/23/2004 |
Extremely Strong
|
Mild to Medium
|
Extra Full
|
Tolerable to Strong
|
|
| October 2004
If you are a cigar smoker looking to match the fullness of a Hoyo Rothschild or a Cohiba Robusto in a pipe tobacco, you need look no further. This is Terrific. Unlike some of the reviewers above, I fully rubbed this out for outdoor smoking and had no problem keeping it lit. I also loved the tangy tin aroma, unlike some other folks. It does pack a nicotine wallup, even for a lifelong cigarette smoker, and even if you don't inhale. Highly recommedned if you like a powerful smoke. This is by far my favorite Gawith product.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Luke_Wyatt
|
10/10/2004 |
Very Strong
|
Extremely Mild
|
Very Full
|
Strong
|
|
| I can't add too much to the recommendations here but if you need a good strong smoke and like virginia's, this is where your money goes. 1792 is the best virginia I've smoked to date.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Beer
|
08/31/2004 |
Very Strong
|
Mild
|
Medium
|
Tolerable to Strong
|
|
| It was with fear and reverence that I approached this dreaded blend, After all, the ropes from the Lakesidedisctrict had made me sick (for nicotine strength and taste) and I had thrown them away in disgust. I did not smoke it on an empty stomach, but I was very careful not to inhale (though I did a couple of times by mistake). So I loaded it in a Tinsky dedicated to Virginias and fired away. Tin aroma is offensive (very fermented, not sweet at all, musty, leathery, almost cat piss) but not very strong.. After letting it open for a couple of hours, the offense to the nostrils is reduced. Similar to Brown Rope, but not nearly as harsh or intense. Very thick smoke, nice flavor, not flowery like some othery Lakeland tobaccos. Not excessively tasty, but the subtleties of taste are very good, natural and only minimally showing the tonquin flavoring. Nicotine strong? Yes, but not as scary as someone may say: at least in small bowls it CAN be smoked. Very relaxing, an almost druggy effect of well being, but not sickness. A good tobacco that I will keep smoking once in a while: I prefer other sweeter Virginias, or the equally dark but friendlier Dark Star, but 1792 isn't bad at all once in a while, and quite unique! Do not DGT, because it tastes bad and rough! Stinky room aroma to non -smokers (described as horse dung!), while cig smokers seem to like it. (Review based on tin version)
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Aureliano
|
08/08/2004 |
Very Strong
|
Medium
|
Very Full
|
Tolerable to Strong
|
|
| I just tried this and Brown Rope #4. Both are excellent tobaccos. I prefer this tobacco alone rather than layered in other blends (unlike Brown Rope #4); mostly because the Tonquin flavor is very strong and overwhelms the flavors of the blend your strengthening. This is the quintessential strong smoke for me.
Like Brown Rope, this tobacco is a good after dinner smoke. It is very relaxing and satisfying. Smoke this slowly and deliberately and you will be more likely to enjoy it. As a sometimes hard puffer, I offer this advice from my own experience. This is a good tobacco to add to a blend that may lack taste. When I do this, I use it sparingly at first as to not overwhelm the base blend. I love experimenting with this because I love this tobacco so much (but I do find it difficult to smoke straight everyday).
I agree with other 1792 fans, give me this as I take my last breath and I'll be smiling as I go.
PS: Some of the other reviewers have commented that they got woosy the first time they smoked this and gave up. The blends that have done this to me that I have returned to are now my favorite blends. Tobaccos this strong aren't supposed to go down easy the first time; there is something to be said for making you work for it, I suppose! Give them another try!
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
ArtGuy
|
04/22/2004 |
Overwhelming
|
Mild to Medium
|
Overwhelming
|
Very Strong
|
|
| Good Golly is this a strong tobacco! If you like nicotine then give this one a try. Me, I got woozy and had to sit down for several minutes after half a bowl.
Not my thing.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
JB
|
04/14/2004 |
Very Strong
|
Very Strong
|
Overwhelming
|
Strong
|
|
| I doubt that I can add much to the reviews already posted, but suffice to say, you have to experience 1792 to really understand what all of the talk is about.
And if you do decide to try it, do so on a full stomach (trust me on that one). It will go to work on your constitution by mid-bowl and you better be ready.
Also, as Tatum pointed out, the smell of some tins of 1792 is pretty bleak. Garbage might take offense to being compared to some tins of 1792 I've smelled.
However, if you can get past all of this, this tobacco can yield some very complex and interesting tastes. Stick with small flake bowls and be sure to write out your will first.
Good luck.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
|
04/01/2004 |
Strong
|
Medium
|
Medium to Full
|
Pleasant to Tolerable
|
|
| I love the strength of this tobacco, but in measured doses. When I want a stout Virginian I prefer Royal Yacht over the tonquin aroma of 1792. I'd rather have a tobacco with backbone than a wispy thin aromatic. New smokers take caution, because if your not careful you'll feel violated.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
flint
|
03/20/2004 |
Very Strong
|
Mild
|
Very Full
|
Tolerable to Strong
|
|
| Sorry guys this one just kicked my butt. Very good flavor just too strong. Smoking this is like playing with a gorilla, the first 5 seconds are great after that you're screaming for mercy.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Pounder 5000
|
02/10/2004 |
Very Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Full
|
Tolerable to Strong
|
|
| WOW!!! You don't smoke something like that everyday! This stuff is intense. The nicotene will straight up punch you in the face if you're not ready for it! The strength is up there with Royal Yacht and the flavor although similiar to the same is stronger here. And you know what? I love it. This is a bold tobacco that takes no prisoners. Either you'll love it or you'll never touch it again. Either way it will only take about two seconds to figure it out. I find the tonquin bean flavoring to be exceptional, and the Virginia base superb. It smokes very cool and left no moisture in my pipe. SG started selling this in tins and I need to try it. If it is anything like the bulk form, I will have to cellar some tins. I alternate this and Royal Yacht as my end of the road smoke in the evening and it never gets tiring. And really- There's only tobacco in the mix!
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Horse Bodotes
|
01/20/2004 |
Extremely Strong
|
None detected
|
Extra Full
|
Overwhelming
|
|
| 'I am Sam. Sam-I-Am' 'Do you like 1792 Flake (and Spam)?'
I do not like them, Sam-I-Am I do not like Brown Flake (or Spam)
'Do you like it, from the tin?' The revolting stench, it keeps me thin
'Do you like it in the house?' I cannot smoke it near the house, The stench infuriates my spouse
'Would you, could you, in the rain?' I would not, could not, in the rain, That acrid smoke, it gives me pain
'You may like it, you will see,' 'You may like it in a tree!' I do not like it in a tree, Let?s face it Sam, it?s not for me
I will not smoke it here or there, I will not smoke it anywhere I DO NOT LIKE 1792 FLAKE (OR SPAM), I DO NOT LIKE IT, SAM-I-AM!
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Briarabbit
|
11/28/2003 |
Overwhelming
|
Very Mild
|
Overwhelming
|
Extra Strong
|
|
| These soft dark chocolate flakes are quite moist and should be dryed out a bit. I rub this out fully,and still have trouble lighting it. Strength? Stronger than a government Mule! Taste? Stronger than agovernment Mule! Room note? Is the out house on fire? Please, what the hell is this stuff? I mean,it tastes good but it's so fussy and the nicotene content is pleasing,but makes me soo%*&%#^dizzy. It smells like wood when I cut it on the table saw.Like the sawdust smells when its hot. If you need a nicoteen kick and are trying to kick the crack habbit try this stuff.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
WxGuy
|
11/08/2003 |
Very Strong
|
Medium
|
Very Full
|
Strong
|
|
| Whoa, baby! This is strong tabak in every sense of the word- taste, nicotine, room note, etc. If this is an example of what tobaccos were like in the 1800s I can't imagine how those pipers survived to produce progeny. (Maybe they didn't!)
IMO, this stuff is more like a drug than a tobacco, and must be used with care, in small doses, and not in confined spaces, unless well-ventilated. I smoked a bowl in my office and could still detect the unique room note several days later. I also got a righteous case of the whirlys with my first bowls, until I had the true measure of this tobacco.
Still, I keep coming back. I have found that the unusual tonquin flavoring grows on me with repeated application. The full body of the smoke is also a winner, even though it is a bit harsh on the throat. Everyone should try this one (carefully) at least once in their piping career as a horizon broadener.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Danno
|
10/02/2003 |
Strong
|
Mild
|
Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| I found 1792 to basically be the flake version of XXRope. Same nauseating tin aroma, same no-nonsense taste. Fundamental difference, for me, was that I tasted certain sweet spots as the bowl progressed;these "tastes" were absent in the rope version. 1792 is a strong tabak and as such is best smoked in smaller doses, providing a very straightforward experience with only a small number of minor surprises. NB-for the rather affrontive tin aroma, the roomnote is surprisingly neutral.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
lvnvbiker
|
08/30/2003 |
Very Strong
|
Mild to Medium
|
Very Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| The scent on opening reminded me of used urinal cakes, kinda rancid and minty at the same time. This flake is very dark, almost latakiaish in appearance and quite dense. Rubbing out it gets a smokey scent and crumbles easily. Man, this is some good stong stuff! Nice grey dry ash, and great flavor and plenty of nicotene! Smoke this in a small billiard! The taste is earthy and peppery, not at all like the smell in the tin...
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Geeper
|
04/16/2003 |
Strong
|
Strong
|
Overwhelming
|
Overwhelming
|
|
| Open the tin and very greasy black flakes greet your eye and a smell of compost greets your nose. I routinely go around to my family and friends and get them to smell anything new I bring home before I even try it. No one was able to get a good smell because they would almost instantly pull back from the tin.
It seems to light well and stay lit even though it is greasy enough to leave stains on the wax paper in the tin.
The room note is VERY unpopular with everyone I know. The "wife rating" on this one would be a 0. I can get away with smoking anything but this with a group of smokers or non-smokers. (Yes, I have very forgiving friends most of the time) It took 2 weeks of not smoking this before people stopped saying "Sure you can light up as long as it's not that stinky one."
It tastes like unsweetened chocolate mixed with compost. Very heavy smoke, which is nice but a taste that just won't go away and does remain in any pipe for weeks after you try it.
Like I always say, if this is what they smoked in 1792 it's amazing we still smoke anything today. If this was all that was left on earth I would quit smoking. It was a real effort to finish the tin, and pipe smoking shouldn't be an effort.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Gregor Samsa
|
03/20/2003 |
Extremely Strong
|
Extra Strong
|
Extra Full
|
Very Strong
|
|
| This is a very occasional smoke, only in a small pipe, just before bed, and after a big meal. It's practically moist enough to smoke in a narghile (which I should try at some point) and quite heavily flavored with tonka bean essence, which according to the internet is apparently poisonous (but probably only if you eat it, which I'm not about to try.) I like it anyway. It smells like a gardening shop, floral, earthy, and indescribably humid. The slices are a little reluctant to rub out well, but effort is rewarded since if the pieces in your pipe are too big the flavor ends up even stronger than otherwise.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
pxi106
|
12/11/2002 |
Strong
|
Mild to Medium
|
Very Full
|
Pleasant to Tolerable
|
|
| I have finally found my "last smoke" tobacco. You know, "Let my last breath be inhaled from a pipe (of 1792)...." Sorry, Mr. Lamb.
Anyway, on the initial light I could tell. Pleasant Tonquin flavoring, strong but still letting the tobacco through. Blast of strength on the back of your throat.
I'm in love. Strength, pleasant flavoring, cool burning, slow burning, semi-pleasant aroma. Good stuff. Also, economical considering the actual amount needed to produce the desired effects.
In short, smoke it. If you don't like it, send it to me!
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
sonny
|
09/15/2002 |
Medium to Strong
|
Medium
|
Very Full
|
Pleasant to Tolerable
|
|
| Well I'm going to add my thoughts for what they're worth. I had read the prior reviews and decided that I would give this a whirl. While most other reviewers found this to be a rather, how should I say it, difficult smoke i.e., strong with a potent nicotine punch, I found that the nicotine punch just isn't there for me. Maybe too many years (5) of smoking Camel non-filter cigs.? On the other hand I finished the first bowl last night about a half hour before retiring for the night, and did get a small rush, but I attribute that to a lapse of around an hour or more before hand without smoking, usually have a pipe always at the ready. I did find the smell in the tin a little off-putting at first, but I have gotten used to it. Would I recommend this to someone, that depends, if they like things that are strong and they themselves have a strong constitution, yes, otherwise don't bother with it. I will however keep this on hand as a welcome break from my usual smoke. One other thing, I inhale when I smoke my pipes and this tobacco is no exception to the rule. Happy smoking! :)
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Grundie
|
09/10/2002 |
Very Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Full
|
Tolerable to Strong
|
|
| Like the other reviewers here I have to agree, this is one strong tobacco and is to be handled with care. The tobacco is quite sticky and oily and messes up your hands as you rub it out, I've never had this with any other flake I've smoked.
It is is easy to pack, but due to it's stickyness once you press it down it doesn't spring up like other tobaccos so pack it carefully. If you pack it too tightly, all you can do is empty the bowl and start again.
It's easy to light and right from the first puff you know you are dealing with one strong concoction. The smoke is very thick and creamy and you can almost feel texture in the smoke with your tongue. There is serious nictine aplenty here, don't inhlae this stuff or you might go blind.
The flavour is unmistakable virginia and quite strong it is too, but the orientals add a pleasant edge to it. There is a very mild sweetness to it, with overtones of cinamon and is that honeyness I can sense, hmm nice!
Despite the strength of this blend, I got no tongue bite and found it very cool burning. I suspect however a poorly filled pipe would be a different kettle of fish and you quite bad bite would result. Stick to small bowls and puff slowly, less ye shall go off on a mad nicotine rush.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Daniel Morlan
|
09/06/2002 |
Very Strong
|
Extremely Mild
|
Very Full
|
Strong
|
|
| I was a little put off by the similarity of the smell of this tobacco with bovine manure. The taste is unique, full, and fairly consistent throughout the bowl (if you smoke it carefully the whole time.) But it is quite intense. Under the right circumstances, I'd enjoy this tremendously, but it's not something you'd smoke if you were hungry.
I had to re-light this fella a few times. (8 to be exact.) and initially had to babysit it with the tamper. I admit that I smoked this at the wrong time, and to that end, it is HOW I smoked it that reduced the potential enjoyment of it. The taste is unlike anything I can compare it to. All I can say is that it's simply unique, worth trying, and in my case, I'll have it again, but not on an empty stomach, and not bright an early in the morning.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Solar Pons
|
09/05/2002 |
Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Medium to Full
|
Pleasant
|
|
| My first foray into strangely cased English tobaccos ended with disastorous results. It was over fifteen years later that I tried 1792 and enjoyed it. I now keep this around as well as some of the offerings from Gawith & Hogarth.
My current tin of 1792 is on the dry side and a bit difficult to light. I am currently smoking it in a well smoked 90 year old meerschaum which imparts a full, rich flavor. The tonquin flavoring, which dominates the blend, is hard to compare to other tobaccos. Fresh baked bread comes to mind, which is understandable since tonquin is also used in baking. I only smoke this relaxing at home even though I do not get a tonka buzz that others have felt.
I would recommend this to anyone who enjoys the rich full tobacco of the English Lake district.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Willy
|
08/03/2002 |
Very Strong
|
Medium to Strong
|
Medium to Full
|
Tolerable to Strong
|
|
| I'll only add my tuppence to the spot-on reviews already here. Sceny, Pokrsmkr, you guys nailed it. I like the flavor of this stuff, it did rub out fairly easily, took me a couple lights to get it going but proceeded to burn well, and seemed to be a top-notch flake, but after smoking this I know for sure why they used little bowls to smoke tobacco in. It wasn't just the price of tobacco in those days!!! I've never had a pipe tobacco make me dizzy like this one did, and laying down and putting one foot on the floor didn't stop the room from spinning. Seriously folks, I think with a little care in smoking this could be a good, flavorful tobacco especially after a filling evening meal when you retreat to the front porch to sit in the old wood rocker and listen to the multitude of night sounds while sipping on an after dinner coffee. The advantage is you're already sitting down.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Albion 1956
|
01/16/2002 |
Strong
|
Strong
|
Very Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| The amazing tonquin flavor, from the tonka bean, Dipteryx odorata. This is the essence of this blend, not to overshadow the excellently produced tobacco. This is one of those tobacco's you'll either love or hate. This is the second in a series of Virginia flakes that I tried when initiallly exposed to Lake District tobaccos. Natural, that is comes to mind when the tin is opened, the pressing of the tobacco, and then scented with the essence is sublime. The smell alone makes for some to get giddy headed. Small, thin flakes, sliced to perfection, and wraped. This, like FVF needs some air to become functional, and don't forget to put the lid back on because this has no PG and will go dry, in a hurry. This flake rubs out nice, and filling an old Pete with this seems to fit. The charring light seems to emit a flavor, odor, pungency, that cannot be left alone, in that I mean that it is alone, in it's own catagory, this stuff will light YOU up. The palate tries to discern the oncoming rush of variants, but to no avail, it capitulates to the realm of overintoxicating flavor. Middle way down the bowl the smoke with it's messengers, in the form of smoke rings, dance around the acrid atmosphere in a moment of almost asphyxiation from the presence of increased nicotine and tonquin. The bottom of the bowl emits little dottle, and a base of white ash. To indulge yourself in this pleasure, commit a pipe to it and explore. This is not a hallucinogenic, but merely a product of perfection, that can bring a feeling of exhilaration to those that partake. Enjoy
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Paul Tatum
|
08/13/2001 |
Very Strong
|
Strong
|
Medium
|
Pleasant
|
|
| My first encounter with 1792 had me scared . Upon opening the tin it is a formidable tobacco . Very dark almost black leaf with an oily sheen , usually leaving a deep stain on the wax paper packing . The tin aroma is very strong and almost nausiating , but very flowery and pleasant once the taste for the tobacco is aquired . Smoking the tobacco mellows all the horrid tin bogies , and the smoke has always for me been cool and pleasant . The tonquin flavors mute down and actual tobacco flavors emerge . The nicotine hit is pretty substantial and makes this tobacco a good before bed smoke . I have a very hard time smoking this tobacco for the sole reason of it being difficult for me to get past the tin aroma , but once I finally get the stuff in my pipe and get it lit it's great stuff . Be aware that as of today ( 08/13/2001) there are some bad tins out there on the market . My local tobacconist has had to return his entire stock due to spoiled tobacco . The smell is very much like fermented garbage , like standing next to a country dumpster at noon in August . This aroma is muted to some degree in some of the spoiled tins . If you have tried this tobacco recently and hated it , this may be the reason .
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Sceny
|
04/19/2001 |
Extremely Strong
|
Very Strong
|
Extra Full
|
Very Strong
|
|
| I believe that the best phrase to describe this tobacco is "love it or hate it." It is *very* strong, both in flavor and nicotine content, and totally unique in my experience. I enjoyed it a lot, once I was used to the nearly overwhelming flavor, but definitely avoid it if you can't stand Tonka! The aroma in the sample bag is strong and unique, with hints of sweetness and mustiness. The overwhelming note, however, is a strange smell that is totally new to me. This is, I think, the Tonka that is added to this tobacco; it isn't a bad smell, just very strong and unusual. The leaf is in very dark flakes, black with some brown thrown in. The flakes are on the moist side, but do rub out fairly easily. It packs easily when rubbed out and lights quickly, burning well with a below average number of relights needed. I approached this blend with caution, smoking it first in a small-bowled Stanwell out of respect for its strength. In the first third or the bowl, the initial burst of flavor is very close to the smell: the strong and *different* taste of Tonka, with a bit of sweetness as well. I quickly notice a slightly harsh tang that I normally associate with burley tobacco, especially when blown out through the nose. (By the way, I do not recommend blowing this out through the nose unless your sinus is asbestos-lined; and for the love of God, don't inhale! I will not be held responsible for the consequences!) The harshness isn't excessive, however, and by the end of this third, it dissipates. But still, the sweetness and tang always take a back seat to the Tonka. It isn't a bad flavor, per se, but it is very close to being *too* strong. On the plus side, I haven't yet seen any tongue bite from the smoke. In the second 1/3, the harshness is gone, and the Tonka has mellowed somewhat, though it is still the main taste present. The sweetness has merged with the Tonka flavor, and a sour taste has also joined in, the intensity of which varies with each puff. It isn't as bad now exhaled through the nose, though it is still very strong. On to the final third, and I'm starting to feel the nicotine. I'm glad I used a small pipe and ate a large meal before smoking this! The smoke is actually fairly smooth, at least as far as anything this strong could be smooth. The only way I could describe the taste is "unique"; the mixture of sweet, sour, and Tonka is full and strong. Indeed, it is perhaps the strongest flavored tobacco I've ever tried, and it is almost as strong at the very bottom of the bowl as at the beginning, though I'm more used to it at this point. The smoke is still bite-free and moisture is never a problem. Overall, this is an excellent after-dinner blend, though I couldn't imagine smoking it often. The power of this blend, both in taste and nicotine, would overwhelm the unprepared. I like the unique flavor, and with care I can handle the strength; I plan to buy a tin as an occasional treat. It certainly grows on you, the more you smoke it. I agree with other reviewers that this is a tobacco that everyone needs to try at least once; but use care, or we may be scraping you off the floor with a spatula. ;o)
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Noorrmm
|
03/22/2001 |
Extremely Strong
|
Mild to Medium
|
Extra Full
|
Tolerable
|
|
| A very dark flake, fairly fine cut, and a bit moist. The aroma is almost nasty, possibly owing to the fermentation. It rubs out easily to whatever degree you prefer, and is easy to pack. When first lit, there is a blast of spiciness that's hard to describe, (almost like the sweet components of a curry mixture), not unpleasant and soon subsiding to a manageable level. The fullness of the virginia soon becomes apparent, possibly the fullest I have ever tasted. It is also the smoothest and coolest I can recall, just the "low" note of the tobacco, and a small amount of the tonka flavor. It burns best when puffed very slowly, but never got hot, and leaves a clean white ash. The room aroma got positive comments from my wife. In summary, it is probably not going to be a regular smoke for me, but will probably be an occasional treat to come back to periodically.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
pokrsmokr
|
03/21/2001 |
Extremely Strong
|
Strong
|
Very Full
|
Very Strong
|
|
| One of the most unique flake tobaccos I have come across; 1792 (or Cobb Flake as it is known across the pond) is, simply put, one hell of a kick ass tobacco. Now, I don't use the term kick ass to indicate it's one of my fvorites, rather that it will literally kick your butt when you smoke it. The first time I smoked it I packed it into a small (Dunhill size 1-2) mastro de paja billiard and got the nicotine O.D. hiccups about 1/3 the way through. Of course, it tasted so good I couldn't stop smoking it... so I alternated puffs and hiccups for the remainder of the smoke.
the flakes are very dark and oily, no doubt from the cooking process and the unmistakable flavoring. The tonka bean flavoring which is quite strong upon opening the tin has a nearly overwhelming presence upon lighting, easily eclipsing any of the VA tastes. It does dissipate about 1/3 to 1/2 through the bowl at which point the high quality VAs which comprise this flake can be appreciated -though the tonka flavor will continue to play peek-a-boo until the bowl is finished. This tobacco leaves an incredible ash and despite the strength of the tobacco, it doesn't seem to leave a ghostly presence in a pipe like a more haunting aromatic would.
this is not a tobacco I smoke often, nor could I consider it among my favorite tobaccos -but it *is* an experience. If you like strong, in-yer-face tobaccos, this is definitely a msut try... hell, even if you don't you've still got to try this at least once.
|
| Reviewed By: |
Date: |
Strength: |
Flavoring: |
Taste: |
Room Note: |
Recommendation: |
|
Colonel Panic
|
03/11/2001 |
Very Strong
|
None detected
|
Very Full
|
Extra Strong
|
|
| Pouch Aroma: This is a heavy, sweet-smelling tobacco. When it first arrived it was quite damp and the sweet, grassy and earthy smell was overpowering. After opening the baggie and setting it on top of my computer monitor overnight both moisture and aroma were reduced to a liveable level. I can't place the exact aroma I'm getting; it's a melange of molasses, honey, fermented clover hay and allspice. Interesting, but not what I usually go for!
Appearance: It arrived in longish flakes (3" or so) which I broke up for drying purposes but didn't rub out. It's about 90% dark brown and black with a light sprinkling of yellowish bits that could be stem and rib pieces. The flakes are about 1/16" thick and are soft and easily broken up.
Packing and Lighting: I'm sampling this tobacco first, in a newish Savinelli Linea Piu. It's not broken in yet but has already provided me with some great smokes - and I'm in the mood for that pipe this morning. Being indoors I'm going to rub the flakes out well, and I'll try them unrubbed when I take my evening walk tonight.
It rubs out into a nice mass of broken ribbon and loads quite easily. A pre-lighting draw brings a muted version of the pouch aroma, more of the molasses than anything else. The charring light is easily accomplished, with the tobacco raising a noticeable crown, and the initial flavor is that of spiciness, both of dark-fired tobacco and allspice. Blown out the nose there is a bit of a tingle, and I think there will be a nice bit of nicotine in this. I almost don't need to relight at all, but I tamp anyway and lay the pipe down and leave the room for a few minutes to get the room note, which is not as heavy as I would have thought. It's merely sweet, like the way the kitchen smells when I'm caramelizing sugar to bake a flan. No heavy overtones, just s soft musky sweetness.
Exposition: After the first relight, I get a good sense of the strength hidden under this mild-tasting, sweet tobacco. There is air-cured tobacco here, as it leaves a familiar taste in the back of my throat. The flavor, however, is light and soft, even when blown out the nose. The smoke rising from the bowl is quite sharp and spicy and reminds me of burning pear wood, leading me to believe that this might best have been smoked in my bent Peterson rather than this Lovat. Still, it's quite a nice smoke and it meshes well with the cool Russian Caravan tea (milk and sugar if you please!) that I'm drinking with it.
The Story: As the bowl burns down a little way, the sweetness gives way to a sourish, fermented flavor. The aroma reminds me of being far downwind of a cotton-candy vendor but the flavor is definitely changing, gaining in body and becoming more 'pointed'. It's pleasant, but the smoke rising from the bowl is getting a definite ammonia cast to it and I'm not fond of that part.
The sour note is getting more prominent now and is starting to come through in the room aroma a bit. It still smells nice but the taste is getting murky and sharp, reminding me of swampy smells. I lay the pipe aside to go out, as I want to see how it handles a relight after five minutes or so.
Prior to relight, I draw through the pipe and get the same unpleasant ammoniac flavor that a cigar can get if allowed to go out. The match brings this out sharply for a few puffs but it goes away soon, leaving a musty, musky flavor in its place; also, the allspice flavor is returning in force. The strength is definitely increasing, and if you're one who occasionally inhales your pipe, I wouldn't advise it with this tobacco!
Approaching the half-bowl point, the ammonia flavor is intensifying again. It's getting unpleasant, and if this wasn't an 'official review' I'd probably dump the bowl and smoke something light and sweet to get the taste out of my mouth! The problem here is that this nasty taste gets to the point of annoyance, then recedes so I get the soft, sweet, musty and spicy flavors that I like. Just when I get settled into it, the swampy taste comes back. Each relight brings this taste to the fore, then it fades away again. I thought I could cure the problem with liberal application of pipe cleaners but that doesn't help, although dumping the ash frequently makes it a bit more tolerable. It burns evenly, smokes cool and stays lit well, but I need more than tantalizing hints of what it could be to keep my interest. I think this is mostly burley, as that seems to be a common experience with me and air-cured tobacco.
Denouement: From the last third down, the flavor has been getting nastier and nastier. It has turned bitter, alkaline, ashy and sour and is leaving such a terrible taste in my mouth that I'm officially abandoning it. After I dump it, I'll clean the pipe thoroughly with alcohol (bowl and all) and condition it with vinegar to get rid of the rank ammonia smell that it seems intent on leaving in my pipe. Gack.
Pros: It starts out nicely enough, and holds up well until the halfway point. The room aroma is quite pleasant, and the flavor is smooth and enjoyable.
Cons: Everything from the halfway point on. 'Nuff said.
Addendum: It's now 3 days later and I'm trying it again - this time in a blasted Stanwell Hans Christian Andersen #1. It's broken in better than the Savinelli and is very forgiving when it comes to what I smoke in it. It's starting out similarly, but I'm really waiting for the half-bowl point to see if I can get an enjoyable smoke out of this sample.
So far, this smoke is much better than the last. The sour, ammoniac swampy flavor and odor is much more in the background but it's still not something I could honestly say that I like a lot. The finish is MUCH better in this pipe - I don't know if it's just this pipe or the fact that it's well broken-in, but I'm almost enjoying the smoke this time. It still didn't smoke easily all the way to dry ash, but at least it didn't gag me this time!
|
|